The amount of triangles on the frame is fitting for a rotary build
@GrindHardShorts
3 жыл бұрын
So true!
@roymartin7713
3 жыл бұрын
The drifting Dorito!
@aaronh5567
3 жыл бұрын
And it’s a trike, so it’s a triangle no matter what!
@tananam9782
3 жыл бұрын
Triangles and triangles and rotory triangles. This project's name: Pythagoras!
@tananam9782
3 жыл бұрын
Triangles and triangles and rotory triangles. This project's name: Pythagoras!
@jacobdevereux207
3 жыл бұрын
The whole thing with the cables loosening when turning is that you need to make sure the distance between the mounts is equal on both the front and rear.
@aaronsbarker
3 жыл бұрын
and the rake of the head tube needs to match the rake of the steering tube. A change in that angle is going to change the tension on the cables
@jacobdevereux207
3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsbarker that is correct too
@davidrampe392
3 жыл бұрын
CHAIN DRIVE STEERING !!!!!... Sprocket on the bottom of the steering column to sprocket on the top of the forks... You can do it man I have faith in you brother!👊
@kloker0
3 жыл бұрын
This is a must!!
@MetalY2KMusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@kloker0 Thought the same thing!!
@stuckgrenadepin.225
3 жыл бұрын
Best method I could think of.
@kellyhamilton9005
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the difference in cable slack when turned vs straight is likely from the mounting points on the bottom of the handle bars tube being spaced different than on the fork mounting points. That and/or the angles of the 2 aren’t parallel
@CarmaMediaIncDesigns
3 жыл бұрын
I'll give you guys an oil pan, your gunna need it lol.
@600wheel
3 жыл бұрын
Hey brother you could also widen the mounting points for your steering cables to increase the leverage and make steering easier. And even easier when you go back to rods lol!
@danielauen7790
3 жыл бұрын
I love how you said "when you go back to rods" instead of "If".
@600wheel
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielauen7790 Thanks man yah in a situation like that steel cables just have too much stretch so the steering is going to kind of go where it wants to
@danielauen7790
3 жыл бұрын
@@600wheel 100% agree, it would be great for a show bike, but I have a feeling they plan on hammering this thing.
@600wheel
3 жыл бұрын
@@danielauen7790 oh yaa!! Treat it like all their other toys I don’t think the word gentle is in their vocabulary which I think is great
@Shokai899
3 жыл бұрын
not widen but opposite - shorten , narrower mounting points on the steering column. That's the case that leads to leverage increasing and steering will be much accurate too. And RODS LOL indeed , that cable idea is crap .
@wannaberanger8916
3 жыл бұрын
These guys deserve like at least 1 mill views like this is absolutely insane.and difficult
@mattoneill9723
3 жыл бұрын
This channel is by far the best as far as uniqueness and quality filming/editing!! Love it :)
@gordondeitz7838
3 жыл бұрын
Tensioner springs! Route the cables through a spring, one each cable an crimp them on with some Tension with your steering centered.
@nathanmartin5926
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your drone clips. Especially when you hit a tree! 😆 Keep up the cool builds!
@nickblood5040
3 жыл бұрын
Oh My God, you cut up the Colonel! My Favourite! Please, please put him back together,Please
@DanteYewToob
3 жыл бұрын
They didn’t, it’s leftovers from the original parts before the rebuild and upgrades. Colonel is safe! He’s my favorite too.
@VRCommy
3 жыл бұрын
Haha the drone crash was the best B Roll I’ve ever seen 👌🏼 much more engaging and interesting than others
@neonnerd1364
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are gonna wanna stiffen the front shocks. That oil pan came pretty close to the ground a couple times lol.
@EJ-74
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I noticed that also I was waiting for it to hit any second lol Glad it didn't hopefully they will put a skid pan or something to stop it from smashing the oil pan ✌️
@stephenmuir203
3 жыл бұрын
Drone Fail! I love how real and raw you guys are and not scared to show the whoops and oh-shits that everyday brings us. Been a Grind Hard Junkie since Cindys first build!!! Thank you guys for the Great Content!
@williamlindsay3831
3 жыл бұрын
the drone footage is sooo crisp
@7h341mi6h7y808
3 жыл бұрын
First few seconds of the video: "This is frightening. I don't know why." Me: YOU DON'T KNOW?! Seriously though I love these crazy builds. Keep it up you yahoos.
@Andr31982
3 жыл бұрын
A transaxle would really help with the weight distrubution. Really cool build!
@amcustomfab
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the shape this thing is taking !!!
@taptapindustries2580
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, definitely swap the 2 cables for 2 pushrods. Way Safer!!! Looks similar and just way Safer! If one cable fails (not if, when) it's cooked. Steering will hard lock to one side. Totally devastating. Especially considering how crazy fast this thing will be. Also you could change the push rod pin points to change the leverage, easier, or harder steering. Big props. Best show on KZitem. You guys are absolute wizards at your crafts!!!!
@andrewobrien6282
3 жыл бұрын
8:47.....the timing of the music starting in relation to the weld is just impeccable. 👏👏 well done, sir.
@tttEiii
3 жыл бұрын
Dron pilot’s skills are close to GOD!🤟 I remember first videos with fly cam- now it’s awesome! 👍
@atsekjoker
3 жыл бұрын
for the steering you could use a motorbike chain with a sprocket at the handle bar and one on the fork
@GrindHardPlumbingCo
3 жыл бұрын
That would be cool too!
@atsekjoker
3 жыл бұрын
and the steering needs to be much more (8-12 inch) to the front
@PhineasMaxemus
3 жыл бұрын
along with having some of the best builds on the internet, you guys also have the best drone footage.
@TheMeta6
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome content ad always! Couple of steering issues... the attachment points of all of the cables need to be the same distance from their corresponding pivots for consistent steering feel/ cable tension. Move the attachment points away from the pivots for lighter steering. Add cable tensioners for slack adjustment.
@aarnitervo8786
3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about u guys is that u always come up with something new and different and u aren’t afraid to try new things! Very inspiring! Keep it up!
@tomibby
3 жыл бұрын
"This is scary, I don't know why" Everyone with eyeballs: we know why.......
@Kaimera23
3 жыл бұрын
Loving the Mad Max look of this build!
@Mad.Man.Marine
3 жыл бұрын
I love this thing. It is def the most death trap looking build you guys have done!!! Very mad max’esc
@NateD77
3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, it's Nathan from Utah here. Thanks again for the tubing bender! It's almost assembled and ready to start a new project!
@chrisyoung2790
3 жыл бұрын
It totally looks like a bent TV antenna for the frame! Not saying it looks bad at all, it looks freaking awesome. Completely a Grind Hard Plumbing build!
@SeanSteggs
3 жыл бұрын
Always great when Sam comes along, great vibe with the Ethan & Sam. Amazing engineering Ethan love watching your builds.
@kenleach2516
3 жыл бұрын
Just nuts and perfect! Love the drone footage too xx
@quadguy1470
3 жыл бұрын
Those drone shots are just sick, I mean the trike is too but that's what most people come here for. I don't think the cinematography gets the props it deserves.
@jimmyhenderson5250
3 жыл бұрын
Love the new steering Frame changes. With the exception of the cables.
@Levi_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember what type of tubing you were using. Is that a chromoly? Or just DOM steel?
@Levi_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
Never mind. It’s clearly not chromoly. Loved this episode! Hope that steering works out
@uncrustable9923
3 жыл бұрын
did you know you can edit your original comment?
@Joshie2256
3 жыл бұрын
DOM is black, this looks like standard ERW.
@Levi_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
@@uncrustable9923 I had no idea
@Levi_Allen
3 жыл бұрын
@@Joshie2256 thanks for that input Joshua. Still learning the different material types
@RayRay180.
3 жыл бұрын
Adding stiff spring loaded tensioner's to those cables will help alot. If you can constantly keep pressure on those cables to keep up the slack they might work even better
@jeremybailey5024
3 жыл бұрын
what you need is a hydraulic steering setup. they work tremendously and they can give the trike a "ghost steering" look by running the lines through the frame tubing.
@ajbudd1906
3 жыл бұрын
Hey thing to note if you hit a jump slow enough youll hit the oilpan immediately if you notice on camera on first test roll here.
@Everatti
3 жыл бұрын
That steering looks wayyyy cooler now!
@GrindHardShorts
3 жыл бұрын
totally agree
@harlandsharp1342
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are absolutely the kind of guys I wish my friends were lol
@markpreston9562
3 жыл бұрын
New to this channel, 29 seconds into the video..... I like where this is going! Subscribed
@j-beatsimaginationstudio1987
3 жыл бұрын
And that cracked out tree branch really did sneak up on you Brother. Couldn't be seen till it was getting hit. Hope the drone is alright. You rock at flying it...maybe look into drone racing. :)
@Dan_Kornfeld
3 жыл бұрын
The trike needs a rear, copilot seat - strictly for weight distribution testing purposes of course! Keep doing what you do!
@byker4lyfe1
3 жыл бұрын
I love the drone footage. Oh and that thing your building is gonna be wylde
@islandlife9127
3 жыл бұрын
Thats a cool looking machine and the drone skills are amazing. Love the videos guys.
@clarkgendron4562
3 жыл бұрын
“Cool and ridiculous” the perfect way to describe all your builds😂
@AccAkut1987
3 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack of this episode is one point, great work!
@ghosttheoremproductions5469
3 жыл бұрын
You need the steering yoke cable mount width to be exactly the same as the fork if you want to eliminate the slack issue off-center. That is from the pivot so even just the angle from the floor being different will throw it off. Match angle AND width and it will always be 100%.
@Lucas12v
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure i would trust those cables but i gotta admit that they do look cool.
@Jeffe46M
3 жыл бұрын
Those ghost branches get you on analog. Quad rescues the quad haha love it
@MachiningwithJoe
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome build so far guys looking forward to seeing this beast run going to be sick 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
@domenicozagari2443
2 жыл бұрын
I like to see you go fast around a corner :)
@Zzeke
3 жыл бұрын
Old school outboard boats use cable steering, a drum on the steering wheel and pulleys on the motor. Use springs between end of cable and anchor to keep uniform tension. I know you need to keep your ratio closer to 1 to1, but maybe it’s possible to eliminate some of the tension you’re getting when centered by using springs. Just a thought.
@ghostg8
3 жыл бұрын
The only problem I am starting to see is the front wheel. Might just be me but it seems quite weak and when turning at speeds it might buckle with all the weight and the trike trying to keep going forward rather than turning.
@jlucasound
3 жыл бұрын
You guys ALWAYS do everything right!
@Tymopta
3 жыл бұрын
For the quadcopter. Conformal coating to waterproof. Get the brush on kind. I coat the FC the vtx and the speed controllers. The great part is you can solder right through it like its not even there.
@mattbrown3858
3 жыл бұрын
You should tie some holla hoops to the trees and fly the drone through them like a course.....and film it lol
@Bugalona
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is as close to a mechanical horse and chariot as you can get. great episode!
@jjder733
3 жыл бұрын
im extremely excited for this one to start n run
@OfficialistDave
3 жыл бұрын
The OEM cast iron header on the 13B is really heavy. You can save quite a bit of weight putting a tubular header on it.
@GrindHardPlumbingCo
3 жыл бұрын
We will for sure!
@rodmichaud9101
3 жыл бұрын
ive done this type of build before. ive tried cables, ive tried a gear with a chain but the best fix was to use two solid tubed rods,,, just like tie rods . try this and youll derinately loose the sloppieness from the stretching of the cable
@darcylovedavies9859
3 жыл бұрын
You could use 1 long cord to go from one side of the handle bar, up to the head tube and back to the other side of the handle bar leverage point, then put a bracket( one piece of a pulley cut in to thirds) in the middle of the cord and then crimp two stops on either side of the bracket. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
@jordanhorst6
3 жыл бұрын
If you widen the cable link at the steering column it'll impart more force and be easier to steer.
@JoskiFPV
3 жыл бұрын
glad to see you're including more FPV shots
@SimonElenor
3 жыл бұрын
I just love the rear wheel is loose and only two lug nuts!
@davidjessee7701
3 жыл бұрын
Very cool... I think this will definitely b suited for the streets.....
@wayne1959
3 жыл бұрын
nice work so far boys..have you considered extending your steer cable attachment points to ease the steering..i would think an inch or so either end will make things much easier..
@j-beatsimaginationstudio1987
3 жыл бұрын
I predict much much acclaim on this unique build. Mark my words, front page, magazine cover type acclaim. Awesome negotiation of parts in build too. Troubleshooting for you is more like a simple math problem...its no problem haha. Be safe guys :)
@eggertakerlie7320
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome as usually ! Get some lighter tires and smaller diameter wheels in the back (more sidewall). I would think getting rid of some unsprung weight in the rear would help :) Regards from Norway
@mokokawi
3 жыл бұрын
Great job....maybe rods in place of metal wire for steering....hope you get the back smoother....it might be just best for street or smooth dirt
@snowsheldon77
3 жыл бұрын
You should bend that top steering mount bar as well! It does not look right just going straight off the back bone! I would also imagine a bunch of speed wobble with that cable steering set up! If you look at the playback in slow Mo it’s going back-and-forth really quick. Maybe consider a steering stabilizer like a street bike
@brandonlanham7841
3 жыл бұрын
Put some kind of spring loaded dirt bike or pit bike chain tensioner on each side of the frame to keep tension on the steel cables while turning.
@fxtacy
3 жыл бұрын
an aluminum or sheet metal aviator style seat with some dimple die holes would be so cool on this. Get a leather crafts person to make cover using some dark brown leather and just a bit of padding.
@micksed4875
3 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic steering for that, with tandem rams!
@originalbigtee
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe add a damper to the triple clamp..? resonance in those cables are going to lead to speed wobble.
@kylethatcher5828
3 жыл бұрын
You could move the cable mount points on triple clamp out a few inches to provide more leverage and make steering easier. It would require more throw on the handle bars to get full crank though
@bobnorris9312
3 жыл бұрын
The steering looked soooo good
@Mad-Duk_Machine_Werkes
3 жыл бұрын
Observation: Not sure you realize it, but your triple back-bone trellis frame only has braces from center to each side, and nothing across the left to the right one underneath, so it would be possible for them to "Spread" and then the frame twist I think without at least two or three going from the right tube to the left to tie-together the triangle? Then it would be SUPER strong like a Ham Radio antenna tower kinda? The Geometry on the steering will need to have both widths of where the cable bolts START and END the same, and the Steering HEAD angle has to be the same as the Steering Neck angle on the forks- or else it will always go, tight/loose when turning.............
@raymondcoggins297
3 жыл бұрын
Fab work is awesome that's gonna be scary fast hang on can't wait
@elmerkoch3569
3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys love the build if you want to make the steering easier move the connection point on the triple tree the point where it hooks to the front forks thanks and have a great day
@twisteddman
3 жыл бұрын
pushrods instead of cables and mounted farther out, like on the ends of the levers and the shockmounts will give you much more leverage on the steering
@shawnstrode3825
3 жыл бұрын
If you feed the cable through a flexible conduit it will help with the strength and ease of use. Use a good grease. The terminal end fittings should have tensile strength of roughly 250 kg per square centimeter. With these modifications you could safely steer with one cable, two is better. If you find some Harley Davidson clutch cables (or equivalent) it will exceed all of those requirements. Just make sure one end has a threaded adjustment.
@martylawson1638
3 жыл бұрын
Easiest way to fix the steering slack when turned is to make sure the crank arm on the steering and the front forks are absolutely identical. I.e. same crank arm length, and angle between the three pivots. Frankly I'd use the tripple clamps from the front forks as a template for drilling the steering crank arm.
@devinstark4937
3 жыл бұрын
I love the what you guys do and love the build if your going to drift it you need more steering angle. Even as it is it's an awesome build guys keep up the good work.
@dylanantalek2422
3 жыл бұрын
Add a pulley tension setup for the steering cables that will help kinda of how a Bowflex works
@VincentNacon
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the cable for steering is bad idea. Push-rods would be safer for better torque-loading on both sides.
@thisolddog2259
3 жыл бұрын
There use to be a trike in similar design in my town. It had the buick aluminum block v8. You sat way in the back and there was handle bars with 2 connecting rods that ran to the front forks.
@bryanfresh5857
3 жыл бұрын
Make the mounting points for the cables on the forks wider. Mount a bar on top of the forks to extend the mounting points of the cables outward. And it will be easier to move. Push pull system on a airplane.
@jerrywooton4308
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome I mentioned the cables idk if u considered it already or I had some influence but I think it’s sweet
@BansheeBunny
3 жыл бұрын
Add a short but heave spring at the base of each cable under load when centered.
@gillanshaw3960
3 жыл бұрын
You need a wider plate at the bottom of the steering shaft to make the steering easier and to have a proper ratio to the top yoke on the forks
@metricstormtrooper
3 жыл бұрын
Cable steering is ok but ion full lock the change to the dimension between the cables will make it really heavy and wobbly, you should take a leaf out of the old speed boat book and use cable drums on both ends which keeps the cables in the same position relatively and means the steering force required and effort on the forks is constant.😁
@АртёмКрасИнский-ж8ь
3 жыл бұрын
Смотрю вас из России. Парни вы крутые!!! Так держать!!! Очень интересные видео)))
@chriss1914
3 жыл бұрын
Your steering cable slack is do to the offset of the rotating axis on the triple tree VS the zero offset at the controls.
@jackhume4532
3 жыл бұрын
Hi GHPC, you guys are having lots of fun with your builds and I am really looking forward to seeing you start this rotary engine on this particular build with all the brakes and throttle working, oh hers a thought for you guys how about having a twist grip throttle arrangement on this trike ? This has just pop into my head as I was typing this comment to you, what do you guys think 💭,oh and I really love the all the strengthening that you have put in to the front end too. See you guys next time on The GHPC you tube channel.
@EJ-74
3 жыл бұрын
Chrome chains in place of the cables for the steering would look badass Not knocking the cables I just think chains would look better and they would work the same way ✌️
@jeremyhanna3852
3 жыл бұрын
I have a serious question have you guys ever sold something you built or would you build something for a customer I'm 6' 10 and that's the 1st drift trike I ever seen that I think I could ride
@tdogaz4114
3 жыл бұрын
You like the mad scientist that creates master pieces out of nothing👌🏻👏🏻💯
@demonic477
3 жыл бұрын
If your looking to add a bit more weight add a roll bar loop to protect the rider in a roll over . with it being so low and wide it's not likely to roll but it never hurt to be safe
@fonhollohan2908
2 жыл бұрын
" This is kind of scary I don't know why?" Bahahahaha. That's a good one. How do you think! the Pioneers of Aviation felt when they first started attempts at flying planes? Now that would've been terrifying!!!
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