He literally has Sasuke winning this fight tho@@BILLYNFU
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@PuffPuffPass123 doubt that
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU just go try and look it up it was either him or this other dude with a tobirama bobble head pfp
@redeyesdragunknight6255
Ай бұрын
One thing that’s always been crazy to me is that The Ashura Path survives a Raikiri from Kakashi, but a punch from SM Naruto completely incapacitates it
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Such an underrated feat
@thelegacyofgaming2928
Ай бұрын
Because the punch was in Sage Mode. That's not a regular punch lol
@AidenB1010
19 күн бұрын
it was a dura neg punch with frog kata
@justanothercommenterwithan9089
16 күн бұрын
It was a Rasengan not a punch if you take another look at the panel you can see he used rasengan.
@BILLYNFU
16 күн бұрын
@@justanothercommenterwithan9089 I even say in the video that it was with a rasengan
@Dilllonm
Ай бұрын
Naruto - Sasuke Would you like these shadow clones to use sage mode or not?
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Literally
@nk47596
Ай бұрын
Finally an actual power scaler Dygo always has an Uchiha bias he even does this in his own rewrite
@ta_pls8767
Ай бұрын
Uchiha are better.
@AnimeBoy0811
Ай бұрын
@@ta_pls8767is that why there Srry ass got killed by a 16 year old itachi using 1 or 2 tomoe is that why they can get there ass beat by genin sasuke I’m Srry but obito madara itachi ain’t helping it 90% of the clan is Srry as hell uzumaki is better they had the whole 5 nation jump them just to beat them way better then those Srry ass utreeha
@kingbura8364
Ай бұрын
@@ta_pls8767 Because the story made them better. They’re essentially the only clan that actually gets explored. I still don’t know what happened to the Senju clan till this day.
@NoobSebot
Ай бұрын
@@kingbura8364 No lie, we have no clue what the Senju even do besides being jutsu nerds. They did us dirty with the Senju lore. They couldve explored something about the senju...but NAH.
@lapplandkun9273
Ай бұрын
To be fair, the Uchiha hard carried the series. Every time a shinobi conflict was shown, either regarding politics or otherwise, the uchiha was at the forefront of every single one of them. I do think they're overrated powerscaling wise, but in terms of story and plot, they're exactly the reason why the story only lasted as long as it did. It's ridiculous to even say it, but Naruto would've never gotten strong since the entire narrative revolved around him getting stronger because of Sasuke.
@zarz3049
15 күн бұрын
Finally a sane person who thinks sage mode naruto wins, too many scalers like loko and dygoknight thinks sasuke wins 😂
@sethtone8634
Ай бұрын
Naruto was just always better then Sasuke.. the reason why he lost in the kid fight was Sasuke was trying to kill him and Naruto was holding back.... Thats the reason why sasuke got a slash on the headband instead of his heart...Sasuke even says in the fight with Obito
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
Naruto has an idealized version of Sasuke in his head that is much stronger than Sasuke actually is. That has been my interpretation. The only point that Sasuke is stronger is early Shippuden.
@sethtone8634
Ай бұрын
@@serendipitouscomet 100% people miss that
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
Sasuke was always stronger than or equal to Naruto from the beginning of OG Naruto to the beginning of the war. The only point Naruto crossed Sasuke was when he befriended Kurama and unlocked Bijuu mode. And Sasuke was not trying to kill Naruto in the kid fight, he explicitly stated he didn't wanna follow Itachi's footsteps and get power that way when Naruto asked him why he didn't kill him back then.
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 Part One Naruto was always stronger than Sasuke. In the Land of Waves Arc, Naruto showed he was superior when he was able to defeat Haku with Kyuubi chakra. In the Chunin Exams, I still don't think Sasuke was at the point that he could defeat a rampaging Naruto. In the Finals, Naruto showed he was superior to Sasuke in his performance against Neji and later a fully transformed Gaara. No way Sasuke can do anything about Gamabunta. In the Valley of the End, Sasuke admitted that Naruto would have beat him if they both had killing intent. Naruto chose to scratch Sasuke's headband over winning the clash. In Shippuden, Sasuke is stronger than Naruto until Naruto gets Sage Mode. Then once he has Sage Mode, there's never a point in the story where Sasuke is stronger again.
@sethtone8634
Ай бұрын
@@serendipitouscomet that's true
@crimsoniscrispy9999
Ай бұрын
Dygoknight has the tendency to be EXTREMELY biased to the Uchiha. Literally said that Juubidara was stronger than Kaguya 💀💀 Edit: Dygoknight said that Juubidara is stronger than Kaguya not me.
@Zirgu14
Ай бұрын
And this is a fact
@imshkth
Ай бұрын
This is simply not true. Zetsu took down Madara with Obito's weakened body, something he could never have done to Kaguya. Zetsu (via Obito) manages to override Madara's sense amplifiers (Jūbi, Senjutsu and Rinnegan). Not even mentioning the fact that Madara couldn't handle the chakra it took to revive Kaguya. She is stronger and that is it.
@crimsoniscrispy9999
Ай бұрын
@@imshkth I'm literally saying that Dygoknight said that Madara is stronger. Obviously he's wrong asf. I agree w you. Kaguya is an entire tier above Madara. chill bro
@imshkth
Ай бұрын
@@crimsoniscrispy9999I know. I was responding to the guy above me who responded to you.
@crimsoniscrispy9999
Ай бұрын
@@imshkth Oh I think he's saying that Dygoknight being biased is a fact or smth
@ShadowProject01
Ай бұрын
lol I tore a giant hole in Dygoknight’s arguments in the comments on that video for reasons you mentioned. Most importantly, even Obito said SM Naruto was stronger Sasuke at this point
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
He only said that to instigate Sasuke. Obito didn't actually watch Naruto's fight with Pain so he couldn't know if he was stronger.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145that’s baseless and DEFINITELY not true , stop spreading that around . He was talking about Naruto beating pain
@mereal5331
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFUYes! It was about Naruto beating pain. He knew Sasuke at that hebi point could never defend pain/Nagato
@SA-js8sb
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 zetsu relaying all sort of information?????
@lexogun1311
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 these Stoopid Sasuke fanboys!! WTF?
@bandai7602
2 ай бұрын
Finally, a justice and fair power scaler. Thank you!
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
No problem bro
@justthefacts6902
Ай бұрын
Bro literally did not even mention the most powerful jutsu in hebi sasukes arsenal but ok lol.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@justthefacts6902 ya one he wouldn’t be able to use
@justthefacts6902
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU that’s a MASSIVE assumption on your part… these assumptions your making prove how bias you are on the topic. What’s Naruto going to do to stop sasuke from shooting fire into the sky lol? Do you honestly believe sage naruto is THAT fast? To the point where he’s just speed blitzing HEBI SASUKE without him being able to dodge or at least react? You may be the only person I’ve EVER come across to wank sage Naruto’s speed so hard. And you’re definitely the ONLY person I’ve ever come across that believes Sage Naruto is some how faster than Hebi sasuke with zero feats lol.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
Ай бұрын
@@justthefacts6902 The most powerful jutsu that will do absolutely nothing vs Sage Mode Naruto, lmao
@mereal5331
Ай бұрын
Dygoknight also said Itachi *low diffs* Jiraiya. NCHammer 23 made a video right after that and said Jiraiya would win but thats not my point. My point is him saying Itachi low diffs Jiraiya
@DhruChaney
8 күн бұрын
Nchammer is a terrible scaler but sage Naruto still wins
@Skillz1023
2 ай бұрын
Bro only drops bangers 🔥
@cortezlucious95
Ай бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! God I thought NOBODY else on KZitem was sane!
@ashc4167
2 ай бұрын
Lololol best intro to a response video subbed
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@joaoandrade5301
2 ай бұрын
Naruto doesnt even have to pull any complicated moves, frog kumite is enough to beat sasuke because he cant read the frog kumite attacks with the sharingan
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
True
@bandai7602
2 ай бұрын
Sasuke needs his Karin for this type of situation. Lmao
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@bandai7602 true
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
The counter to frog kumite is chidori stream, chidori spear or Sasuke's lightning sword. Sasuke's lightning sword and chidori spear are lethal enough for Naruto to avoid any CQC with Sasuke.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 he’d quite literally blitz and one shot Sasuke in close range combat
@elyase4626
2 ай бұрын
Thank you, I had an aneurysm watching Dygos extreme glazing of hebi Sasuke. I think SM Naruto vs 5 Kage Summit Sasuke is a closer match than this one.
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
Hahaha Uchihas by default will win most matches if your fav character is an uchiha.
@AbegazNap
2 ай бұрын
then u r dumb
@axelnova123
2 ай бұрын
@@thallesalmeida5880Except when fighting Senjus 😂😂
@IIIISai
2 ай бұрын
Naruto isnt immune to genjutsu
@elyase4626
2 ай бұрын
@@IIIISai Yes, but he'll be fighting with the sage toads backing him up, he has kurama, and his sensory capabilities are high enough that he can fight without looking at him. (Also, I don't think Sasuke's ever used genjutsu against Naruto in their fights)
@CH1C4N0444
2 ай бұрын
W video Something I wanna point out that I've seen mentioned by another KZitemr (Satori, who's done some collabs with ThunderGod aka Thunder Bark or Woof Good and CatchDog, Loko, and a few others), but a lot of characters do end up scaling somewhat to KCM1 because of the Edo Tenseis being able to react or interact with KCM1 clones. Its kinda silly, but he does bring it up in a few videos with the aforementioned Collabs. Also, i love that you mentioned that each path can scale to being at or above Sage Jiraiya. I've mentioned it in a few different comment sections, but Base Jiraiya was shitting himself to just the Animal Path and brought out Sage Mode explicitly because he was afraid of dying to a single Path of Pain TL;DR - KCM1 Clones+Edo Tensei retroactively scale characters higher as others have pointed out and Each Individual Path of Pain>Sage Jiraiya is a W
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I think fighting a kcm clone doesn’t make you scale to kcm naruto . We see kcm naruto slam 99% of the verse pre late war. And most of the edos don’t actually scale to kcm naruto in speed . Naruto in kcm doesn’t use his full speed in every fight .
@elhood4060
2 ай бұрын
Cap each individual paths are not above Jiraya, he easily killed the animal path even though he was getting jumped. You need to understand that they are weaker when nagato is channeling through all the paths and stronger when he's just channeling through one or two. All the paths has to go to sleep to even use the Deva path full power. And all those weaker paths were getting pressured by characters like kiba. Is kiba on jiraya level?
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060 did you miss the part where I said their power fluctuates based on what Nagato needs them to do. Pains don’t have a static power level . Especially the paths he used as intel gatherers getting less chakra than the paths he was using to distract the village . Also it took a rasengan to take down the animal path for Jiraiya
@CH1C4N0444
2 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060You miss the part of the story where Jiraiya was like; "Holy shit, this dood is going to kill me, I hate to do it, but I need to turn Sage Mode on or imma fucking die?"
@elhood4060
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU was reading comments while watching, regardless of the fluctuation I still don't think you can just scale all the paths above SAGE mode jiraya, again I'm referring to just this comment where this guy is scaling every path above SAGE mode jiraya and I think that's cap.
@ExoticZah
Ай бұрын
Thank you Dygo and Loko are trippin
@Farenhyte-
Ай бұрын
The second i heard "Dygonight" i knew this would be a wash lmao
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
That’s the reason I made the video . The video isn’t about his
@ACertainMan
Ай бұрын
THANK YOU, Dygo literally dropped the ball with this one.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Big time
@EpicAnimeFights
Ай бұрын
Dygoknight is great, but he is a Sasuke fan/Uchiha fan. You can't argue with them. I remember in the good old days of Naruto forum Sasuke fans were absolutely delusional all the time. There were even threads about kid Sasuke beating Tobi, Hebi Sasuke soloing everyone etc. There was always a well known saying that you don't argue with Sasuke fans because they just can't accept the fact that Sasuke is losing to anyone. That's why Sasuke used to get tons of hate. It was not because of him as a character, he is pretty cool to be honest, but it was because of his fanbase. The video about Hebi Sasuke vs SM Naruto shouldn't even be a video. The fight wouldn't last that long lol. His argument that Sasuke would use Kirin to defeat Naruto is insane as well because Sasuke needs time setting it up and he just won't have that time because he would be defeated long before that.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I completely agree with all of this
@sasamacias6955
Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this accurate video
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I appreciate this
@treylearns634
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this god-send video subscribing
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@2Snor
Ай бұрын
Great video, its hard to believe some people actually think hebi Sasuke even scales close to sage mode naruto. I was always on team sm naruto in this fight but after watching this video there is no doubt in my mind that sm naruto would win, like its not even a close fight its a massacre. Left a like and a sub, good job on the video.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Thank you bro that means a lot , I’m glad you came to the same conclusion with the same information
@Sujisakamoto
2 ай бұрын
W video, the entire Naruto community needs to see this video you cooked the entire time 👍👍👍
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that a lot , it was all off the dome too
@Sujisakamoto
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU That’s crazy! You definitely know your Naruto. Keep doing videos like this please bc there’s tons of misinformation going around he Naruto community as you may already know!
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@Sujisakamoto thanks bro I’ll do the best I can to entertain and inform people about Naruto
@Slickydicky69420
2 ай бұрын
Omg you were spitting so much. Loko is not ready for this.
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I didn’t realize he even pushes Sasuke like that , I did this mostly for Dygo
@Slickydicky69420
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU he did a stream reacting to the dygo vid last night, he was basically saying dygo was spitting the whole time, but yeah loko been on the hebi sasuke is kcm1 level for a while now
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@Slickydicky69420 saying Dygo is spitting about anything is crazy
@wilbestvids
2 ай бұрын
lol i thought he was just speaking nonsense when he said sasuke can defeat naruto sage mode and i like watchin his videos
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
@@wilbestvidsYeah I pretty much feel the same, I disagree a lot from Dygo but hey, that's fair match, and mostly possible match, since they were at the mentioned status at almost the same period of time.
@SunnyGoat-ut5qw
Ай бұрын
Even Base Naruto was able to cancel out Madara's deep Forest emergence, and that was a Shadow clone!
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
He did it because kurama lent him chakra and blew it in one shot. He couldn't do that with his own chakra.
@jeezyyplays6234
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145Idk what makes you think that, naruto has insane chakra reserves even without kurama
@stephenwangondu3618
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145Naruto has more Chakra than Kurama.
@SunnyGoat-ut5qw
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 That was just filling up Base Naruto's Chakra that's it, he wasn't boosted what so ever, he could do this feat Easily if he was full Chakra.
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
@@stephenwangondu3618no tf he doesnt 😂 we've literally got proof of that via feats, and if you use Naruto surviving baryon mode as proof for him having more chakra then you just don't understand the series
@Slickydicky69420
2 ай бұрын
Loko is definitely crying rn. You did the comm justice with this video.
@BruhmiusTH
2 ай бұрын
Facts, his Hebi scaling is as asnine as he is!
@thefakebriskeh
2 ай бұрын
@@BruhmiusTH not as asinine as his community
@kinginblack2845
Ай бұрын
Didn't that dude said hebi sasuke bodies Minato or something, 😭😭,blud is a sasuke cock muncher
@kiddeath8883
Ай бұрын
Great video Billy
@FluentUchiha
2 ай бұрын
Nice video!
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@TheOmniSavage
2 ай бұрын
Nice video Billy
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thanks bro I appreciate it
@_iAmDueceX2
2 ай бұрын
BASED BILLY ‼️🔥
@RicardoKoei
Ай бұрын
Once i joked that dygo would put hebi sasuke at cell games lvl, and he joked saying he found a way to scale sasuke to massive ftl speeds. I not sure if he is joking anymore😂
@isdatdk
Ай бұрын
Hebi Sasuke is on a different level, especially when he's using his intelligence and talent. I think he could outsmart Sage Mode Naruto. Sasuke would just need to exhaust Naruto's Sage Mode time; he has many tricks up his sleeve and is incredibly versatile.
@thefakebriskeh
Ай бұрын
Narutos also shown to be a battle iq genius so sasukes not pulling anything over Naruto crazy like, he doesn't in part 1 and he doesn't in the war
@isdatdk
Ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh Once Sasuke learns that Naruto's Sage Mode has a time limit, he would either hide or simply stay airborne until Naruto's Sage Mode expires. Sasuke, especially as the Hebi (Snake) version, truly relies on his intellect and skills.
@enterthekyuubi
Ай бұрын
@@isdatdkSasuke literally has nothing that can counter any of Sage Mode's broken abilities.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@isdatdkSasuke wouldn’t last past one rasenshuriken , he’s too slow to avoid it , as I say in the video with evidence , and he’d 100% die of it hits
@tonypaca3015
Ай бұрын
this dude saying Naruto would blitz him with a rasenshuriken is the dumbest shit i heard. Did he saw how easily pain dodged the rasenshuriken? he just jumped and sasuke can fly with his Cursed Seal and falcon. Dont make stupid coments please. rasenshuriken not only slow but very easy to dodge vertically.
@zappy0119
Ай бұрын
Nice video bro :)
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Thanks I appreciate that so much
@aaloksudheer5999
Ай бұрын
bruh dygoknight was straight up meat riding sasuke in that video
@scottmatthews4027
Ай бұрын
im gonna be so real i liked and subbed right away, im so glad someone did this because seeing Dygo's video annoyed me to no end. i like the guy fine but like bro what are you smoking with this one?
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I’m appreciative the like and sub bro , I don’t even know why he even started bringing up that topic it’s so one sided it’s not even funny
@GrandeBigdor
Ай бұрын
Finally some common sense scalling. Thanks. New sub
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I appreciate it bro
@MrRedbull901
2 ай бұрын
I’m so glad you made this. I feel like ppl just putting out outlandish takes just for views the shit is actually getting ridiculous. I had to unsub for dyno and loko bc they stupid ass takes
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
Altough it can be seemed as biased I kinda liked those fighters were put to fight. Sasuke CAN win, but it's more likely for Sm Naruto
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@thallesalmeida5880I think Sasuke wins 0% of the time
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
I’m so tired of these guys who worship Sasuke.
@ShadowFiend777
Ай бұрын
💯🎉 Great to know this is doing so well! On the subject of Dygoknight, if you want to see a goated take of his, I'd recommend his Kakuzu vs Pain (Animal path) video.
@aaronosbourne2560
7 күн бұрын
I think a lot of hebi sasuke matchups mainly depend on whether or not he uses kirin. Coz the idea is that it cant be blocked or evaded and has to be withstood. Like itachi with his susanoo shield and naruto in his kurama avatar. But i think most ninja without some kinda OP barrier for protection would lose to sasukes kirin. Its just a case of whether or not sasuke has the time in the fight to meet the requirements (causing a storm)
@aanthonyy_
Ай бұрын
Loko punching the air rn
@berningdubs9777
2 ай бұрын
Might have to subscribe after this, I almost made a video on my fitness channel just to disprove Dygo lol
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I’d love to see you here bro
@PrinceOfKings55
Ай бұрын
I see where you're coming from. However, Sasuke has always been portrayed as a speedy character, while Naruto's speed really amps up when he taps into his Kcm. So, yeah, I'm not against the idea of Sasuke being faster than Sage Mode Naruto.But, speed alone doesn't determine the outcome of a fight. It's just one aspect of the battle. It's kinda like saying Knuckles or Amy are as fast as Sonic just because they can keep up with him in a scuffle. There's more to it than just raw speed. So, while Sasuke might have the edge in speed, Sage Mode Naruto still has a whole arsenal of other abilities and techniques that could give him the upper hand in the fight. It's all about how they use their skills and strategy in the heat of battle that really counts. Outside of me nitpicking how often you kept bringing up the speed comment, I think your video was pretty solid even agreed with a lot of your points, and I'm team Sasuke but I can admit when a fight is not in Sasuke's favour so even if he is faster there's just a lot Naruto can do that Sasuke may not have an answer to.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Sasuke doesn’t have the edge in speed as i demonstrate in the video
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
Well but he does... He keeps up and reacts to people only kcm naruto could later, and thats base speed sasuke no curse mode amps which would have let sasuke one tap the 4 raikage lol@@BILLYNFU
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@PuffPuffPass123 a stronger Sasuke couldn’t even keep up with the raikage
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU five kage summit Sasuke literally lost everything he trained with for 3 years, including speed buffs and strength buffs, literally slower and weaker traded for dojutsu
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU also base Sasuke was superior to Itachi in taijutsu, same Itachi that could react to kcm Sasukes a fast mf
@griffix2841
Ай бұрын
My brother sounds like swagkage and I love it
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@barronwaleford1446
2 ай бұрын
This was a good peak video facts
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Thanks bro i appreciate it , can’t let this bad scaling take over the community
@barronwaleford1446
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU thank you bro someone finally been reading Naruto correctly and it’s been a while since that
@andakin117
Ай бұрын
Honestly it always shocks me how far off people are when it comes to power scaling. I agree with your analysis here. Sage Mode Naruto stomps Hebi Sasuke. This match up really isn't even close. Naruto has speed and power on his side. While Sasuke might be more proactive in his approach to combat whereas Naruto favors a slightly more reactive combat strategy, (At least when he fights against Sasuke.) Sasuke might technically have a versatility edge when it comes to known jutsu but it amounts to nothing when compared to his opponent. Almost none of Hebi Sasuke's jutsu's will be of any effect on Sage Naruto and Naruto can one shot Hebi Sasuke in so many ways. A lot of people really don't seem to understand the significance of Naruto mastering Sage Mode. I would argue that once Naruto masters Sage Mode Sasuke never catches up to Naruto from that point on. I'm not saying Sasuke doesn't ever surpass Invasion of Pain arc Sage Naruto, I'm saying that's when the dynamic between them changes. I'd say while MS Sasuke vs SM Naruto is closer than this fight SM Naruto would pull out ahead in the end. Naruto himself even states that if he and Sasuke fought with their current power they would destroy each other much like what actually happened at the end of the series. (The fight that Sasuke calls Naruto out on for holding back and not fighting Sasuke for real.) Naruto follows SM up with KCM. only for Sasuke to receive Itachi's eyes, even then, I'd argue KCM Naruto is still the stronger of the two. Naruto later goes on to gain KCM2, and combines that with SM where Sasuke needs Jugo to assist him with mixing SM with his Susano. Naruto later gains small portions of the other 8 tailed beasts and during his final fight with Sasuke, Sasuke needed to draw on the power of all nine tailed beasts just to match Naruto.
@SansINess53
Ай бұрын
remember the move that sasuke used against itachi? yeah it's the same move that can take down naruto, it only depends if the toads and naruto ignore it which is probably 100% if you watch shonen anime where characters stand still for 24/7
@goldenrk9907
Ай бұрын
Great video, I have no idea how this debate became a thing. It's always been hebi sasuke vs jiraiya and kage summit sasuke vs sage naruto. Zetsu clearly states that MS sasuke before the summit is weaker then SM naruto. Hebi gets clapped
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Facts
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
This debate became a thing because people started to realize Sage mode's actual power level after the hype smoke cleared. A lot of people overestimated Sage mode due to the Pain fight, but in retrospect it's not that strong and only allowed Naruto to catch up to Hebi Sasuke. And even that's debatable because Hebi Sasuke's strongest attack (Kirin) guarantees one shot Naruto whereas SM Naruto's strongest attack (Rasenshuriken) is an easy dodge for Sasuke. PS: Zetsu only said that to instigate Sasuke.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 ps, he doesn’t say that to just instigate Sasuke . Zetsu doesn’t do that in character like Obito does . That’s so baseless and such a reach . They were literally talking about naruto defeating pain . And sage mode has NOTHING to do with surpassing Hebi Sasuke at all , literally nothing . Sasuke has no influence on naruto learning it . He literally ONLY learned the form to surpass Jiraiya and sage mode isn’t overrated in power , it’s severely underrated. Sasuke loses to base Sannin and Naruto is stronger than any of the Sannin in their strongest forms
@thefakebriskeh
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145"catch up to hebi sasuke" bro he was pulling a fast one on pain, hebi sasuke is not doing that 😂
@kingofgames6248
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 lmao hype smoke ? Sage mode got stronger the more the story progressed lmao. And other sages like Hashirama and Kabuto have great feats against the strongest Uchiha’s each with EMS’s.
@k1cubeyt671
Ай бұрын
One major problem you missed constantly is that Jiraiya is not as a strong as Orochimaru and even Orochimaru with his hands sealed was able to take tsunade and Jiraiya simultaneously So yeah .... jiraya is not relative to orochimaru Another point you missed is that pain was heavily tired after defeating the entire village and still won against Naruto if it was not for the nine tails
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Jiraiya and orochimaru are STATED equal . And he didn’t fight them both at once for any amount of time , he alternated from fighting Jiraiya, to fighting Tsunade next . He never was just fighting them both . And Jiraiya was arguably even more nerfed than orochimaru and still could react and fight
@nothing-hi7mf
9 күн бұрын
@@BILLYNFUbro ur jiriya Glazer (
@supersaiyangodsupersaiyanm7886
Ай бұрын
Dygoknight has some of the worst takes in the fandom when it comes to vs battles. He really should just stick to his rewrite series
@hnt_trae4713
6 күн бұрын
Yeah but his rewrites incorporates his Sasuke glaze so you gotta skip the parts with him in it.
@tythegreatttg
Ай бұрын
Kinda wish you went over the killer bee fight
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I didn’t think it was relevant really
@tythegreatttg
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU I mean that's one of the arguments that ppl use to suggest hebi Sasuke was stronger than toka Sasuke and try to upscale hebi Sasuke bc of the bee fight. They say stuff like Sasuke AP scales off of the 8 tails since he was able to cut the 8 tails and they say he can some what react to killer bee and stuff like that.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@tythegreatttg the raikage is already stated superior to Bee in basically every regard . And I discuss how a stronger Sasuke got folded by the raikage
@ju_8531
Ай бұрын
Someone should tag DygoKnight in this video
@undedude4272
Ай бұрын
Dygo's still the type of person who thinks Boruto's shit. End of arguement
@AidenB1010
19 күн бұрын
one major issue, you assumed kcm naruto was struggling with v2 when it was actually v1 that was outright above him, you can tell by the hair being flat. and v1 raikage is the one that base sharingan sasuke was able to react to, tag, and stab in the chest at the summit. v2 blitzed his movement speed but his jutsu activation still obviously matters
@BILLYNFU
18 күн бұрын
I didn’t assume anything , he needed to go top speed to react to v2. Also I said he could easily block the hits from the raikage in the video
@thefakebriskeh
2 ай бұрын
this is why i fw you billy, you dont overcomplicate your scaling and you get right into it, very simple linear scaling thats easy to follow and built on common sense unlike some people (noodles)but farming dygo knights hilariously bad takes is always a win too, dude wants so badly to be THE naruto guy and pretends he has media literacy on the level of hotboyspicy as well as if he could make metas on scaling naruto like he was 2016 seth 💀
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this bro , I just want people to see what I’m seeing with information I’m examining
@thefakebriskeh
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU lmao i posted, scrolled a bit reading the other comments and come across my comment again with your reply keep at it though, you got a bunch of engagement and new viewers from this well timed banger
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh hell ya you love to see it
@joshawnthabeast
2 ай бұрын
The fact that this is even a debate is what’s crazy to me. It’s common sense that sage mode and kcm 1 naruto would body hebi sasuke. People can’t be this delusional and stupid 😂
@HomellAlcautor
2 ай бұрын
It doesn't even make sense to me. 😂 Hebi Sasuke is literally just Timeskip Sasuke. He doesn't get a power up until after his fight with Sasuke. Why are they comparing one of Naruto's best forms to this version of Sasuke anyway?
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
The only thing I can think of is that because people relate to Sasuke on a personal level and think he’s a better written character, they give him the benefit of the doubt where they wouldn’t other characters. I’ve seen people argue that SM Naruto would nullify Itachi’s genjutsu, and that’s a pretty commonly held opinion. All of a sudden, you want to tell me Sasuke’s little sleight of hand cantrips would be too much? I don’t get it…
@joshawnthabeast
Ай бұрын
@@serendipitouscomet people are biased when it comes to their favorite character I guess. It’s just dumb why not use EMS sasuke to put him up against sage mode and kcm 1 Naruto? That would make so much more sense, but mf wanna have the audacity to say hebi sasuke is faster than sage mode and kcm 1 naruto 🤦🏾♂️
@joshawnthabeast
Ай бұрын
@@HomellAlcautor like why not use EMS sasuke up against kcm 1 Naruto? That match up makes why more since. They were both pretty much at the same power level at that point of the story.
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
@@joshawnthabeast Hebi Sasuke was when he was at his “coolest” and most nonchalant, so I get thinking it’s the most interesting form of Sasuke. All the other forms of Sasuke got beat up, and were subliminally implied to be weaker than Naruto. After Naruto got Sage Mode, he became the savior for the rest of the story and outshined Sasuke, who just kind of sat there and watched from the sidelines. Hebi was the last form of Sasuke to really be better than Naruto. So I get it. But we have to be real.
@napabao7674
Ай бұрын
also orochimaru states that if only hiruzen was 10 years younger orochimaru couldn't have won that fight
@JP.Edits.
2 ай бұрын
Sage Naruto definitely counter Hebi Sasuke's fighting style. Five Kage Summit Sasuke would be fairer. Btw good video :)
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Love seeing these type of messages it means a lot
@Delta45566
Ай бұрын
I think the only way Sasuke could be winning is in the very hypothetical case that Naruto loses control of Kurama, Naruto's mind would be so fragmented that he would be vulnerable to Genjutzu, of course if Sasuke can look him in the eye.
@l0rd_grim340
Ай бұрын
Also you did not add it in the vid but Shikamarus dad states also that Naruto is in his own league when Shikamaru wants to go join him in his fight against pain.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Ya that’s because Sasuke was also arguably stronger than everyone else in the village barring tsunade
@ta_pls8767
Ай бұрын
Deidara was caught off guard by Naruto in the beginning and it was a Deidara without arm.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I literally explain why it doesn’t matter that it was a sneak attack , also deidara literally turned around and looked at Naruto before getting hit
@Your_real_dad
Ай бұрын
Sage mode is pretty much op aginst hebi Sasuke. It depends how long will battle prolonge and Sasuke uses his suppirior perception and battle analysis. Tho I believe sage mode raw strengths make him above hebi Sasuke cm2 stage
@mattmcwhirt4146
2 ай бұрын
You forgot to debunk the most annoying kcm Naruto arguement, Chiyo and kimmimaru fight kcm Naruto therefore they are kcm speed that also makes kid Gaara and beginning of shippuden Sakura kcm speed too. Even tho in the same arc base Naruto makes a shadow clone and parrys a blitz attempt by chiyo.
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Base Naruto intercepted blood lusted Chiyo at the start of Shippuden when she tried to kill Kakashi . People should just read the series
@solo_king251
2 ай бұрын
That wouldn't make kid Gaara that powerful Kimimaro was massively nerfed
@HomellAlcautor
2 ай бұрын
At first I was wondering why this was made. 😂 Sage Naruto and Hebi Sasuke were two different entities at this point. Sage Naruto's comparison is Kage Summit Sasuke in my opinion. Then you mentioned it was a response video. Also to add to one argument against you, I would say that Sasuke was pretty much superior to Deidara. I think people forget that before a certain turning point, fighting off IQ and advantage was huge in Naruto. Sasuke was pretty much beating Deidara in everything (without going all out) but, he did struggle because Deidara had the advantages. Like having Tobi plant the landmines or using his dragon to stay out of range. But if Tobi wasn't there to help him with that, I think Sasuke flat out wins. That suicide bomb was the real threat.
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
The point being is he wasn’t kcm1 level speed against deidara and he did struggle a lot
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
Does Sasuke win without his lightning style advantage?
@emadahmed7145
Ай бұрын
"Sage Naruto and Hebi Sasuke were two different entities at this point" Statements like these are how I know Naruto fandom has very low comprehension of the series and its power levels. The fact is it doesn't get any closer than Sage Naruto and Hebi Sasuke.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@emadahmed7145 watch the video
@miathebarbie7544
2 ай бұрын
be honest I like your channel but I believe to a degree having oro in his body did make him stronger , in fact just think of it this way, oro gets amped and stronger each time he assumes a new vessel taking on their new powers etc so why would it be different in reverse ? Sasuke didn't know the transfer ritual prior to sneaking up on orochimaru , but also idk if thats even true either ? maybe he did. but anyways I dont see a reason why he wouldn't have a amp when he wants to tap into his abilities. and correct me if im wrong but just being able to use someone else's jutsu is kinda like a buff , its extra shit u didn't have added to your arsenal plus he has the certain chakra now that allowed orochimaru to do some of the stuff he did. even a chakra boost is still an amp
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I break down in the video exactly what I’m talking about
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
It made him stronger. But stronger is a vague term. A person with a wider jutsu arsenal is technically “stronger.” Orochimaru absorption didn’t add all of Orochimaru’s power to Sasuke. It gave him access to Orochimaru’s jutsu and a second, hidden reserve of chakra in case his was exhausted. And we know this because Sasuke wasn’t far and away stronger than people who Orochimaru would have beaten by himself.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@serendipitouscomet as I say in the video
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU Another possibility is that the degree Sasuke had to go to prevent Orochimaru from completely taking over his body prevented him from accessing the full power of Orochimaru, and only allowed him to use certain abilities in short spurts.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@serendipitouscomet what we do know is he doesn’t use orochimarus help or chakra since orochimaru had to lend him power , and sasukes chakra was suppressing orochimaru. He of course gained access to white snake abilities from having it in him
@jorbysold-4707
Ай бұрын
Plus they gave sasuke a whole eye that has the most op teleport ability cuz he not faster then others
@12338553
Ай бұрын
The fact is, Dygoknight is great, but he likes Sasuke a lot more, so much so that sometimes he is blinded by that and says stuff without thinking properly. That's why he put Sasuke on top. The only good argument in that video was the genjutsus. I expected to see him argue about it here, I dont know why he didn't. Maybe Sasuke could win because of that, it's something that Naruto doesn't have a counter for. But only if he uses that he can win.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Sage frogs to break him out and he can close his eyes
@12338553
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU Thanks
@Frazier16
Ай бұрын
The curse mark is just a weaker version of sage mode
@JesseGolo
26 күн бұрын
How is this a question? There is a reason we only compare Taka Sasuke to Sage Natuto. The story practically tells us anything weaker on either side would lose.
@nik700
Ай бұрын
I think that it comes down to durability. Since the battle (as planned by Dygo) is taking place instead of Naruto vs Pain, both Naruto and Sasuke have an entity inside that is waiting for their chakra to deplete: Kurama and Orochimaru. But Naruto at that point still has Minato as a backup to regain control, while Sasuke would be absorbed by Orochimaru. And this matters because Hebi Sasuke's strongest weapon is Kirin, and that takes time and preparation, meaning that in order to use it Sasuke needs to generate a longer battle. Sasuke has an advantage at longer range (since Naruto can't spam clones in Sage Mode at this point), but his techniques wouldn't be as effective
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Naruto at range would blitz him with a rasenshuriken
@nik700
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU true
@tonypaca3015
Ай бұрын
kirin does not take any time. just because sasuke spent minutes explaining to his brother doesnt means it takes time. see other ocasions where he used kirin he literarally just launched a few fire balls and its ready as easy as that
@tonypaca3015
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU are you dumb? did you see how easily pain dodged the rasenshuriken? he just jumped and sasuke can fly with his Cursed Seal and falcon. Dont make stupid coments please. rasenshuriken not only slow but very easy to dodge vertically
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
@@tonypaca3015 the only canon use of Kirin required prep and for Sasuke to literally create a storm cloud , he wasn’t just talking shit to Itachi , it’s literally explained how Sasuke needed to set it up . So don’t be so quick to just assume it doesn’t require set up . It’s literally demonstrated to need it
@jonathanguaxinim-raccoon9321
Ай бұрын
Hebi Sasuke Uchiha would only win against Sage Mode Naruto if he had hypotetical 4-tomoe Sharingan (which is somewhat intermediate, above the regular 3-tomoe Sharingan but below the Mangekyou Sharingan), mastery in Kenjutsu, can casting powerful genjutsu, resistant to genjutsu, possesses advanced taijutsu, fire techniques like Katon: Gōkakyū no Jutsu, Katon - Karyuudan, Katon - Gouryuuka no Jutsu, Katon - Zukkoku, lightning techniques like Chidori, Chidori with two Hands, Chidori Nagashi, Chidori Senbon, Chidori Eisō(up to 100 meters), Kusanagi no Tsurugi: Chidorigatana, Kirin, and enhanced speed, along with the upgrade multiplier Curse Mark in 3 stages. The first stage makes him 10 times more powerful than his base form. The second stage makes him 20 times more powerful than his base form. The third stage makes him 30 times more powerful than his base form with partial connection to nature chakra giving more boost power. Otherwise, he would lose to Sage Mode Naruto.
@username2168
Ай бұрын
Dygo just loves Sasuke he's not hiding it Sage mode naruto ≥ ms sasuke
@Migo_thuggin23
Ай бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
Ok about orochimaru... Orochimaru killed Hiruzen with 1st and 2nd hokages's help. Not saying he could not win in any difficulty. But it changes how this fight would go
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
It’s his Jutsu
@joaoandrade5301
2 ай бұрын
because he revived them and controlled them with his jutsu, which shows how strong he is because he was the only one able to do it at that point (and kabuto can only do it later on because he absorves orochimarus power)
@thefakebriskeh
2 ай бұрын
those first edos were utterly weak compared to the war arc edos, they more so served as a mental attack on hiruzen since when he resolved himself orochimaru caught his fade despite having two kage edos to fight for him
@B00MR0ASt3D
2 ай бұрын
2024 and people still thinking the Sanin are equals or even relative is nuts🤦🏽♂️
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
It’s nuts to not think that
@B00MR0ASt3D
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU beginning of series orochimaru or end? Both is bad but eos is obviously worse
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@B00MR0ASt3Dwatch the video
@B00MR0ASt3D
2 ай бұрын
I did… hence how I quoted you saying that lol all you said was as that they are relative. The statements about the Sanin being relative are not during the time frame within which this fight would have taken place so its irrelevant without a time frame. It’s bad enough that the statement is contradicted by like a dozen feats and other statements, but if you’re applying it to this fight it would have to be clarified since their strengths have changed and assumptions are being made.
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@B00MR0ASt3D the Sannin are always relative in Shippuden and part one until they get Amps like orochimaru with Hashirama cells .
@berningdubs9777
2 ай бұрын
Another point to make is that deidara is weaker than an ill orochimaru because oro could have just killed him like you stated
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Yep
@mischift7608
Ай бұрын
If this is the case then why did naruto go beyond sage mode for liltle shin
@obslice2437
Ай бұрын
seth the programmer ahh voice but W take
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Thanks bro I’ve never had anyone tell me I sound like Seth 🫡
@blackraijan1758
Ай бұрын
Didn’t zetsu literally say that Naruto was stronger than sasuke 😂😂
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Yes
@blackraijan1758
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU and yet the other guy KZitemr said the opposite? Lol he must have not watched that episode
@vibatmanvi
2 ай бұрын
Loko got slammed by another person?! SHEESHHHH😭💀
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I thought I was slamming Dygo
@fabianhrastinger2263
2 ай бұрын
I would love to see loko react to this one but he won‘t he just ignores correct scaling to keep living in his small irrational world of scaling
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Debated him and won on it already in vc today
@fabianhrastinger2263
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU good work bro
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@fabianhrastinger2263thanks bro
@thefakebriskeh
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU daaamn please tell me it was recorded PLEASE
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@thefakebriskeh not on my end , maybe someone did . But I doubt it . It was because he tried to son me in toasters server so I told him to go in vc and debate me , he ducked the debate about 100 times until I annoyed him enough to do it , then I won
@maxwellentertainment914
Ай бұрын
well said
@justinwatson7778
Ай бұрын
Sasuke summons manda Naruto picks up manda and throws him
@themetus2190
Ай бұрын
Well if you are giving sage mode to Naruto from head start then you can might as well give rainy weather to Sasuke so that he can Kirin So its not fair for Naruto to head start with Sage Mode considering how much he can tank though I would argue that if both starts the fight from normal state then Hebi Sasuke can actually win because he just won't let Naruto go into Sage Mode But if Naruto enters to fight with Sage Mode he would win
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Well you’re making it Hebi Sasuke vs base naruto . This is a fight between sage mode naruto and Hebi Sasuke … meaning he needs to be in sage mode? It’s not giving Naruto the advantage. It’s literally discussing THIS Naruto vs THAT Sasuke
@DarkEye-re9zg
2 ай бұрын
Why would he go after Itachi then, if he still considers himself weaker than orochimaru? He noted how neither he nor oro could take on Itachi during tenchi bridge arc but was confident when he knew surpassed orochimaru he would go after Itachi.
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
Manga says Sasuke didn’t use orochimarus chakra ,also Sasuke didn’t have access to the chakra because he was the one suppressing it
@LBK978
2 ай бұрын
Sasuke's incredibly intelligent but also incredibly impulsive. You asked why he went after Itachi as if the series didn't make it clear Sasuke would seek smoke immediately if he ever saw Itachi. Plus Naruto as series at this point didn't hit the: you must be kage++++ level to be relevant, so strategy could influence a fight. Sasuke's entire life purpose at that point was killing Itachi, he should be "better prepped" for Itachi than Orochimaru
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
I think for Sasuke, It was the exact point to get rid of Orochimaru. After that point that orochi was failing, Orochi would just make a plan to weaken Sasuke, so the smart move would be Kill Orochi before he starts planning. It was the between having orochi supervising Sasuke's growth and Starting the ritual to Take Sasuke's body.
@randomturd1415
2 ай бұрын
He was wrong regardless lol. Barely survived against deidera, and would've died to Itachi if Itachi was going for the kill
@iliebalica4012
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFUbut He used it to perform oral rebirth, its orochimarus jutsu so He used his chakra
@rowbott
Ай бұрын
easiest way to scale this is ny scaling sm jiraya. sm naruto is heavily implied to have surpassed him. as far as we seen jiraya was relative with base oroachimaru so sm jiraya should be stronger than base oroachimaru and perhaps equal to his hydra form. lets also not forget the itachi himself said that uf he and kisame fought jiraya all of them would have died. this was said by a healthier and thus a stronger itachi than the one weve seen fight sasuke and he may or may nor know abour jirayas sm
@SansINess53
Ай бұрын
sasuke's speed is probably half KCM. (or quarter speed)
@martendo67
2 ай бұрын
Sasuke uses Genjutsu and Ma and Pa negates it by funneling chakra for him
@thallesalmeida5880
2 ай бұрын
Wait, but Kyuubi doesn't actually expells the toads for any chanelling? Like that's why Naruto does that with his clones. If they are on Naruto's shoulders, that's for communication purposes and perform jutsus alongside him.
@martendo67
Ай бұрын
@@thallesalmeida5880 either way whether it’s them or the kyubi interference it’s still gonna jiggle him out of the genjutsu
@thelegacyofgaming2928
Ай бұрын
Genjutsu doesn't even work against Naruto, even without control of Kurama
@bboyx2456
2 ай бұрын
I love my fellow nerds
@NPCRougue
Ай бұрын
How on earth people think hebi saskue stronger, five kage summit saskue is comparable to sage mode
@SansINess53
Ай бұрын
"sasuke surpassed orochimaru at kage summit" aren't you the same person that said, orochimaru would solo the summit?
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
I never said at which point he surpassed orochimaru. At the end of the summit he did . Not when he was fighting the kage . When he fought Danzo
@elhood4060
2 ай бұрын
Sage naruto is taking this low diff this should not even be an argument. The only thing sasuke has to compete is his speed. Hes not as fast as Kcm1 but i think he's faster than sage mode Naruto. Sage mode barely give Naruto and speed boost
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
He certainly doesn’t have speed on sage naruto
@elhood4060
2 ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU how fast is sage Naruto compared to base Naruto? Watch the fight, when Naruto ran out of sage mode and was getting pressed by the Deva path 1v1 the Deva path couldn't even blitz base Naruto, he was keeping up and then his sage mode got reloaded and he was pressing the Deva path with his strength he still couldn't blitz because the Deva path defended all his attacks but sage Naruto was tearing his defense. And Naruto in sage mode was still getting matched in combat speed by the animal path, how fast is she? Easily got caught by the Intel division. Sage mode don't give as .much speed amp as you guys think but the precog should make up for the difference, he can react to way more faster attacks. His only speed feat is blitzing the ashura path, but then how fast is he and he was also off guard.
@IIIISai
2 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060 exactly
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
@@elhood4060I say in the video
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
Sage Mode is enough of a speed amp that it was worth devoting an entire panel to in Jiraiya’s fight with Pain (the falling sandal). Pain should be faster than Deidara, and at least equal to Itachi. Itachi is much faster than Hebi Sasuke, based on the fact he was able to hold back and stage an entire fight with him while on his deathbed. So to me, there’s no way Hebi Sasuke is faster than Sage Naruto. If anything, you might be able to argue Hebi Sasuke is fast enough to keep up.
@SansINess53
Ай бұрын
we all know the 3 tomoe sharingan is bullshit but mangekyo is more bullshit so you should know it will probably cancel rasen shurkin.
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
What ?
@IIIISai
2 ай бұрын
Is and will always be the most slept on sasuke
@aanthonyy_
Ай бұрын
slept on or overrated depend on who you're talking with 😂
@IIIISai
Ай бұрын
@@aanthonyy_ true
@thelegacyofgaming2928
Ай бұрын
Sauke got clapped by Gaara even with curse mark boost as a kid, Naruto folded him. Naruto defeated Pain, Sasuke almost died fighting Deidara. Naruto has been stronger at almost every moment in the series. Only time Sasuke is stronger is when Shippuden starts and he has Kirin while Naruto has nothing new yet.
@PuffPuffPass123
Ай бұрын
That was before he died and came back to life stronger than Naruto was when being amped with nine tails rage
@miathebarbie7544
2 ай бұрын
I mean naruto got caught under genjutsu by itachi and I think u are forgetting how fast hebi sasuke is?
@BILLYNFU
2 ай бұрын
I break down Hebi sasukes scaling , sasuke isn’t as good as Itachi and that was base naruto without 5 toad summonings
@serendipitouscomet
Ай бұрын
Why do people think that Sasuke has equal genjutsu to the strongest, most skilled genjutsu user in the series? Sasuke’s saving grace against Itachi was the fact that natural sharingan users by default have a baseline level of protection against ocular genjutsu.
@miathebarbie7544
Ай бұрын
@@BILLYNFU ok but still got caught under the genjutsu and easily I might add , so I dont in another form would make it much harder for itachi, and even sasuke , just my opinion. and regardless it is fact that he got caught in genjutsu
@ronaldalec4144
2 ай бұрын
Sakuke is much stronger then Naruto rn because Naruto doesn’t have kurama
@y0u_bugg1n
2 ай бұрын
And Sasuke is in a tree 😭😭😭
@AnimeBoy0811
Ай бұрын
Finally a accurate power scaler these sasuke fans want to put him up agaisnt sm Naruto but first sasuke needs to get a win other then sick orochimaru in shippuden then talk
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
That’s a fact
@matejmax163
Ай бұрын
Whether right or wrong you can't dismiss someone's argument by saying "oh yeah, didn't watch it". Dygoknight has some shit opinions, but if you avoid other people's arguments you lose by default, not saying that Sasuke does beat Naruto here tho, just want to say that formal logic should be thought to kids since kindergarten, the number of theists and goku stans would drop to zero
@BILLYNFU
Ай бұрын
Watch the video and you’ll know it wasn’t a debunk video . It was my take on the fight . Watch the video before commenting embarrassing shit like this
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