Yeah, IMO we need another fab that can produce cutting edge node that can competes with TSMC. IDK about you, but if only TSMC can do such things then we all gonna be at the mercy of TSMC's pricing for our techs.
@ManilaDragonKing
4 ай бұрын
we can only count on China@@titan_fx
@Riyozsu
4 ай бұрын
They have always been the winner
@oc3264
4 ай бұрын
TSMC always wins. We need other companies like it, preferably on different continents too.
@flamestoyershadowkill6400
4 ай бұрын
@@oc3264 if intel was competent they could let other tech companies use their services
@floridaman3823
4 ай бұрын
Lol, if RDNA4 is the next RX 480 then it's not dead. Ngreedia has pushed it's entry level cards to the enthusiast price of a few years ago. AMD will be fine if they give us a rx 6800 for $300.
@R0d_1984
4 ай бұрын
6800 for about $300, yeah i'd buy (Have a 6700 ATM).
@HuntaKiller91
4 ай бұрын
Yeah used 6800 is at around $300 in my country
@glanguish9390
4 ай бұрын
I thought stock of rx6000 series has nearly all gone?
@solarxenoz
4 ай бұрын
6800s go for like $320 used...
@mikelay5360
4 ай бұрын
What a stupid comment. AMD literally just copied NVIDIA pricing undercutting them with an anemic 50 bucks just to fool people.😂 And they bought the Bs
@systemBuilder
4 ай бұрын
No, RTX 5000 is NEXT YEAR TOO !! Everyone is resting on their laurels hoping to sell more 2022/2023 gpu's ...
@DragunBreath
4 ай бұрын
Lack of competition causes stagnation.
@OctagonalSquare
4 ай бұрын
Is that confirmed now? I know NVIDIA’s 2 hour keynote at Computex was literally just Jensen talking about how great being a CEO is with absolutely no announcements, but did we get confirmation they aren’t releasing yet?
@tringuyen7519
4 ай бұрын
@@OctagonalSquareJensen didn’t even mention gaming GPU during keynote. & every 5080 GPU will be sold in China before anyone else can get it!
@hotdog9262
4 ай бұрын
someone should inform amd gamers buy hw when the summer is over ..not when summer is 3 months away
@1Grainer1
4 ай бұрын
@@OctagonalSquare everything here is according to leaks... and those say that 5080 will be before 5090 for global launch, and GPU partners still don't know much about 5080, so cards aren't even in production yet, so maybe november december? and 5090 could be paper launch at first tbh you can assume Q1 next year for all next gen gpus
@danielhulan3058
4 ай бұрын
Screw it, my next cpu upgrade will be to amd. Not only does Intel cpus suck, but this manipulation of numbers is shady af.after. I have the 17-12700k and I'll upgrade when the release the 9800x3d.
@maxwallestain9037
4 ай бұрын
Last year I upgraded my Intel 9400f to a ryzen 7600x, it was the best choice ever, AM5 is awesome, and all of this new ryzens are even more, lower tdp!!!, wich is a killer deal!. Maybe I replace my 7600x to the 9800x3d, it would be a lot faster and with less power consuption, killer deal!.
@danielhulan3058
4 ай бұрын
@maxwallestain9037 it's not so much the power draw and heat. Yeah having lower tdp is great but intel flat out sh** the bed and has been horrible since 14th gen and the refresh bs. Ryzen on the other hand is killing it.... with the exception of the gpu market. They make good gpus but they really had an opportunity to beat nvidia to the market and with the new strix halo, they willcrush it. But they are missing the opportunity.
@pssthpok
4 ай бұрын
@@maxwallestain9037 I just upgraded this year from my 14 year old x58 chipset mobo (ended up running a Xeon X5680 by the end) to an AM5 system with a Ryzen 7900X. AM5 is awesome, looking forward to what AMD has planned for this socket!
@iequalsnoob
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 🤡 🤡 🤡
@craiglortie8483
4 ай бұрын
intel has been doing this for decades now. go look up adored tv; his videos go in depth into all three of the big boys! hell, intel even bought into a benchmark program to rig the benchmarks; you think cherry picking is coming close?
@OlettaLiano
4 ай бұрын
I think I'll be using an AM4 PC for the next few years, as I have no reason to change to any of the new stuff.
@antondovydaitis2261
4 ай бұрын
Building a cheap-ish AM4, good enough for me.
@dozilla77
4 ай бұрын
They still out here dropping AM4 CPU's in 2024, gotta love it.
@MrSyphon28
4 ай бұрын
You can find a 5700x3d for ~200-250 UDS, quality DDR4 ram and a good B550 board for comparatively cheap. Invest in the GPU. Very happy with my 5700x3D for gaming.
@esra_erimez
4 ай бұрын
A lady of my own heart, I'm still running Intel x99. It runs just fine.
@fauzanbachtiar451
4 ай бұрын
Agree CPU don’t have to be upgraded every 3-4 years, my i5 2500K still runs great, not with my gtx 650ti tho😅 The biggest thing that am5 brings is make am4 cheaper😂
@Void-uj7jd
4 ай бұрын
5800X3D for years to come. No plans on upgrading anytime soon.
@iequalsnoob
4 ай бұрын
That's a turd cpu
@gavingi5875
4 ай бұрын
depending on your games it is probably a good move, Me, I have one more PC and dead .... so my next upgrade is a big one. At this stage its the 9000 series best ..
@ItzneviiPS3
4 ай бұрын
@@iequalsnoob Talking out of your ass
@timbelcher8992
4 ай бұрын
Games are getting to demanding on cpus my 5800X3D is stuggling to keep up with my 7900XTX. I'll be getting the 9800X3D
@patrickweaver1105
4 ай бұрын
It all depends on what you're trying to do. If you're in a race to see how many frames your GPU can discard at 4K without displaying, then you'll need the newest tech available. Otherwise, a 5800x3d is fine to any game properly coded at a reasonable framerate and resolution. For games improperly coded, as most of the newest games are, hardware won't fix that.
@systemBuilder
4 ай бұрын
Intel lying like an SOB who's surprised? Not I ...
@Mrsquirrel-vu8ip
4 ай бұрын
im not suprised they changed the benchmarks after seeing amds new prossesers i know that they changed the benchmmarks cuz my dad works there
@thetheoryguy5544
4 ай бұрын
Didn't amd lie too?
@asknight
4 ай бұрын
@@thetheoryguy5544 sure, that's what marketing majors are trained to do.
@Jackson-bh1jw
4 ай бұрын
@@thetheoryguy5544 you are comparing both lies the same?? get out of here.
@thetheoryguy5544
4 ай бұрын
@@Jackson-bh1jw Lol you get out of here any lies are no good, you smooth brain.
@sageriver4373
4 ай бұрын
Man, it used to be pretty easy to keep up with chip architecture and such, but it's been getting so much more complicated the last few years
@killkiss_son
4 ай бұрын
On AMD the architectures are Zen 4, zen 5 and the little cores have a c at the end, easy. On Intel you have whatever name they choosed, the P cores which were hypertreaded, but now aren't, and then you have E cores which aren't hypertreaded, and the LP E cores... F Intel
@elmariachi5133
4 ай бұрын
Yeas, we are lucky that GPUs are so unaffordable, that CPUs don't really matter much anymore ;)
@akhilboby2442
4 ай бұрын
My mind is still stuck in 2400G, RX 580, Coffee lake and 1060 6GB.
@TheHangarHobbit
4 ай бұрын
Delaying RDNA 4 and killing the top end is actually VERY smart as MLID has reported sales of top end GPUs have cratered while cards like the 7600XT are selling well so they really have no need to dedicate more silicon to new GPUs when they have new CPUs and APUs coming out, as well as their new AI accelerators.
@rodiculous9464
4 ай бұрын
It's not very smart considering they will need to compete with battlemage releasing around the same time
@ReaperX7
4 ай бұрын
It depends, but the real question is will 7900 XT and XTX will get a significant price drop to bring them down to the 500-700 dollar level which would help a lot more.
@b3as_t
4 ай бұрын
@@rodiculous9464 that will happen regardless, of if they go for a high end or mid ranged cards. But at the end of the day they've got a bigger market for mid ranged products so I'm more than happy to see what they cook up
@patrickweaver1105
4 ай бұрын
Inflation is killing the high-end GPU market. Building a system around them has become absurdly expensive. It's been that way for a long time and it's getting worse. Most people need that money to pay their bills. Mid-range cards aren't sexy but it's where the money is.
@Anomliz
4 ай бұрын
my wishes for both GPu and CPU to have lower TDP and prices, rather than just race towards performance increase :)
@yahm0n
4 ай бұрын
Just buy the cheapest GPU and you get the lowest TDP.
@_nom_
4 ай бұрын
Well it costs development. May need to go for an older gen.
@icefire5555
4 ай бұрын
@@yahm0n the RTX 4090 can run at like 90% performance at 70% power limits.
@Anomliz
4 ай бұрын
@@yahm0n do u mean that in new releases? like RTX 4060ti having lowest powerdraw in the 40 Ti series? or do u mean in general cuz my RX580 has 185+ TDP
@Nightfighter82
4 ай бұрын
That's what most of us want but idiots like Gamer Meld care only about raw performance that most people don't care about.
@curbthepain
4 ай бұрын
Ok, never been the biggest fan, but buc-ees is literally the craziest gas station/store on earth. Also regardless of if RDNA4 is bad or not I'm supporting AMD again. We need the competition seriously.
@GamerMeld
4 ай бұрын
Right?! My girlfriend forced me to go when we were driving across country. It was pretty cool. And I get where you’re coming from on AMD.
@mikelay5360
4 ай бұрын
What competition are you talking about 😂.
@randomSaltyUser
4 ай бұрын
AAA slop is such a scam for benchmarks.
@Reaper_ZL1
4 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jamegumb7298
4 ай бұрын
The only games I play are GTFO, Eve, L4D2, and stuff like Abzu, Journey, Limbo, Inside, etc. The odd Horizon, Tomb Raider too though, but all just once, maybe, just maybe, twice but none of those are hugely demanding and if they are tough luck. I just need a good card for GTFO really.
@MotherCrimsonSage
4 ай бұрын
@@jamegumb7298I just want to play Skyrim, Fallout 4, Valorant, Apex Legends, League Of Legends, Outward and Kenshi. So on one hand the eSports games I want to play can be played on a toasted but the old games I want to mod to hell need a 4090.
@randomSaltyUser
4 ай бұрын
@@jamegumb7298 An EVE player huh? Those are certainly rare.
@mikelay5360
4 ай бұрын
😂 premium copium. These will be out soon. We'll see
@medievalcaucasian
4 ай бұрын
Gamer Meld why the clickbait title? You have respectable amount of following no need for it
@mikelay5360
4 ай бұрын
It burns because it's AMD😂
@VincentPandian-z9b
4 ай бұрын
Yes. Agreed. I stopped Subscribing because of the Click-Bait deceptive titles. Haven't watched for months. Just decided to watch again and he still hasn't changed. Not a reliable dependable source. People who use Click-Bait just distort and twist the facts. Disappointing tech journalism.
@Kneedragon1962
4 ай бұрын
[Roll eyes] -> 12 minutes or so. So Intel are cherry-picking the numbers. Intel Marketing are doing marketing and Spin. What else is new? Today is a day that ends in 'Y'?
@mikelay5360
4 ай бұрын
Who doesn't cherrypick numbers, that's the point of marketing
@Kneedragon1962
4 ай бұрын
@@mikelay5360 ~ True. Must be why I don't like it.
@Meoknet
4 ай бұрын
You didn't call out Intel for just labeling the columns on the chart "workloads" so we have no idea what workloads were actually tested. They could have tested it in Candy Crush performance for all we know.
@kaystephan2610
4 ай бұрын
RX8000 and RTX 5000 releasing in 2025 actually fits well cause then you can get a Ryzen 9950X3D. Imagine getting a 5090, OC'ing it to 600W, then you have a 9950X3D drawing 170W and then with the rest of the system you're at a constant thermal output of like 850W lmao you need a constantly running AC to not turn your room into a sauna 😂😂
@96kylar
4 ай бұрын
Cool. I’ll buy 3.
@sspringss2727
4 ай бұрын
Tell me you don't know nothing about power draw without telling me you don't know.
@W0ND3RB0Y1
4 ай бұрын
The fact that we generally don't have AC in homes in Denmark is going to make this interesting..
@anotherhuman9974
4 ай бұрын
Someone will find a way to use the excess heat and convert that into energy for home heating or cooking 😂
@sspringss2727
4 ай бұрын
@@W0ND3RB0Y1 where I live, if you don't have an ac, 9 months out the year you will be suffering.
@pju28
4 ай бұрын
The focus should be pinned on the stability and natively support of old DX games without translayers. So Intel will not made it this time too, doesn’t matter how performance improvements they showing with this next gen of Intel GPUs.
@DustyCruz
4 ай бұрын
Also make it so that reBAR isn't a requirement to use it. I used the arc A770 16gb on my old i7 6700k pc that doesn't support rebar and the A770 runs worse than a gtx 1060 without rebar.
@jasonvors1922
4 ай бұрын
All I can say is if you like to play ancient games just buy a used nvidia or amd card. If you want to send diagnostic data and report issues and make the best possible Intel cards and save some money buy Intel gpus if not, Good luck with the horrible pricing from amd/nvidia gpus new.
@pju28
4 ай бұрын
@@jasonvors1922 I don’t get paid for research by Intel. It’s their job.
@tohur
4 ай бұрын
@@pju28 then WTF did you buy a first gen product bruh.. legit dGPUs wasn't a intel thing til Arc and you sitting here whining and complaining knowing full well it was first gen lmao.. the idiocy
@jasonvors1922
4 ай бұрын
@@pju28 It's optional.
@NickChapmanThe
4 ай бұрын
I was washing dishes and sloshed some water onto the phone while watching and it made playback speed to 1.5x for 30 seconds and it was a wild ride.
@96kylar
4 ай бұрын
It was probably normal, since it took 4 and a half minutes for him to even talk about anything.
@rangersmith4652
4 ай бұрын
The biggest issue with these new Intel CPUs is that they are too new to have a track record of reliability. Who wants to be an involuntary Beta tester of an expensive CPU bought with his or her own hard-earned money?
@96kylar
4 ай бұрын
I will be. Among a billion others. Cheers.
@rangersmith4652
4 ай бұрын
@@96kylar No doubt many people will buy them. I sincerely hope everything goes well because viable competition is good for us all.
@geekmechanic1473
4 ай бұрын
@@rangersmith4652the same occurred when amd released the x3d versions of their 12 and 16 core cpus and are still buggy mainly due to one ccd having x3d
@vishalkumar-hi7wi
4 ай бұрын
Watching after years Sigh..... It good to be back
@scintilion
4 ай бұрын
In lieu of honesty, baffle'em with power point.
@sjargo11
4 ай бұрын
This episode was just: “BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE!”😂
@Kneedragon1962
4 ай бұрын
13:45 ~ Are AMD's next gen GPUs dead on arrival? Toyota are releasing cars for next year in the $40 ~ $60k price range. They're not going to make a half million $ car (or a 2 million $ car) to take on Ferrari or Porsche. Oh No! Wailing & gnashing of teeth! Toyota are dead on arrival! Toyota is never going to be a serious car manufacturer again! Selling video cards to gamer_bois with intended prices of way over a thousand US dollars, is insane. If AMD have decided they're simply not going to compete in that top end of the market, that doesn't mean AMD are giving up on gaming. They do (after all) make X-boxes and Play-Stations, and they're planning to bring out mid-range desktop GPUs. They seem to be dropping out of low-end as well, simply because the on-board graphics is going to be good enough for that. I have one objection to that. I want to run at least 2 monitors. I have 2 now, plugged into this very old GTX-750 Ti. (On an i7-6700.) I don't need any more video / gaming performance than I have now, but I do want to have a $100 ~ $200 fairly new / recent video card, with current active Linux Kernel / driver support, and 2 or more video out jacks. And no, I don't want to do fancy daisy-chain tricks with it, that's going to be flaky and error prone. Yes, I could buy a new 1440p monitor with wide-screen, but I'm already looking at $3,ooo + for my new Zen5 R9 9950X, I don't really want to throw away both my working monitors at the same time. It is time for a major system upgrade, yes, but let's not get silly here ~ I'm already looking at paying out about $1,600 Australian, just for the damn CPU.... ? Yes, double the advertised US price is a pretty good ballpark estimate. Some place between $1,200 & $1,600. For the processor alone. Then there’s motherboard, memory and everything else. I also have a lusting for a new Noctua NH-D15 G2 ~ the new improved version. More heat pipes, new fans ~ That’s going to be about $300 Australian. That’s if I can get one. [sigh].
@Unknown2you96
4 ай бұрын
Man, I can't keep watching these clickbait titled videos anymore. So tired of thinking there is going to be a real update to be left with nothing of note regarding the title of the video.... Setting to do not recommend this channel. This will do nothing but just maybe it will spark change so your viewers don't get clickbaited daily anymore...
@StingyGeek
4 ай бұрын
So far 'next gen' anything looks like it's fairly underwhelming.
@fajaradi1223
4 ай бұрын
Don't worry and do not ever hesitate. Remember, the more you buy the more you save
@StingyGeek
4 ай бұрын
@@fajaradi1223 Noooooo!!!!!!!! ;)
@johnpaulbacon8320
4 ай бұрын
Very intriguing. I will wait and see how all this new hardware performs after release.
@JSHoward187
4 ай бұрын
This is the smartest thing to do, My guess is Intel will take the performance crown until X3D is released and then back and forth as always.. I love the click bait on these talking heads videos. Nvidia destoys AMD! The very nexy day AMD 8900XTX 2X faster than the 5090!
@jasonvors1922
4 ай бұрын
@@JSHoward187 Amd had major losses in gpu sales this time around, Can't expect premium prices if you can't deliver drivers on time.
@JSHoward187
4 ай бұрын
@@jasonvors1922 I agree but my point was that these talking heads will say one thing on Tuesday and the exact polar opposite on Wednesday.
@jasonvors1922
4 ай бұрын
@@JSHoward187 Kinda like mooreslawisdead than keep fanboying over everything amd/nvidia related than keep trying to talk you into buying something brand new every year
@JSHoward187
4 ай бұрын
@@jasonvors1922 Exactly, This why I liked the OPs comment. Wait for the GN or Hardware unboxed reviews and then make a decision based on actual fact.
@rene.s.s
4 ай бұрын
RDNA4 next year makes sense. Why rush out if 5070 won’t be well into next year?
@biomechanique6874
4 ай бұрын
It makes sense to delay RDNA tech until the production side is tuned to max reliability. That way everything works 100% for the customer experience.
@enricofermi3471
4 ай бұрын
RX 8000 series doesn't have to be top performer, it just needs a humongous ray tracing performance uplift, better upscaling (at least at the level of DP4A XeSS) and normal pricing. The overwhelming majority of users don't purchase the absolute tops, like ×90, instead its high (×80, ×70) and mid (×60) range cards that sell the most. An 8800XTX that performs like a 4080/5070 both in raster *and* ray/path tracing, would be a huge deal if it's a few hundred bucks cheaper than said 5070.
@masterlee1988
4 ай бұрын
Yep, in fact it could encourage me to buy one.
@Winnetou17
4 ай бұрын
I don't fully agree with all the mentions in the "Intel details shady" section, but I support the critical thinking, the "let's not gulp what the company gives us, unregurgitated", this was overall a pretty good attention to the detail, which is what we need. Good job, Gamer Meld!
@SpruceLily02411
4 ай бұрын
Like i don't what you mean by RX 8000 Series DOA? like they're not dead on arrival at all lmao. I heard RDNA 4 is just basically a refresh of RDNA 3 and that RDNA 5 will be the even more powerful one so.... where is this DOA coming from? Also i don't know why people are unhappy with amd not doing the high end honestly there is no point for them as they've done really good for low-end and mid-ranged gpus. So it's better they focus on where people can get affordable gpus that use that 8-12gb or even 16-20gb vram
@mark11145
4 ай бұрын
Xe2 is a massive uplift from the pile of scat it’s previous version was. Translation = Xe2 may actually be a descent entry level GPU. And the Skymount comparison 😂. OMG. We are watching a Kodak or Xerox moment here folks. Enjoy the show.
@evers6214
4 ай бұрын
Rdna4 isn’t a big enough jump in price/performance vs rdna3. So as manufacturing cost drop for the 7000 series its probably more profitable to just keep selling those for now.
@mark11145
4 ай бұрын
Is RDNA4 DOA? No it means AMD has prioritized silicon to get on the AI GPU gold rush in the corporate and server space.
@bitterseeds
4 ай бұрын
We're seeing RDNA4 support being added to the Linux kernel and Mesa, so not quite dead. It may not be the uplift from RDNA3 that folks expect, that may be RDNA5 ... but 4 is still coming. I doubt they'd add support in Linux for it if it wasn't going to be released.
@barklabutson166
4 ай бұрын
Why would i lol not going to update my desk top every time something new comes out ,lets wait for the bugs first
@anotherhuman9974
4 ай бұрын
Intel has their own version of Bidenomics performance improvements 😂
@RobloxianX
4 ай бұрын
being budget orientated does not mean "dead on arrival". We're going to have killer sub $250 GPUs with RDNA 4
@truthlightseekers3336
4 ай бұрын
That's funny! Sounds like intel is playing tricks & pulling the wool over their customers eyes, very deceitful that's one of the reasons they try to confuse you with their naming of the cpus!
@finonfire
4 ай бұрын
The way you explained the Intel Benchmarks on next Gen Chips makes me feel great that I chose build my computer with an AMD (AM5 7700x) Chip. 😄
@acme420
4 ай бұрын
do we need new video cards? the current ones arent doing anything. besides fighting against unoptimized console ports of games no one wants to play anyway. im not seeing a single thing to justify the current video cards and certainly nothing to justify spending 2k on a video card to run a bad game at 1080 with upscaling. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
@RayneAngelus
4 ай бұрын
Bear in mind also... RX 8000 is, from rumors, supposed to match current top performance for midrange pricing. So they... kind of want to make sure they've sold all their 7900 XTs and XTXs before they launch it. Or even announce it, really.
@1contrarian
4 ай бұрын
Take a shot everytime he says "but"
@joeldoxtator9804
4 ай бұрын
Still sitting on an RX 6800 that doesn't get stressed by anything. I really couldn't care less if they hold back until 2030 at this point on the next generation.
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc
4 ай бұрын
RX8000 failed to "fuse" multi-chiplets so it will stuck with 7900XTX level of shaders of 6,144 units. Well, there are no such things as bad products, only bad pricing which AMD can dodge both bullets if they want to. After all at 32" I don't think you need 4K at all.
@iequalsnoob
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 they're bad. Just stop
@AbzRaider
4 ай бұрын
@@iequalsnoob lmfao nvidia fanboy
@williehrmann
4 ай бұрын
@@AbzRaider but it is true. The rx 7000 generation is dead because too little raytracing performance. And now they finally wanna up raytracing performance by x2 which would finally catch up with RTX4000 series but they wait until RTX5000 series which will also double raytracing performance so then RX8000 has again half the raytracing performance of Nvidia. No way anybody will buy this shit. Even if its 200$ cheaper for same raster performance, that doesn't interest anyone if the raytracing performance is half. They will go bankrupt if their CPU sales don't rescue them. AMD GPUs have basically been dead since 2018 when NVidia released raytracing and AMD took almost 2 years to even support it. Now they need 2 years longer to finally support a DLSS like feature. They have the worse upscaling (FSR 3 is still lackluster), and so on. The 200-300$ price cut to nvidia comes at so much performance and feature cost. I can never understand how AMD fanboys don't see this. Yeah they get a cheaper product with equal raster power but that is the ONLY thing they are getting everythign else is missing or worse.
@tonydalimata
4 ай бұрын
Yah , AMDs biggest problem is they don't read the room and shoot themselves in the dik with bad pricing at launch .
@fajaradi1223
4 ай бұрын
@@AbzRaider No, he's not wrong. Dunno bout the Nvidia femboy tho. I'm a long time Radeon user, since HD 5000 series. This next gen Radeon probably just like what they've did in the R9 200 - R9 300 era. But how bad it'll be? Let's wait until we got some proper benchmark.
@MrBlackdragon1230
4 ай бұрын
I dont believe that RDNA 4 will be DOA as it will still have hardcore AMD fans and more budget conscious buyers for it. Overall though if Intel doesnt screw up with the Battlemage launch then AMD might have a tough sell though with RDNA 4 especially for budget buyers.
@genblob
4 ай бұрын
The only thing that matters with RDNA4 is price. They need to make great mid range and entry level GPUs with pre-2020 pricing ($100-$300) to win over the market because they're going to fail if they continue to copy Nvidia's greedy pricing trend
@davidbuddy
4 ай бұрын
So the one thing I'm not sure you realize is that Lunar Lake only has LPE cores, no regular e cores. What makes a "regular" E core is if (it's cluster) is on the same ring bus as the P cores. Unlike Meteor Lake, this is not the case for Lunar Lake, hence why Intel compared it to LPE cores on Meteor Lake. The only "E cores" on Lunar Lake is in the low-power island, not on the same ring as P cores.
@somu9821
4 ай бұрын
AMD goes through these phases every once in awhile after a disastrous launch or getting destroyed by Nvidia or maybe combination of both. They did it back in 2007 with HD3870 after getting absolutely battered by 8000 series imo best gpu series of all time 8800s to be precise, then they did it again in 2016 with rx480 after the Fury X launch then again in 2019 with rx5700xt after the Vega launch. No wonder after the terrible launch of RDNA 3 gpus they're back to mid range gpu only, it offers so little over RDNA 2 considering how well it was received by everyone it was hard to compete against it but the pricing didn't help them and TSMC plays a pretty big part with the pricing
@damjanforjanic
4 ай бұрын
They complicate the data, in the end a 7% more powerful processor, most of them do not realize, it is important that they have a new processor, they use it for years and years.
@Z3r0Ultima
4 ай бұрын
drinking game for everytime he says "BUUUUUT"
@Markane.
4 ай бұрын
It's starting to look like Nvidia and AMD have made a deal to delay new releases to boost the plummeted sales numbers on high end cards...which like you know are very bad deals
@mohamedaliessbai6858
4 ай бұрын
Even if RTX 5000 is coming this year, it's very likely that only the high-end 5090 or 5090 and 5080 will launch this year, so AMD postponing the lunch of RX8000 to next year when the mid and low tier RTX5000 will lunch that they'll be competing against, is a smart move and gives them ample time to better check and improve the products and fix any issues that might arise from a hasty lunch.
@nicholasgilbert4227
4 ай бұрын
RDNA4 being DOA depends on price.
@masterlee1988
4 ай бұрын
Yep, will make or break them.
@dzgaming1
4 ай бұрын
I can stick with my x470 Ultra Gaming Gigabyte board with 32gb of DDR4 and just upgrade my CPU and get a 6800xt for $350 with warranty or I can just make a complete upgrade since Micro-Center has a combo deal for a intel or amd combo of 32gb DDR5 that include a variety of boards to go with the CPUs and DDR5 sticks for $399 to $499 to $599. Considering I can keep my PSU and case plus my amazing BE QUIET CPU cooler, that is $400 + $350 = $750... considering I paid $699 on release day for my 1080ti gigabyte card at Micro-Center... upgrading seems like a steal especially after I sell my old PC parts.
@pssthpok
4 ай бұрын
When you are talking about a new processor, and your most common phrase is "it gets even worse"... That's not a good sign. Shame on Intel for such slimy marketing material.
@Masaim6
4 ай бұрын
Depends on price. At this point 8800xt has to be $500.
@masterlee1988
4 ай бұрын
True, no higher than that.
@gstormcz
4 ай бұрын
I think rather Ryzen 8000 Apus are DOA. 8600g and 8700g are already out for some time, 8400f and Ryzen 8700 seem to follow. 9000 series leaks or performance look impressive. Radeon 8000 main selling point could be performance comparable of top end 7000 series but much more affordable price! I forgot to mention 4nm node of compute dies resulting in better efficiency (TDP).
@op_gamer
4 ай бұрын
NgreeDIA Is still not an option!
@crzyces1693
4 ай бұрын
If AMD releases next year with no high-end, yes, they are DOA. Like literally zero point in releasing them DOA. Lisa Su is a big girl, and the Radeon group should be more than capable of setting MSRP's without Nvidia as an anchor in every price segment, especially since they can always just lower the damn price on card they screw up their estimated value to consumer on...which they seem to always have to do anyway, at least since Polaris _take two._ Heh, the 5700/XT line was out what, 2 weeks before being discounted $50? I remember getting an XFX Ultra for $350 two weeks after launch, and there seemed to be at least two models on NewEgg and Amazon at any given time outside of mining crazes at that $50 below MSRP at any given time. Ooo...maybe if AMD does do that the feds will finally slap them with a price fixing/collusion/market leader monopoly case (yes, Nvidia could be the market leader while AMD could be the ones whacked for billions in antitrust violations if it could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they were relying on Nvidia's price structure for their own products...not that the government would enforce a silly law like that, I mean monopoly shmonopoly amirite? Silent Collusion? Pft, minor stuff, doesn't discourage price competition in a fair and open market in the least.)? Irl, if they do hold back cards it is probably a stock issue. Ei. they still have 6800's for sale at this point, do they really want to release more cards in that general performance area when the 6800 is going for $370 new? Probably not, and who knows how many fricken 7700Xt's they have out there, but based on the pitiful sales I would bet it is a crap ton. Same with the 7600 8GB, 7800XT and I'd assume all of the 900 cards. AMD just f'd up so badly by underestimating who buys new high-end cards the most. It's not the casual COD or Fortnite players, it's single player gamers, and when you go past $500 bucks or so, people expect to be able to use raytracing. When they see slides from Nvidia they rarely showcase the RE engine or Spider-Man, they show Cyberpunk and Alan Wake where AMD just gets destroyed. Now educated consumers are going to know that anything less than a 4070 is going to be essentially useless for raytracing at any noticeable level (at 1440P upscaled from 1080P) if they still want playable (30+ 1% minimums if we are being generous) and might consider the 7900XT/X...but that's still a big ask over the 4070 Super, 4070 Super Ti and 4080 Super if the person does play a lot of single player games. The people who aren't in the _know_ are just going to grab a 4060Ti bc they see 35 avg FPS with RT on in game wtv compared to AMD's 7700XT at 19FPS, not realizing that the game is probably going to be a stuttery mess on the 4060Ti unless the upscale from 720P to 1080P bc the 1% lows are in the mid teens. Then when they shut RT off the 7700XT is all of a sudden 10FPS ahead...bleh, unless there is a legit overstock issue AMD would be silly to delay, as what better time to release midrange cards than when Nvidia is 6 months away from having anything in that performance area to compete at anything that could be considered in the same ballpark of price to performance? Ahh well, it would not surprise me, as it would just be another missed opportunity due to bad decision making regarding the Radeon Technologies Group.
@gatsusagara6637
4 ай бұрын
RDNA4 is going to be cheap as hell if it comes out next year! Awesome!!!!
@SeraNeph
4 ай бұрын
I hope the Ryzen 9000 X3D is good enough for GTA VI. My next problem is the GPU trying to run GTA VI on PC in 2026 - 2027 in Real Time Path Tracing 144fps 1440p.
@ElladanKenet
4 ай бұрын
Better buy a 5090 then. Or a 6090.
@glordium1951
4 ай бұрын
be glad if it runs at 1080p 60fps with a 6900 💀
@Roweyy
4 ай бұрын
Without pathtracing? Easily, with pathtracing gonna be close enough I'd say
@Calisota
4 ай бұрын
real time pathracting 144FPS? not even the RTX5090 will be able to achieve that. games aint optimized for that workload, neither is your home computer designed to push so much data.
@Calisota
4 ай бұрын
u know what, If the RTX5090 can get 144fps in RT Pathtracing at 1440p native(no DLSS/FSR/FrameGen shenanigans) Ill switch to Nvidia
@PlanetXGames_YT
4 ай бұрын
Hearing that AMD isn't competing on the high-end is frustrating, and terrible for consumers. That gives Nvidia effectively carte blanche to charge whatever they want for their higher-end cards (RTX 5090, 5080, etc or whatever they end up getting called). Nvidia was even planning a 4090 Ti/Titan card for this generation but didn't release it bc AMD wasn't challenging enough. Makes you wonder
@callibor3119
4 ай бұрын
If only coins can have the same form of attention as AI and also like The Great Depression. We could be bringing about another Golden age since the beginning of the internet and the start of the 21st century. Now would be a good time for people to start realizing that dollar bills holds no weight at all than the coins that are in our nation. And devaluing our coins can even do damage to the world.
@ToallpointsWest
4 ай бұрын
AMD's GPU division is their red headed stepchild
@canabitter
4 ай бұрын
They have to pick their battles
@RetroArcadeGuy
4 ай бұрын
Now Nvidia needs to come out with a line of processors compatible with intel or amd socket or come out with a socket of their own? So they can be even with AMD and Intel.
@Thor847200
4 ай бұрын
Nope RDNA4 is still set to launch before the end of the year. It will also be ~7900XT level of performance but @ just over half the price of the 7900XT. Which would mean RTX50 series Mid Rang is in Trouble Price wise if Nvidia doesn't lower prices.
@masterlee1988
4 ай бұрын
Yeah this is what I'm hoping for RDNA 4 as well.
@FearlessTruth1911
4 ай бұрын
There is no way RDNA 4 is dead on arrival since AMD managed to pack 40 CU in a Mobile chip, you can assume they can pack way more then that in a GPU, maybe even 192 which would equal 12288 Stream Processors and with those specs in mind that would be way faster then RX 7900 XTX they have right now.
@Neopulse00
4 ай бұрын
14:45 - AMD is waiting for delivery of the new GDDR7 memory from Micron.
@petersketch1990
4 ай бұрын
What happen to Microsoft direct storage ?
@stephenmcallister2169
4 ай бұрын
you won’t ever see me owning an Intel dedicated GPU. maybe done with their CPUs too. AMD Cpu and Nvidia GPU works great for me.
@TheBlueBunnyKen
4 ай бұрын
8000 series gpu's are just a filler for 9000 series gpu's, since they starting over from scratch to fix the performance isues
@1Tubevideo
4 ай бұрын
This is a great channel, it doesn’t need the clickbait. You are assuming it will be doa but you don’t know it. At least use a question mark and not an exclamation point. I like this channel a lot but I hate clickbait…
@jacklawrence2221
4 ай бұрын
what really matter is the new raytracing of RDNA4,not specs
@ericwright3141
4 ай бұрын
If amd can provide an rx 7900 xtx performance for $500 they will crush it.
@masterlee1988
4 ай бұрын
I would love that but rumors have it at RX 7900 XT level. I'll be fine with it either one.
@rexyoshimoto4278
4 ай бұрын
Some of this stuffs' gone over my head. A little more garage work than I assumed.🤥
@josiahsuarez
4 ай бұрын
All GPUs should have much lower TDP. Nvidia generally fare very well in that regard, but no card should require a ~>1KW power supply just for a higher framerate 😮
@DS-xj8bp
4 ай бұрын
Intel has to complete with Qualcomm now and that makes this make more sense. They probably got rid of hyperthreading for efficiency and took that approach. When hyperthreading was made cpus were single core. This was a way to make more use out of a 1 core CPU. Now this day in age this can be dropped in favor of more cores. Like my pc being 16 cores. Hypertheading isnt as important.
@TheOne214
4 ай бұрын
RTX 5000 series is also releasing next year.
@乾淨核能
4 ай бұрын
everything looks awesome on paper>>>>>>>>>>>>
@RayneAngelus
4 ай бұрын
"Faster than 8840U"... but that's out *now*, and Strix will be out before Lunar Lake. So... yeah.
@cuteAvancer
4 ай бұрын
I'm upgrading to AM5 so I can get the 9800x3D or 9950x3D when it comes out because my 9700k is struggling 💀
@joelw611
4 ай бұрын
...but wait, there's more! That's all that was going through my head lol
@offic.dzanjo3048
4 ай бұрын
The performance/watt/area metric is kinda misleading... Without looking at the die... Look at the area of the e cores ... It's an over all lose for sure.
@gprojectnoob4779
4 ай бұрын
Thats just dumb. We've been saying AMD should stop trying to compete with NVidia on horsepower and concentrate on building cards for regular folk, ie. non rich gamers and now that they look like they are doing it we say "they are dead on arrival" . If they play their cards/prices right they could get some serious adoption.
@djfromla
4 ай бұрын
I wonder what the power consumption is, maybe they are trying to show performence without needing your own Electric Generation Plant... confusing.
@toxiccan175
4 ай бұрын
“But wait, it’s worse. Again!”
@soaphelps
4 ай бұрын
tomorrow: "AMD gpu's dominate benchmarks!" the day after: "AMD has dropped the ball"
@thetheoryguy5544
4 ай бұрын
@@soaphelps Some of these review KZitemrs are slow! GamersNexus is the only one I like.
@vxnguyen2334
4 ай бұрын
I waited for RX 8000 and got disappointed. Now I'm hoping the rumor is true and it will not come this year because I just ordered 7900 GRE :D
@SigmaHuman69
4 ай бұрын
Price is King
@heyheysaturday2492
4 ай бұрын
Im still using Macintosh till this day no virus
@hasyidanparamananda
4 ай бұрын
I think upgrade to am5 feels waste of money with the performance upgrades.
@AJFresh69
4 ай бұрын
AMD not releasing their highest end GPU makes no sense. They should price it competitively for whatever it is
@tkout
4 ай бұрын
Sounds like intel needs to get to the core issue at hand!
@user-sam4465
4 ай бұрын
Intel is trying so hard they redesigned and made meteor lake and then redesigned again and go lunar lake. AMD is not giving them a break for some reason.
@doublecrossedswine112
4 ай бұрын
I'll keep my old gpu as long as I have too. I'll quit gaming before I pay more for a decent gpu than an entire console costs. Not going to happen.
@Swecan76
4 ай бұрын
Clock regression means nothing at all. It's not the same type of architecture or how it works. The E-cores have close to 40% IPC increase and no hyper-threading. It would depend on how they work together etc. Again. I don't care until I see results. Don't need the negativity all the times.
@johnnytshi
4 ай бұрын
Literally, neither Nvidia or AMD cares.
@antondovydaitis2261
4 ай бұрын
It will be satisfying to see Jensen replaced by an AI CEO that requires neither salary nor stock options.
@swagyolo8602
4 ай бұрын
@@antondovydaitis2261 LMAO
@BradleyBeyers
4 ай бұрын
Forecast looks good for my 7900 xtx red devil.
@MohawkNinja636
4 ай бұрын
14:31 AMD waiting for next year to release their mid range GPUs makes sense due to Nvidia releasing their top tier GPUs possibly in Nov/Dec. Why release your mid range when it isn't competing against the competition's top tier? This gives AMD more time to work on the hardware and software.
@rodiculous9464
4 ай бұрын
Really disappointed bc i was hoping for a new card soon. Now I'm wondering if i should get a card while i wait but maybe it will drop in value super fast so i am stuck in limbo
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