Your approach to this demonstration is top notch. Thank you for posting this information, it is invaluable.
@cmine615
7 жыл бұрын
Where I live it is illegal to dispose of any lithium battery in the trash, discharged or not. They're recyclable and toxic to the environment, so recycling is being promoted heavily.
@3stans936
7 жыл бұрын
cmine615 And it could cause a garbage truck to catch on fire, or a house!
@PatRiot-
7 жыл бұрын
Many people like the idea of "going green" But are not willing to do the first thing to achieve that.... Lol
@hempelcx
4 жыл бұрын
They are not toxic to the environment
@CarbonGlassMan
4 жыл бұрын
@@PatRiot- Going green. Buying plastic and foam and lipo batteries and charging them with electricity over and over for fun. I think if someone wants to "go green" they'd pick up a hobby that involved making forts out of dead twigs they find on the ground and tying them together with dead vines.
@Itsp3rsonal
8 жыл бұрын
Much easier and safer to just take to a proper recycling center. Tho the village idiot system is almost entertaining
@TaiViinikka
7 жыл бұрын
We Canadians have grown used to our governments actually offering services like hazardous materials recycling. Craziness, I know.
@MM-rr5si
8 жыл бұрын
Wow so much for "safely" Disposing the lipo but it was so much fun to watch!
@ejs6097
7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for doing this! With all the misinformation on the net, it is nice to see the proof right here.
@x4mmm
10 жыл бұрын
Best video of this type. Great commentary and details, great video/audio quality.
10 жыл бұрын
When a lipo pack is "dead" for RC, it still has a lot of life for other, less than 1C, applications! Radios, torches, RC transmitters, whatever doesn't eat 50C. Reduce, Reuse, RECYCLE!
@AidanGieg
9 жыл бұрын
Pașca Alexandru "Whatever doesn't eat 50C" For some reason I laughed when I saw that. Seriously though, if a LiPo is damaged like his were (puffed) they are unsafe and should be regarded as garbage.
9 жыл бұрын
EPaR - Aidan Gieg Puffed means that it had accumulated gaseous hydrogen generated thru electrolisys. The plastic jacket can be punctured, with much grater care and consideration than in this video, using a sharp needle to create a tiny vent hole. Obviously, the electrodes must not be touched by the needle, in any way. I poke it at a sharp angle, letting the needle enter less than twice the thickness of the outer jacket. Immediately after the gas was evacuated, the puncture must be sealed to prevent air and moisture from entering the cell. I had great success with plain insulating adhesive tape. Basically, everything most people call garbage is anything but. Most thing we discard are reusable, recyclable or recoverable. I own rechargeable batteries manufactured in 1954 that store 80-90% of the rated capacity. So, as long as the electrodes themselves are not disintegrated or shorted out, as it usually happens in 18650 and small, tightly packed phone cells, the cell is, most probably, usable.
@AidanGieg
9 жыл бұрын
If it has puffed it is still damaged and should not be used. A LiPo cell shouldn't output enough gas in its lifetime to cause noticeable puffing.
@AidanGieg
9 жыл бұрын
And it is not through electrolysis. It is via the degradation of the electrodes due to damage or very very very old age.
9 жыл бұрын
EPaR - Aidan Gieg I'll qoute wikipedia in here so you don't have to take my word for it: ~All Li-ion cells expand at high levels of state of charge (SOC) or over-charge, due to slight vaporisation of the electrolyte. This may result in delamination, and thus bad contact of the internal layers of the cell, which in turn brings diminished reliability and overall cycle life of the cell.[11] This is very noticeable for LiPos, which can visibly inflate due to lack of a hard case to contain their expansion. ~ And, kinda yes, it'd not _only_ electrolysis, it is, also, evaporation. None of the electrodes contain hydrogen. (LiMn2O4, Cu, C, Al. No H) :)
@eddiscus
10 жыл бұрын
Although not mentioned in the video I totally agree with recycling of batteries. I remember in NYC they had a big push to bring in all your alkaline batteries. They were so overwhelmed that they then announced the manufactures are no longer using mercury in their process. It is now ok to throw them in the regular trash. The puncturing of the battery was done to demonstrate the energy left from the Salt water bath and to confirm for the video that when properly discharged there is no energy left. I do not recommend the puncturing of the pack for disposal. I don't know about the staples and Radio Shacks in other areas but by me if you walk in with a 6S 5000mah battery they get real nervous. The recycling statute say's they only need to take back what they sell.
@Albanus35
8 жыл бұрын
+Ed Johnson Here in Brazil there's specific places where you can recycle batteries with no need to discharge it. (They'll do).
@samnr2723
8 жыл бұрын
What did you do with your tools when you were done making this video?
@blackbird1234100
7 жыл бұрын
just drop in the bin at Lowes or home depot.
@hunter00047
9 жыл бұрын
In the UK we do not have to go to all this time wasting, we chuck them in a battery recycling box in all supermarkets.
@jonathanoxlade4252
9 жыл бұрын
Electric power is toxic pick your poison gas or electric power lipo smoke is cancer worse than leaded petrol
@TaiViinikka
7 жыл бұрын
You know, that might actually be true, but if it is, I don't care. You're comparing a LiPO in catastrophic failure mode with a bus operating exactly the way it's intended to, 365d/Y for a lifetime of maybe 20 years. They aren't the same at all. Electric power isn't toxic.
@eddiscus
7 жыл бұрын
So you would not have any problem with tossing a fully charged slightly damaged 6S 5000mah pack in the recycle box?
@hunter00047
7 жыл бұрын
Well Ed I would keep it if only slightly damaged, Supermakets will have carried out a heath and safety audit.
@motojen2276
7 жыл бұрын
Just put some electrical tape over the exposed battery terminals and drop it off at a recycling centre, it's not difficult and it doesn't involve hours of discharging and hammering a nail through a potentially volatile battery. Or as I like to tell myself: keep it simple, stupid :)
@silberkondorin
7 жыл бұрын
very instructive didnt know how dangerous these batteries were, I safely discharged my lipo thru resistors
@AmericanBulldogRocky
8 жыл бұрын
I have always found the best way is to charge them fully and leave them on top of a railway track
@jonathanoxlade4252
7 жыл бұрын
or make a pipe bomb with it lol
@tankloverrc1344
6 жыл бұрын
I shoot them with a pellet/bb gun >:)
@sanashams322
3 жыл бұрын
Lol train wouldn’t have much change
@gravelydon7072
2 жыл бұрын
You'd find it much better to tape them to a coupler to see if they can pass an impact test.* * Warning!!!!!!!!!! Leave that to professionals. Timex watches take a licking but don't keep on ticking.
@carloliveras5920
3 жыл бұрын
Thank for taking the time to bronchitis safety message it was informative and nicely done!
@dougvestal7011
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very scientifically and objectively done.
@OkiFPV
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was nervous doing this the first time but I found your advice to discharge/puncture was quite simple & non-reactive :-) I used a car headlight to discharge a 3S lipo down to 0.1v, stripped & twisted the leads together. Left overnight & then punctured with a nail. In my case I used a 55W bulb but i think this will discharge very quickly (15 mins) & its better to use something with lower wattage.
@eddiscus
7 жыл бұрын
Puncturing with a nail is unnecessary. It was just done in the video just to show the reactive pack from the saltwater bath vs the properly discharged pack. Once you discharge and confirm the voltage or lack of with a voltmeter then the pack is ok for recycling or what ever your local regulations are.
@you238
9 жыл бұрын
Cheapest way to discharge them that I'd think of would be to put a 220-1k resistor across each cell (solder them to the balance leads, or hell, just jam them in the balance port). If you do any electronics stuff you probably have a bag of them lying around: each is maybe a cent. A 220 ohm resistor across a LiPo cell will pull about 16 mA; small, but nothing is corroding like in salt water so you don't have to worry about incomplete discharge due to terminals rusting off.
@MattacksRC
9 жыл бұрын
good video. This is a topic that gets overlooked too much.
@cloudsplitter24
12 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for doing this test! It would be interesting to see what the relative voltage is over time in a salt water bath - e.g. cell voltage per day of immersion.
@matheusmartino7747
8 жыл бұрын
In Brazil disposal of batteries in the trash is forbidden! Here all cell phone service centers and some electronic hardware stores have bins where we deposit our old batteries.
@cybertrot
10 жыл бұрын
Glad you did this video. Thanks for it. Always did resistive method anyways as its faster and less messy.
@ralph17p
10 жыл бұрын
I'm sure LiPos shouldn't go into regular trash, discharged or not. They contain some fairly toxic chemicals that can leach out into groundwater. It's much preferable that they get recycled properly if at all possible.
@friskle1238
10 жыл бұрын
Actually, they are biodegradable.
@nathandean1687
10 жыл бұрын
Friskle123 depending on how they were made in the first place. lipos type 1 forget it. type 4 yes just bring to your local hazmat collection site.
@AlecBaldwin5816
8 жыл бұрын
i put all my fully charged batteries and full propane tanks into the ocean
@professionalbluebiker
4 жыл бұрын
Nice, screw the turtles... Calm down Karen it is just a joke...
@SkyGamer911
4 жыл бұрын
I had a few "scary" batteries. They was charged fully and i felt it was scary to use. I put them in the trash can along with flammable materials like lighter fluid for grill that wasnt really empty and it probably leaked from the bottle it was half full but i didnt need it anymore. The result? a destroyed garbage truck or at least fun for them to deal with
@rx-robo3405
3 жыл бұрын
Smartass dude
@murraymoss2695
8 жыл бұрын
I really do like your video, its an important safety message. Thank you. But I just want to learn. . Don't lots of these batteries have a voltage drop cutoff circuit internally that would stop the resistive load from discharging them?
@angeldoom4207
3 жыл бұрын
Most rc battery’s rely on the esc and charger for the protective circuit i personally use lectron pro battery’s they are pretty pricy but not a single one has cough fire and had them for coming up to 4 years
@Jereisalem
7 жыл бұрын
NEVER throw batteries of ANY kind into regular trash!! Telling people to do this absolutely irresponsible!
@PatRiot-
7 жыл бұрын
The danger of the batteries after being discharged, destabilized, and bathed in saltwater.... is next to nothing Even puncturing these with a nail after discharging was not enough to start a fire or even explode Maybe if you live 50 miles from the nearest recycle plant or turn in location This video might be something to consider
@xenonram
7 жыл бұрын
rawk4life93 Bull shit. if that first pack he punctured was around flammable material, it would had started a fire. he even said it in the video.
@benp9793
5 жыл бұрын
@@xenonram but it wasn't. So go fuck yourself
@adksherm
5 жыл бұрын
@@benp9793 your mother's bush.
@vladimirsmutny6011
2 жыл бұрын
Full support. The danger is not only through the fire but most of the batteries contain a lot of other chemical substances, most of them poisonous. Although to reused some of the is economically (yet) not viable, they can be at least disposed responsibly.
@RCMarty
10 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough, a 2S 6600mAh hard-case pack puffed on me right at the end of the charging cycle, so I took outside and let it sit in the yard for a week. During the week it snowed, rained, temperatures went down in the mid-20's at night and high-30's during the day. A couple of days ago I tried your technique of putting a nail through the pack... Again, the pack had spent a week outside in the cold, rain and snow but I haven't discharged it. When I drove the nail through all 4 cells on the pack ( it was a 2S-2P 7.4V pack ) nothing happened. Not a puff, not a spark, nothing at all. I threw it in a water bucket just for good measure but then again, no fizzing, no nothing, I was almost disappointed lollll
@jonathanoxlade4252
7 жыл бұрын
would freezing them work because lipos need to be in room temperature to get the max power and when cold they don't work very well
@RCMarty
7 жыл бұрын
Can't say, maybe it'd help who knows ???
@blue03r6
9 жыл бұрын
well first of all your saltwater discharge method isn't following the correct procedure. you're supposed to first resistance discharge them to about 1v for each cell. mix up 1/2 cup of salt for each gallon water used. leave in for 2 WEEKS. not only 3 days. here's a link to the manual on trakpower's website. manuals.hobbico.com/tkp/tkp-batteries-lipo-manual.pdf
@jpsalis
5 жыл бұрын
I think it's a little easier to just hook it up to a load, especially since it gets the pack closer to 0 volts. Also, most chargers can't get batteries down to 1v each, most stop at 3v per cell. So you'll need a resistive load anyway before you even consider putting it in the saltwater. Basically, why go through the extra effort?
@MrKelra
7 жыл бұрын
These things have a high recycling value. Why on earth put this cells into garbage? In europe that would even be illegal, for good reason.
@5150roc
9 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but why make it so complicated. Some poor sap is going try and follow this and mess himself up. Most cities (U.S,) have free chemical disposals and will take it with no questions free of charge.
@ProKfir
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interesting video! What about discharging and sending the pack to be recycled? Is it okay to just throw a lipo pack to the garbage? I'm thinking environmentally friendly.
@dmbadcat
9 жыл бұрын
"that had a tendency of getting a little chubby" That's what she said.
@Laaf65
3 жыл бұрын
know that lithium is reactive enough to break up water, also using the salt water bath generates pure oxygen and hydrogen in an ideal explosive ratio!
@williamborchardt7865
12 жыл бұрын
Good video with good info. Thanks . . . Billbor Smyrna, GA
@kramrle
10 жыл бұрын
Its a very interesting video. It would not have come to my mind to drop a LiPo into a salt water solution. Interesting to see what happened. Resistive discharge is indeed the best solution. I'd recommend to get a decent charger / discharger, (for example a Junsi) which enables you to safely charge and discharge the LiPo battery to safe levels, preventing lipo fires effectively. Plus, instead of wasting resources, bring the LiPo back to the dealer where you bought it for recycling.
@HifiCentret
7 жыл бұрын
Safe discharge is really easy. Just hook up a 6v halogen/bicycle bulb for each individual cell. Let sit for a day after no glow is seen then they're really empty. I do that with those cells I throw in my battery bin I once a year or so takes to the local recycling station. The advantage of using bulbs is that resistance is decreasing rapidly once glow is gone so it's effective a short - but no short when battery is full and a short will be catastrophic.
@TheSeagon
8 жыл бұрын
Don't try this at home kids :) I must say, solid info
@eddiscus
12 жыл бұрын
Considered it but knowing that each terminal on the cells undergoes some level of deterioation from electrolysis and galvanic action. Your voltage readings would become inaccurate. You would need a test point that was internal to the cell itself. Even then some of the cells were partially breached with some salt water.
@camhawkes5361
9 жыл бұрын
that fizzing of the terminal in the salt water is hydrogen
@andrewfpv4226
3 жыл бұрын
Everybody should be taking these batteries to a proper battery recycling center, just like most of the comments are also saying. An old lithium battery is the last thing any landfill needs.
@rcflyer40plus1
10 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks for doing this test.
@KennethNevor
10 жыл бұрын
great video, i was thinking about this the other day. How would i dispose of a lipo?
@eliasasmus
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely not like this!!
@cloudsplitter24
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed!
@anmatheextreme
11 жыл бұрын
Great Info, I guess I am better off with putting a load on the pack to get it to low voltage. One question though, my iCharger has a NiMh discharge function down to 0.10V. Can I use that instead if an external load device?
@nerdCopter
5 жыл бұрын
+1👍 best vid on the subject; will bring to Lowes' after full discharge (so they can improperly dispose of it themselves, lol)
@renfeildlight3473
10 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the equipment to discharge the batteries. Any suggestions? As my first 1 cell battery had puffed over the weekend and I suspect is ready for the trash but I want to dispose of it safely.
@geodangleon
9 жыл бұрын
lithium batteries should never be thrown out in the trash, period.
@EREMIT-DE
3 жыл бұрын
I have like 100-250 Kilos of batteries (~1000 cells) to over-discharge every year. (they are completely workable, but too ugly for market, so if someone want to come and grab a hand: You´re welcome) When I saw the video at the beginning, I was like: Ouh well... I just make a big bucket full with salt water and throw them all in. At the End of the video I was like: Oooo, means I still have to discharge them
@bjrnolsen3081
10 жыл бұрын
the bubbles from the negative wire is hydrogen great video
@nnyboy320
8 жыл бұрын
why would you throw any batteries in the garbage...
@XxbomperxxX
8 жыл бұрын
They're dead
@simonsalt5169
4 жыл бұрын
@@XxbomperxxX Recycle?
@gillianseed4419
10 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't call dunking lithium in water safe but what do i know
@xenonram
7 жыл бұрын
Gillian Seed It's not elemental lithium. it's not the lithium metal you see people throw into water to explode; like any alkali metals.
@jak712we
4 жыл бұрын
The same principle can be applied to lithium-ion batteries? Puncturing a discharged lithium-ion battery will not catch fire?
@AmericanBulldogRocky
7 жыл бұрын
We need a video on the most reckless way to dispose of a lipo battery
@subscriberswithoutanyvid-tz1yb
7 жыл бұрын
Shoot it with a Barrett.50 cal
@brianhaygood183
7 жыл бұрын
Tape them to the front of football helmets and ram into each other repeatedly? ...yeah maybe better to not be wasteful and just recycle them.
@gravelydon7072
2 жыл бұрын
@@subscriberswithoutanyvid-tz1yb Close but I would tape them to the front ( pointy end ) of a 155mm dummy round. Fire in the hole!!!!!!!!!! That could result in two things. A kaboom in the barrel from compression or a kaboom on impact from compression. Or a big nothing burger.
@ferdinandpaul8306
10 жыл бұрын
That is stupid! It would be better and easier to resycle it if you would throw it in resycling bins wich are found in most hardware stores...
@TRAXXAS6606
10 жыл бұрын
That was very helpful. I have a lot in saltwater right now that have been there for weeks. Would they be completely discharged by now? I might like to do what you did there. Thank you for your video!
@ronbrown8611
7 жыл бұрын
you killed it!
@prrcpor
6 жыл бұрын
do it the fun way .jam a long screw driver through the body after it puffs and run . make sure to quickly turn back and see the flames. after a few minutes the battery will be fully drained and able to throw away after its cooled down
@Droneflyers
10 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder if some of this is overkill. After all, vast amounts of materials are in garbage which could self-combust when mixed. I think the biggest danger is when it is in or close to your own house. Has anyone just put them in an empty tin can and covered with alum. foil and then thrown into the garbage truck or compacting dumpster at a transfer station? The fact is that only a tiny percentage of users are likely to do any of this stuff..
@sailingsolar
8 жыл бұрын
Just throw the things in the trash if all you think is that they need to have zero voltage in them.
@MatthewTaylor3
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the findings of these tests
@TheSuburbanHippiePhotographer
10 жыл бұрын
Good video Ed, but instead of some fancy expensive dynamic load, how about just hooking this 82 ohm, 5 watt resistor across the terminals? At 12 volts, you would get 146 milliams of current. I wouldn't think that would be too much, to make the battery heat up.... When I first heard of the "salt water method", I was thinking, "why wouldn't I just hook a resistor across the terminals to let is slowly discharge down to nothing?" Unless you are in a hurry, and discharge time is a concern.. www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12554542&numProdsPerPage=60
@ScudoCamper
9 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much was still there. Thanks for sharing. 😱😊
@RinoaL
10 жыл бұрын
you should reuse the cells instead of trashing it.
@peterbrown562
10 жыл бұрын
How??? thanks
@RinoaL
10 жыл бұрын
Peter Brown take out the bad cell, maybe replace with some lithium 18650s from a bad laptop battery pack. if not you would still have a good set of cells. what you did here was throw away 5 good cells just because 1 was bad.
@captainLoknar
10 жыл бұрын
I reused my cells for a mosquito zapper. vaporizes insects with satisfaction. You can also replace the AA batteries of other electronics. I used them on a flashlight although the cells have to be kept outside, the performance is much better.
@Вася-ш3щ
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, those cells should be used, instead of trashing it. As we can see, it can store enough energy.
@extrem2497
7 жыл бұрын
7:47 Yummy, a Li-Po juice!
@poggy205
7 жыл бұрын
Why this old video is recommended for me?
@lmdetect
5 жыл бұрын
I throw mine away at the elementary school. There is a trash can right next to the building.
@miah650
5 жыл бұрын
Almost every hobby shop that sells batteries will take your old lipos and properly discharge/dispose of your old cells. Lithium is toxic and should never be disposed of into a landfill regardless of charge or reactivity.
@PerryCodes
7 жыл бұрын
"safe discharge of a lipo" seems like it should be an oxymoron... :)
@JohnDoe-gm5qr
9 жыл бұрын
What sort of bad stuff ends up in the salt water when you put that cell with the holes in it? I know that there are some really bad chemicals in those batteries anyhow.
@BankaiIchigo12345
10 жыл бұрын
By the way, your gloves are an over protection. As long as you don't touch the spilled chemicals after making that hole with the nail, you'll be safe. I usuaully use only the minimal protections needed in any experiment, just enough to cover the most likely dangers, in order to avoid looking like a wuss (sissy).
@baseballhunter42
10 жыл бұрын
No, so instead you just sound like a moron.
@o.cwithers3642
10 жыл бұрын
baseballhunter42 I agree
@JavDSilva
10 жыл бұрын
there is a lot of dumb poeple that dislikes to use protection, untill they no longer need it!
@playaspec
10 жыл бұрын
You sound like candidate for a Darwin Award.
@aaronchurchhill1508
7 жыл бұрын
im stealing this.
@res1492
9 жыл бұрын
Whats all that crap at the bottom of the water?
@dwallsace
7 жыл бұрын
"safely discharge a lipo" Hammers a nail into it. Lol
@eddiscus
7 жыл бұрын
Hammering a nail through is not the recommended method of discharge. It was done in the video to demonstrate the difference between the proper method of discharge(resistor load discharge) vs the ineffective (salt water bath) method.
@gongrondona
9 жыл бұрын
This works for cellphone baterys too?
@voltare2amstereo
10 жыл бұрын
could you hook the pack up to a halogen lamp to discharge a pack
@app0the
9 жыл бұрын
Hello Ed. I have a couple of old LiPo cells from a MacBook Pro battery (the famous bulging 2006 series) which got bulged. After trying to cut off one of the cells from the controller it turned out that the next one in the pack will start to bulge and so on. Since then I have salvaged the casings but the packs themselves are still somewhere in an insulated metal box in my garage, still attached to the controller. The question I would like to ask is -- why would this happen? Incorrect controller firmware maybe? Since both packs went on the same effect after about 313 cycles. Or maybe the heat from the full-metal laptop casing made it go like that? Also, what is the proper way of storing, handling and disposing bulged cells? Thanks in advance. - Ak.R.
@ChozoSR388
8 жыл бұрын
I have a bit of a situation, and not sure how tto proceed; I have a small 1200 mAh LiPo pack that I've had for a good few years that is in a portable charger for an old Cig2O eCigarette. I charged it today and noticed that there was some slight bulging from the charger housing, and opened the charger itself to see how bad the puffing on the pack was. I know from past experience that the cells are around normally 1/8" thick. This pack is around an inch to an inch and a quarter thick, and looks like a new pillow. How would you recommend I proceed in this case?
@johnoconnor99
8 жыл бұрын
Where did you dispose of the polluted salt water?
@xenonram
7 жыл бұрын
John Oconnor Polluted? Polluted with what? The packs were not punctured.
@astral7919
6 жыл бұрын
He drank it Happy ?
@janek9812
10 жыл бұрын
7:20 thats called a big battery :]
@ThomasShue
11 жыл бұрын
I hope you are joking. That is one of the most irresponsible statements I have ever heard. Imagine a trash truck on fire driving down the road.
@jiajun898
7 жыл бұрын
What is that black liquid oozing out of the battery? Did you add it to your campbell soup?
@GaryGilbertkustom
12 жыл бұрын
Hey Ed Good job on the Video maybe I will see you at the club some time.
@bench2579
7 жыл бұрын
lithium is very recyclable, just recycle them.
@joxmac4420
8 жыл бұрын
And no Hydrogen gas was emitted?
@1kuhny
10 жыл бұрын
once its punctured its safe right
@AidanGieg
10 жыл бұрын
Great video! :)
@HVinduction
7 жыл бұрын
Nope there are when you do this toxic gasses will escape!
@PatRiot-
7 жыл бұрын
Bet those fumes are great for the lungs XD
@petti78
9 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone do anything else than just chuck the packs to the nearest recycling center where the people recycling batteries are not trying to kill anyone with the poisons but rather know what to do with them...?
@aaronlowe3156
8 жыл бұрын
There's another reason why you shouldn't use a saltwater bath for this. When you put a battery in it, the bubbles you see on the negative terminal is hydrogen. Remember the Hindenburg? Hydrogen, in the presence of oxygen, is flammable. Guess what gas forms at half the rate on the positive terminal? Oxygen! Besides being potentially flammable, my chemistry teacher mentions that thie form of electrolysis actually may form some chlorine gas. Nasty stuff. Not sodium hypochlorite (the "chlorine" in bleach), but chlorine itself.
@connivingkhajiit
8 жыл бұрын
of course hydrogen is flammable
@aaronlowe3156
8 жыл бұрын
Michael beseler Not by itself though. A flame in a container of pure Hydrogen would extinguish.
@connivingkhajiit
8 жыл бұрын
Aaron Lowe true
@gravelydon7072
2 жыл бұрын
@@aaronlowe3156 Nuclear reactors have a Hydrogen bubble in the top of the unit. Even TMI had one with oxygen present but could not reach the explosive level and after one day as it cooled the oxygen was reabsorbed by the water.
@Loyd1025
10 жыл бұрын
How long did take to discharge the pack using the resistance load?
@ipadize
11 жыл бұрын
what happens if you tear off the outer foil?
@VladAndreis
11 жыл бұрын
I just take mine to a random park (away from my house) and chuck them in the garbage there. I don't bother putting them in salt bath or any other stuff like that, can't be bothered. Much easier to make it somebody else's problem.
@jpsalis
5 жыл бұрын
But it's not, it's your problem. Irresponsibility to the maximum.
@fondfarewell2
7 жыл бұрын
Hello there. I gave some guy a battery that was a 3s and was charged to 14.9 volts by accident. I told him it would be really fast. what do I do now?
@NitoNationality
10 жыл бұрын
What if the cell was punctured in crash and discharging isn't a possibility?
@smallenginedude71
10 жыл бұрын
severe damage to the car or plane. thats why most of my packs are hard case
@eddiscus
10 жыл бұрын
Carefully remove the damaged cell and discharge the rest. Not recommended for those without the experience.
@jonathanoxlade4252
7 жыл бұрын
all that hard work to remove a dead cell I rather have fun and die younge lipo smoke is cancer but so is sniffing superglue aswel
@ShaneMatthews27
9 жыл бұрын
Why would you throw away the battery if only one cell is gone? make it a 4 or 3 cell or something! Why waist it?
@aviko9560
8 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work like that
@nerdherd1796
8 жыл бұрын
+shaneman27 You are kidding... Right?
@ShaneMatthews27
8 жыл бұрын
no I'm not kidding. i always save the good cells.
@rogerhurd6434
8 жыл бұрын
+shaneman27 LOL I have taken individual cells charged to full and matched them to other of the same capacity and voltage. Have made numerous new 2, 3, 4, and 6 cell batteries from other packs that had 1 or 2 cells go bad. Yes you can do this with patients and a solvent for the glue that binds them in some cases. To the people acting like this is a bad idea or it would not work; guess what, its not rocket science.
@ShaneMatthews27
8 жыл бұрын
+roger hurd yup that's what I do. I do a few cycles to find the capacity and then stick them together. I'm time rich and money poor.
@Apple-Bay
9 жыл бұрын
If u do it on an iPhone battery fully charge it will catch fire ... I just uploaded a video
@sykal
7 жыл бұрын
looks like to dispose properly, just drive a damn nail through it.
@jonnyspeed
9 жыл бұрын
Point proven. Thanks
@sergio79arg
8 жыл бұрын
my lipo charge have a mode discharged batery . this is good mode for disposal baterys?
@sammyhyland
10 жыл бұрын
What happens when you shoot lipo's with a gun?
@xr2nix
10 жыл бұрын
Ever heard for recycle?
@jonah8797
7 жыл бұрын
Did you got Clor in the saltwater?
@loganbently8913
7 жыл бұрын
so where do i properly dispose of a lipo i have one thats gone bad
@eddiscus
7 жыл бұрын
Depends what your local regulations are. The point being and it seems some are not even getting. Is that the saltwater bath method, recommended by one of the hobby battery manufactures and others is messy and ineffective in rendering a pack safe for disposal. Any type of restive discharge method is preferred. It is no problem to toss any of our typical house hold batteries in a recycle bin. But to toss a partially or fully charged 6S 5000mah pack in a recycle bin shows disregard for other peoples safety.
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