The question should've been "How can I change Salem?" because that's the first key to finding peace and saving humanity.
@Zyleace
3 жыл бұрын
Silver Eyes which cleanses the Grimm and darkness.
@vexxama
3 жыл бұрын
The exact wording of the gods was that as long as the planet turns, she will be immortal. If the planet is destroyed, or maybe even more literally if the rotation was stopped, she will be mortal again. At least in theory, if the gods exact wording was to be taken at face value and they weren’t just being dramatic
@themightytalkingsalamander5169
3 жыл бұрын
i think the better wording is how do i save salem. she is living in anger and spite it isnt about defeating her. she is already dead. its about geting her to live with herself. and each horable thing she dose is going to make it harder to do that. the way to save her wont even be through fighting. itl be through love and friendship. calling it now salim will be defeated by the power of love.
@lupuskeenway8866
3 жыл бұрын
Zail yes you absolute genius
@vexxama
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zyleace at best thatd only get rid of the god of darkness’ pools affect, she was still willing to lead humanity against the gods and after the army was wiped out said she’d just try again. Even if she was turned into just being a regular immortal human, she still has issues and was willing to sacrifice a whole lot of people, when the gods gave her another way to end her immortality. She couldnt let Ozma go, then she refused to learn the lesson, now she’s trying to bring the gods back to destroy everything just so she can die. It was shown that even after the pool she was capable of love with him and her daughters, she’s just making bad choices on her own
@mangamango5569
5 жыл бұрын
He ain’t asking the right question. He should have asked if there was a way to stop her.
@alexbaribeault
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what an idiot lmao. If I could ask 3 questions to an omniscient being, I would think them through for a really long while
@SkyFall7788
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexbaribeault the mythological jinn are known for twisting the words of humans & screwing them over unless you give them very specific commands.
@fedeleresuli7434
3 жыл бұрын
Like how can i seal her or move her to the oter space or sm ?
@alexbaribeault
3 жыл бұрын
@@SkyFall7788 Huh. I didn't know that. It's certainly not apparent in her character, but still. There's no rule against asking really long questions, so he could still have through all of the details he wants to see covered in his question about stopping Salem
@finnheisenheim8274
3 жыл бұрын
That question wouldn't work since stopping salem would only happen as a future event, and jinn can't give answers about the future
@Zoditron
5 жыл бұрын
The Problem with it is that he was asking the wrong question, he was asking for a way to destroy salem, but what he should have asked for was a way to defeat her. Lucky enough we also got that answer from Jinn. The only way for Salem to be defeated in a way, to quote the older brother "you must learn the importance of life and death, only then may you rest".
@krystianmoralesify
5 жыл бұрын
Emperor Zoditron what is the answer
@aceoffires1032
5 жыл бұрын
that might not be the only way, tbh the true wrong reason he got the answer he can't meaning there maybe someone else who can
@yummychips_
4 жыл бұрын
you guys are thinking to hard. Jinn is a all knowing super entity. She isn't a dick about it either, she helped out ruby when ruby needed more time. Jinn knew exactly what Ozpin wanted to know and answered exactly the truth. The only way salem can die is when she learns the importance of life and death. If there was a way, Jinn would have told him how to do so. Weather it be some one else, some other ancient/new power, some loophole or trick. Pretty sure the only salem will learn is if there was some mind melding crap. Like she gains Ozpin or someone's memory and learns their sorrow and pain. Then she comes to terms with what she has done. If it isn't that, then I have no idea how they gonna make it make sense. Like they already built her up way to powerful and it would be BS for something to actually kill her legitimately now.
@XTheCrystalBeastGuyX
4 жыл бұрын
@@yummychips_ Anyone's that's dealt with a Djinn for D&D or has played one as a DM knows that you have to choose your words carefully. Since Oz asked how he specifically, as in only himself, could destroy Salem, It was obvious her answer would be that he could not. But that manner of context can be taken in a multitude of ways. Asking if there ever would be someone else who could persuade her to see reason to change her beliefs would be a question that could show a more enlightening answer as it does not apply to Oz's question.
@jamesbrennan8232
3 жыл бұрын
You are right there, likely he beleives he is the only one that can do this and it is his mission and burden to stop her. No one else’s, he is blinded by his own mistakes and failures that he doesn’t want to put this on anyone else. So he does the only thing he can, he gives false hope and prays no one discovers the truth.
@707cloud
3 жыл бұрын
“How can “I” defeat Salem” “ “YOU” can’t” That means HE can’t beat her, but maybe someone else can, Ruby, her eyes can destroy anything, and they where not given by either of the gods.
@cinderfall4316
3 жыл бұрын
Silver eyes is a gift from the god of light. You must've seen him using that power himself when the God of Light was attacked by the grimm. Silver eyes won't kill/beat salem. Salem will only turn to stone and after some time, break free again.
@Mike-vz6xg
3 жыл бұрын
Salem is a human/Grimm hybrid. Ruby’s eyes if strong enough could destroy the Grimm part of Salem and return her sanity by removing her desire for destruction!
@Rainnotrain
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mike-vz6xg and Grimm don't have a soul so maybe Salem will die if she turns human again
@wvn9957
3 жыл бұрын
Salem is outright immortal there is no work around on it. And even if Salem lost the grimm part, the only thing she loses is she can't control the other grimm anymore. She still wants to die and already kinda evil before she became part grimm.
@kyletakemoto9628
2 жыл бұрын
That's the key that every character has missed. Jinn answered truthfully. Ozpin cannot destroy salem, but that doesn't mean she cannot be destroyed/defeated by someone other than him. the problem with omnipotent beings that answer questions, is that you have to be *very* careful with how you word those questions, or you won't get the answer you're looking for.
@wyrmshogun5245
3 жыл бұрын
People thinks that Salem is unkillable, but if heard correctly, you see that Oz ask if HE can kill her, not IF she can be killed.
@fedeleresuli7434
3 жыл бұрын
Wow that would be a very good plot twist
@nicolasneal204
3 жыл бұрын
@@fedeleresuli7434 it's being expanded upon already in Volume 7 Ruby mentioned this to Ren and Nora unfortunately there to distracted to discuss it properly and figure out of their is someone who can kill Salem
@finnheisenheim8274
2 жыл бұрын
@@fedeleresuli7434 At the cost of making ozma more incompetent than he already is. Wasting so many years asking the wrong question....
@fedeleresuli7434
2 жыл бұрын
@@finnheisenheim8274 I mean I always thought that they would Trick salem into a flying ship where one of tjem had a relic to lure her . Launch the ship into space and sayonara evil mommy
@MarleyMarble
2 жыл бұрын
@Wyrrm Shogun thank you
@GenerationGamexp
3 жыл бұрын
Salem: you can’t kill me Oz: I know I can’t, but he can SURTER SPAWNS IN
@stephenkenney8290
3 жыл бұрын
At the very least he can lay the smackdown of the century upon her.
@morningstarnc3264
3 жыл бұрын
I AM REMNANTS DOOM
@yaelaquiles5697
2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenkenney8290 not the century... Of the millenia upon her
@magnustheredxv
2 жыл бұрын
You joke, but comic Surtr or myth Surtr would actually be able to kill Salem *AND* the brother gods.
@atlas3556
Жыл бұрын
@@magnustheredxv Surtr negs all of RWBY tbh
@coolboialex
5 жыл бұрын
He can't. Maybe someone else can..
@Chaosmage42
5 жыл бұрын
also wrong question. the right question is how do you stop salem. Killing her isn't the only path, and i think this is a case of seal the evil in a can. The silver eyes freeze grim into rock and thats what salem has fused herself with so it makes sense sealing her into stone is the only option now.
@krystianmoralesify
5 жыл бұрын
Chaosmage42 seal her away it just a temporary fix the seal can be broken and she can escape
@CalRizz
5 жыл бұрын
Krystian Morales seal her away and send her into space!
@GodOfChaos26
4 жыл бұрын
Chaosmage42 Or seal her away in a bag of her own skin. That’s what they did to an immortal character in Soul Eater. It worked for a while.
@VagueVAA
4 жыл бұрын
Bruh I thought I was the only one who thought bout this. She said "YOU cant." She didnt say no one else couldn't. But to the people who are saying seal her away, it won't work. Sealing her away will just make her a problem for the future generations to deal with. Then we'll be right back where we started.
@metadaneholtzman7816
3 жыл бұрын
Easy: Just tell Caboose that he's on Salem's Team and wait.
@MinatoDeLaCruz
3 жыл бұрын
Love how lowkey Djinn gave Ozma a really blunt but respectful "Piss off"
@supersonicheroes
3 жыл бұрын
Kind of seems like she has a grudge against Oz for some reason. She gives everyone an elaborate flashback to explain what he was hiding as a way to answer their question, but she just gives him a really blunt “you can’t” here.
@MinatoDeLaCruz
3 жыл бұрын
@@supersonicheroes Maybe since Djinn was created by the Twin Gods she saw how Ozma mishandled his "mission" and she quietly blames him for playing a part in what Salem is today?
@finnheisenheim8274
2 жыл бұрын
@@MinatoDeLaCruz Is it really fair to blame him though? Everything that happened from the destruction of humanity to the curse of salem occured after he died, and he was selfless enough to decline passing on and reincarnating repeatedly to stop salem.
@MinatoDeLaCruz
2 жыл бұрын
@@finnheisenheim8274 Oh no, the blame isn't his. It's the Twin Gods fault.
@kidprime6863
2 жыл бұрын
@@MinatoDeLaCruz Yeah, after all to the Gods, Remnants was just a "beautiful experiment"
@kobeedragonking3800
3 жыл бұрын
She said to Ozpin "you can't", but someone will.
@xeli3046
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, don't worry Ozpin, he's a cool dude...
@crazedrobot8992
3 жыл бұрын
The biggest question of all is why they still hate Ozpin, honestly no idea why.
@non1263
3 жыл бұрын
Especially since they themselves lied to Ironwood.
@Nighthowlerschannel
3 жыл бұрын
HYPOCRISY!!
@nubbiewubbie7285
3 жыл бұрын
Fr. The mission was never "kill Salem". It was "take the relic to Atlas". Even if Salem can't die, that's not relevant to why Weiss, Blake, and Yang are there in the first place.
@frohawk8465
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! At least they’ve semi apologized for it now.
@doctorwho3708
Жыл бұрын
Cause Ozpin lie to them and use them. Which isn't the case at all. Lie, maybe, but he was fighting a awar in secret to avoid giving Salem more power and only let he thought he could trust in the circle. Which we seen only Glynda was worthy of it. They assume he never gave them a choice, but he always gave them a chance and they charge in without thinking of the consequences and blame him for it. Like the whole bird thing, the twins choices and they were about to blame him for it. Hell, if it was for the fact that Rooster teeth made many chances to Monty Oum, God rest his soul, original script, pretty sure Ozpin would have been more of a mentor to Ruby then a source of undesvearing hatred cause 'drama'.
@solgaleoevans7864
3 жыл бұрын
When djin said “you cant” i think she literally meant that Ozma cant do it But someone else might be able to Most likely Ruby since she has the power of silver eyes
@TheAngelofFate17
3 жыл бұрын
Ruby may have the power to take away to darkness in her but that still won’t help Salem learn her lesson. She’ll still be immortal, and still able to use magic. In order for her curse and Ozma’s curse to be lifted she had to learn the importance of light and death on her own. Ruby’s Silver eyes won’t be enough for that
@robertwalker7454
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelofFate17 It will still be easier to talk to her if that evilness and darkness to be gone out of her she will might be able to listen to reason.
@TheAngelofFate17
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker7454 of the gods were able to talk to her while she was human then how would Ruby be any different. It just would feel so clique, getting rid of her darkness and doing talk no jutsu to solve the problem.
@robertwalker7454
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAngelofFate17 Maybe Ozbin, will be able to talk to her, I don't know
@fellowman8796
3 жыл бұрын
There's also the word "destroy" to take into consideration. Even if she can't be destroyed, sealing and locking her away is still a viable option, like, say, turning her to stone or something.
@CaseyRedgrave
4 жыл бұрын
She might've meant Ozpin can't kill her
@thegrandmo7548
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he has the ability to kill her, but deep down he truly can't bring him self to kill her.
@RedDragonForce2
3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely that Oz(Ozma, Ozpin, whoever else he went by) cannot destroy her. That doesn’t mean someone else cannot.
@ctleans6326
3 жыл бұрын
My personal take is: 1. Salem is immortal, she cannot die, and cannot be defeated by anyone either. 2. Salem being grimm-like isn't what is making her evil, it's because she hates the gods, so removing the grimm with silver eyes won't defeat her. 3. This has been spat out multiple times: "you must learn the importance of life and death, only then may you rest"; Emphasis on "*only* then may you rest", which implies that Salem can only die after being talked too instead of fought.
@doctorbrydin7294
3 жыл бұрын
Should have asked "Why is there a D in Fridge but not in Refrigerator."
@xKurami
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, only the toughest of questions.
@chloeswoveland3907
3 жыл бұрын
XD
@1991DOG
3 жыл бұрын
A wise one I see
@joshjordan2094
3 жыл бұрын
*Djinn.EXE has stopped working*
@ransherman1611
3 жыл бұрын
i don't think even jinn can answerthat one.
@lindevoskamp4948
3 жыл бұрын
I love how no one from the gang noticed the "how do I destroy Salem" -> "YOU can't". She never said others couldn't, she also never said she couldn't be stopped. She just said Oz couldn't destroy her. I wonder if they are evey going to look back on that part
@sirtacothefirst9960
Жыл бұрын
My fiance and I have discussed this before and we were surprised that Ruby didn't pick up on that. She tends to be the most observant with word play.
@CILinkzSpre3
5 жыл бұрын
he should've asked how can he cleanse Salem of her Grimm Influence that would make it a lot easier. Also considering where Salem came from maybe splashing her with the Water from the pool of the light god would help :D (Wizard of Oz and all that)
@yummychips_
4 жыл бұрын
Won't matter, If there was a way cleanse her, she would lose her crazyness, therefore she can learn to be human, leading her to eventually understand the lesson she has to learn. That would then kill her. So if Jinn said there is no way. Then there is no way. I think maybe gathering all the relics and summoning the gods is the best solution. Just tell them, hey we just wanted to let you know she super cray cray now, and we just need some help with her.
@CILinkzSpre3
4 жыл бұрын
@@yummychips_ but the gods said that they would destroy humanity if they cant work together in peace so its basically god summon = world ends
@ipsrayhanal-fatihrobhani4554
3 жыл бұрын
@@CILinkzSpre3 but wasn't the pool destroyed ?
@coachlombardi9657
3 жыл бұрын
@@ipsrayhanal-fatihrobhani4554 I was thinking the same thing. It's been, like, a million years since the Gods left Remnant and the pool could have dried up during that time.
@nissowolf7268
2 жыл бұрын
Two things : 1- Jinn answered to Ozma litterally as people already pointed that out : "How do I destroy salem" - "you can't" Meaning : "Ozma specifically can't" or "you can't specifically destroy Salem" 2- Jinn gave Ozma the answer he was looking for, an honest one, which is equally possible as Jinn is not a bitch (she gave Ruby the time she needed), which mean, Ozma, as well as any other being on the planet, can't kill salem. But in both case, it doesn't mean they can't defeat her, as her death isn't necessary to defeat her. In fact, it is likely that Salem's plan will backfire, as fighting so openly the kingdom reveal her to the world, thus allowing people to unite against a common enemy. If she activates the relics to call back the gods when humanity is united (against her) then they will probably allow salem to die, both as a reward for Salem and for humanity. If she activates the relics while still maintaining division among people, the gods will surely destroy humanity as it would have been a complete failure in their eyes, but they wont allow Salem to die yet, thus letting her wander, lonely again.
@SerafRhayn
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a few comments saying she’d be defeated when she saw value or the importance of life and death. Of that’s the case, I’d hope Ruby would be the one to do it.
@squidney6267
3 жыл бұрын
here’s the thing: ozma asked “how do I destroy salem” i wonder when Gin said “you can’t” she meant that ozma can’t destroy her but maybe someone else can?
@0hvist
3 жыл бұрын
it could be that due to The God's burden of immortality, Salem cannot be killed in the way that Ozpin is asking. The real question he should have asked Jinn: _"Will Salem forgive me?"_ or _"Can Salem be saved from herself?"_
@DyunJam
2 жыл бұрын
The thing about Genies are; they took things TOO *literally*
@FighterPuppy
5 ай бұрын
Ozpin: How do I destroy Salem? Jinn: You can’t. *Godzilla enters the Chat*
@stars_and_lattes3078
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like he should've asked if salem could be destroyed, cause asking if she can be destroyed and asking if he could destroy salem are two very different questions. And I feel everyone took it as Salem can't be destroyed.
@MitsukiKuchiki
3 жыл бұрын
Plus the god if light said to stop her. Doesn't mean destruction is always gonna be the answer. o3o
@Longtail626
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone hoping Salem gets the Kars treatment and is launched into space where she can no longer affect things in remanent
@jasapotato8362
3 жыл бұрын
Will she stop thinking?
@teoch5217
3 жыл бұрын
Fighting Salem has never been your mission. Your mission was to unite people and bring order and peace
@Jstck1
3 жыл бұрын
"Can I build a Salem proof cage with the relic of creation?"
@lucariothegodboi
3 жыл бұрын
She said he couldn't DESTROY Salem. She never said anything about DEFEATING Salem.
@phantom117b4
3 жыл бұрын
she also said YOU can't you as in Ospin, but someone else can
@theheroneededwillette6964
5 жыл бұрын
I know it seems stupid that no one’s picked up that he’s asking the wrong question, but remember that they kind have other things on their minds at that moment and aren’t as familiar as we are when it comes to the whole genie specifics thing.
@victor2641
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@QuaziPhantom
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh that’s like rule 1 when it comes to genies, “choose your words carefully” He should have asked “how to stop Salem”
@johnozzmond9728
Жыл бұрын
Really ought to word his questions better. Should've asked something along the lines of "what are all possible methods of killing Salem, breaking her curse, or dampening, neutralizing or permanently removing her various powers and abilities, including but not limited to; her control over Grimm, her magic, and her extreme regeneration and what are the steps necessary to utilize those methods?"
@erikdederick6345
3 жыл бұрын
I hope that someone draws attention to his incredibly dumb question and suggests a better one to ask in the current or next volumes
@josephortiz8110
3 жыл бұрын
Its because he asked "How do I DESTROY Salem" and she said "YOU can't", as in Ozpin can't destroy her. The question should've been "How can Salem be stopped"
@gacharandom6087
3 жыл бұрын
I would have asked: Can salem be saved
@zaidmontes8651
3 жыл бұрын
They don't even have to kill Salem to stop her. They're all being stupid
@silvesterlowellimageek2140
3 жыл бұрын
I do feel bad for Oz. ... What hold up she said you can only ask three questions, Oz : 1. were is the other realices, 2. What do they do 3 . How do I stop Salem The show only 2 answer remain dose that mean a 100 years past ,but as we can see Oz looks like the same . Me :my brain huts now Me :still trying to fuguer it out Me : Oh now I get it she like the genie in the lamp from Disney Aladdin. She gave him two freebies, Latter ... Jennie with RWBY Jennie :your clover ,and I give you this one time ,but when I see you again you have to use the other question. Rwby : sheepish smile Me :wow the wrighter didn't think this through, but ,even still watches the show just to see how it ends . Alright I'm done over all don't think on it to long ,just hope who ever reads this has a awesome day ,or night. If they dint hope tommow, or whatever well be better
@josephcola9662
3 жыл бұрын
Genie rule #1: If asking or wishing for something, get an entire team of lawyers, and make sure what you say leaves neither loopholes nor room for vague answers. And make sure your question inquires as to the *exact* conundrum you desire to be solved. All that informed Oz is that *HE SPECIFICALLY* cannot destroy Salem (and for all we know, if the question was interpreted literally enough, that answer might have only been valid for that specific incarnation of Oz). This does not: Say Salem can't be killed for good. Say that literally anyone else can't kill Salem for good. Say that there isn't a way to defeat Salem that doesn't involve permanently killing her.
@dragonlord4252
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else catch the point of how he asked 'how can 'I' 'destroy' Salem? He should have asked "how can Salem be defeated?" it would have given him a lot more options.
@DamontheDemon7
2 жыл бұрын
We can all see that Ozpin didn’t word his question right. Jinn said the HE can’t kill Salem, but that doesn’t mean she CANT be killed! Anyone who has watched movies or shows about genies knows that you have to be very specific with your wishes and questions. Which actually would make for a very interesting plot twist!
@easymoney8745
2 жыл бұрын
Jinn told Oz that he can't kill Salem my guess is because Oz still loves Salem deep in his heart it's for that reason Jinn told him he can't.
@jaredlarson2889
3 жыл бұрын
You can't...doesn't mean no one else can't ether
@gilbertvillarreal5109
3 жыл бұрын
Ozpin asked how to "destroy" but not how to stop or defeat so there must be away
@FRISHR
3 жыл бұрын
Not even Rule 34 can destroy Salem
@tako_kawaii1749
3 жыл бұрын
I gonna pay you to fuck off!!
@masonhumphrey1664
Жыл бұрын
The question he should’ve asked was, “How could I stop ✋ Salem.” Not destroy. There’s a Lesson in that.
@BernieTheDevastator
3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one annoyed with the inconsistency that there are three questions before the 100yr cool down or recharge or whatever, but when they first get it there are only two which means it’s still in its current use BUT HE ASKS THREE QUESTIONS IN THE FLASHBACK?
@randominternetman8177
Жыл бұрын
Salem: "You can't defeat me." Ozma: "Oh, I know. But he can." Vergil:
@swivelshivel6576
3 жыл бұрын
The issue with the question I believe is that he asked “How can I-“ which gives the question an answer to only where he is the one to destroy Salem. And because I’m betting that in some part of him, Ozma/Ozpin/the entity Oz still to some capacity loves Salem, he can never actually destroy her himself. So I’m gonna go on a limb and say if the question was “How can Salem be destroyed?” Or “-can be stopped” with no mention of himself, I think we might actually get an answer
@elisonholace4033
3 жыл бұрын
Should've been "how can Salem BE destroyed". Just cause Ozpin couldn't destroy her doesn't mean it's impossible.
@SergDragon
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't understand it first cuz I didn't hear what the question was and the answer. now that I've heard it again I know where he messed up. He use the word "I" in Destroy Salem. It should have been who destroyed Salem. Because she answered truthfully "you" can't. She wasn't saying she can't be destroyed is that he is not the one to do it. He should have asked, who & how is capable of destroying Salem.
@dasauce9147
3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame him for asking how to kill her since she is too dangerous to be left alive. Even if she is locked away who is to say some mortal cult wouldn't free her or something else going wrong Ozpin is all by himself handling this even if he manages to form an organization from day who the organization would eventually be corrupted.
@jaimealeckgaonafuentes5593
Жыл бұрын
They can put salem in a rocket and send it to the sun
@Winter_Rose000
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that even team rwby forgot what the brothers said to Salem that she need to learn the importance of life and death and accept Ozpin’s death, if anything Ozpin or ruby need to go and talk to Salem or have a group therapy session or somethings for her to accept his death so they both can pass away, But for some reason they act like they didn’t hear what the brothers said though they were hearing and seeing what was happening to Salem
@victor2641
2 жыл бұрын
And if she refuse to listen.
@justysiastrzelczyk8212
Ай бұрын
Why is no one talking about the fact that Ozpin looked like Tony Stark😂
@Nazo-kage
3 ай бұрын
They’re really not thinking this thing through are they? He said : “How can ‘I’ destroy Salem?” Her answer was “‘you’ can’t.” I’ve seen enough of these kind of stories to tell that the wording is always important. It doesn’t mean that Salem can’t be defeated. He was just too stupid to ask it the right way to learn how she could be defeated.
@brucejedilee5290
3 жыл бұрын
He should have asked "How do I stop Salem?"
@HestiaVesta
2 жыл бұрын
I bet she can be destroyed somehow just not by Ozma's power or plans he can think up himself.
@lasonris8934
3 жыл бұрын
Destroy is different than defeating Making sure she cannot harm anyone or perhaps making her not need to (or want to)
@mortem1835
2 жыл бұрын
My two theory’s on how the show may end 1: Ruby’s eyes can kill, or at least revert Salem back to her human form (before she went into the Grimm lake thing) 2: Salem “wins” and reunites all 4 artefacts, However instead of the gods seeing the people fighting each other, They see that the world has united to fight Salem
@stevengardner3192
Жыл бұрын
Or imprison her.
@elisaarte1681
2 жыл бұрын
Aside from Salem being unkillable, does Salem wanted to bring those gods with the 4 relics?
@stevengardner3192
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the guesses.
@stevengardner3192
Жыл бұрын
I still think Ruby is the best chance to defeat/kill/imprison her with her silver eyes. Just need to get close to her and keep up the silver eye blast for a longer period time.
@eliscore
3 жыл бұрын
He definitely asked the wrong question. I don't think she can be destroyed by anyone. Except for the gods, he should have asked how do I stop her, how do I bind her
@doriehoffman7624
9 ай бұрын
There must be more Answers to these 4 Relics, & whatever which meaning it could stop Salem.
@batmanmorel0920
3 жыл бұрын
he asked how can he defeat salem, not how to defeat salem, jin is a jenea, and like all jeneas they take the wishes they are asked literally
@t-moneytiger1815
2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I saw this and how my jaw and heart completely dropped pass my feet.🤯😵☠️
@petermcdow6386
3 жыл бұрын
The question was how do “I” destroy Salem? Just a thought but could it be that the question answering lady just looked into the future to see that either he couldn’t or that she looked into the future to see that it wasn’t him that destroys Salem.
@KuromiLaBella
3 жыл бұрын
People are kinda missing the message. The thing is, Salem cannot be destroyed. However, maybe she can be changed. If only the main cast weren't currently in their emo, angsty phase.
@coreymajtyka460
3 жыл бұрын
If MLP: Friendship is Magic has taught me anything, it's this: You don't always need to destroy the bad guy, just their plan Ozpin thought he needed to kill the woman he loved(possibly still loves depending on Gylinda) and was told it's impossible thanks to the immortality the brothers cursed her with. However, he never asked how to STOP her. Taking into account what the rest of the comment section is thinking: is Ruby/Team RWBY the key to finally talking her down. The endgame is about unity, that means EVERYONE; including Salem if possible. Hell, considering we were all thinking this back in Volume 2: make Cinder the final boss, she kind seems to be heading in the same direction as her boss.
@metaking1008
3 жыл бұрын
So The Mane 6 can beat Salem!? 😂😂😂
@coreymajtyka460
3 жыл бұрын
@@metaking1008 In a sense, yes
@jameshazel5582
3 жыл бұрын
He asked, " How can I destroy Salem," and it said " YOU can't". Maybe someone else can. Or he should have asked how to stop her
@shadowragna743
2 жыл бұрын
He asked how HE can destroy Salam. Not how TO
@jennyangel6723
3 жыл бұрын
the real question is how might Salem understand the value of life and death
@animangafan342
Жыл бұрын
Naw. Everyone here not paying attention to the story. Oz was tasked by the gods to reunite mankind and then finally gathering all the relics back together & recalling them for judgement. Salem wants to gather all the relics. Which is fine but mankind needs to be reunited which they are technically doing now to face Salem.
@justgold666
3 жыл бұрын
I think the 3rd question should've been "How do I save Salem?"
@jennawichern6974
3 жыл бұрын
I think "I" and "destroy" were key words there. He can't DESTROY her, per re.. Or maybe HE can't do it, but someone else can...
@0_S_A_E_0
3 жыл бұрын
How do I destroy Salem? Jinn: "you can't" Jinn: like you personally can't
@Hilario-von-Fledermausburg1973
Жыл бұрын
Yes, because Salem bathed in the Grimm, and Ruby has Naruto's Eyes, and the Gods destroyed a large part of the Moon and that didn't cause anything... like in "Dragon Ball".
@arbitrationengine803
3 жыл бұрын
Step 1. Capture salem Step 2. Imprison salem behind multiple feet of steel/concrete/etc Step 3. Go about your lives because the threat has generally been neutralized at least for the time being until you can find a better or more permanent solution.
@dreameater2661
3 жыл бұрын
I think the gods will come at some point cause.she did want all of the relic.
@matthewcloyd8413
3 жыл бұрын
Better questions that could have been asked. How do we stop Salem? How do we save Salem?
@TheGlitcher7
3 жыл бұрын
How does one defeat Salem not How can I
@Nooblitz_74
3 жыл бұрын
Until salem learns the meaning of life and death the gods talking about than yeah but till she accepts it she can't move on to the afterlife. I might be wrong about this might recheck if needed.
@DragonTamerAG0115
3 жыл бұрын
See I think he didn’t ask the right question. I think he should have asked “How do I save Salem?”
@yummychips_
4 жыл бұрын
Look guys, It doesn't matter how the question was asked. Jinn is a powerful entity that knows everything. She obviously knew what Oz was asking for. If there was a legit way, she would have told him. We already know the only way for her to finally die is when she learns the importance of life and death. We also know that she pretty much lost her humanity and became what ever she is now. So it pretty much means she won't/can't learn the lesson anymore.
@thebanditman5663
3 жыл бұрын
Jinn is representative of a genie, they never give you what you want, only what you ask for, she gave a very specific answer for a very specific question. Oz himself can not kill Salem, but there is a way to do it, Jinn just wouldn't tell him because how else would she get her kicks when she's let out of the lamp if not by fucking around with the people who let her out. Even if Salem couldn't be destroyed, there are ways of keeping her "dead." The vacuum of space is quite inhospitable, and I dare say being trapped by the gravity of the sun and forced to burn until it's death is arguably a good way to keep an immortal off of you for at least a few billion years.
@darkskull9166
3 жыл бұрын
That is kind of specific, but the only true way to defeat Salem is to make her understand the true importance of life and death. She needs to understand that not everything is permanent. Not even her.
@velascokayetenilleb.1636
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkskull9166 that, and the fact that she simply can't go against the god brothers.
@potato.enjoyer
3 жыл бұрын
he asked "how do I destroy Salem" so i am sure that genie answered that HE cant but she never said that no one can. And i am pretty sure its gonna end up with a cliche answer like he cant bu the protagonist (Ruby) can because the plot demands it or people will magically unite after hearing that they have to deal with immortal god-like being (also because the plot demands it) and the moral is gonna be that in the end Ruby was right about not hiding the truth and Ozpin was wrong. This is basically where the plot is going, they are trying to justify Ruby's and the rest poor decisions and turn Ironwood and Ozpin into villains for making actually better decisions. Kinda poor writing but who knows, maybe the RT will suprise us all. At least we have Ren and he is aware that they are too naive and they made everything worse.
@CptPhilippnes
3 жыл бұрын
Of course he cant destroy Salem, he probably still loves her deep down.
@TheLordPolar
3 жыл бұрын
Notice he asked, " How do I destroy Salem?" "I" not can some or how would, or is it possible? And she replied with, "You cant." Not No one can, or its impossible, she can't be destroyed. She told him He can destroy Salem, she answered him very specifically. I think Salem can still be destroyed. And I think I know how.
@nobuffer101
Жыл бұрын
Gonna say it now, SPOILERS for VOLUME 9. The only person who could potentially save Neo from Curious is Jaune. Maybe with some development with his semblance, he can actually do more than simply amplify one's aura. Since he can directly interact with aura, the manifestation of the soul, he can separate Curious from Neo, eventually leading to a breakthrough where Jaune can potentially separate the grimm from Salem. The only way to stop Salem, is to save her. And the method of doing so didn't really exist until Jaune became part of the equation.
@austinelkins1333
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i never got why everyone is so doom and gloom when it comes to salem. Like she is unbeatable. I mean we all hear Oz ask if there is any way "HE" could destroy Salem, not is there any way period. It always has to be about him
@Bell-hj3zc
3 жыл бұрын
He said how can *I* defeat salem and not how can salem be defeated
@LordDoom10
3 жыл бұрын
Asking the wrong question.
@moonshiro
3 жыл бұрын
I love how this comment section is filled with smart people who understand the importance of asking the right question because I've been saying that *for years* and 90% of the RWBY fandom just don't listen (I'm not even starting to talk about the characters and their stupidity)
@victor2641
2 жыл бұрын
And what happens if the answer is something that he can not accomplish specifically speaking.
@DeaminZaints
3 жыл бұрын
I see alot of people coming to the assumption that i did, which i still think is true and that i still think is where the story is going, but holy shit does this scene make no sense. The idea here is that Djinn is a "monkeyspaw", you need to be specific with your questions in order to get the answer you want. The assumption i think everyone has is that, Ozpin didnt ask "how do i stop Salem?" or "Can i stop Salem?" or other variantions that allow for the correct answer to be given. And again, i think thats how its supposed to be presented and thats the point and all BUT! This entire scene is the end point of a massive lore dump, about completely unrelated shit to a ton of different topics and even information that Ozpin couldnt have known since he was dead at the time. And yet... When Ruby asks "What is Ozpin hiding?" you get all of this massive lore dump. It makes no sense. If you have to be specific about your questions, then Rubys question would in no way provide ALL of this information, its way to vague and we get all kinds of things that are unrelelated to the main topic of this end question... Basically, if Djinn is a monkeyspaw, then she would just say something like "what Ozpin is hiding is the truth about Salem" and then thats it, nothing else. The fact that she gives SO much information is rediculous if we also have to assume that Ozpins question in this scene isnt specific enough... Overall, but scene honestly...
@gaigeschaal9070
3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty obvious. Salem has historically had silver eyed people killed. People with silver eyes can petrify Grimm. Salem is made of Grimm juice. Are you starting to get the picture? The main characters sure didn't.
@tiffanycherrbboneau2114
2 жыл бұрын
What if they set the relics free and tried making them new gods?
@stevengardner3192
Жыл бұрын
I don't think they work like that.
@coranbaker6401
3 жыл бұрын
So after reading the comments, I have just one question... Can Ozpin kill Salem? That was a joke, practically every comment says the same thing, which just goes to show how obvious Ozpin's mistake was.
@letsdothis7810
3 жыл бұрын
You technically can’t destroy a person like Salem but I don’t know *turning them into stone works to* But something is bothering me. What Ruby did to cinder that made her lose and arm and Cinder was at the center of Ruby using her powers the first time.
@VacadoRay
3 жыл бұрын
What u need is couples couples Counciling
@blablador4584
3 жыл бұрын
"how can i destroy Salem" You cant destroy someone so powerfull Alone, the question should have been "how can Salem be destroyed" or better yet "how can Salem be stopped
@Eagercheetah20
3 жыл бұрын
Ok ozpin shouldn’t have asked how to destroy Salem he should have asked “how do I defeat Salem” “how do I stop Salem” “how do I change Salem” etc. sure she can’t be killed but that doesn’t mean she can’t be stopped/defeated and or changed
@choresabiswane6102
3 жыл бұрын
U know what's been bothering me, the question, "how do *I* destroy salem?", maybe he should've asked "how does one destroy salem?" Or "who/what can destroy salem?", cus when u say *I*, u mean yourself u know.
@wicked.a950
11 ай бұрын
That's your frigging grieving ex wife dude, how about asking how to resurrect your kids or how to save your wife instead?
@zombone7813
3 жыл бұрын
What if Djinn was saying "you can't" meaning Ozpin can't but someone else can? That's been my theory anyway that and what if instead she meant "You can't defeat her but someone else can "save/redeem her." meaning "Ruby and/or team Rwby" again just my theory and opinion.
@drawnwriter5543
3 жыл бұрын
I agreed with salems idea they should be the knew gods but disagree with what she though that meant . . . the old gods didnt rule over the humans the guided them . . . Ozma could take up the mantel of light and Salem darkness . . .
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