Over the last 8 years I've owned a 1.0 Shield, 2.0 Shield, Shield Plus, and Optics Ready Shield Plus. Never have I seen a Shield malfunction. They are rock-solid dependable, and more controllable and better grip than the other micro 9's like my P365 XL or Hellcat. So I'm sticking with them.
@Joe-lk6oc
Жыл бұрын
My Shield Plus shoots fantastic and has been 100% reliable. I am able to fully load my mags.I absolutely LOVE mine!
@slvalive
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting one...but all the reviews I saw were over two years ago...I was looking for something more current ...hows the reliability? Any misfeed issues?
@ecgrillz2045
Жыл бұрын
I have one and reliability is on par with Glock guns. Also in my own experience it shoot softer than all the other micro guns, shoots almost as a full size G19 gun@@slvalive
@boblaws9851
Жыл бұрын
@@slvalive Failures of any sort are practically unheard of with the Shield. That goes for the 1.0, 2.0 and the Plus. They just work.
@zanegardner6488
Жыл бұрын
Shield Plus has the best trigger from the factory for any M&P series..... but okay
@triggerman1092
Жыл бұрын
He never complains about shooting left with other guns like he does this one. It looked to me like he wanted to hate it. I have carried many pistols over the years and this one is in the top 3
@zanegardner6488
Жыл бұрын
@@triggerman1092 yeah i really dont know how someone could say something bad about the Plus's trigger but not anything about every other terrible M&P trigger
@tedcavanaugh8660
Жыл бұрын
Three inch barrel is gonna be snappy
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
You must have missed the tabletop video
@RayRayWasAGoodBoy
Жыл бұрын
This guys a poser, can’t close slide lock on new gun, shooting left, and just the general terminology used is a dead giveaway. Nice beard tho 😂
@OGsDangerShow
Жыл бұрын
Good, honest review, sir. I like watching videos on pistols I already own.. it keeps me from buying a bunch of new stuff! I love my Shields and especially my Shield Plus. It’s been my hot-weather / deep-concealment option for a few years now. Stay safe up there. 🤟😎
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Thank you (responding from Vienna, Austria on our way back home from visiting Grand Power in Slovakia!)
@jennifernichols9468
Жыл бұрын
OG, gonna have to figure out how to make a shotgun round out of a shields barrel and blast that into the gummie lol
@almaadams3631
Жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns Soooo, not impressed after shooting the Q1S? After watching a few of your videos; I think it will be my next pistol purchase.
@teags603
Жыл бұрын
Had the original shield years ago. Also have had a bunch of other micro compacts, but I picked up a shield plus a few months ago. I can’t get past how good the shield feels and shoots. It’s plain but it just works for me.
@williamhoppe4500
Жыл бұрын
The trigger on mine is excellent and predictable. Very pleased with mine after 1000 plus rounds.
@trentroberdeau1462
Жыл бұрын
I think the shield plus is the best all-arounder in its class, love the trigger. Great buy for 400$…
@trentroberdeau1462
Жыл бұрын
Btw… I have had zero problems fully loading mags. Lol
@zovaynezovanyari5442
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your good, honest review. I went through quite a few small 9mm's before I finally stayed with my shield plus. So far no reliability problem at all. Trigger is good for me. I only put 12 in the extended mag but it will hold all 13.
@Sirgromulus
Жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Perhaps the only review that was negative re. the trigger and recoil impulse. I love my Dig P365. P375X, and Hellcat Pro but must admit my Shield Plus has the best trigger. Different strokes for different folks. Thanks for the review!
@curtishoward9013
3 ай бұрын
I purchased the M&P shield plus a month ago as my daily carry. I'm retired law enforcement which makes me CCW legal in California. I'm working on gripping the weapon properly to correct the rounds from all hitting left. I'm getting a little batter with practice. My earlier weapon was the Ruger LC-9 with the laser pointer, I carried what weapon for the past 10 years. 😋
@backcountryoverland103
Жыл бұрын
Since you asked at the end why did we get it and what do we think about it, here are my answers. 1) Why I got it: I got the Glock 43 when it came out to be a backup. 6 + 1 was fine at the time for that purpose. My g27 was a sometimes backup and my CCW. As mag extensions came out for the 43 that became my primary CCW. I had shot the original shield when it came out and liked it. But wasnt going to purchace it for the one extra round. Fast forward to now and the evolution of the 9mm CCW options and their better capacities, the g43 was becoming outdated. I liked the options of the small 9's having standard capacities exceeding 10. I held back for awhile as the competion rushed to outdo each other till a month ago. After reviews, handling, and researching ( a new option for the plus beating the competitors).... I picked up the Shield Plus Performance Center ported model. 10 or 13 +1...... And now the 15 round mag of the equalizer that fits it ( which is stamped shield plus on the base plate). To me that changed the game. 2) What do i think about it? : I have not found any of the trigger issues you were experiencing an addressing. The trigger in mine works perfectly and smoothly. I did not like the factory fiber optic sites, possibly because all of the pistols I carry I put the same sites on, the XS sites. Since these are defensive tools for me I like the fast acquisition of that big front site, and having the same site picture from pistol to pistol they are just second nature. I shoot the shield plus as well as my g43 gen 1. And with the magazine capacity options, That modernized my ccw carry option of the micro 9, to current day standards if not better. For the defensive purposes it will serve I find it to shoot great, accurate, the trigger is way better than my g43, and the capacity options are much improved as well. I am new to having porting on a barrel, but it does seem to help a little with the muzzle flip on a 3.1 in barrel 9mm. I found no negative aspects some talk about other than a little more cleaning to do after a range session. I did like the other choices out there. But this model of the plus and that 15 round magazine option caught my attention. So after 500 rounds or so, sights I like, and working with the 3 magazines, I totally enjoy this CCW as a great EDC and it meets my needs for those purposes. And of course when the situation is permissible and practical or warranted, like most of you I will carry a larger frame. Stay safe !
@SB-mw1bg
Жыл бұрын
I think the best thing about the Shield is that it's reliable with most every kind of ammo. I added a pinky extension base plate on my 10 round magazine and it helped with controllability.
@secretsquirrelflyfishing
Жыл бұрын
To fully load the mag you must bevel the inside of the follower where the spring sits as it compresses. The geometry of the lip on the bottom of the inside of the follower has a sharp angle/edge and causes spring to hang up as it enters
@sooners2win
Жыл бұрын
Just use uplula, I’ve not trimmed anything
@TADDs101
11 ай бұрын
@@sooners2win agree! I use UpLula and have no issues loading the mags full
@GeraldDeGarmo
Жыл бұрын
Mr Baates, I appreciate all of your videos and real world practicality when performing your reviews. So Thanks to you and Teya. Side note, I only stumbled on this video from the tabletop review and it says its unlisted. I tried searching for it on your page and it didnt come up. Not sure what "unlisted" means, but thought you should know.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching out. An "unlisted" video is one that I haven't published yet. New videos go first to our Patrons, then into articles and as a card (easter egg) in existing videos, then lastly I release them for the general audience. You found an easter egg! Typically our videos are uploaded days to months before they are public.
@rsl82568
Жыл бұрын
I Bought a S&W 9mm Shield plus for $399.99 new. I also have a S&W 9mm Shield. After upgrading the trigger it shoots as good as my Shield Plus. I am keeping both.
@dwaynechristensen6449
Жыл бұрын
You need to check your gun. Closer Sir. Different trigger. In the Plus. Much better than old Shield. I think somebody had a Preconceived idea. About the gun. Going into this Review. It shows . JS
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
I mentioned the trigger in the tabletop. I was referring to the feel of the pull, and referring to previous experience with a different Shield Plus of the same model
@snoopywl8880
Жыл бұрын
Better than the old trigger? Yes but that doesn't mean it's a great trigger. I have a shield plus and I like my sig more
@Pilotlon46
Жыл бұрын
Always love your honest reviews. This was no exception. Sack's Garage has a video on the mag capacity issue. As noted by an earlier poster, the spring doesn't quite seat completely in the bottom of the follower, causing the last round or two to be impossible to load. I've had no problem with my mags, but I still use a loader on that 13th round, just to save my 77 year old thumb from abuse. Had a Gen-1 Shield that I traded for the Plus, and although the Gen-1 trigger didn't bother me, it was just a little bit gritty and unpredictable. My experience with the Plus trigger is different. No grit or mush, stageable right to the wall, and a crisp break, same place every time, with a solid reset. I love it. But, then, I don't have your experience, either, and I'm sure there must be better out there. But, for me, I've found that the Plus fits my hand better than the Gen-1, has better texturing, has a more controllable recoil impulse, and with solid accuracy, and was, most importantly for this retiree, affordable. Just checked my spreadsheet, and I have 535 actual rounds through the Plus, with zero issues, and multiple brands of ammo, from the cheapest steel, to JHP carry ammo. Absolutely love it, and have added the 15-round Equalizer/Shield Plus mag as backup, giving me 10, 13, and 15 in an easily concealable package. I'll keep this one forever. A terrific review, as always, and I too will be interested to hear Miss Tia's impressions, after also being a Shield-1 carrier.
@John-st5gw
5 ай бұрын
I'm 73 years old. I've had plenty of carry pistols in my time. In fact, I carried a Colt Detective Special for over 20 years. I've carried the Original Glock in the 80's when Gaston Glock first introduced the Glock 19 to the NYC Police Dept. I was a NYC police officer for 20 years. I tried carrying a 1911 after I retired in 1994. But, found it was just too big for my 5' 7" frame. I carried the S&W M&P Compact for a few years. It was a good, reliable firearm. I then went with the M&P Shield 2.0. Hated the trigger. I now carry the Shield Plus. I love the magazine capacity, the trigger is fantastic, the grip is far better that the Compact, that was so grippy that my outer garment would cling to it. And the accuracy is spot on. I've trained myself with red dots. So I have no problems with my aging eyes.
@byronsteez8253
8 ай бұрын
I think guy is putting himself on a pedestal over this pistol for some reason. When he blamed his shot cadence on the gun's timing I found myself annoyed.
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro
Жыл бұрын
Man, for as many people you say who asked about this, its sucks I'm only the 9th like and 6th comment...out of over 120,000 views. Thanks for the time you took to do this by yourself...in the rain. Appreciate you!👍
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. This video isn't published yet and that's why it has few views.
@YouLookinAtMe-Bro
Жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns Oh, well good luck to with that! I really enjoyed the Shooting Impressions video, and the time to took to do that and share it with us. Well done Sir!👍 Be safe brother!🇺🇲👍🇺🇲✌️🇺🇲
@michaelmcmillan2776
Жыл бұрын
Smith & Wesson clearly note that it is a slide lock. Not a slide release
@johnnygunny1
6 ай бұрын
I don’t mind the unpredictable trigger it helps me for my flinching from the recoil 😂😮😅
@timphelan2873
2 ай бұрын
Everything on that gun is hard to use at first. I was told this when I bought mine, and it was accurate. It took using a hard surface to push the last couple rounds into each mag for the first week or so, but keeping them topped off helped loosen the mag spring up to where I can load 13 in the 13, and 10 in the 10 with little issue or special effort. Same with the take down lever. At first, it was overly tight, but doing some reps got it a bit more manageable. Hard to say much about the trigger as I liked it to start, but it think I got used to it as it progressively broke in. Funny enough, mine hit to the left at first as well.
@JackofNothingess
Жыл бұрын
Alright, I gotta ask: Where's Ms Teya? Hope you had a good time in Europe!
@ronolson2024
Жыл бұрын
Started shooting 5 years ago, shot around 30K plus at the range & in IDPA and ASI competitions. Have several 9mm pistols, and have shot 2 to death. OEM's replace them with new & better replacement pistols. Have the LCP2 380, Kimber Micro 9, P365, P365XL, S&W PC Shield Plus 4" ported barrel, Rugers SR9C & Security 9, 1st Gen CZ P10C replaced with a 2nd Gen P10C, Springfield XDM 4.5", Glock 20 with KKM barrel, Springfield Ronin Elite 10 mm 1911. And of all these pistols, my Shield Plus to me shoots very accurately, & is about as equal to the 10 mm 1911 Ronin Elite with its fantastic trigger. The Shield Plus with its ported 4" barrel has low recoil, coupled with the fiber optic sights and PC crisp trigger is really easy to puts shots on target. Noticeably better than my P365XL & equal to my 2nd Gen P10C. But I pocket carry the P365 because of it being small, lightweight, and fairly accurate for its size, easy to shoot all day, and is reliable as well. Sig hit a home run with this one as the rest of my pistols stay at home.
@michaelkeselman
Жыл бұрын
The trigger on mine is nothing but clean, crisp, and consistent. And it groups pretty-much all ammo equally and accurately. Can hit a torso size target at fifty yards without much effort, such a fantastic weapon. If I ever get another carry gun for some reason I will still never get rid it. The stock night sights are extremely good, too. And never a single malfunction, I run it five hundred plus rounds dry and dirty as shit before cleaning and no hiccups. As for getting those thirteen round mags loaded, call Smith & Wesson and tell them the issue, they will most likely send you new springs. They won't admit that it's a design or manufacturing error, but they should send you those springs free of charge. My 13 rounders were a bitch to load even with a mag loader, now a breeze to load by hand with the new springs and they run flawlessly. A Pearce pinky extension (part#: PG-MPPL) really levels up the 10-round mags and makes them very easy to shoot.
@LilYeshua
Жыл бұрын
The stock trigger had a weak reset . An Apex Tactical trigger kit makes it one sweet gun plus I like the Apex Trigger shoe.
@harrisla123456
Жыл бұрын
I carry an Original Shield Performance Center. My accuracy is about like yours!! ( I am not as strong a shooter as you are. I am older and weaker) I have found My Performance Center Definitively performs better than a regular Shield!! I have Talon grips Granular !! Talon Grips Definitely Make a Difference in reducing my group size. I think a Shield Plus Performance Center (ported Barrel) With Talon Grips would definitely up your opinion on this firearm. Crisper trigger, less muzzle flip and less movement in the hand, left and up. I believe you would be most impressed with this performance. I hope you get to test one of these someday!!. This is just a one person comment!! Not a criticism or your very balanced review. I enjoy your Reviews and place a lot of Creedence in your opinions!! Thanks for your reviews!!
@triggerman1092
Жыл бұрын
The shield is awesome. If somebody doesnt like it then they are the problem. This is the first gun i could tell you didnt want to like
@richb.4374
Жыл бұрын
Love my Shield Plus. One of my favorites in my carry rotation. Everyone is different, I happen to like the trigger on mine.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say I didn't want to like it, but I did start the review with already having experience with the model.
@Broken_Arrow58
Жыл бұрын
The slide release didn't want to release because it was designed to be a slide lock. That's what S&W told me anyway.
@MDR-hn2yz
6 ай бұрын
Yup! I kept saying to myself that “slide release” he keeps talking about is actually a slide lock.
@karathkasun
Жыл бұрын
I got the optics ready version with tritium sights. Irons are not as on target as I would like them to be, but are usable. The slide release I had to exercise through a hundred cycles or so before it really became usable. The mags are an absolute bear to load when new, but they do get better over time. Mainly got it for size and the fact that it was known as being solidly reliable as a CCW. Plus it came in a bundle with 5 mags/optics ready/trit sights for the price of some other options I was looking at with only 2 mags and no other features included.
@kickadams8908ass
11 ай бұрын
I have a shield 2.0. that I carry in the summer, I changed out the trigger. added night sites. upgraded the springs in each magazine to give me plus one. Put an aluminum pinky extension on the 7 / now 8 round mag.. I carry the Shield & the backup mag with confidence Because that's a total of 17 rounds out of a carry gun that I shoot very well.
@PolishX
Жыл бұрын
For me the Shield Plus I have is the performance center gun so its ported with the fiber optic sights. I always use the extended mag all the time. The trigger is better that the older S&W M&P's Ive used at least. I use it over the Sig P365 which I thought was total garbage because it broke after 6 rounds. I appreciate your honest review. I chose it because it was far better for me that the P365 which we had owned a while before buying it. To me I didn't have any CCW aside from a 1990's era Sig P225 so something smaller with more rounds was nicer for me. The trigger issue I never noticed but I don't think I pay that much attention to it to be honest.
@adventurfly879
Жыл бұрын
I'm saying this before watching. I bet this makes it through the "what's for dinner" flawlessly. These things run everything...... Edit: I'd love to see you get an FN Reflex and test it. I'm considering buying one but I'll wait for your review.
@kevbiker3982
Жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed you didn’t love it. I do very well with it. If you train with it, you fall in love with it. The grip is made for us guys. And as you showed, it does not fail.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
We all have different tastes and hands. Fortunately there are many options to chose from.
@Osmonic74
4 ай бұрын
I just put the first 50 rounds through my Shield Plus and I have found that I actually prefer the Shield 2.0 for comfort and accuracy. I am not sure if it is the sights on the Shield Plus but I struggled to put shots on target today when on previous outings with the Shield 2.0 I had incredible accuracy. I am going to put another 50 rounds through the Plus and see if I can get some better groupings but I may actually move back to the 2.0 for my EDC if the accuracy does not improve. Thanks for your review and information.
@NicoEl119
Жыл бұрын
Can we get a Mete MC9 Vs M&P Shield Plus Vs Glock 43x video from you please? 🙏 😊 love your reviews b.t.w.❤
@guardianminifarm8005
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the demo & data. I have to agree. That anomaly with the 357 might cause a pause and consider with the 1370s fps. A fellow might put a couple more over chrono to confirm that velocity. But I have seen 158 handloads exceed 1500with 8 3/8 barrels. So it is feasible. Thank you.
@mmafanatic-tz5or
Жыл бұрын
Love my shield plus. You were probably shooting left because the shield plus has a very skinny grip and you have a large hands. I have very big hands and I put a hogue grip on it and that fixed the issue. Now i can grip it comfortably. Its very accurate, reliable and the trigger is 💋
@1911bg
Жыл бұрын
My Shield Plus Trigger is not like yours at all. And also I have no problem getting 13 rounds in the magazine.
@joes9288
Жыл бұрын
Hey Graham another informative video, great job. I wanted to throw my two cents in on the micro compact trend. I carry a Ruger LCP Max in the summer. Twelve round extended mag and a spare in one of those Neo Mag pocket clips. It’s a perfect pocket gun, but I also have large hands so I had to adjust my shooting style. I found that I had better practical accuracy one handed. I was pulling low left with a two hand grip, but I trained long enough one handed to get descent self defense groups. I’m sure you’ll agree that you will sacrifice some benefits to gain others. In my case I wanted a comfortable summer carry but I lost velocity and had to adjust my technique. You gotta train with what you got. Also the Maybeline joke got me pretty good 😂. Thanks dude!
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Good points about changing shooting method. Also glad to hear someone else was haunted by those "maybe it's" commercials a decade or three ago.
@KevinAnderson-yk3fx
Жыл бұрын
I’ve watched tons of reviews on this gun and your review is the first that I heard of someone not liking the trigger. Most say that the plus trigger is a great trigger and better than other S&W triggers. Interesting.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
All I have is my experience with a few hundred pistols to go off of. It may also be that those reviews were early samples sent to reviewers whereas this is a pistol I purchased after the gun had been out for a while.
@jordanfrangquist1474
5 ай бұрын
This guy is finding every reason to say why he doesn’t like it instead of just saying yea I like it even if I said bad things about micro 9s in the past
@GBGuns
5 ай бұрын
Why are you doing that?
@eddiewhite5758
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the second camera. Thumbs up
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Thank our Patrons, they're the ones that made it possible. We're crowd-funded.
@WN_Byers
9 ай бұрын
I have big hands too Graham. I've had to do a lot more continued practice with my shield 40 m2.0 performance center. I have found some success shooting revolver style, with my trigger index finger hanging well over and outside of the trigger guard. I love it for everyday carry, for the same reason I find it difficult to actually shoot. I want to try the plus in 9
@OldManAzeban
Жыл бұрын
Magguts makes possibly the best retro fit extensions on the market. Mags that I’ve swapped the springs over in haven been more reliable than the stock mag springs.
@johnmcgraw-np1xn
10 ай бұрын
What's for dinner was 1000 rounds wt NO FTF or FTE ...No complaints from this owner.
@TravisCyprien
Жыл бұрын
I have my Shield Plus and my full size M&P 2.0 love them both.
@Andriig75
3 ай бұрын
Same here
@macgregordespitethem7933
Жыл бұрын
Get a Maglula to top off the magazine. Plunger the stack until the spring seats and the last two rounds can slide in.
@michaelbrohl1625
6 ай бұрын
Strange. I have not had any issue fully loading my mags and the trigger is the best of just about any micro I have shot. It is also the best recoil control of any micro i have used. To each his own I guess.
@ecgrillz2045
Жыл бұрын
I am really surprised you find the trigger to be an issue with accuracy, many reviews out there including my own experience say the trigger is amazing. I m not sure, it could be subjective to everyone's own experience. I have seen people that say the Hellcat is a great gun, and for me I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it so you never know.
@ronolson2024
Жыл бұрын
P.S. As far as you only getting 11 rounds in the 13 rd. magazine, there is a video out there showing that there is a problem with the spring seating correctly in the mag. I have 3 13 rd. mags and have no problem with any to hold 13 rds. It does take a Uplula loader to get the 13 rd. in. I would not want to be without the Uplula loader for loading any of my magazines whether it be for my P365 or my Glock 20.
@Runningtherace51
4 ай бұрын
S&W is sending replacement mags if you have a defective one.
@Moderndaycowboy74
Жыл бұрын
Just bought the 3.1 performance center last week and I'm pretty happy with it. Also bought the 15 round magazine. I couldn't get more than 12 in the 13 round mag, but the trigger seems to be much better.
@beethao3134
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't get the 13th round in my mag and just went to buy a loader like an uplula and no more worries.
@Moderndaycowboy74
Жыл бұрын
@@beethao3134 I did the same, although I did crush a round trying to fit it in
@neofan99
Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, love the ported barrel 🔥 🔥
@stevenrhoads4984
11 ай бұрын
I have a lot of micro compacts and this is one of my favorites, very reliable and shoots well.
@TxpNoveske
Жыл бұрын
I have the pc 4 inch model with the red dot. It works great and I didnt have any issue with the trigger.
@JohnSmith-ln2ow
11 ай бұрын
Blame the gun because you can't shoot.
@GBGuns
11 ай бұрын
That's cute
@rogerborgmeier3725
Жыл бұрын
Graham- I'm concerned, you seemed to be running out of breath quite a bit. Is everything OK? Perhaps a check-up is in order.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
I've been blessed with asthma in the last year or so. Thank you for your concern.
@davewilson3893
10 ай бұрын
I think you’d feel better if the Shield had some feed issues! Seemed like you’re looking for anything you could negatively find to bash it. It’s reliable, it’s easy to conceal, price point is right and it’s accurate. Trigger? Are you kidding? Nothing wrong with the trigger. Want a great trigger buy a4k Wilson 1911!
@GBGuns
10 ай бұрын
Or a .3k Tisas for a trigger more predictable than this. I'm sorry you feel so offended that I don't like the gun. Were you a part of the design team?
@davewilson3893
10 ай бұрын
@@GBGuns Not offered at all, but just keep it real. I’ve never seen a shield choke, but seen plenty of sig320s have feed issues along with Gaston’s glocks. The trigger is what it is, it’s a 500 dollar gun that is super reliable, because when shit hits the fan that’s what matters the most!
@24grizzy
Жыл бұрын
gotta try the performance center version better trigger n less recoil
@srm158
Жыл бұрын
I just got my Shield Plus (and all my other guns) back from the police within the last 2 months or so. I bought the Plus when it first released, and had reliably put about 500 rounds of steel case and 300 rounds of brass rounds through it before losing it in November 2021, where it sat, uncleaned, for 17 months. It shot 100 rounds just fine before i did the deep cleaning from all the rust, dust, and carbon build up. I love it.
@srm158
Жыл бұрын
Also, funny enough. My model has a fantastic trigger that hits a solid wall that breaks like glass. It's better than my first run Walther PDP.
@Danny19551
6 ай бұрын
I’m on the wire. I’ve watched a lot of videos. Do I get the shield plus or the performance one? Is that much difference other than price?
@wardroland270
Жыл бұрын
Thanks GB. Great job. Good info. God bless. LETS GO BRANDON
@uutube243
Жыл бұрын
I have three shield pluses in different variants. All three have that vague trigger which is exactly what you do NOT want for a self defense pistol. While shooting at the range I have had many double shots because the trigger is undefinable and way to light. Your correct their is no wall so you have no idea when trigger will break. For this reason I will not Carry the shield plus.
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to hear it's not just us finding fluke guns, a possible benefit to a vague trigger is flinch control; you can't flinch if you don't know when it's going to fire!
@trentroberdeau1462
Жыл бұрын
Na, not really
@uutube243
Жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns With adrenaline under stress you need that definite wall or a negligent discharge is bound to happen. And that’s a one way trip to an orange jumpsuit. I’ve accidentally fired a shot unattended while move and shoot training. It’s a rolling trigger with no wall which discharges inconsistently. Disastrous for self defense.
@scottbryant9425
Жыл бұрын
Yesterday I sold my G43x MOS after 4 months of owning it and putting way too much into it. It was a super nice pistol that I shot fairly well considering I'm not a Glock guy. I just couldn't adjust to the grip angle searching for the optic reticle. So off to a new owner it went. After agonizing over the seeming endless options of the small 9s, I ended getting this Shield Plus in 9mm. It was the one I was least interested in until I weighed everything out and felt it in the hand. Strong capacity, great reliability, really comfortable in the hand, excellent trigger, like really excellent in terms of what it is. maybe Graham has a lemon. Cheapish mags, optics ready, strong aftermarket support and at $449 I think it's the best value overall. I put a new Veridian rfx15 green optic on it (very good value) and put 200 rounds through it today. Zero failures, albeit 3 types of 115 range ammo. The speed in which the gun broke in was shocking to me. After the first 50 rounds the trigger was already smoothing out and the slide was loosening up nicely. Also when I bring the gun up, the optic is right there where it should be. I will say, I have big hands, and it's a bit less to hold onto than the Glock, or a Hellcat pro, but with a little training it will be fine. I was shooting 2" groups at 7 yds by my third magazine. It's also maybe a tad bit more snappy than the Glock but not as much as the Hellcat or the 365. I've concluded that none of these little guns are really easy or fun to shoot. I do wish it was a 3.5 barrel to help with the snappiness. I think that 99% of the people buying a CCW would be well served to go with the shield, it's small but not too small, it's accurate if you do your part for sure, and at $450 optics ready I think it's probably the best value unless you go the Taurus line.
@douglasstrickland8916
20 күн бұрын
I have one of the originals with the 8 round mags. After 4 months of shooting it exclusively, on my farm and at an indoor range, I became “used” to the trigger break and could group pretty good at up to 30’. I am sure, but will ask anyway, about the new higher capacity mags fitting in my “EARLY “ model. ??? I have been shooting and carrying a SPRINGFIELD ARMORY “HELLCAT PRO” (completely stock from the box) now for about two years and have not looked back. Enjoy your video’s, trust your opinion. THANK YOU for your efforts. “DAY AFTER DAY”👍💪
@Three60Crusader
Жыл бұрын
It’s a very good trigger and is very predictable. The initial kick out is probably just confusing you since you haven’t spent enough time with it and that kick out isn’t the reset but a little passed it. But it’s always consistent in my experience.
@Runningtherace51
4 ай бұрын
Well he's shot "hundreds" of guns so there's nothing under the sun he's not familiar with...
@rickgeorgette9657
2 ай бұрын
Can you please tell me the brand of the spinner target, all I could get was 6" great outdoors spinner target, thanks.
@GBGuns
2 ай бұрын
Titan Great Outdoors, but I don't think they make it anymore.
@tacticalbt1023
Жыл бұрын
For me the trigger is much more improved Vs the hinged design for me I like the feel n break on the shield plus! I shoot it better then my 365 XL!
@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
You are one of my three top favorite firearms KZitem channels. Your education, knowledge, expertise, and experience are so evident. You truly make the best assessments and reviews, and you also offer invaluable information and guidance to us, gun owners. This review about the S&W Shield Plus is a textbook example of the quality of your work. Thank you, GB! 🇺🇸
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
@@GBGuns sincerely!
@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
@@idonot123 some people are gullible and fall for the pretenders. Unfortunately, those pretenders get thousands of followers duped into the shock and awe show for effect.
@michaelbrohl1625
4 ай бұрын
@@v.german11b I like this channel and watch regularly but that doesn't mean I always have to agree with him. For example, I disagree with him on this gun. I also strongly disagree on their Walther PDP reviews. I have no idea how they can say it is flat shooting. To me it is VERY snappy for a gun it's size and I was very disappointed when I took one for a test drive at the range.
@v.german11b
4 ай бұрын
@@michaelbrohl1625 I have zero issues with handling the flipping of the Walther PDP and staying on target. Snappy is in the hands of the beholder. Try putting a tactical flashlight under the barrel. That alone will help to compensate for the "snapineess."
@byronsteez8253
8 ай бұрын
Is it a slide release or a slide lock?
@GBGuns
8 ай бұрын
It depends on what you're using it as.
@Runningtherace51
4 ай бұрын
@@GBGunsYou're apparently using it wrong.
@scottbryant9425
Жыл бұрын
Oh on the mags , I loaded 12 into mine and let it sit overnight, and then I was able to stuff 13 into with a lulu loader.
@J.R.F.23
Жыл бұрын
My Shield Plus Optics Ready has a very good predictable trigger. Far better than and other striker fired pistol made by Smith and Wesson.
@tonyn152
Жыл бұрын
Great video. After shooting many different pistols in this sub-compact class and watching many reviews, I ended up recently buying this same Shield Plus as my first CCW gun. In terms of the way it fit my hand, manageable recoil, accuracy, size, trigger and price, I liked it better than the Sig P365, Springfield Hellcat Pro, Glock 43X and Canik MC9 which I shot. I think the trigger is decent, but nowhere near my Walther PDP-F. The issue I have with the gun, is that I brought it home from the store and took it to the range the next day and put about 100 rounds of different ammo through it and it shot great for me; I was very happy with it. The next day I want to take it apart to clean it, I was unable to get the slide off of the gun. I tried everything I could get it off and it would not work (this isn't my first pistol). Took it back to the store where I bought it and they couldn't get the slide off either, and said I had to contact S&W to be fixed. Seriously? I contacted S&W, and they said yes, it needs to be sent back to them, and it will take 8 weeks to be repaired. UGH! So I had to send a brand new gun back to them which I had for less then a week, and now wait 8 weeks for it to be repaired, I am NOT very happy (got about 3 more weeks left to wait). Upon doing internet research, I found a lot of other people who are having this exact same issues with new S&W guns. Now I'm regretting the purchase and wishing I went with the Hellcat Pro, which was probably my second choice. Aside from this stupid issue, I really do like the gun. Thanks again for the great and information.
@75greenfish62
6 ай бұрын
I had the same trouble with the S&W 13 round magazines for my Shield Plus but I figured out that the mag spring was hanging up on the follower. I took them apart and used my pocket knife to shave a little plastic off the lip that was hanging up on the spring and now they all fit 13 rounds, no problem. It's a design flaw and hopefully they fix it on new magazines.
@jeffloflin6316
8 ай бұрын
tested Shield Plus vs Hellcat Pro. Hands down Shield Plus worked better for me. Replaces my Glock 19, for conceal purposes only. The glock is a fantastic gun but certainly like trigger on the Shield better
@tacticalbt1023
Жыл бұрын
I love my shield plus my fav little pistol to carry n it shoots good
@donak2773
4 ай бұрын
For some reason mine also kept grouping to the left. Also my magazine had play and it just drove me nuts. Traded it for a Glock 😊
@darrencaughey111
Жыл бұрын
I carried the first gen shield for a long time and actually used it as a trade in for the plus.The trigger is a definite upgrade from the original and mine especially after break in is good even in comparison to the apex trigger I have on my 2.0 compact( not apex goog) but closer) As for the mags I didn't have any issues loading full 13 rounds outside of normal break in as well. Great gun for sure.
@craigcook1571
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never cared for the m&p triggers
@brucemedley69
4 ай бұрын
Did you try and flip the spring on the 13 round mag? May be backwards causing the mag loaded short.
@iacorrigan4115
Жыл бұрын
I am a big fan. I found a deal too good to pass up. Great for summer carry and more accurate than some bigger options.
@cobia224...
4 ай бұрын
Sorry, for what it is, an excellent gun in that size... trigger is pretty good IMHO
@treydaypnw
3 ай бұрын
The S&W M&P Shield Plus is an Excellent EDC pistol. I love shooting it!
@johnmcghee36
10 ай бұрын
I use a loader on the magazines and can easily get all 13 rounds in all 4 of magazines. I’m old so I gotta use one.
@kirbybruc
5 ай бұрын
I owned two of the original S&W Shield and both sights were off and had to be adjusted.
@wizardofahhhs759
10 ай бұрын
You are NOT gonna get this gun to malfunction it ain't gonna happen.
@slvalive
Жыл бұрын
I'm hitting to the left....darn...I only blew half his chest and shoulder off instead of the whole chest....
@ratagris21
Жыл бұрын
Great review, but the trigger, and the mags can be a QC concern. The sights probably are slightly off. Either way can be improved, and then reevaluated. ♠️🎩🎱🎯🇺🇲🏁🇺🇦🌻🏵️🌼💮🏴☠️🏹
@keithkent8126
Жыл бұрын
Graham after shooting the pistol did notice any frame pin walk? thanks K
@GBGuns
Жыл бұрын
I haven't noticed, but also haven't looked at the gun since I shot it. When I take the photos for the article I'll take note.
@iacorrigan4115
Жыл бұрын
I did
@ernieirwin252
4 ай бұрын
You are the only guy I've watched give a review on the shield plus that did not like the trigger, to each they're own
@GBGuns
4 ай бұрын
Yup, we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is based on having reviewed more than 400 handguns and spent more than 50 days in serious training courses.
@guardianminifarm8005
Жыл бұрын
I am a bit biased toward S&W. I have been purchasing Smith firearms since 1985 with a Mod. 29 and a # of N frame Smiths to follow the next few years. Our family has had a good # of M&P offerings including Shields. My daughter replaced her Shield 45 with a Ruger Max9 over the Shield Plus. She almost bought the P365 but again chose the Max9 over it also. No regrets. But there are still a plenty of M&P edc in the family. Thank you.
@farhan.naushad
Жыл бұрын
There are some shield plus mags that you cannot load more than 10 or 11 rounds. Buy shield plus mags from another seller and you’ll be able to load it all the way. It’s a hit or miss. I think S&W did miss some QC steps for mag springs. Same with the slide release too or probably the follower design of the mags.
@csyalx
Жыл бұрын
the trigger to me is just “noticeable” while shooting, it’s definitely not “mushy”, id say it breaks like glass, you dont really know when its gonna pop but if you pull consistently on the trigger it will go bang everytime and to me that’s enough for edc, however glock is the best pistol hands down.
@Chris_the_Dingo
Жыл бұрын
I really like mine, shoot it well, comfortable to carry, etc. That said, I think they should've just gone with a 12 round extended magazine. I can load 13 in mine (barely), but it's a real bear to seat it and rack the slide.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
Жыл бұрын
I like the brand . but the frame size is just not big enough , seems to be a great shooter though ..👍👍
@jjung2005
11 ай бұрын
Mine does not have texture finish on frame, more of smooth finish.... why??
@tyron8824
11 ай бұрын
By my acknowledge of it the smooth finish was the first generation of the shield plus the second come with that texture frame its better to me
@bobups2031
Жыл бұрын
It’s a nice 9mm gun and I spend more thousand rounds,but lately ,I use 13 round mags,sometimes about six shoots I pulled the trigger,not even touching the wall ,it’s goes off,I don’t know ,the same as my 40 mm,probably it’s my fault ,that’s why I got the Hellcat Pro now.
@dougdoris8622
7 ай бұрын
I just came across this video and thought you do excellent testing and I appreciate your hard work. My experience has been terrific with the Shield Plus. For a five hundred dollar gun with the reliability and accuracy as well as 15 rounds is simply incredible. I use to carry a Ruger LCP2 due to small size and going up in size to the Shield Plus is a game changer. I have found the trigger to be fine.
@toneyholcombe7088
Жыл бұрын
Capitalism, science and engineering will eventually bring us something better but on June 2, 2023 it is cc perfection - for my preferences. It beats every micro. If it didn't exist I would probably carry my G26.
@christostefan
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if your issue with the trigger is you size. I'm extra medium all over, even my hands. And it seems awkward and sticky getting my finger placed smoothly. Maybe the length of pull. It's possible your size is creating different leverage on the trigger, depending on where this thing's fulcrum is. I'm not good enough to feel the reset, from a lifetime of j frames.
@johnlacasse8893
Жыл бұрын
I found the shield plus to be the "softest" shooting micro 9, except for the X-macro. I found the hellcat, 365, mete MC9, G43x/48 and G4X all very "snappy" by comparison. I also found the shield plus to be the best value as I could buy 2 for the price of one SIG and or 1 plus several boxes of ammo over the hellcat and G43x. Although the Taurus and mc9 are favorably priced, neither is very comfortable in my hand, with the Taurus actually a more accurate shooter for me over the MC9. I need to shoot a Ruger max 9 just because I haven't, although I did shoot an EC9S, which I also found to be snappy, but still rate it ahead of several others. I am planning to shoot the MC9 more to see if it grows on me, because I really like the full size Caniks. I don't like the feel of the Elite, SC or MC, in my hand, even with the extended magazine, they just feel off, to me. Hellcat Pro feels the best, if the recoil was more manageable, I would probably shoot it more, but... Shield Plus with equalizer 15 rd mags, if I have to carry a 9 mm.
@MCAS2177
11 ай бұрын
I started out with a Smith & Wesson M .20 right out of the box. I was shooting very well and that was with a hinged trigger but I wanted the shield plus because of more rounds not for the trigger. But let me tell you the gun shot just fine, no issues with the trigger so both guns I can shoot just fine and I am not a competition shooter. I could not hit anything with a Glock but with this gun I shot very well I don’t have real big hands like you do but it seems to me like, the shield plus has a very good handle for my hand and I am able to shoot it very well. I also went with the plus I mounted an optic on it and it still shoots excellent this is just my opinion, but what I think a lot of different people miss sometimes is that everybody has different hand sizes and maybe the shield just isn’t gonna work for them, but it works for me and ultimately at the end it’s to defend my life and whatever gun anyone chooses to defend your life. It’s a crazy world now everybody stay safe.
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