9 years and still going strong Sean :) Very relaxing delivery 😌
@luxsabre
4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, so simple and seems safe with the header tank. I’ve been looking for a simple set up just like this but haven’t found anything else anywhere at all. Great. 👍
@lengthmuldoon
9 жыл бұрын
You're Sean Bean aren't ya?
@nixonsmateruby1
Жыл бұрын
Can this be done in a 1930s house by just connecting to a radiator and the hot water will find its way around the other radiators, and just have the header tank I'm the loft?
@martinevandeijssel7371
Жыл бұрын
Great system ! I'm trying to install exactly the same on my boat... have an important question : does the return pipe need to be higher or same level as the return on the stove ? I have to cross a hallway, the hotwater can run to the ceiling, but can I place the return/coldwater pipe on the floor and then up to the stove again ?
@keithtomey5046
Жыл бұрын
Probably not, without a pump that is. (Dot)
@biggerhouse
11 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. Does having a back boiler significantly change the amount of heat the actual stove gives off? Cheers! Stephen
@keithtomey5046
Жыл бұрын
That's the idea - to spread the heat to other areas. Wood-burning stoves otherwise heat their own specific locality too much, especially if they're positioned (as they - strangely - often are) at the very front of the boat. (Dot)
@MrMultiH
5 жыл бұрын
Nice system, sized pretty much spot on if you've got a delta of 30 deg across the rad
@jbubble1677
11 жыл бұрын
Agreed, good vid. You will lose heat from the stove, the more rads, the more heat loss. It also takes longer for the stove to reach temp; a good chimney is a must. Think about how may rads you intend to heat and choose the right size stove. Better to have a big stove running in range than a smaller one running flat out. If you do have a few rads, then you need a good sized header-tank; a mains ball-cock would be a good idea to avoid evaporation boil dry incidents.
@artisansportsman8950
6 жыл бұрын
Header tank is there to boil over and set fire to the electrics underneath it hope your insured.
@frankw9836
2 жыл бұрын
i moved into an old house with an open fireplace. I've been told there is a "back boiler" which heats the water and radiators when the fire is lit . There is a switch which apparently pumps the hot water into the radiators ? The fire is lit i switch on the pump (i can hear bubbling noise) but no warm radiators or hot water . Can someone explain, why not ?
@767Lukasz
11 жыл бұрын
hello there did similar thing bought stove on ebay made in 1954 ideal domestic boiler got it running with 2radiators 145x45 cm and 160x45cm and my boiler is way to powerful for two rads ..nice soldering mate :) my system run by thermosyphoning aswell lovely kettle u used for header tank :) also need something like that
@johndaniei534
7 жыл бұрын
Lukasz Nolvak Lloyds and
@dazeyevans9093
5 жыл бұрын
Does the header tank have to be so close to the first radiator or can it be closer to the stove ? [we would like to hide it in the fireplace]
@keithcharman4133
5 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I know nothing about this subject. You said the valves on the radiator needed to be removed. Wouldn't the water just circulate through the header tank if that happened? Love the simplicity of the system and love the video.
@spencerwilton5831
5 жыл бұрын
The thermal syphon is not strong enough to create circulation in the header tank- if set up properly the feed from the header comes from the bottom of the tank, while the vent extends above the tank and then bends back around to end in the tank but above the water level. Any circulation up the vent would raise the water level fractionally, creating a pressure difference across the two pipes, which would of course be immediately balance out by gravity.
@stm4075
10 жыл бұрын
Hello ! At first, excuse me for my poor english... I'm planning to build a Tiny House with a main room and a little bedroom. I would love to use the Hobbit Stove boiler to heat a little radiator in the bedroom (max 3 meters away from the stove), but I don't know a lot about plumbing rules... Would it be as simple as a closed circuit between the stove and the radiator (I mean : a copper pipe going from the stove to the radiator and another one the way back) ? Or would I need a circulator / pump ? And what about an expansion vessel ? I assume this is necessary... Where should I place it ? Thank you very much for your help, and congratulations for your beautiful stoves ! :) Steve
@salamanderstoves2161
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve There is loads of information at www.salamanderstoves.com/docs/69/back_boiler_option/ The important thing is that the water system is designed in such a way that it is impossible to pressurise the system, even in the event of a power failure. Remember the fire cannot be turned off instantly, so you have to always keep the water flowing or it will boil. If in any doubt, seek advice from a professional plumber to make sure the system is safe.
@stm4075
10 жыл бұрын
John Salamander OK, thanks for this answer, I'll let you know when my Tiny is on its way...
@mattbrown1865
6 жыл бұрын
Very nice, you say you got about 1 foot rise for 8 foot virtual , rule of thumb I found is 1 foot rise for every 4 foot virtual. Needs more rise for max
@grahamhalson3073
7 жыл бұрын
ref the header tank ... won't your heat flow upwards towards it creating heat loss... I'm looking at doing something similar but with evacuated tubes so any info greatly appreciated
@MrMultiH
5 жыл бұрын
the header tank is not part of the circuit. besides, heat loss is thr primary objective ;)
@spencerwilton5831
5 жыл бұрын
graham halson you can't have circulation in a header tank, the feed comes from the bottom, the vent returns to the top but above the water level, thus water cannot thermally syphon around the loop. It does sometimes happen on badly designed or faulty pumped systems- a situation known as "pumping over" when the pump forces hot water up and out of the vent into the header tank. If your tank is in the loft you may not know about it until you go in the loft to find a steaming hot tank and dripping wet rafters. Often this trip is prompted by the large damp patches on your ceilings below...
@matthopkins3340
9 жыл бұрын
Back in the 1800's these systems were being ripped out of Victorian homes here in the UK because of the amount of people being scolded by boiling water from a pressurised system. On my stove (vid on here) i have added a shop bought pressure release valve, just for safety. I like the use of the copper kettle and fishing float. Nice looking stove ;-)
@MrMultiH
5 жыл бұрын
It's a vented system, hence the header tank. Not pressurised. In the 1800's steam heating systems were used and they did explode, replaced by vented systems as per vid.
@spencerwilton5831
5 жыл бұрын
Harry Hunt exactly. Vented systems were the norm for home central heating from its introduction in Victorian times right through to very recently- perhaps the 1980's or later. Only in the last couple of decades have pressurised systems become dominant in home heating. Personally I favour the old technology- no annoying pressure losses, very easy to add treatments, rarely fail, and most importantly easily compatible with solid fuel heating, unlike pressurised systems which need all sorts of complicated additional safety measures- there is a reason why few plumbers will install or work on an existing pressurised system with solid fuel heat.
@theoriginalmungaman
9 жыл бұрын
how is 66 deg to hot to put your hand on?
@salamanderstoves2161
9 жыл бұрын
theoriginalmungaman Hi, Thanks for watching the video. Sorry, didn't make it clear that it was 66 Deg Centigrade, which is about 151 deg Fahrenheit. It was pretty hot !!!!
@theoriginalmungaman
9 жыл бұрын
Salamander Stoves OK, that a little hot.
@stevel8430
8 жыл бұрын
centigrade not old money
@stepheneurosailor1623
9 ай бұрын
Great
@maxiks4796
7 жыл бұрын
are you gonna hide those pipes somehow?? looks very bad for me...
@putheflamesou
10 жыл бұрын
Can't own if in USA???
@salamanderstoves2161
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, see these contact details on the website www.salamanderstoves.com/docs/86/north_american_hobbits/
@salamanderstoves2161
10 жыл бұрын
putheflamesou These guys are our new distributors: Contact: @hobbits-in-north-america/
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