A mediocre review of a mediocre reboot! Please play the older Saints Row games instead of this. Edit: I realize there are some mechanical details about the past games I got wrong/misremembered when comparing them to this new one. I am very annoyed at myself for that and apologize for being dumb, but none of that changes the fact that this reboot sucks and everything was done worse than before. Thank you
@kennycheramie1255
2 жыл бұрын
Hey dude.How’s your day
@kennycheramie1255
2 жыл бұрын
Also, an you do a video about saints row 2?
@404Errored
2 жыл бұрын
Please don't start your videos with earrape in future. That's really annoying.
@centrevezgaming4862
2 жыл бұрын
And taking the piss out of Bethesda with micro-transactions and fallout currencies even Jim Boon knew this game will be trash by adding dumpster diving for trash saints row this is not larping sound like an disease
@The_Primary_Axiom
2 жыл бұрын
The game was made for 12 year olds using ESG ratings and creatively bankrupt writers, developers and idiotic corpos. More modern day woke PC garbage.
@GojiraRising
2 жыл бұрын
Game devs/studios (entertainment industry as a whole) must really love losing money because over the years they've been going against the roots of their success while making incomplete products & attacking fans negative criticism.
@englandkeepitreal
2 жыл бұрын
There last game agents of mayhem was a complete flop too just shows there narcissism
@Shorty_Hutch
2 жыл бұрын
Unless they're being paid insane amounts by some kind of woke entity, that they still come out with profit
@darkguy300
2 жыл бұрын
my theory: games are bad now because real nerdy developers leave big companies and now the company just wants diversity instead of quality or competence
@Sara-bk3yi
2 жыл бұрын
@@darkguy300 this is an insanely stupid "theory"
@ElGalgoNegro
2 жыл бұрын
I think this has nothing to do with agendas, woke or any other conspiracy theory. Simple as the game industry is now so big that any AAA game has to convince investors. This happen a lot before with games for EA or Ubisoft. Now every company have a place in wall street and them this happen.
@englandkeepitreal
2 жыл бұрын
I love how they made a game that doesn’t appeal to SR1/2 fans but also SR3/4 fans it’s like they wanted it to fail
@Volyren
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how infinitely better SR 5 coulda been with the 'find a new home for humanity' ending from Gat Out of Hell. Just.... off the top of my head, you go to the planet. Its already inhabited by dr seuss looking aliens who are total d-bags and shoot you down immediately. You crashland and all your toys get broken except for some guns. Boom. No more super powers. SR 1&2 fans, this is for you. So you come out of the ship, guns blazing and fight off the aliens. Then, you proceed to declare yourself the new alien overlord of their world, before kicking the enemy general in his glarbnaks. Thats for you, SR 3&4 fans. But what if... you know... the game was actually good? Deep lore dive and gameplay boost, some of the gear that survived the crash was from Ultor corp. A floppy dildolition hammer that you can use to break all buildings down. Red Faction Guerilla fans, this is for you. So.... thats the game. You get a new planet and have to conquer it piece by piece, all while demolishing military assets, replacing them with fast food joints, arcades and stores, exposing the aliens to earth culture and cheeseburgers. You begin to win over the population, with the end goal being the overthrow of the alien government so that the alien citizens can enjoy pizza, classic 90's music and phub. One addendum, if you aren't sold on the idea. An alien buddy who joins the saints. He's basically Jar-Jar Binks, falls in love with weed and Freckle-Bi*ch's burgers and becomes the dedicated base couch-potato and comic relief in as many offensive joke bits as possible. "You almost crashed into a black hole on the way here? Wow. Didn't know you liked Keith David like that...." Aaand... thats the game. You can even spice it up with *good* side activities, paying homage to series staples. Zero-G insurance fraud anyone? Maybe the aliens are having a china-esque policy on population control and they mate by buk*ake. So, to 'stick it to the man' you drive a tanker truck full of splooge to a women's rights rally, and hose them down ala septic truck style. A few alien babies are born black, because Pierce thought it'd be funny to 'add his own boys' to the mix. Then he goes to get milk. *That.* That's a freakin' Saint's Row game. 😏
@FreyOdyssey
2 жыл бұрын
@@Volyren Let's call it Demon Streets for copyright reasons and make an Indie game out of it lmao
@stormkiller4148
2 жыл бұрын
@@Volyren goddamn i want to play this!
@urielpuertas9899
2 жыл бұрын
@@Volyren lets call that game Saints Row: Deploying Up Uranus
@The_Primary_Axiom
2 жыл бұрын
It’s because corpo idiots at the higher ups used ESG ratings and made the game for a group of people on Twitter with no disposable income.
@debanjanxavierpaul1067
2 жыл бұрын
"game was written by or for twitter" explains the game perfectly.
@s.d.4816
2 жыл бұрын
True words.
@MikeTheEnforcer
2 жыл бұрын
Considering a certain person had a say in it. Anita.......
@twentysecondcenturywoman
2 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YES
@gwabafett
2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeTheEnforcer bro it's been over a decade since she was relevant get over it
@comyxcon4gaming860
2 жыл бұрын
@@gwabafett That venomous bitch is STILL trying to be relevant and failed MISERABLY at it. Good for her bwehaAHAHAHAHA!!
@ashh1881
2 жыл бұрын
My disappointment in this game is immeasurable. I miss the days where we could get revenge on a rival gang by making the gang leader accidentally crush his girlfriend with his monster truck after said gang leader had his goons kidnap your second in command and drag him around the city behind a truck. RIP Carlos you were a real one.
@Scatmanseth
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the issue with Saints Row now, it doesn’t know how to have a scene like that anymore. You don’t have to turn into GTA to have a little drama
@dike174
2 жыл бұрын
Saints row 2 was definitely the best entry of the series. Perfect balance between a serious plot and the Franchise's goofy element. Wouldn't mind having it remastered with updated game play mechanics.
@ashh1881
2 жыл бұрын
@@dike174 if volition remasters Saint Row 2, I can die happy. As long as they don't fuck it somehow.
@delsingray5923
Жыл бұрын
@@dike174 tbh I felt that was too serious. I thought burying the kid alive was a little too fucked up
@TaurusTheCrazyBull
Жыл бұрын
@@ashh1881 No, we can't trust them to touch the other games until they redeem themselves from this, especially Saints Row 2
@woobharb
2 жыл бұрын
The irony how they made SR2022 so inoffensive that they ended up offending everybody.
@mrjohnnyk
2 жыл бұрын
When you try to please everybody and wind up pleasing nobody.
@magicman3163
2 жыл бұрын
If they offended everybody that would atleast make it memorable nobody is gonna remember this
@zCREz
2 жыл бұрын
@@magicman3163 Id argue its gonna be remembered alrite, but not for the intended reasons...
@MundaneThingsBackwards
2 жыл бұрын
@@magicman3163 Do you remember the last fart you smelled you smelled? Probably not. That's the kind of offense he's talking about. lol
@thefrog4990
2 жыл бұрын
What's even more ironic is that this game was made for an audience that isnt interested in playing it. They promoted this game and released it and expected people to buy it knowing full well the people they made it for weren't gonna play it.
@mightyfineincredible2252
2 жыл бұрын
I hate how "release it now, fix it later" mentality has become normalized. The people who apologize for this are even worse, I know people who *always* say "Oh it'll be patched, don't worry about it, it'll be fine" every. Single. Time. And it never does.
@GeteMachine
2 жыл бұрын
There are people so desperate to play something saying stuff like "so what game isnt buggy"
@brysonrichey6707
2 жыл бұрын
My philosophy is if you want to fix it later, I’ll buy it later. For 70% off. On G2A. If you don’t have enough respect for your customers to deliver a finished product, I don’t have enough respect to give them my money.
@haaxxx9
2 жыл бұрын
Trust me I am done with that mentality too. Even when the game cost $60 at launch it will automatically disqualify it for making a purchase. Not even worth the hassle.
@badcommentbot8349
2 жыл бұрын
I never buy a game unless it's 12 months old now ,and games that release this poorly I'm never buying see cp2077
@Rise65487
2 жыл бұрын
It's a excuse that work only for games with deep and complexes mecaniques that takes time to really test in depht It's fine when it's from a Strategy-game, It's problematic when it's just a TPS or a FPS
@pcport2698
2 жыл бұрын
You know who this was made for? The devs. Literally just them.
@NateTheGreat368
2 жыл бұрын
Don't lie to yourself. We both know even the devs don't want to play their own.... "Game"
@GeteMachine
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The characters act more like employees than gangsters.
@thehatter9400
2 жыл бұрын
More like it was made for twitter
@Greenapple30
2 жыл бұрын
The devs and people that spend their lives on Twitter 24/7 365
@DisDatK9
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say the devs as much as the department heads and/or the owners of Volition. Clearly this game was a case of a project lead or someone at the very top shooting down any actual talent and insight in order to push in their own awful perception of what they think we want. With the development heads straight up lying in press releases before the actual retail release, I have a feeling it was directly their responsibility. I have no doubt there were likely a lot of great and talented devs fighting every step of the way, until they either got fired or were silenced.
@DashingSteel
2 жыл бұрын
Remember how in Saints Row 2 Ultor had this plan of gentrifying the city making it all nice and clean and marketable for the sake of their corporate investors? Apparently Dane Fogel runs Volition now.
@theoutsiderjess1869
2 жыл бұрын
Dane fogel is at least smart enough to let the gangs do the dirty work for him
@zachorryy
Жыл бұрын
Isnt it Dane Vogel? Normally I wouldnt grammar nazi in youtube comments but the fact that 2 people has used the spelling Fogel makes me wonder if I am wrong.
@trolleriffic
Жыл бұрын
@@zachorryy If it's a German surname the V would be pronounced F so that might be what's causing the confusion.
@bruhmomentmaker4979
Жыл бұрын
Sr2 is 1000x better at critiquing capitalism then the reboot
@DashingSteel
Жыл бұрын
That's because SR2 had something to say about it. The reboot is just a bunch of millennials parroting r/antiwork or whatever
@leikeylosh
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of reviewers that didn't finish the game due to absolute boredom is incredible. The devs should be proud of themselves, they made the perfect "reviewer-killer". No one had the will and commitment to struggle through this entire borefest. I mean, even a game like Ride to Hell: Retribution had people finishing it just out of curiosity. Truly an accomplishment by Saints Row 2022 devs.
@TGPDrunknHick
2 жыл бұрын
and you have to bear in mind ride to hell actually broke a lot. finishing it wasn't just a matter of dealing with boredom but, persisting through a horribly broken mess.
@rickrogan2355
2 жыл бұрын
A bad, horribly buggy mess of a game is always more interesting than a boring and mediocre game.
@therealfriday13th
2 жыл бұрын
...wow...just...wow... ... usually reviewers quit because they're bad at games, but here they quit OUT OF BOREDOM? Ho. Lee. SHIT.
@jamiekamihachi3135
2 жыл бұрын
Now there’s a game I haven’t heard in a while.
@phil_zupra_b5880
2 жыл бұрын
Who knew there will ever be a game as bad as Ride to Hell
@Shorty_Hutch
2 жыл бұрын
This game is the equivalent of when teachers try to appeal to the kids by making lessons more 'hip'.
@DrippleDragon
2 жыл бұрын
Oml like how every commercial tries to appeal to the younger crowd by making raps but it just comes off as corny
@Takato2527
2 жыл бұрын
you mean "how do you do, fellow kids?"
@Shorty_Hutch
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrippleDragon yes! I remember seeing a cringe video on old people owning furniture stores with sideways hats and 'rapping' XD
@Thonato420
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrippleDragon HELL NAH FUCK THOSE
@community444x
2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head. And took out GANG elements
@SOV724
2 жыл бұрын
Let this serve as a hard lesson to any and all game developers and game publications across the world: *If you're not designing your game with it's core fan base in mind.... DON'T RELEASE THE GAME*
@Trinket_Master
2 жыл бұрын
The saints row reboot has been out a week and it already needs a reboot
@etherealtide
2 жыл бұрын
💀
@exalted_space9224
2 жыл бұрын
Retcon the reboot.
@ZannacrossG1
2 жыл бұрын
@@exalted_space9224 Saints Row 4 said itself, reboot leads to death, they knew it to, doh.
@dreadnaught2448
2 жыл бұрын
Just make Saints Row 5 and forget about the reboot.
@Trinket_Master
2 жыл бұрын
@@dreadnaught2448 honestly, Saints Row 4 literally had an Alien invasion and Gat out of hell made Hell canon So why couldn't they just have said there's a multiverse and Saints Row 5 is an alternate timeline where Saints Row 4 didn't happen and we continue on from 3. That way Saints Row 4 is still canon but they can also tone back how stupidly silly GooH was and 4
@bsw351
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to thank Volition for those initial trailers helping us save money
@xotl2780
2 жыл бұрын
I knew this was gonna suck before it was even announced. Never trust a company that "goes back to its roots".
@gwoody4003
2 жыл бұрын
For real. I saw the trailer and was like... so its an exaggerated version of everything that sucks about Ubisoft games but without effort to at least make it look good. Like they were trying to outdo them witn worse protagonists than Watchdogs 2. Narcissist kids can't get their mom to drop them off at the antifa riot? Thats all you got? Hold my poorly rendered beer.
@markprado8185
2 жыл бұрын
@@xotl2780 yea every company that says that never does
@hg7299
2 жыл бұрын
@@xotl2780 heh, they never back to their roots. Volition is ashame of its own francise.
@nostrum6410
2 жыл бұрын
amd gave me the game, still someone feel like a got screwed on it
@dropitlikeitshot815
2 жыл бұрын
It's a sad age in gaming when I refuse to buy a game anymore without having watched some of the gameplay online. And that's not even because I am more careful with my money as I grow older, It's because you cannot trust anyone to release a quality, or even a finished game anymore.
@LunaticLK47
2 жыл бұрын
You were a decade late, dude. This started since 2012.
@Kabooooom670
2 жыл бұрын
@@LunaticLK47 Seems even worse past few years though
@Gonzas97
2 жыл бұрын
Its sad that nowadays we have access and technology, and HD quality, only to play or watch trash like this.
@enkidude9372
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kabooooom670 they’re still a decade late either way. It’s like they found out this information literally yesterday :V, that or maybe they’re just some kid growing up and expanding their taste in games
@enkidude9372
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gonzas97 technology and Hd Quality is what mainstream media and every cooperation cares about the most lol
@monomaurie
2 жыл бұрын
The comedic timing of what I assume was a vulture sound for ambience was perfect at 21:38
@michaelburke7978
2 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how lifeless the atmosphere is? In SR2, almost all the NPCs were doing unique actions, like cheerleaders for example rehearsing a cheer at the university.
@Velociraptor2000
2 жыл бұрын
Or couples cuddling on benches, people handing out fliers, or even crime that just occurs spontaneously.
@lukemolloy5435
2 жыл бұрын
Playing today and within 5 minutes: 1) A barbershop quartet, who sang a full song 2) A streaker, screaming random BS 3) Guy with some kind of skydiving equipment on, falls out of the sky into the graveyard right onto someone else Made in 2008. What a game.
@Deception975
2 жыл бұрын
The NPC nodes are back in this game.
@SammEater
2 жыл бұрын
Somehow it's even more downgraded than SR3 pedestrians. Like seriously, that game was already a downgrade from the second one.
@PinkMarshmallows
2 жыл бұрын
I'm playing SR 2 and I see sooo much action going on. The pimps, saints, and cops keep going at it, I saw cheerleaders practicing cheers, the npc's would taunt me or cheer for me, and it's just so fucking AWESOME! Though, it keeps crashing on me and I don't know how to fix it. 😅😕
@kiratherenegade1561
2 жыл бұрын
People who don't play video games. That's who it's made for. Ironically this made me realise why I don't want a new Silent Hill. Imagine it comes out, reboots the entire franchise & functions as an Outlast rip off. I'd be beyond disgusted.
@nickypoundtown9568
2 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm worried about the SH2 remake, the whole series has misogynistic tones through all of them and really don't want it being resurfaced to the woke
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
2 жыл бұрын
@@nickypoundtown9568 Silent Hill isn't remotely misogynistic. Having themes about sexuality mixed with violence and abuse isn't the same as misogyny. SH is one of the best series' in terms of being intelligent in its depiction of female characters, especially the third game (a milestone in terms of female characters).
@kiratherenegade1561
2 жыл бұрын
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Yes but that will be easily confused with 'needing modernised
@HesGotaGun505
2 жыл бұрын
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 I think the word he meant was ‘themes’ not ‘tones’. A hostile monster in the shape of a dingy blood soaked bed named “Father” that attacks by restraining the player- yeah that is practically the definition of “thematic misogyny”.
@ry7448
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly outlast & silent hill are already similar in some ways so It would be more fitting than this saints row turned Fortnite thing.
@Macrochenia
2 жыл бұрын
"The crew from the previous Saints Row games would relentlessly bully this new one..." Ha! My first reaction to the debut trailer was that the new crew looked and sounded like people that Pierce would bully.
@Ingel_Riday6690
2 жыл бұрын
Haha! "Looked and sounded like people that Pierce would bully" is so wonderfully harsh, yet fair. I love it.
@shwembo
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly was hoping Johny gat would kill them or blow them up and then the actual boss would be there and crack a joke
@VirtualAustin
2 жыл бұрын
@@shwembo that would of been amazing but also glad that it didn't in a way because of the fact that not only is the story not so great but the open world elements are incredibly terrible especially with lack of features that any open world game should have
@Macrochenia
2 жыл бұрын
@@shwembo A lot of people were hoping for that.
@rysephoenix8643
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no...... LMFAO
@GgrimrodD
Жыл бұрын
When the bugs are funnier than the dialogue you know something is wrong
@dinglebingus2625
2 жыл бұрын
I never 100% understood the initial reactions to the new cast, because there's absolutely no replacing Gat, Shaundi and Pierce. But if you reboot a series you're gonna have to get fresh blood in, and make sure they're memorable and don't suck. Sadly, that's not the case here, and those initial reactions were totally justified.
@itsjustrain6328
2 жыл бұрын
I like kevin, hes okay.
@jramos142000
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh the only one that I don’t like is Eli so far I mean Kevin seems pretty chill from as much as I played
@02baby_
2 жыл бұрын
The main characters look like they’d all get bullied in school
@buddykaiser2380
2 жыл бұрын
@@02baby_ and deserve it.
@zerosorigin8387
2 жыл бұрын
I hated Kevin the moment he tweeted about the Saints new hideout, he basically told the whole world and their rivals where they are. It’s called a HIDEout for a reason. If this was the old playa/Boss from 1/2 they would have blown Kevin’s brains out. Eli is just Steve Urkel at this point. Neenah is slightly more tolerable as she is more badass then they are.
@andrewlynch4488
2 жыл бұрын
This game makes me appreciate saints row 4 a hell of a lot more
@torturedkfpemployee883
2 жыл бұрын
Saints Row 4 is pure action all the way through same with SR3 but more grounded
@tskwerl
2 жыл бұрын
How the Saints Save Christmas is better than this whole damned reboot.
@GeteMachine
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldnt go that far...
@oliverislost
2 жыл бұрын
Chill SR4 is still worse
@apexprimebest
2 жыл бұрын
@@oliverislost SR4 is an actual fun game, this reboot is garbage.
@fatoumakankan
2 жыл бұрын
2006: Saints Row 2022: Pious Paddle
@mxbx307
2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the developers were genuinely happy or proud of the state this game is in. They must have been pressured into shipping or had crap design decisions forced on them.
@DrippleDragon
2 жыл бұрын
They can’t do anything else but be proud I mean they still get paid whether the game does good or not at this point, but if they cave in to the game being absolutely garbage then that hurts their reputation and as we can already see their moral standings, they will learn in the end when the game has more returns and reshelfs than any game this year and then those devs won’t be hired again or replaced
@dividedstatesofamerica2520
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrippleDragon Good riddance.
@evelghostrider
2 жыл бұрын
These people got trophies in school for finishing last and told they were just as super as the top 3 🤦♂️
@nostalgiaholic4874
2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Steelion69
2 жыл бұрын
They never wanted to make a Saint's Row game in the first place, they wanted to make Agents of Mayhem 2....so basically they wanted to make a game in a generic, already dead since 2018 genre.
@thechin9241
2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that whoever created this game has never interacted with another human being outside of a corporate setting
@Raoul9753
2 жыл бұрын
Oh they interacted. With those groups that replaced clapping with waving your hands because clapping might trigger someone...
@hg7299
2 жыл бұрын
...and Twitter
@Red-S-267
2 жыл бұрын
It’s like they have only seen the barest hints of “zoomer” culture and mixed it with caricatures created by millennials. Then it was faxed to someone else, but the fax machine was low on ink so the end result was a mess that appealed to nobody. Nobody I know talks like they do. And even if I support getting out from under middle managers and college debt… the people are just so insufferable
@tangoprime
2 жыл бұрын
or on twitter.
@DameOfDiamonds
Жыл бұрын
You mean outside of reddit
@jaysanj152
2 жыл бұрын
Ya know the best thing about this ? It's the fact that it actually made the SR1/2 audiences and SR3/4 audiences joining putting aside their differences and instead join forces together purely to shit on this game cus of how it doesn't appeal to them both.. Yes...It's THAT Bad.
@SeaOfVomit
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, apparently...but as someone who didn't play/love the SR series for the story/characters, I enjoyed the reboot much more than I thought I would. 3 remains the worse game in the series by a large margin for me. 4 went off the rails, but at least it was fun. Aside from a few neat set pieces in missions in 3, the game was even more "soulless" than the reboot, along with the worst map... Obviously bugs aside, I like the reboot more than 3&4. But that's just me personally as a SR1/2 diehard. Guess a SR2 remake is just a pipedream, as Violation just wants to forget the GOAT they made never existed. ☹
@laramieslater7885
2 жыл бұрын
@@SeaOfVomit one major complaint I have is just how short it is though I do enjoy the vtol you unlock at the end
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
Like what the sequels did with star wars! Made the original and prequel fans realize that those stories were good/better then what they thought.
@ZM7241994
2 жыл бұрын
I like that you pointed out how bizarre standards have become in entertainment. You must avoid having characters say something, even as a joke, that could be offensive, but you can have those same characters go on mass murder sprees and not a soul complains. That's 2022 morality!
@bag-manbaron2547
2 жыл бұрын
I believe we just call that Ludo-Narrative dissonance
@WhiteManOnCampus
2 жыл бұрын
@@bag-manbaron2547 Not really. In this case it's a very clear case of morally-skewed individuals writing the story. Someone taking offense is more horrible than mass-murder in their eyes, because those they kill are retroactively non-persons. Like declaring that the children you blew up with a bomb were retroactively enemy combatants. These people don't just have acceptable targets, they have a rationalizing tool that allows them to declare anyone an acceptable target after the fact.
@bag-manbaron2547
2 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteManOnCampus When you put it like that sure, but I don't see it as "2022 morality" like the op said since most sane people clearly see this as insane and making no sense
@thefrog4990
2 жыл бұрын
It's insane. How are words more violent than actions now? You cant call someone faggy but you can go on a killing spree? We are so morally bankrupt lol.
@bjcantrell1990
2 жыл бұрын
@@bag-manbaron2547 When he says "2022" morality, I think he means "twitter" morality.
@Co-Jinn
2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy the Developers for this mess were also disreguarding fans who were obviously skeptical as "Trolls" and "Haters"...That was very mature and professional of them. They got what they deserved, there hasn't been a good Saints game for a long time...Remember Agents of Mayhem...Bet you didn't.
@Aeliarna
2 жыл бұрын
The saints row series is about playing as the bad guys, the kind of group you'd have to take down in any other game. That's always been my take on it.
@mclovin2408
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but at the same time it made you feel like the good guys, not because what you were doing was right, but because we were connected to those characters and we wanted them to succeed, this new saints row isn’t even a saints row, it’s like someone else said, the characters in this game are the kind of people the old characters would bully.
@palladiamorsdeus
2 жыл бұрын
They were the best of a bad lot. Yeah they were villains but holy hell, you see these other guys?
@nightwolf9375
2 жыл бұрын
@@palladiamorsdeus it’s like one of my favorite video game character’s quotes: “we’re bad men but we ain’t them.”
@Aeliarna
2 жыл бұрын
@@palladiamorsdeus 100%
@PBMdanya
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe for saints row 3 and 4
@jetstreamvik9570
2 жыл бұрын
That eagle in the background when you turned around to no cars was cartoon levels of hilarious timing, and a fantastic metaphor for the game. I can't help but wonder if this is supposed to be some really meta joke about GTA 6, since the games were meant to be parodies of GTA, what if this game's just meant to be a joke about what that's likely to become? A soulless, squeaky clean blight on an otherwise good series.
@Mercxry_404
2 жыл бұрын
The whole saints row 2022 feels like the short sitcom like intro in Saints row 4
@tsnhd
2 жыл бұрын
At least that was funny
@CyanMentality
2 жыл бұрын
The part where you start an Insurance Fraud mission and all the cars are quietly despawned, with the timer patronizingly counting down, feels like a metaphor for the game. Thank you for your work. You've educated this wee soul in not spending my time on a game that despawns the fun.
@DetectiveMekova
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, that issue is a pretty common one in saints row 2. I know because im replaying the series and it happened to me four times lol
@ButtSolution
2 жыл бұрын
Insurance fraud was a blast in every previous Saints Row game. One of my favorite minigames of all time, really. It figures they didn't get it right this time.
@mclovin2408
2 жыл бұрын
@@DetectiveMekova but to be fair saints row 2 had good characters and a compelling storyline with a proper sense of humor, you know actually fun.
@james117bond3
Жыл бұрын
7:07 1. The Rollers 2. Deckers 3. STAG That being said, the key issue with how they handled these gangs in the new Saints Row is that at least in the old ones, the main leaders were unique enough to keep them memorable.
@en4135
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Payday Loan mission because it's so indicative of the games bad tone. One of your friends mentions what a total scumbag the owner is, that he even kicked a dog once and that it's morally ok to rob him. But you start the mission by stealing your neighbors cars, multiple cars, just because you can. Then you tell the lady in the loan shop you don't want her money only his which is a trope and a reference to John Dilinger. Then you slaughter a shit ton of random policemen with a smile on your face causing massive property and collateral damage. The player and their group bounce between honorable outlaw and outright sociopath at such a rapid pace. They feel like a faction that in any other game would be a minor antagonist.
@WhiteManOnCampus
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Saints Row 2 struck a great balance between silliness and seriousness. While you can be dresses in a hotdog suit while you mercy-kill Carlos, it's still an emotional and important moment. Meanwhile when you're flinging liquid poop at everything you don't even kill the cops, just leave them drenched in feces.
@martinmethod427
Жыл бұрын
Or someone I and the Stilwater PD would turn into roadkill during SR2's FUZZ.
@SparrowPlays.
Жыл бұрын
That's red dead redemption 2 plot right there
@en4135
Жыл бұрын
@@SparrowPlays. A payday loan robbery? what?
@SparrowPlays.
Жыл бұрын
@@en4135 No, what you said about the game. "The player and their group bounce between honorable outlaw and outright sociopath at such a rapid pace, making it look like any other faction is a minor antagonist" except red dead did it on purpose, lol
@Shiirow
2 жыл бұрын
the fact they tried to make them relatable everymen is a misstep, because they are not relatable in the least while the original crew were never meant to be relatable. they were gang members who would gun you down without a moments hesitation with a quirky quip. they never attempted to be anything else, regardless if they wanted to think of themselves as "puckish rogues". hell the puckish rogue comment was made tongue firmly planted in cheek. I dont need to relate to them, just find them charming amidst the chaos of gun fire and explosions, like an over the top 80s action movie.
@zanzibarforever
2 жыл бұрын
I really don't know why this happens over and over again with lots of beloved series.
@xotl2780
2 жыл бұрын
The team that made the original Saints Row games does not exist anymore. As the decades went by, people retired, got new jobs, got fired, passed on, etc. However, companies are essentially greedy and can't survive without consumers, so they play the hands that they've played before.
@unocualqu1era
2 жыл бұрын
@@xotl2780 True, but it's sad that talent is more and more rare these days, you'd think that as people retired new people could also come up with brilliant new games, not even talking about new IP's since that's "risky" for big corporations and we can't have that, I mean that even sequels are huge piles of garbage
@Kenfren
2 жыл бұрын
The reason this constantly happens occurs for two main reasons. 1. The people in hollywood hate you and everything you enjoy 2. These people are also terrible writers
@TheDrugFreeThrasher
Жыл бұрын
Because developers would rather push political agendas than actually give the fans what they want. Hence the poor criticism
@Circuitssmith
2 жыл бұрын
Wayne Gretzky said “I don’t skate to where the puck is, I skate to where it’s going.” This game bets the farm on casting the widest net possible for this exact nanosecond.
@FTChomp9980
2 жыл бұрын
Saints Row Reboot in a Nutshell: Twitter turned into a game
@cardedmaster5393
2 жыл бұрын
Next they turned Reddit into a game
@robertojimenez4979
2 жыл бұрын
12:19 Unarmored but buff enemy. It takes a magazine and a half to get rid of. Next scene, there's an armored enemy with medium body mass. 3 shots and done. Moral of the story: It's time to workout. 💪😼
@30-06Lover
2 жыл бұрын
Let us know after you experiment
@hopeestheim7285
2 жыл бұрын
Manga: Saints Row 1 & 2 Anime: Saints Row The Third Netflix Adaptation: Saints Row (2022)
@darkwin1977
2 жыл бұрын
i... actually loved the sillyness of 3 and 4. i didnt like everything about those games, but ... they had a charm...
@crupt1023
2 жыл бұрын
Saints Row 4 is one of my favorites. Zinyak is freaking great
@valen9835
2 жыл бұрын
Zinyak alone made 4. He was just fantastic. A bit too absurd, bit too easy to get overpowered(like unlimited ammo shouldn't be available until postgame), but still could be fun.
@marks2807
2 жыл бұрын
I loved 1-3. My problem with 4 was the Super Powers. It did not feel like a saints row game with powers.
@darkwin1977
2 жыл бұрын
@@marks2807 yeah i can understand that, it feels like they they went over the top, but going to be honest, i did enjoyed the superpower, i think they could have been better balanced, but the reason i like it its because... there were no many good superheroe games at the time. just a few.. and honestly, if you didnt name it Saints Row. or at least make it some sort of offspin like returning from hell, i figure less people would have hated the superpowers. there stuff that cranck the genre into an 11, like elden ring did to the souls formula, but Saint row comedy went for 40, the 4 is so over the top, that it... misses a lot of its old public, which honestly might have not been the best play for them [i think yatzee make a better explanation on why the escalation skipped a few steps since space is like... that last thing to pull off]
@Rawnblade13
2 жыл бұрын
3 and 4 are my favorites. Just absurd over the top FUN. It just felt like the developers did a bunch of acid to see what happened. xD
@calamaria9221
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly a huge improvement would have the story be around them thinking starting the gang life would be fun and just like tv and movies show, which actually do fit in with the characters as they are now. Have the start of their gang life be what they thought, fun and lighthearted, until it quickly gets dark. Maybe they got into something they couldn't handle. Maybe went too far during one of their heists or whatever. Or maybe all they were doing before has been angering the other gangs and after ignoring them and brushing it off, the gangs go after them (separately at first and maybe have them form a truce to go after them together). Making reality slap them hard in the face and forcing them to grow up or die (and maybe even have one of the four die because of whatever they did if the writers are bold enough).
@thephantomoftheparadise5666
2 жыл бұрын
That still doesn't sound that great.
@jwn5
2 жыл бұрын
They kill off all these characters in the end and I'd probably pay 60$ just to see that... Tragic for whoever the hell wanted this crap but a nice comedic reward for me
@explorinjenkins349
2 жыл бұрын
The worst hardship this new crew goes through is Neenah's car gets trashed. They couldn't even kill any of the saints.
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
Or hell, they cause so much damage that the national guard is called in, and the 4 are gunned down by the military/FBI in a huge raid with no chance of survival. All the other gangs surrender and the city finally see's peace.
@oceanman_8370
2 жыл бұрын
There is a silver lining to this reboot. There was a massive sale of the old games on steam, and I got 2 through Gat outa hell for 20$. It's not a good time to be a Saints Row fan but I'm glad that I could become one
@Jebus53
2 жыл бұрын
Better late than never 👍
@Nico42048
2 жыл бұрын
I got Re-elected for 6-7 Euros a while back, and I'm loving it. The Reboot looks like 80% of modern games: Corporations trying to push political narratives to appeal to people who are just on social media all day
@daviddune7259
2 жыл бұрын
My co worker liked it because of the dialogue😂
@sokumotanaka9271
2 жыл бұрын
I remember having a conversation with a person about how these characters feel one dimensional and quirky for the sake of it And I loved the characters in the prior games; Kinzie is a foul mouth amazing hacker who has fun banter with the boss and despite her mouth cares deeply for the saints as a crew, this was her family, a nerd who didn't really have one. Johnny was a hard ass who only became such to protect himself, he lost a lover while living the gang life and it hardened him to the point where he would fight hard not really caring about his own life in the process. And that's just two characters, Oleg, pierce, Shaundi, Benjamin, Julius and the list grows! these characters are fleshed out from their first introductions to their last. And I feel like leaving their stories unfinish is a disservice to the saints. I'd be fine with moving on to a new universe of saints but this? I can't even muster up any feelings for the characters; they just feel like cardboard cutouts they put tropes on and forgot to give personalities, like these are placeholder characters. I said it before; but this feels like it was made by a person who hated the original saints row (personally I like the self aware goofiness of 3/4 and thought it set itself apart from a GTA clone) and thought they'd do a better crime drama but forgot the drama and just went "crime" and hope you wouldn't notice how bare bones the gameplay/characters are; which are the two most important things for games like this!
@BWMagus
2 жыл бұрын
They all but admitted they hated the original games.
@James-oj6ru
2 жыл бұрын
You know… you think a series that emphasizes about gangsta life and how psychotic all of them are would never tried going with the “capitalism is crap and student loans is hell” and “relatable group of youngsters” approach yet here we are At least with Saint Rows 3-4, they did it because they don’t want to be compared to GTA, it’s a valid reason even if the results is… _questionable_ but… _what about the reboot?_ What valid reason does it have to justified our character’s action as heroics when they _rob a store, gun down lawyers and polices a-like and more reprehensible shit only the Cartel would try to justified it?_
@ArchOfWinter
2 жыл бұрын
The thing is the whole capitalism crap and student loan things could have been written well into the story but they didn't. People falls into the life of crime because of economic, they can have a story that is still funny but explore these kind of things. The original games and flashbacks & audio logs in SR4 did more to address crime and economics than this. Ben King's backstory in SR4 is him writing a book about gansta life hoping kids would learn from his mistake and not turn to a life of crime.
@GeteMachine
2 жыл бұрын
In SR1, they were anti-heroic vigilantes who wanted to be a gang to keep out other gangs and control the city for Julius' community protection. SR2 the characters were anti-villains where the Boss didnt care about anything but again just taking over the city and restoring the street cred for the Saints, and only helped people that could pay them, and pretty much didnt care about society because of the aded satire, while Shaundi was pretty much the commentary. By SRTT ws when the characters were emphasized to be more like social rebels because of the celebrity things, and the tone of the game was more about the characters enjoying how little they cared about society through mayhem they had fun doing, using tanks or partying and fighting the government. SRIV, don't care. They changed the Saints into just heroes for humanity out of no where. And the reboot, they're supposed to be good guys, but not really anti-heroes because the game limits what you used to be able to do, and pretty much has a hypocritical theme of fighting capitalism with capitalism.
@simoneidson21
2 жыл бұрын
Well, capitalism causes crime. No one would commit crime if people were provided the most basic everyday shit
@simoneidson21
2 жыл бұрын
@@GeteMachine you did the meme “we should improve society somewhat”
@Ben92-z80
Жыл бұрын
Volition seemed like they didn't even care about this game along with attacking the fans who criticized the game.
@fredo3161
2 жыл бұрын
So if they're fixing it later, why should anyone buy now? This whole philosophy hurts game sales and game development. How's about I wait a couple years until it's "fixed" and buy it used for $15 instead of $60 upfront? What incentive is there to pay more NOW for a bad product rather than later for a better one? I haven't bought Cyberpunk for this exact reason, and I may never buy it.
@TheChosenMoose01
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, most people will buy games ASAP so they can play it or review it.
@CommDante
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheChosenMoose01 At least reviewers get something out of it, either new subs, fun trash talking how bad it is when live or some cash to pay for the game etc. I can understand that. I can't even remember the last western 'AAA' game I played in the first month, let alone pre-order! I do remember downloading the Andromeda demo and meanwhile watching reviews. Didn't even let the demo finish downloading. I'm glad my old GFX card was way too old to play Cyberpunk smoothly at decent graphics, else I would've pre-ordered it. Witcher 3 was such a delightful game. That sure woke me up!
@qwqwqwqw99
2 жыл бұрын
I finally tried Cyberpunk and it's in a pretty decent state now. It doesn't live up to the pre release hype but it's a fun game on it's own merit.
@fredo3161
2 жыл бұрын
@@qwqwqwqw99 Yeah I'm looking forward to finally playing it after that Phantom update comes out. It pays to wait.
@badcommentbot8349
2 жыл бұрын
I'm only paying 5 bucks for this trash after/if it's ever "fixed" that is
@halla9538
2 жыл бұрын
21:37 had me dying. The way he turns the camera around and the traffic just vanished into the shadow realm followed by a eagles scream. LMAO
@Sanguivore
2 жыл бұрын
That eagle was so perfectly timed.
@WilbertBeltman
2 жыл бұрын
I found it odd that taking over the city isn't tied to the story at all, I barely did any story content yet, did nearly all the side content and now my map is almost entireley purple, just like that
@DrippleDragon
2 жыл бұрын
I won’t front them on that one, just because it’s supposed to be the start of the Saints, establishing a proper name and rep would come first, then taking over later, it’s just their plot in general is fucking awful, it’s all over the place, it doesn’t even explain why there are separate gangs or in depth about them, it goes from sci-fi all out action to comedic and not serious at all, and the objective isn’t too clear, these devs just suck and should’ve listened to the fan base
@RenegadeSpider2
2 жыл бұрын
@@DrippleDragon I will front of them on that one, remember saints row 2? we had missions that weren't connected to the story, "strongholds" you took them out to take a turf, but we also had story tied turf, Not to mention once you kill a gang leader...nothing really happens, it makes almost no difference, the gang still wonders around even after you take the turf from them, what ever happened to taking the gangs turf, killing all the leaders and the gang falls apart after killing almost all of them?
@nostalgiaholic4874
2 жыл бұрын
How were the strong holds not connected to story? There were mandatory to finish the gang off and actually make sense as a strong hold could be “destroy this drug lab Therefor reducing the gangs income” and yea of course they still walk around until you take over all the areas. The saints did the same when their leader was killed
@RenegadeSpider2
2 жыл бұрын
@@nostalgiaholic4874 you misunderstand by "story tied" meaning, you can't take that turf at all unless you do a story mission, strongholds unlocked by doing story missions, but they themselves were not full of cutscene story filled.
@zombi2896
2 жыл бұрын
That was the same in 3 and 4 though
@t-wrecks9866
2 жыл бұрын
This was made for people who aren't going to play not only this game but videogames in general.
@DetectiveJones
Жыл бұрын
My favorite was Saints Row 2, as from my memory it had a really cool and somewhat serious story, with enough funny moments and fun gameplay to avoid feeling like a chore to play, as if it were to be too realistic, while not going super hardcore into wild looney tunes heists like GTA 5. Saints Row 3 started getting too silly for me and Saints Row 4 just feels like GTA with mods, fun for a bit, but if the jokes don't land, or after they get old it just loses most of its value.
@fluttzkrieg4392
2 жыл бұрын
I love when games pander to a group of people that only ever even acknowledge the existence of video games when they want to say how -ist this or -ism that they are.
@ratamahatta5306
2 жыл бұрын
"Anita Sarkeesian was right" - Volition
@judgeprime3730
2 жыл бұрын
@@ratamahatta5306 LOL that pretty much sums it up.
@hdawglion718
2 жыл бұрын
And where exactly is the pandering in the game?
@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852
2 жыл бұрын
@@hdawglion718 The entire game!
@hdawglion718
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852 how exactly?
@russellpuff1996
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who played a little bit of 2, all of 3 and 4, then played this reboot trash, I decided to go and play SR1 for the first time, and already I'm having more fun in the first couple of hours than I have the entire reboot. I'm looking forward to getting to SR2 and completing it. I never saw that bartender as human shield scene before and that already became more memorable than whatever happened in the reboot.
@mrsantoro8306
Жыл бұрын
I’ve played them all, the series went downhill after the second one.
@stonekidman2306
2 жыл бұрын
Profanity used as a punchline is basically the Deadpool movie
@igrvks
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% certain the laughably easy difficulty was a intentional design choice to be "more inclusive" to less inclined players.
@KudoRedfox
2 жыл бұрын
Or they think their playerbase is that stupid
@jameskirby5104
2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading some interviews with volition during the pre release cycle, specifically regarding the new tone and direction they were taking it in, waffling on about all the new stories and characters they could create with their new outlook/approach, it was very strange as nothing they were talking about seemed to stack with the gameplay they were showing, honestly sounded a bit like religious converts extolling the virtues of “ finding the way “ They fact that they’re fighting the critical and general fan response to their game really shows how unflinchingly zealous a lot of modern game devs have become, “ don’t like it ? “ bigot, sexist, racist, racist, nazi … 🙄 Sorry guys, your game is shit, and your company’s p.r/marketing team put the nails in your coffin, stop blaming gamers for not liking your diversity addled, inclusivity including mediocre rubbish 👎
@Jim87_36
2 жыл бұрын
It's not that's "diverse" but it's the wrong kind of "diverse." It's ticking a box and not actually being about the charger who happens to be "diverse"
@lycanwarrior2137
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot 'white supreeeemiss' lol.
@rgonzalez5044
2 жыл бұрын
Its hard to know who to listen to when a lot of gamers are those things you named. Look at tlou 2, a lot of people bring up politics when hating on that game lol
@thisdude9363
2 жыл бұрын
@@rgonzalez5044 And 100% of leftists are all of those things, as is historically the case with people constantly projecting and inserting themselves into other people's business. Your point?
@rgonzalez5044
2 жыл бұрын
@@thisdude9363 100%? That's extreme. You ever heard of bill burr? Youre somone who would be made fun of 😂
@Siah_hell
Жыл бұрын
when the trailer dropped i was on the fence until i saw healthbars on the AI basically killed all my optimism edit: also when they decided to make takedowns their exclusive ultimate
@an-animal-lover
Жыл бұрын
Indeed. With health bars come sponginess, and the unrealistic damage that comes with that. A headshot, what's that? He's still got a health bars so he's good
@DeadPhoenix86DP
2 жыл бұрын
This game was Dead on Arrival.
@Gilk99
2 жыл бұрын
8:08 I loved the humor of Saints Row 1 and 2, the jokes weren't forced and there's a lot of casual moments that really make me laugh.
@arthurpendragon6563
2 жыл бұрын
Like you said Gat or the Boss would bully these guys and toss them off a roof, I personally think they would and Gat and/or the Boss could take on these four for simply taking their name without any remorse or mercy. Heck they would probably do it simply because it's fun, Gat's kill count was 300+ at the start of Saints 2 and he didn't feel bad or guilt for any of them
@pcport2698
Жыл бұрын
Those are just the kills he was CONVICTED for, dude.
@arthurpendragon6563
Жыл бұрын
@@pcport2698 give or take a few victims
@MistahJay7
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone actually appreciate SR3 and 4 even though I prefer 2. I love all of them but I always viewed 3 and 4 as the Robot Chicken of Video games. Hell I'm replaying 3 right now for the thousandth time. This new reboot looks like Disney Row which is the complete opposite of what the series was and that's my biggest problem with it without even playing it.
@hiddenshadow2105
2 жыл бұрын
I like both SR4 and SR2 but for widely different reasons. Started with SR4, loved it, went back to see who those people in SR4 were, was floored by SR2 as well.
@southpaw5504
2 жыл бұрын
You riding with me, our saints row 2 gang will smoke these reboots, like the rollers.
@BronaKS
2 жыл бұрын
@@southpaw5504 I was holding on to the massive copium of the slight chance that we would see gat appear out of nowhere and absolutely blow their brains out with a shotgun one handed until I saw actual story gameplay (aka further than the first 2 hours lol)
@mr.voidout4739
2 жыл бұрын
I miss the days when devs had to get it right the first time. Patching has made devs lazy. I've gotten bugs left and right that range from goofy to (mostly) game-breaking. I've never had to reset a game to get things to work. I have to restart SR multiple times a session. Then I'll go and watch others' experiences and see even more bugs I haven't gotten yet.
@xeno4693
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@nyxnightmare3542
2 жыл бұрын
I don't. Because they never were right to the first time. Nearly every game from the 2000s has massive bugs and broken code. Having a live game means the bugs can actually be fixed. The issue isn't live gaming. The issue is devs being too lazy to even use live gaming. Their idea of an update is doing nothing to fix the actual problems. They're the same as EA. EA is an absolute garbage company today, because they're too lazy to understand live gaming means you have to still fix bugs, not throw in new objects in your Sims games. It means fixing the problems you can because you are actually able to do so, not pretending they never exist. Saints Row 5 devs are doing exactly what EA is, and that is why their live gaming is failing. WoW is live gaming, and look at it today. It's still the most massive MMORPG of all time, and still getting new players all of the time from the newer generation.
@mclovin2408
2 жыл бұрын
@@nyxnightmare3542 I’m so tired of disconnected ignorant money hungry devs ruining franchises just to make a quick buck, battlefield is ruined, Minecraft has censorship, GTA is still living in the past due to greedy developers milking the franchise, and now saints row?! It’s not even confined to games, take Star Wars for example Disney does the same thing, and when we the fans criticize them we are verbally attacked by being called things like racist or sexist, I’m so tired of this stupid crap. How are these people getting away with hijacking our favorite franchises and throwing them in the dumpster? Every one of these now leave a sour taste in my mouth instead of just remaining dead.
@-pressxtostart-
2 жыл бұрын
Preordering allows devs to be lazy, youve already made them a profit, why wait to release it?
@QuadMachine09
Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget how grim saints row 2 gets at numerous times in the story. It clashed at the goofy nature of the humor but it clashed in a way that brought more attention at how ruthless your character and the rival characters are. Memorable moments like the monster truck scene and fireworks remain tattooed in my memory because they were PHENOMENAL moments
@eternalmaker7827
2 жыл бұрын
Saints row was about being involved with a gang and the consequences of being in them, The new saints row is just about becoming your own boss
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and none of the realistic implications of the threat that life style brings, like the gang being hauled off to a max security prison pending an execution by death for all the damage and loss of life.
@eternalmaker7827
2 жыл бұрын
@@shcdemolisher It also let you know if you choose to choose that life style only two things will happen either you die are you go to prison , I would have loved to see a saint row 2 remaster.
@TheShinyShow
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned Watchdogs 2, that's exactly what I thought of seeing and hearing these characters. I haven't played either game, but I don't see who the creators of those characters thought would like them.
@SLRModShop
2 жыл бұрын
WatchDogs 2's cast is unbearable. If you can get paid a living wage to pay it, I still wouldn't recommend it.
@elitereptilian200
2 жыл бұрын
Watchdogs 2 is actually a fun game.. yeah the characters are nothing to write home about but the gameplay and how you go about it is really fun..
@TheShinyShow
2 жыл бұрын
@@elitereptilian200 yeah I've not played it so it could be great, I'm just talking first impression of the characters and their team banter doesn't appeal at all to me
@NinjapowerMS
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty funny that the WD 2 cast made people love a boring character like Aiden.
@aweigh1010
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyShow The gameplay is shit, don't listen to that guy. There is nothing redeeming about Watchdogs2.
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince
2 жыл бұрын
As far as the original Saint's Row games go, I personally think 2 is the best game, but 3 is the most fun to play. I really love 4 as well, but I don't compare it to the first 3 because the Super Power gameplay make it feel different enough that I consider it a completely different sub-genre of open world sandbox games, more in line with games like Infamous or Prototype.
@RenegadeSpider2
2 жыл бұрын
I'd put saints row 4 more in line with Crackdown than infamous or prototype
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince
2 жыл бұрын
@@RenegadeSpider2 I didn't make that comparison because SR4 is identical to those games, I did it because they're all open world sandbox games where you're given superpowers and you can run amok in a densely populated city. I wasn't directly comparing it to Infamous or Prototype, I was comparing it to their sub-genre of open world games because SR4 isn't an open world cime sim sandbox like SR1 through SR3 were. Yeah, SR4 is probably more similar to Crackdown, but Crackdown is also a super hero open world sandbox, so it fits the same sub-genre of games that SR4 is in. I just didn't use Crackdown because I've never played it, and I feel like it's a more obscure title than the examples I used.
@RenegadeSpider2
2 жыл бұрын
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince you should play crackdown 1 and 2. They really are fine Games too
@WickedFamix
2 жыл бұрын
In response to the "they'll patch it later" crowd, they said they'd do the same with SRTT:R. I've only seen one patch for the game in my entire time owning it since launch, and it didn't fix shit.
@TheMeritCoba
2 жыл бұрын
I think the worst side-quest was Heist. it is part of Let's pretend venture that was all about dressing up. So I was actually dressed up in a beerbottle outfit expecting I was going to do rob a place and then get away. Nope: your mission is to take some pictures, then others do the robbery and your only task is to drive the getaway car.
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
So you got excited to do what would've been a round of Payday, and instead you are the boring getaway driver instead of the looters? Wow!!! That is impressive at failing expectations, game! Total honesty I respect payday, but never played it. So I can understand where you are coming from!
@VonBoche
2 жыл бұрын
On the plus side... nobody is suprised ! It looked toothless and uninspired from the moment it was unveiled.
@fionna_cool_girl
2 жыл бұрын
This game just makes me miss Johnny and the gang... Why....why did they do this??? And as Patrick says: WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!
@Cautious_Gamer
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I'll just keep playing Saints Row 2, Sleeping Dogs and GTA IV if I want to play actually good open world games.
@morkgin2459
2 жыл бұрын
The best open world trios. But you can add Mafia 2 as well.
@Samm815
2 жыл бұрын
@@morkgin2459 Mafia 2 isn't open world.
@morkgin2459
2 жыл бұрын
@@Samm815 why?
@Samm815
2 жыл бұрын
@@morkgin2459 It does have an open world, but you always have to drive to the next mission area. It's the equivalent of always being on a mission in GTA.
@morkgin2459
2 жыл бұрын
@@Samm815 what about Mafia remake?
@ocha-time
2 жыл бұрын
9:43 reminds me a lot of how they decided to write Faye Valentine in the Live-Action Cowboy Bebop. Let's turn a strong sarcastic character into someone who cusses more than a sailor, that's Cowboy Bebop humor right? That's so Faye. Remember when she talked about cock and balls nonstop? That's so lol random, this is good writing, we're very proud of this. Wait, what do you mean cancelled? It hasn't even been a month!
@jayzz911
2 жыл бұрын
holy shit, the cars dissapearing and fading out at a distance is a bug i had in saints row 3 and 4. indeed super annoying in insurance fraud.
@BWMagus
2 жыл бұрын
It could happen in 3 and 4 due to hardware limitations; it didn't only happen in insurance fraud. People vanished too. But not like this.
@Dr.Strangelewd
2 жыл бұрын
All they had to do was pander to fans of either SR2 or SR4. Yet once again they tried to reinvent the wheel and appeal to no one. Also, I feel that it's not that the characters have zero charisma because they're not fleshed out properly, they were just written like the target audience of the game - Twitter users who think that listing mental issues they have and pronouns they prefer to use make them an interesting and memorable person.
@dinglebingus2625
2 жыл бұрын
4 is boneless prototype, you should correct that to 3.
@fearlessfosdick160
2 жыл бұрын
Thing is that the issue is probably that the old devs left and the gen z'ers that came in behind them simply have no concept of creativity. From start to finish, the game is geared toward their restrictive sensibilities, which is a great way to develop a flop.
@bowzer900
2 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is what the devs think about the game now because when the first trailer came out 99% the like and dislikes were dislikes and 1% were like. Anyone that left comment saying how they don't the game and what they should change the dev pretty much said they were brain dead or only had 1 brain cell even if they were fan and they better anyone even tho they the fans are buying the game and not them. When the first trailer came out I knew it was going be trash but I still bought hope it wasn't going be a let down but I was wrong and thought I wasted my money.
@strydom666
2 жыл бұрын
It's really saddening, I have so many fond memories of Saints Row and they just sterilized the franchise now and spit on its legacy.
@DagothDaddy
2 жыл бұрын
Alot of modern writers especially those that got started writing fanfiction on Tumblr forget that you need to make the reader/player like your characters. You can't just go "Oh like them so other people will."
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!! It doesn't work like they think it will, and these rookie writers would've never gotten a writing position if they did this back in the early 2000's! You know, back when QUALITY was STANDARD!
@TheChosenMoose01
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part with SR being woke is that the people who the developer was trying to cater to, are most likely not going to play the game.
@Chris47629
2 жыл бұрын
Woke isn’t a thing
@Underground3
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris47629 We're literally looking at it.
@Chris47629
2 жыл бұрын
@@Underground3 no that’s just what wanna be gamers like the quartering says when they don’t get their way
@turtlesarefantastic9620
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris47629 fucking thank you
@reginaldlucky1056
2 жыл бұрын
Lol look you said woke and someone showed up to argue about the word “woke” You could write a novel and have the word woke in there once. They would find it and come argue
@daemonisedone4256
2 жыл бұрын
the dialogue is what got me as someone who grew up in a family that was not exactly law abiding on my fathers side... it wasnt even remotely credible.
@TheLazyMan94
2 жыл бұрын
"Written either by or for Twitter." You just summed up the modern gaming industry in a nutshell.
@DioTheGreatOne
2 жыл бұрын
*modern EVERYTHING industry in a nutshell
@shcdemolisher
2 жыл бұрын
@@DioTheGreatOne Yeah and we need to make it NOT BE THAT anymore!!!
@tylertheguy3160
2 жыл бұрын
This game is the cringiest fucking thing I've seen in a while. It is mind boggling how anyone at any point thought this was a good idea.
@kimbercustompro1911
2 жыл бұрын
I found insurance fraud in this game to be nearly impossible due to the fact that as soon as you initiate the side activity all traffic seems to randomly disappear from the world and it doesn't come back until the timer runs out and the game loads out of the activity.
@MrEMeatshield
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the "Fix it later" mentality is already too ingrained into the gamer's mind these days. Devs already know that enough people will give that excuse, and will defend a buggy launch game from those who aren't fine with it. That's why we get things like Fallout 76 and this.
@irishbattletoster9265
2 жыл бұрын
I already see people calling cyberpunk 2077 """""underrated"""""
@7shinta7
2 жыл бұрын
@@irishbattletoster9265 To be fair, Cyberpunk at least had an engaging story and interesting characters. It was far from perfect but decently playable on PC. Of course it suffered from the huge hype they built up around it and failed to live up to the expectations. But at least CD Project put in the work to improve the game even after the sales were done. Seems like they're now trying to repair their reputation. And if they understand that their next game better be properly finished at the release day then it's a win in my book.
@harshilpatel5950
2 жыл бұрын
kratos:it is not our concern boy😂😂
@skateboardinguitaris
2 жыл бұрын
Damn 20 hours???? I applaud anyone who even spent more than 2 hours with this game
@LukeyD88
9 ай бұрын
I miss the 90's-2000's when game devs actually put work in and made sure games were released without faults.
@garibaldibritann1240
Ай бұрын
To be fair though they are games within the era thet released unfinished so it's not always sunshines and kittens. But i agree those kind of phenomenon are rarity within that era
@LukeyD88
Ай бұрын
@@garibaldibritann1240 that’s very true, we had some weird and wonderful unfinished games. I guess I’m just nostalgic for games of generations past. Or maybe the cringe Saints Row reboot is just a god-awful game.
@garibaldibritann1240
Ай бұрын
@@LukeyD88 Yup, they're some bad, unfinished games from 90's to 2000's like Sonic The Hedgehog reboot, Action 52, BUbsy 3D and Daikatana. But hey at least Daikatana is the best of the worst of the list i've mentioned before
@edwin4625
2 жыл бұрын
The game has a 3.8 rating on the official Epic Store front. BUT, the stars beside the 3.8 is a 5 out of 5 stars. They're protecting it.
@javastwel
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using epic...lol
@blissface
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else kinda scared for the next GTA? I don’t think R* will change their humor to the same lengths that the developers did for the SR, but at this point expecting a humorous, fun, worthwhile single player experience seems shaky at best. Great review as always, think I’m gonna check out your VODs for this stinker lol
@TheChosenMoose01
2 жыл бұрын
From all the rumors spread, they were apparently going to remove offensive jokes, so they don't offend anyone......In a game where you can murder people.
@markmclean8858
2 жыл бұрын
You should be scared shitless for GTA 6. They've revamped the entire work culture at Rockstar.
@blissface
2 жыл бұрын
@@markmclean8858 Yea, at this point I’m expecting the game to be a short intro to their next iteration of GTA Online. Meh.
@empathetic4100
2 жыл бұрын
GTA 6? That’s never gonna happen, we’re gonna get a gta 5 remake at this point as it been released so many times haha
@nostalgiaholic4874
2 жыл бұрын
Yea I don't even give a crap about GTA VI...... never thought I'd saw that in my life. Maybe mafia 4 will take the thrown, they've got a chance any way. SR blew its chance big style
@1skrmsp1
2 жыл бұрын
What do you expect when people who grew up on thier parent's credit card and the hardest hardship they faced was college final exams writes for these entertainments through industry connection. This is the best attempt by the narcissist class who led luxurious, ingratful life for 20+ years, trying to be "relatable"
@yurriaanvanduyn
2 жыл бұрын
This game has all the issues of all media of [current year]: hiring to check boxes gives products to check boxes which appeal to checkbox audiences that doesn't exist.
@Kamylospl
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure any saints row fan myself included after waiting what was it something 10 years? For a new game to continue with the story and saw this felt more like watching a corpse of what they once loved drag itself thru shit and ask for a hug
@naomidierckx5467
2 жыл бұрын
oh dear christ, you're the second reviewer I've seen with that super super final boss Yee-Haw glitch.
@roshan5826
2 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when something making fun of going woke goes woke.
@cortepapel5706
2 жыл бұрын
That eagle sound when the cars disappeared for like the third time was so perfect lmao
@theplagueman1804
2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing about the driving, there is no weight to it. Literally, you can drive into and pile 5 vehicles (trucks included) infront of you and it will still push them forward with the same momentum as if you had 1 car infront of you. (Only learnt this because pyrocynical tried the game for a couple of hours on stream about a week ago, so it shouldnt be patched yet)
@Nada-fj8ij
2 жыл бұрын
You're boss in the saints row reboot looks like he's dressed for a parent teacher conference
@KypForPresident
2 жыл бұрын
I adore Saints Row 3. Its one of my absolute favorite games, especially in Co-op. it was so wonderfully over the top and funny. 2 and 4 where also good, so I was kind of excited for the new one. And every bit of marketing made me more nervous. I'm so glad I didn't preorder this. I'll just play the Saints Row 3 Remake again and pretend this game never happened.
@S_047
2 жыл бұрын
Might as well do the same. Albiet I always make a British Boss with a buzz cut
@oxybe
2 жыл бұрын
When you mentionned the old SR crew bullying the new one that would be a great fakeout. You create your GenZ wannabe thug who create the "Saints" and partway through the first act, after like 2-3 missions, the old crew just stomps on in, cleans house and you hear Johnny Gat yell : "Hey Boss!" and you get thrown into ANOTHER character creator.
@nelsonsmith2917
2 жыл бұрын
I’ll answer your question: this was made by devs who are millennials afraid to admit they are going to be forty in a few years so they decide to make terrible dialogue for this type of games, producers who like cashing in on franchise titles no matter what, and directors who don’t like any amount of criticism that doesn’t benefit them
@uncooked_ham
2 жыл бұрын
Nah.
@nelsonsmith2917
2 жыл бұрын
@@uncooked_ham what do you mean “nah”
@evelghostrider
2 жыл бұрын
It was made by young people who were taught finishing last is just as super as the top 3 in school..... 🤦♂️
@Tickerchicken
2 жыл бұрын
@@evelghostrider it wasn’t ‘young people’ don’t talk like the characters in this
@driftitlikeyouownit
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tickerchicken ok young douce bags who only want to be called a "good person" even though they are 💩
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