▶Sponsor: Windows 10 Pro ($17) biitt.ly/kPBz6 What are your thoughts on Ryzen 9000 or 9800X3D? Are you buying a new CPU or GPU now or waiting? What games are you excited about? Tell your story in a new comment below!
@robertgowdey
Ай бұрын
Nice work Jason!!!
@MaryannLynch-z9c
Ай бұрын
I think 9800X3D (or 9950X3D if they get that right also) in about a year price performance wise. Am open to they seem to be running Ryzen 9000 better on Linux currently. Likely I'm waiting, 12900KF 4090 48gb DDR5 still kicking but am open to upgrading during AM5 sometime. A lot of people if they have a recent CPU should likely go for a GPU upgrade. We'll have to see how kicking these X3D chips are next month.
@michaeloneill1360
Ай бұрын
4k looking really great this morning! I'm sticking with Zen 4 Ryzen 7000. Question: Is 'King Spec' a reliable brand for: nvme's?? They're going for Dirt Cheap Prices on Newegg.ca
@kommandokodiak6025
Ай бұрын
I dare you to buy a bodycam and run your video vocal inflections IRL for 24 hours. The reactions will be gold.
@TonyMasters-u2w
Ай бұрын
My thoughts: Zen 5 added 30% more logic for floating and integer operations however despite of that it's not fulfilling the performance even with PBO, but why? the obvious issue (apart from TDP throttling and admin mode) is slow Memory access this is because AMD used the same 6nm I/O chip as for Zen 4 the I/O chip contains Memory Controller and Infinity Fabric, I'm not sure which of them is badly designed but this I/O chip was even a bottleneck for Zen 4 that's why X3D cache provides huge performance boost. But even the cache itself is slowing down access to RAM AMD needs re-architect the access to memory or even switch to HBM since they do redesign anyway but without any changes I believe X3D has not reached it's bottleneck yet and therefore 9800X3D will be around 20-30% faster than 7800X3D
@mihirojha4475
Ай бұрын
Ryzen 9000: The best advertisement for Ryzen 7800X3D
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Right??
@immagoat8696
Ай бұрын
I was on the fence to wait or to buy a 7800x3d now. Saw the launch. Bought a 7800x3d. lol
@derp24lordz
Ай бұрын
Just built my first PC and was waiting to see how Ryzen 9000 performed before buying my 7800X3D
@king_sovan
Ай бұрын
Hi, Im also building a pc with 7800x3d, but I can't pick the right liquid cooler for it. Can you tell me, which cooler did you choose in your build?@@immagoat8696
@miguelv431
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@adamcowlam5527
Ай бұрын
I took your advice and upgraded from a 3700X & GTX 1080 to a 5700X3D and used RX 6800 XT, it's amazing! Thank you!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Great to hear! Congrats on your upgrade and so glad we could help!
@ookami-chan3328
Ай бұрын
used 6800 xt is gotta be one of the best values for gpu rn. I've decided on that for my gpu upgrade.
@OutChiller
Ай бұрын
Should have gotten the Ryzen 4070...
@mirrorportal1587
Ай бұрын
@@OutChiller That joke’s getting a bit old now.
@2hotscot
Ай бұрын
@@mirrorportal1587 I prefer the RTX 5800X3D
@JomeFromWork
Ай бұрын
Didn't expect to have Ryzen 4070 section at the ending 😂😂
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
We got so many comments about it lol!
@topgeneralfaith9983
Ай бұрын
Best graphics card
@louisfriend9323
29 күн бұрын
Ryzen 4000 mobile zen2+GCN5 so pretty meh. You'd think 4070 is a typo, but you never know with AMD's laptop naming scheme xD
@caliginousmoira8565
23 күн бұрын
the legend must live on
@caliginousmoira8565
23 күн бұрын
@@louisfriend9323 i see.... you don't actually own the legendary Ryzen 4070.
@JasonLewisNJ
Ай бұрын
I agree the 7800X3D is the way to go right now, just recently converted to AMD after my I9-13900K was damaged from the microcode issue (Great for the first year,). Swapped to AMD paired with and X670E and the system runs like a charm with no issues and cooler too (under volted with the PBO2 curve optimizer). Plus you can really good deals on the CPU and Motherboard combos. Got the 7800X3D, MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk, 64GB G.Skill 6000 CL30 Ram kit and a Crucial 1TB Gen 4 M.2 drive for $754 in a combo at Microcenter a few weeks back.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@2hotscot
Ай бұрын
Microcenter's combos are killing it over the past few years. What is your GPU? If you need more space, watch the pricing on the Team Group MP44Q 4TB drive. I got the Gen3 model for like $230 last December and the newer Gen4 model is under $220.
@JasonLewisNJ
Ай бұрын
@@2hotscot I already had a 4090 GPU, and 3 Samsung m.2 drives (a 1TB 980Pro and 2 2TB 980Pro), The reason I got the Cruical 1TB was for two reasons. First I wanted a new boot drive so I could start fresh and make sure before reusing my old drive. And 2nd I read the reports on the MSI motherboard that there were issues where the rebooting sometimes would "loose" the drive with certain brands in the gen 5 m.2 slot (Reportedly Samsung and WD drives). The 1TB crucial was on sale for $70. The rest of the existing system was the 4090 GPU, Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer III AIO, Corsair 1200W PSU all in a Fractal Meshify 2 case. I looked at the Team Group drives but at the time I was worried of that reported bug, So i stuck with a brand/model on the QVL list..
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@JasonLewisNJ nice high end build.
@neonomad6639
Ай бұрын
Even if 9800X3D be the savior it will be extremely overpriced due to high demands.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Sadly this has been AMD's pattern. But they also usually relent and cut prices pretty fast unlike Intel and NVIDIA.
@JahonCross
Ай бұрын
That's a good thing it will bring down the price of the 7800x3d
@509212301
Ай бұрын
Maybe in a year or two the price would come down to a reasonable level, just like how 7800X3D did
@MrMOGHammer
Ай бұрын
Thing is I wouldn’t wait for the 9000 series savior, the performance gains that we see could simply be that it runs on the same platform than 7000 so there might be physical limitations. Maybe when AM6 comes out there’s gonna be a more significant boost just like between AM2-AM3, AM3-AM4 and so on. But that’s the trade off when they keep a platform for many generations of cpus to keep the upgrade path interesting, you won’t have huge performance boosts but more like improvements, more cores, more like an updated platform instead of a real upgrade.
@robbay8610
Ай бұрын
@@JahonCrossdepends. If you look at the price of 5800x3d. It's still pretty expensive for being pretty old at this point.
@Darkslide2AR-FE
Ай бұрын
Definitely very happy I opted for the Ryzen 5 7600 and RX 7900 GRE
@anon45x57fg
Ай бұрын
I think it's overdue a Collab vídeo between ZTT and PC Builder. No jokes, I think you 2 would make a great partnership, even a one of a lifetime. Thanks for the great info. God bless you
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Sounds like great time!
@STiStein
Ай бұрын
Bought a 7800X3D and a 4070 Super Ti a week ago. Thanks for the hard work you put in to these videos brother!
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Nice build.
@PCBuilderChannel
25 күн бұрын
Congrats on the purchase!! You're so welcome, thanks for watching ;)
@K.R.98
Ай бұрын
I‘m happy that my comment made it into your video 🎉☺️
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for comment!!
@siema14123
Ай бұрын
I just snatched a 7800x3d on a $50 discount. If the 9800x3d was any good it'd be hyped up way more than it is now. It will probably be like 10-15% more performance for 20% more price and 7800x3d will raise in price because of that
@gman9552
Ай бұрын
9800X3D sounds like a 7800X3D with more tweaking options for couple more fps. The actual uplift may only come with the next generation.
@Modifiedd_
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos! Upgrading my PC has been easy with your videos and professional opinions ! 7800x3d and 4070ti Super combo have made 1440 so smooth !
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
So glad to have helped! Congrats on your upgrade! Show off a build pic if you like on twitter/threads @pcbuilderjason
@pablogualo
Ай бұрын
I’m on my way to pick up the 5700X3D, upgrading from a 3700X and a 6700XT 🎉🎉 Most of the time, I’m working as a software developer in Linux, but now I want to play more games 😄
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Nie!! Congrats on the upgrade. See our "how to upgrade your pc 2024" video if that's helpful.
@williammunny9206
Ай бұрын
Good morning Mr. Jason and crew, outlaw kitties!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Good morning! Kitties say hi!
@jasonsmuts7934
Ай бұрын
Super happy I pulled the trigger on getting the 7800X3D just before Zen 5 came out, looks like I'm not missing out much
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yes!! Congrats on the build!!
@mastershultz
Ай бұрын
Same, bought into am5 when microcenter 7800x3d/mb/ram bundle dipped to $450. No regrets
@gezimlimoni2319
Ай бұрын
Same,, just cost me at Microcenter 500$,,,runs perfect and super happy!
@yubrandomain
Ай бұрын
same, got refund on my 14900k and got a 7800X3D. Night and day difference, cooler and WAY more efficient. I overclock and once I discovered the microcode issue on the power draw, was already too late and been degraded. Had a 5950x for my capture machine and a great chip! As a long time Intel computer build and overclocker, Intel better be scared of the X3D chips.
@TheOneShadyCat
Ай бұрын
Same here
@virtualb01
Ай бұрын
Step 1 - waited for 9000 series, they disappointed Step 2 - wait for 9000x3D or Arrow Lake Core Ultra Step 3 - missed out on 7800x3D this whole time Going to literally just have to pull the trigger soon…waiting trying to figure out if next gen will eventually be worth it keeps proving to be wrong play.
@banana_bread_at_work
Ай бұрын
Same boat
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Its frustrating for sure! But at least if you go with the 7800X3D you will get a fantastic gaming experience.
@jrtalkin5558
Ай бұрын
You can always get a 7800x3d now and sell it when you want to upgrade to next gen x3d. That’s what I plan to do anyways
@everything-bagel
Ай бұрын
Ya same here. I'm just going to get a late-to-the-game 7800x3D, then sell it on ebay after I get the eventual 9800x3D 😑
@therealest297
Ай бұрын
You’ll keep getting in the same trap with that mindset, cause I have waiting for the newest cpu/gpu to come out to see if it’s worth it. I’d just get the 7800x3d during a sale (maybe when it drops below $350?) because it will 100% be more than enough for the next few years . Unless they decide 16k resolution is needed because we need more clarity in games…
@facelessvaper
27 күн бұрын
I just purchased a used sapphire nitro+ RX6800[non-XT] going from my rx5600xt...Sold a load of tech for half of the £380 price with 24 months warranty... So happy!
@Auruchius
Ай бұрын
I deeply appreciate the answer here jason! Reason I've been asking is because Im driving a super ultrawide and i have to rely on heavy upscaling and lowering settings to barely achieve 60 fps as a baseline, and i don't feel like it has been cutting it for me. I just can't justify the RTX 50 series at launch, so the value is much better for the 4080 or an XTX later down the line.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the question! Its a good one and I'm sure lots of folks are in the same boat.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What is your budget?
@3dchick
Ай бұрын
Still happy with my 5950, lol. Keeping it does make me feel like I should be yelling at people to get off my lawn at this point, but I'm keeping it for the foreseeable future. 😂
@sstier48
Ай бұрын
If you're serious about gaming grab a 57-5800 x3d.. those things are basically equivalent to the new gen non-x3d flagships
@3dchick
Ай бұрын
@@sstier48 Im not a gamer, which is why I don't need the super fast. I'm all about capacity for 3d animaiand rendering, mostly in Unreal, but some Blender, too. ☺️
@timometsanoja9666
29 күн бұрын
5950 is still a very solid CPU. I don't think you will be seeing many issues due to it for a couple of years still... The new platform is better, but it is not like it went from 20 to 200 with that upgrade. More like 20 to 24...
@mrdinosaurproductions9507
8 күн бұрын
That’ll last you a while!
@AthamAldecua
Ай бұрын
I grabbed the 7800X3D on day one. I would still go with it if I were to build a new system today.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Nice!
@mariodevita661
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannelHello. I have i7 12700k 😣
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yup me too. What are the rest of your specs?
@Hybris51129
Ай бұрын
This whole launch feels like I am reliving the Vega launch or 1st/2nd gen Ryzen. Tons of hype but reality is extremely disappointing and doesn't come close to meeting even pessimistic expectations.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Very frustrating!
@dotxyn
Ай бұрын
Part of AMD's strategy is to make their previous gen more attractive. The latest gen is priced high and for early adopters, then will become attractive once their previous gens sell thru enough and it gets price cuts. Zen 4 pricing moved Zen 3, Zen 5 will keep moving Zen 4, RDNA3 moved RDNA2, etc
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Well they are nailing that this time! (;
@felicytatomaszewska2934
Ай бұрын
I prefer to wait when a new architecture is launched due to the initial teething problems that take time for the OEMs to resolve. It's not about the cost, but about maintaining my sanity. I don't want to invest in an expensive system just for bragging rights; I want a functional machine that works as expected and provides good value for my investment.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yes there is definitely value in not being an early adopter!
@Squatchster
4 күн бұрын
Great video. I just built a 7800x3d, 64gb ddr5 5600, 4080 super system. It's amazing.... expensive, yes... but like you said it's a hobby and we only buy when we can afford to.
@PCBuilderChannel
Күн бұрын
Very nice!
@MJBOGAN
Ай бұрын
So I'm glad I didn't wait to buy a ryzen 9000 series CPU when my computer needed replacing two weeks ago, I ended up with a r5 7600x for a good deal, it's a nice improvement over my old i5 10600kf, and works with the MSI 240mm cooler I already had.
@jamegumb7298
Ай бұрын
Just got a 4070 Super. It is whatever. The better CUDA performance compared to 3060 is good enough for me.
@victoresarey4036
Ай бұрын
I think ima keep my ryzen 5 7600 non x until the 3d models get cheaper, it's paired with a rx 7900gre and 32gb 6000mhz ram
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Yeah sounds like a plan!
@DarrellEarwood
Ай бұрын
Great video Jason. I know that the performance between the 5800x3d and 7800x3d is a pretty significant considering the faster memory. Surely the gains wont be that huge running the same memory right? Is there a DDR6 ram coming in the near future? Where is all this headed? 10800x3d and DDr6 ram. GeForce rtx 9090?
@randcooley2865
28 күн бұрын
Jason this video is why I follow you and pay to be a member. You have common sense and technical know how 2 traits which don't always go together in the Tech World. You have brought me over to the dark side I will not buy another Nvidea card I don't care how great the graphics are. Looks like 78x3d is the way to go my rule has to never buy CPU/GPU as soon as they are released. Thanks for what you do
@PCBuilderChannel
25 күн бұрын
Thanks so much, we love to hear it rand! We appreciate your support, hope you keep enjoying it all :))
@B_Machine
Ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry about the ryzen 4070. 8 gigs of 3D V-cache isn't enough for the price unless you're playing esports games at 1920x1080 hz.
@Zxanonblade
Ай бұрын
W h a t
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Its just science!
@Kapono5150
Ай бұрын
Zen 5 launch 🚀 was very underwhelming, but still better than a unreliable intel chip
@weirdodude1173
Ай бұрын
Great videos! I have a 9700X and I like it, but it's definitely not a big improvement. For sure these Zen 5's need a real price reduction for what we're getting. Having said that, there is more headroom with these chips and their clock speeds. For 9800X3D I think it's possible that they figure it out like with the 7800X3D and it doesn't need all the power to do well. It could run closer to 6GHz. I expect it to be expensive, maybe $499. Thumbs up!
@Don_8913
Ай бұрын
I'm working on my first build only need 4 parts of the build I'm super excited! I'm using the Antec DF700 Flux, RoG Strix B650E-F, Ryzen 7 7800x3D, Radeon RX 7800XT, Thermaltake TH360 V2 Ultra, G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo 6000 MHz 64GB, WD_BLACK 4TB SN850X NVMe M.2 and the Pure Power 12 M 1000W, ATX 3.1, 80 Plus® Gold. Most of this build was based off of one of your videos I just increased memory size and different graphics card. Thank you!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Best wishes on your build!
@Don_8913
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Thank you! I kind of messed with a pre built pc back in 2017. I bought it from someone for $150 but I put it in a new case cleaned it up and upgraded the ram added a Wi-Fi card but that's about it but I haven't had a PC since 2019. I've missed having one... LoL
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
That is a nice high end build.
@b-spiral8314
Ай бұрын
19:02 as someone who's jumping onto the scene for the 1st time after a decade on my current laptop, this section was what i needed to hear. With everyone on their 3000 series or amd equivalent stressing to wait, i keep justifying, "I've waited 10 years, i can wait another 6 months." I need to relax and pull the trigger.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What is your budget?
@b-spiral8314
29 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy $2k give or take a few hundred for the pc itself
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@b-spiral8314 ok are you going to buy the parts soon? Do you need help?
@jimashby43
Ай бұрын
I would like to see a Video on "Hard to fix PC building mistakes" There must be some crazy stories out there. 😮
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
That's a great idea (:
@2hotscot
Ай бұрын
I put my USB-A cable in backwards...pushed it as hard as I could to get it to fit! /s
@jimashby43
Ай бұрын
@@2hotscot haha ... I turned on the PC and forgot to even buy a OS 😔
@geoffreystraw5268
Ай бұрын
Normally the 9800x3d would be priced really high but even if it is as fast as AMD says I think they hurt themselves so much that it will be 450 again I believe but that's just a gut feeling. If its good it might be 500 bucks which is sad. I have been waiting for this chip for over a year and I am really concerned I should have just gotten a 7800x3d. I have a 7700x and I told myself do not upgrade until zen5 3d chips. Crossing fingers this was a good idea.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Fingers crossed! But at least you have a solid CPU right now
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yeah if the performance of the 9800x3d is not enough then I would definitely get the 7800x3d.
@tmkongen
Ай бұрын
It's a binned 9700x... Short answer is no unless they do some magic with the cache. 7800X3D is a beast for what it is.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Truth
@C-M-E
6 күн бұрын
I wish AMD would have come out and said what 9000 series really was: 7000 series performance while saving energy draw. Only problem being 9000 series is almost overly optimized to the point that when you start overclocking it, it used More energy than 7000 series watt per performance equivalent. For home users looking for raw performance, this wasn't the big release it was made out to be. For server-light or multi-CPU use however (like rendering farms not already using server-level hardware), this would be an ideal upgrade on perf for energy used.
@mariushoudiny4037
29 күн бұрын
Hello there, I want to build a new pc so i got online and found this combo, your opinion will be much appreciated : - ryzen 7800x3d - psu seasonic focus gx 1000w atx 3.0 - mb asus tuf gaming X670E plus wifi - gpu rx 7800xt - ddr gskill trident z5 neo 2x16 gb 6000mhz cl30 - noctua nh d15, (on their site they say it will be enough to keep the cpu in its optimal temperature), case, ssd and HDD (already have it). I just want to play some new games and do the normal stuff on a daily basis, no content creator. Thanks, keep up the good work.
@kelley09162
29 күн бұрын
The Motherboard and CPU Cooler are overkill. Going cheaper on those would allow you to upgrade your GPU to the 7900GRE. I like the rest of the build though.
@DavidMiller-dt8mx
Ай бұрын
My understanding is that the 9000 series is a whole new architechure. I'm not sure what the goal was, and I wonder what this means for the next generation.
@il-conte
Ай бұрын
Probably efficiency, as the new processors have the same performance of the previous generation but with 30W less. I think this architecture is oriented to the server world.
@IGame4Fun2
29 күн бұрын
Slightly new architecture on the two chiplets, the IO chip is same, also 3d cache will be same, so 9000x3d will be also 5-10% from 7800x3d at best
@DavidMiller-dt8mx
28 күн бұрын
@@il-conte I think you're right, there. I wonder what that means for this generation's Epyc.
@defectiveclone8450
Ай бұрын
I got myself a 7600 for cheap :) running great. Zero ram issues. Boot time is the same as my AM4 System on a Gygabite B650M Ice motherboard + Gskill Neo 6000 CL30 36 36 96
@Sanjay-fy7ql
Ай бұрын
wow 16 cores of pure cores
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Haha
@zeroturn7091
Ай бұрын
Yes. None of that E-Core nonsense which makes sense for laptops and handhelds.
@VatiWah
Ай бұрын
im also on a 9900k.. need to upgrade within the next few months for work related reasons. gonna wait for 15th gen arrowlake (assuming its Q3) since i dont wanna gamble with intel 13th or 14th gen. although... i assume 15th gen cpu AND especially a new motherboard, will be super expensive. or gonna go for a 7950x since 9950x now needs core parking, which is kinda ewww. im kinda waiting for a combo deal from microcenter for a 7950x.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yup I would get the 7950x.
@aliensounddigital8729
Ай бұрын
The 7800x3d is very good and recommend it on a sale.
@stuartmellors1452
Ай бұрын
Hey there PCBuilder, I hate to pose the question and I understand if this goes unanswered but I’m planning on getting a pc. My the case I’ve chosen is the Corsair 6500x and I’ll be running the 7800X3D. What motherboard would be best for it? Thank you in advance
@kelley09162
Ай бұрын
Any ATX Motherboard listed in his best Ryzen Motherboard and 7800X3D Build video would be good. Don't like that Case though as it's expensive and doesn't include any fans. If you prefer that type of Case go with the Montech King 95 Pro. It's cheaper than that Corsair and includes 6 Fans.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Hop over to our 7800X3D build guide! We cover our picks for motherboard, ram, cooler, etc there!
@mariodevita661
Ай бұрын
Rog strix b650-e-e gaming wifi and Asus rog strix x670-e gaming wifi
@johnrehak
Ай бұрын
I dont think so. Big jump of 7800x3d from 5800x3d was because of IPC uplift, 500mhz Boost and ddr5 memory throughpoot. 9800x3d vs 7800x3d. Nearly non IPC uplift, same ram support, same x3d chache. Only higher Clock rate can increase 9800x3d performance for around 5% ish.
@Cris1Mac
Ай бұрын
I didn't wait for the 5090. 4090 will be enough for now. If I can only get Amazon to deliver it, it's been sitting at an Amazon carrier facility in my city for 2 days.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Sending good vibes!
@Cris1Mac
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel The good vibes worked. Just updated, Out for delivery 😮 It's nice they use a 6 digit pin that you need to give to receive it. Considering how expensive these GPU’s are.
@2hotscot
Ай бұрын
@@Cris1Mac Especially with all the Amazon orders of cell phones being stolen right out of the driver's hands.
@khakha-c4g
29 күн бұрын
4090 will be enough for many years ( more than 5 years ) not only now ^_^
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
@@Cris1Macwelcome to the 4090 club and what are the rest of your specs?
@GC-by6iz
Ай бұрын
the ryzen 4070 is undefeated
@topgeneralfaith9983
Ай бұрын
How much vram does it has
@2hotscot
Ай бұрын
@@topgeneralfaith9983 32GB DDR5! /s
@Meerak83Games
20 күн бұрын
Thank you! I upgraded from 5700g and rx 6600 to a 5600x3d and rx 6800. Its a PS5 killer!!
@PCBuilderChannel
19 күн бұрын
Nice upgrade!
@mtrps_
Ай бұрын
tbh, best practice is to always lag behind buying/adopting tech 4- 5 years, will always work in your favor in terms of price, security and stability.
@eclxys
Ай бұрын
would make it like 2-4 for more demanding ppl and headroom but agree
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
There are some advantages to not being an early adopter!
@nostrum6410
Ай бұрын
i usually find buying the upper mid tier soon after release is the best plan
@michaeloneill1360
Ай бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Early Adopters pay the Price & suffer the Pain for all of us! Example: In 1982 my friend paid $600.00 Cad. for a Single Tray CD Player!!!
@konev13thebeast
Ай бұрын
Currently eyeing a 7900x for my next build because of this
@Chiefgeargrinder
26 күн бұрын
Yes the 9000 Ryzen WILL be SAVED after a year of Windows, Chipset Drivers, and Bios updates just like every other Ryzen Launch.
@Malinkadink
Ай бұрын
I'm still okay on a 12700k and ddr4 3200, will wait for 9800x3d and get the lowest latency 6000 kit that is available at the time, currently CL28 is the fastest kit at 6000.
@Clickarn93
28 күн бұрын
Why the lowest latency and not go for 6600mhz?
@Malinkadink
28 күн бұрын
@@Clickarn93 Can Zen 5 reliably hit 2200 in 1:1:1?
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
Ай бұрын
Im currently rocking a 5900x with a 3090. I haven't been a huge gamer over the past couple years but I still like having a nice setup I'm wondering what my next upgrade path should be?
@bigpoint58
Ай бұрын
even a 5080 would do justice.maybe trade power consumption with VRAM but have new DLSS technology and gaming performance overall. But I think I´ll even wait for the super or TI chips. Often times you pay even less after a year and get better VRAM. I use 3080 but the 5080 might have a cheaper alternative after a year with even more VRAM.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What is your budget?
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech
28 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy budget really isn't too much of an issue but, I do want something that puts out good performance without using a whole lot of energy my 3090 bakes me room in the summer
@MrAnimescrazy
28 күн бұрын
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech I will recommend a 4080 super or 4090 build. I will get back to you with a parts list and keep the price resonable. I will do an all white build and if you dont like all white then you can swap the parts for all black. I will ask some questions first. Do you want an all black or all white build? A mid tower or large tower case? Do you have a monitor? Do you 2k or 4k monitor if you dont have one? Ips or oled or VA panel? How many hertz 120 or 144 or 180 or 200+?
@MrAnimescrazy
28 күн бұрын
@Moes_Prep_and_Tech For reference my pc is my profile picture. I went all out with my first all white build with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 g skill cl30 latency 6,000 mhz ram in the white phanteks nv7 case. Your pc parts list is for an all white build but if you want black just swap the parts. The case - lian li o11 vision, motherboard - b650 gigabyte aorus elite ax ice, ssd - gen 4 4 terabyte samsung 990 pro, ram - corsair vengeance rgb 16 x 2 for 32 gigs ddr5 cl30 latency 6,000mhz ( gray ), vertical gpu mount ( optional ) - phanteks vertical gpu mount, 360 aio - phanteks 360d30 glacier, gpu - gigabyte aero oc 4090 24 gigs vram, case fans - phanteks d30 140mm reverse fans ( for the bottom fans ) and 2 normal phanteks d30 120mm, power supply - thermaltake toughpower gf a3 snow 1,050 watt gold rated, strimmer cables ( optional ) - Lian li v2 strimmer cables the 12 + 4 pin and the 24 pin, the cpu - amd 7800x3d ( which is the best for gaming ). The total on Amazon is 3,510 dollars with the optional items and you can use affirm or klarna to pay monthly if you don't want to pay for everything all at once. I can make the 4090 build cheaper with a different case and fans if that is too much.
@kirby0louise
28 күн бұрын
I kinda saw this coming. Ryzen 9000 improved only in IPC (tbf, by a lot in some workloads) and memory controller. Everything else is copy+paste from Zen4. What does that mean? It means performance improvement is essentially 100% application dependent. If your game or app likes the changes AMD made, you will see a big uplift. If it doesn't, you might not see any difference. And reviews reflected this, some (Level1Techs, LTT) were positive, others (HWUB, GN) were not. And what do you know, all of them had hugely different benchmark suites. Personally there were some big gains in code compilation that are very exciting to me. I will upgrade to 9950X3D or it's Intel equivalent once those CPUs hit store shelves
@MarsMan1
Ай бұрын
The CPU should be Plug n Play. I am not going through all the Chit to make an AMD processer work properly.
@johnpaulbacon8320
Ай бұрын
Interesting. Let's see how everything turns out
@AlaskanGamerGuy
3 күн бұрын
If they made a 9950X3D that could take appropriate advantage of the increased cache, then AMD would have a winner on their hands. A lot of enthusiasts - me included - would like an X3D CPU that could actually match the multi-core performance, while delivering the same gaming advantages.
@EmanuelHoogeveen
Ай бұрын
Regarding a potential 9950X3D with 3D V-Cache on both CCDs, it might not actually help as they're already telling reviewers to apply the same core parking thing with the regular 9950X. I personally would have been interested in a chip like that as I do switch between development and gaming workloads, but the core parking thing sounds pretty fiddly at best.
@latlanticcityphil
Ай бұрын
5% uplift is not worth the money for the latest and the greatest I feel that extra money could be use to upgrade other parts of your PC build.
@Jeff.78
Ай бұрын
Jason, recently I saw SkatterBencher undervolt and overclock the 9700X to 5.8Ghz, which seemed to provide quite the uplift in all tasks. In his video, the undervolting seemed to be where the biggest increase in performance was found. It was interesting to see a few mouse clicks brought the cpu to life. That said, the wattage went to 170W+, so I guess it comes down to how you wanna run the cpu. Hopefully AMD can get things tuned for better performance going forward.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up, I'll check out his video. I'd love for there to be a "fix" for Ryzen 9000!
@justsomegamer2285
Ай бұрын
Using 3080 10gb with 5800x3d on ultrawide monitor and still capable to achieve satisfying results.
@jackkunasaki5044
Ай бұрын
I'll wait to see the pricing for the x3d models, if its more expensive than the 7800x3d, I'm not going to get it.
@robgom777
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about Jason?! Ryzen 9000 series is already a bust for us gamers (ok for productivity). We MIGHT get lucky with 1 or maybe 2 good X3d variants but thats it. I feel they used this series as a test bed on the new cpu infrastructure to improve on its weaknesses for the next series after. Lets see where this goes.
@Bass.Player
Ай бұрын
"Buy now or later" has been going on for 20 years..
@Dexion845
Ай бұрын
Why should the 9800X3D be faster? Clocks are likely to be the same. It's probably going to be a total wash. AMD had better done something unique or else there's no reason to buy.
@Mr11ESSE111
Ай бұрын
zen5 vs zen4 "improvements in performance"are basically same as 14th gen vs 13th gen from Intel and that means basically none or minor but prices are pretty overhyped for "newer" gens
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
We hate to see it
@DutyGeezer
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your content today. You hit on two points that I’m dealing with right now. You validated my 4090 purchase😊 number one. And gave me something to think about with respect to 7800x3d vs 9800x3d. You also nudged me to do a little more research on X870 boards since one way or another I’m going to be on AM5 sooner rather than later. ‘Preciatecha Jason!
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
So happy to help and congrats on the 4090!
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are the rest of your specs?
@DutyGeezer
28 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy AM4 5950x, 32gb DDR 4
@MrAnimescrazy
28 күн бұрын
@DutyGeezer nice and You can wait for the 9800x3d results but I have a feeling the bump in performance from the 7800x3d will either be not worth it or ok.
@DutyGeezer
28 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy price will be the deciding factor at that point and if its a small bump why should I wait. Nothing gets cheaper except the last best thing.
@jimashby43
Ай бұрын
Marketing...shoot me now... It might be best to just wait a week every time there is a new release until the reviews come along. Who would know about the Ram if you didn't say something. Thanks Jason.
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Jim! Hope you are having a great weekend
@harrycee656
8 күн бұрын
AMD isnt the only ones that scalp the early adapters that can't wait. Let them find the remaining bugs and then make it a value leader. Its smart IMO.
@ShadowAngelS2K
15 күн бұрын
I expect the 9800X3D to launch at 500-600usd. AMD should sell it close to 500usd imo, I do expect the 7800X3D to rise in price again when it drops. So for $100+ more you can get the 9800X3D, it would be very tempting then
@orion9k
Ай бұрын
They currently run on low wattage tho, this gives potential for performance increase from OC also good potential for micro/itx setups with lower heat output.
@goodman7097
29 күн бұрын
Great advice on GPU waiting versus not waiting. I bought a 7900 XT Red Devil about 6 months ago and the pure enjoyment that I have had versus the 30 bucks or so I might have saved (if you can even find that card now) was not worth it. 😁 But I probably should of held out for the Ryzen 4070
@genitusritus
28 күн бұрын
Just wait for 9800x3d and let some months, updates, pricecuts happen. Maybe mid 25 will fit
@penteractgaming
Ай бұрын
It bugs me that the 7800x3d is probably what im going to have to go with given that the 9k series looks like a waste
@ethancbaker2002
29 күн бұрын
I mean you can always wait if you are that disappointed. And see the 9000 series for yourself but waiting is time wasted unless you can get yourself a deal
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
The 7800x3d should be more then enough for gaming stock then if you want to improve performance I'm sure there are videos on youtube on how to overclock and undervolt the 7800x3d.
@dieglhix
7 күн бұрын
5800x3d owner here. seems I will wait until 100% perf increase in new cpu before system migration... the 5800x3d is just too good
@o_oyash
Ай бұрын
My mistake was not buying the 7800x3d when it was $289 on Amazon for like 1 or 2 days lol
@SpoonHurler
Ай бұрын
AMD Marketing has to be punching the air looking at Intel making sales while rarely cutting price, NVidia setting their prices as highas possible and adding a few bucks more but they are constantly cutting prices. I agree that its not great for brand recognition when you are the company cutting prices, especially on your premium products.
@CaLiKiLLa01
Ай бұрын
I went the tested and proven option of the 7800x3d and a 4080 super combo. Could have got a 4090 but connectors were burning. Not a fan of testing a product right after launch. That’s what this Channel is for.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Nice high end build.
@brandonpayne1207
Ай бұрын
I don't expect the 9800x3d to be anything to write home about. It will be better than the 7800x3d but by that same margins the other 9000 series chips. I think the next products people will get excited about are the 7600x3d and 7700x3d chips cause you know and are releasing them based on the am4 releases.
@Typheriaa
Ай бұрын
I swear they just released 9000 prematurely and left it to the youtube tech world to fix it
@gntan83
Ай бұрын
AMD's marketing department needs to take a good, hard look at itself. :/
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@longaugust
29 күн бұрын
How the "gaming processor" team released a chip 1% better at gaming than their previous lineup and priced it 20% higher is beyond me. This company does the right things when it comes to delivering efficient, fast gaming processors. But their marketing team needs to be fired from top-down because this thing is for content creators maybe, but content creators are already running Intels.....
@wallacengineering8096
29 күн бұрын
100% guaranteed that BIOS updates and bug fixes will improve Ryzen 9000 performance in relation to Ryzen 7000. Several bugs are already confirmed, as you noted: There were issues with reviewer RAM compatibility, discrepancies in performance between one tester to the next using the same test and the same CPU, along with many more discovered anomalies and issues. So with all of that said, the 9800X-3D should have a bigger increase in performance in comparison to the 7800X-3D, because at least a few bugs will be found and fixed, and its a low-power chip so power limits wont be an issue and its a single CCD so no core parking issues either.
@laminak1173
17 күн бұрын
I hope it will be something better than 5% performances improvement. I already have a 7800X3D so I will only change it for a large improvement.
@scepticskeptic1663
Ай бұрын
havent watched video yet but amd promised x3d improvements too not just what comes normally with it
@P5YKOTIK1870
Ай бұрын
I have nitro+ 7900xtx and I'm going to switch to 5090 this year or beginning of next when it drops. I'm very lucky to have a MicroCenter walking distance from my house. I had a 6950xt and it was pretty smooth w/o too many hiccups but my 7900xtx on the other hand is a pretty different story. I have driver timeouts quite frequently and automatic PC resets out of nowhere. Plus the fact that AMD is only releasing budget to I guess mid tier gpu's which i think is a good decision because their top end gpu's need a lot more time to cook
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
I'm very jealous of the MicroCenter within walking distance (;
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yes that is crazy you have a microcenter within walking distance and I am looking forward to the 5090.
@donwanna3906
Ай бұрын
Personally, I really like my Ryzen 4070.
@dr.a.lo.2437
14 күн бұрын
I bought a Ryzen 4070 and I’m NEVER looking back!
@PCBuilderChannel
12 күн бұрын
The holy grail of GPUs
@zackw4941
Ай бұрын
The only hope I see right now, is that MAYBE the 9800X3D will perform better. The only reason see this might be possible, is that 7k and 9k series both seem to held back by the memory controller, from what I've heard. This explains why X3D has such a big uplift on the existing chips. If could be that 9000 cores do in fact have more performance, but are being bottlenecked that much worse. Think of it like you have a 300hp sports car and a 500hp sports car. If they both have all season tires, they are both losing a lot of potential, but the higher power car is hurt more. When you put proper tires on them, the 500hp car will see a bigger leap in performance. But realistically, I think the ball is in Intel's court. If Arrow Lake delivers, AMD won't have an answer. If not, they'll be continuing to sell a lot of 7800X3D, or 9000X3D parts, depending where they set the prices.
@VoldoronGaming
Ай бұрын
Short answer to the question: No. If the 9700X is anything to go by expect the 9800X3D to be no more than 5-10%% faster than the 7800X3D.
@Vexrak
28 күн бұрын
I'm betting the 9800x3D is 10% better than the 7800x3d on average in gaming, it kind of has to be between the max frequency going up from 5ghz to 5.5ghz or near 5.5ghz, combine that with ANY IPC gains and its got to be at least 10% better, maybe 15%
29 күн бұрын
I will be holding on to my 7800X3D with 4090 build for a long time. I may or may not pick up a 5090 but I'm betting the 7800X3D will not bottleneck it.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yup I am keeping my 4090/ 7800x3d build but I am anticipating the 9800x3d and the 5090 to be tested by the tech youtubers to see how much of a jump in performance.
29 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy 10 more frames per second? Right now my build is running my games at 200fps, games like alan wake. I took Jason's advice and swapped out my 7900X for the 7800X3D and my build runs cooler and I'm getting insane performance. I just don't see how things could get better, unless I start editing video.
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
I will have to wait and see from the usual tech youtubers I watch.
@gamebenchmarks9715
29 күн бұрын
I am waiting for AMD to pull a comeback with 9950x3D and 9800x3D in terms of uplift compared to 7000 series, but that's a want, could not be a reality
@6dazza9
13 күн бұрын
AMD themselves said that nothing in the 9000 series was going to out perform the 7800X3D in gaming performance.
@thebiggestoneyouveverhad
29 күн бұрын
Unless I'm missing something, the 7800x3d still seems like the chip to beat and, it's still dropping in price...
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
Yup
@ibrahimturan28
Ай бұрын
I say keep what we have or buy it today what's on market. no need to wait for 1 year
@haikopaiko
Ай бұрын
Just installed my 7800x3d last night, went great, even with my old AIO 👍
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are your pc specs?
@PCBuilderChannel
25 күн бұрын
Congratulations on the upgrade! Enjoy it :))
@demex11
Ай бұрын
the best tech channel i made pc from your videos
@PCBuilderChannel
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for supporting the channel! We truly appreciate it (:
@MrAnimescrazy
29 күн бұрын
What are your pc parts?
@demex11
23 күн бұрын
@@MrAnimescrazy 7800x3d + 7900xt
@Mr.GameCrazy
Ай бұрын
Personally, I don't think the 9800X3D is gonna be much better than the 7800X3D, but I hope it has a bigger improvement in gaming.
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