Kudos the the duo....Very thought provoking and Informative discussion.
@prithviraj7436
2 жыл бұрын
सर फैज़ान जी, खुर्शीद जी आप दोनों की गुफ्तगु बहुत ही marvolous थी, में आपका दिल की गहराई से बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद करता हूं! में फैजान सर की सभी वीडियो देखता हूं सर बहुत ही सरल भाषा में समझाते है ! में दुबारा से साधुवाद देता हुं
@AjayYadav-km3jp
2 жыл бұрын
Apna Sahi naam likha Kar mulle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@lawlibertyandlife
2 жыл бұрын
Finally convinced by this video to purchase this book. Thankyou so much Professor Faizan sir and salman sir .
@thepacifier2293
2 жыл бұрын
I am honoured to witness two learned men in serious intellectual discussion.
@scorpiopanther2229
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot sir for your informative vedioes and interviews and Welcome to Salman Khurshid Sir.
@mohammadkhan7182
2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Faizan Saheb what is the basis of your statement that 'Mr. Salman Khursheed is a Muslim leader'. He is a Congress leader and not a Muslim leader.
@AjayYadav-km3jp
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA yeh sab ke sab atanki hai saale. 😂😂😂😂
@AbhinavSharma16
2 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse ! Muslim leaders are owaisi Azam and bukhari etc ... Not khurshid like others
@shauryamalik8473
2 жыл бұрын
Two very proud, accomplished and respected Indian Muslims, I might not agree on everything with them but still they are all of the above. They and their ilk have to lead the way in ensuring the prosperity of the Indian Muslim and the nation.
@mittemari
2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful way of explaining constitution and electoral mandate.one is generational and other one is incidental. Amazing use of language to explain the supremacy of constitution for a nation. Thank you sirs
@rku006
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@girdharrathi6728
2 жыл бұрын
@@rku006 ¹Q¹
@shaikhmujahed
2 жыл бұрын
Salman Khurshid Sir... Always Rock.
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Our indian governament is totally running on..ASTA... 👍. 🙏.. ❤️.. Good Luck..
@urdudepartmentofassamunive5251
2 жыл бұрын
بہت خوبصورت انٹرویو ہے۔میری طرف سے دلی مبارکباد فیضان صاحب آپ کو اور سلمان صاحب کو بھی۔میری آپ کے viewers سے درخواست ہے کہ وہ سلمان خورشید صاحب کا پلے بابر کی اولاد بھی ضرور پڑھیں ۔ان کو تاریخ کو دیکھنے کا ایک بہت عمدہ زاویہ ملے گا۔
@akbarrana9115
2 жыл бұрын
अपने प्यारे देश को नकली राष्ट्रवादी और दंगाई सोच से बचाने के लिए सभी सच्चे राष्ट्रवादियों को सामने आना चाहिए. जय हिंद
@ageless1003
2 жыл бұрын
सही कहा और ऐसी सोच को रखने वाले लोगों को भी सामने आना चाहिए । आपको भी धन्यवाद ।
@neutral258
2 жыл бұрын
जीवन के कीसी भी धर्मनिरपेक्ष तत्व का मुस्लिम समुदाय की राजनीति में कोई स्थान नहीं हैं, और वे मुस्लिम राजनितीक जमात के केवल एक ही सिद्धांत के सामने नतमस्तक होते हैं, जिसे मजहब कहाँ जाता हैं। -बाबासाहब अंबेडकर
@ashfakahemad4903
2 жыл бұрын
❤️Two legends in one Frame ❤️
@prataprane8994
2 жыл бұрын
One is a legend other is a hater
@manojjain6035
2 жыл бұрын
"Taking Bail Seriously " is also good book by Salman Khursid having collection of articles by legal eagles on the issue.
@yadunathyadav8580
2 жыл бұрын
Both of you are the great learned.We all enjoyed it.
@keshavkumar97251
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching us
@akrammajidkhan9860
2 жыл бұрын
Allah-Akbar !! Astaghfirullah !! Hindutva & Hinduism are the two faces of the same coin.
@neerajdeshpande3266
2 жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful discussion :-)
@nomanizhar9023
2 жыл бұрын
सच को सच कहने की ताक़त खुर्सिद में है ,,,
@pankajnavin2797
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA tujh mein or hidutavavadi soch k logo mein to bilkul nahi hai
@nomanizhar9023
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA झूठ के और मैल के पैदाइश सिर्फ तुम्हारे जैसा ढोंगी पंडित होता है।
@nomanizhar9023
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA तुम पूरा सुरा पढ़ लो उसके बाद समझा जाओ ।
@nomanizhar9023
2 жыл бұрын
33वे शूरे को पूरा पढ़ो सक्सेना आराम से समझ जाओ
@nomanizhar9023
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA तुम सुरा अजब की शादी किस्से किस्से होगा वो लिखा है इसमें तुम्हे क्या दर्द है ,,,तुम अपने आठ प्रकार के विवाहों का वर्णन करो ,,,
@mumtazahmadkhan4800
2 жыл бұрын
मैं जनाब सलमान खुर्शीद साहब से सहमत हूं और जनाब फैजान मुस्तफा साहब का शुक्रगुजार हूं कि आप इतनी अच्छी तरह इंटरव्यू से हम को अवगत कराया।
@rubikscube1419
2 жыл бұрын
Very intellectual people. Nice to hear them.
@neutral258
2 жыл бұрын
भारत में रहनेवाले मुसलमान भारत के संसाधनों और सुविधाओं का लाभ तो लेंगे पर वह भारत की तरक्की के लिए योगदान नहीं देंगे। इसका परिणाम यह होना हैं कि देश में तरक्की की गति बहोत ही धीमी होगी। - बाबासाहब अंबेडकर
@decodingoflaws.8376
2 жыл бұрын
Tere baap ne missile bnai thi ?
@haidarsiddiqui8253
2 жыл бұрын
Quotation me nam kiska diya hai ...!! 😂😂😂
@decodingoflaws.8376
2 жыл бұрын
@@aspirant8996 jiski vedio tu dekhra unka contribution dekhle ..... academic me ? Or na jane kitne aise vidwan desh me alg alg field me hasiyat ki mutabik yog Dan derahe hai....or jo bahr kam krre hai....vo bhi foreing exchange bdhane me madad krte hai......lekin tere jaise nadan ko kya maloom jo KZitem ki vedio dekh kr bda hua h
@pradyty
2 жыл бұрын
Islam ka parcham buland rahega 💪 Allah Hu akbar 💪Allah is supreme and he is the "only god" in the world. ❤
@franciscaphilip8584
2 жыл бұрын
Wisdom shines on both . Great discussion Hail legal profession.
@mohammedrafayquadri9065
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot sir very informative discussion
@ibrahimkhaleel6348
2 жыл бұрын
The Hindu demand was based on belief and the court has yielded, of course not with reference to belief, but the option to invoke 142 has the undercurrent of belief ONLY. The assertion of the S C was actually not kept in view while writing the judgment.
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Supreme court has given there verdict on Babri masjid totally base on Asta . 👍.. 🙏...
@asheesh...11
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@noirdezzir8424
2 жыл бұрын
बहुत ही शरीफ हैं सलमान खुर्शीद.. इनकी शराफत का ज़िक्र BBC News ने भी किया था... "Kejriwal can come to Farrukhabad but should keep in mind that he has to return too," he was filmed telling a meeting. Mr Khurshid said as the law minister, he had to "work with the pen. But I will also work with blood," he added.
@shaffiansari105
2 жыл бұрын
Salman sahab ki bahaduri ko Mai salam karta hun aaj ke daor men itni himmat har Kisi me nhi hai faizan sahab ko bhi salam Mai dua karta hun allah Aap dono ko salamat rakhe 👍
@najeeburrehman1872
2 жыл бұрын
Faizan sir ko mera Salam
@shyammohansharma8919
2 жыл бұрын
thank u faizan sir for bringing salman sir on utube!
@vs9324
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with whatever RSS / BJP says, whether on definition of Hindutva or otherwise, is that it is transactional. What they say today may not be valid tomorrow.
@dineshkumar-dx8fq
2 жыл бұрын
At least they can't raise a mob saying labbaik٫ lashkar n Nara e taqbir.
@500mmomentind.p5
2 жыл бұрын
@@dineshkumar-dx8fq but Mob are heard saying "Jai Shri Ram" "Vande matram" while lynching lower Varna Hindus and Muslims to death. Do you think radicals should stop using this slogan in Riots & while attacking school children?
@ahmadiiferoz8089
2 жыл бұрын
@@500mmomentind.p5 exactly.👍
@dineshkumar-dx8fq
2 жыл бұрын
@@500mmomentind.p5 I challenge u to raise a mob of 100 hindus chanting jai shree ram. U can't do that. Also 4-5 muslims who got lynched were either cattle thief, bike thief or had some other story behind them. Problem is that Salman Khurshid knows that he will not get killed even after abusing Hinduism. I guarantee u that no muslim has ever been killed just for insulting Hinduism and never he will.
@prataprane8994
2 жыл бұрын
@@500mmomentind.p5 ohh abhi Bangladesh ma hindus are brutally killed
@wajidghilman4539
2 жыл бұрын
A comprehensive discussion
@VedaCareNature
2 жыл бұрын
Sir, minority should be redefined. What is your opinion regarding uniform civil code.
@MrPitch804
2 жыл бұрын
He's made a video on UCC you can check
@shazafkhan2024
2 жыл бұрын
i can agree with *common civil code* not uniform civil code
@VedaCareNature
2 жыл бұрын
@@shazafkhan2024 there is no difference in common and uniform
@shazafkhan2024
2 жыл бұрын
@@VedaCareNature from legal point of view there is difference
@mittemari
2 жыл бұрын
As long as it is not driven by religion. Since for people like me who doens't beleive in any religion (agnostic) we should be able to live our lives.
@VivekSingh-xc1cf
2 жыл бұрын
thanks
@mahammadsajid4810
2 жыл бұрын
Owo what a amazing conversation.
@raushanara5650
2 жыл бұрын
।हमतौजातेहिं।नहिंह हूवाकिया।सलमान खान भाई साहब बारेम।।ओर।ऐसातौहमैसा।हताहिरताहे।ईसलामिलोगोकै।साथ।हमऐक।मोवाईलचलातेहें।।ऊंगली ।उठाताहेहमै।दूखिहोनानहिंह।हमकमिकियाहे।वबतानाचाहाऐय।।अस्सलामालेकूम रहमतूलाहेबरकातहू मूबारकबाद आपदोनो।सर।बधाई ऐवोम सूभकामणाऐ नवषकार ।
@neutral258
2 жыл бұрын
एक मुसलमान की सोच में मुस्लिम देशों का स्थान पहला हैं तथा भारत का स्थान दुसरा हैं। - बाबासाहब अंबेडकर
@SFH372
2 жыл бұрын
Ye kathan sahi nahi hai agar ambedkar ne kaha hai Kisi bhi musalman ke liye apna mulk pehle hai. Muslim desh kuchh bh nahi hai. Main ne Islam se yahi jana hai. Ye kewal propaganda hai ki musalman muslim country ka support kartey hai. Aisa nahi hai. Saccha musalman wahi ho sakta hai jo apne mulk se Muhabbat kare.
@AjayYadav-km3jp
2 жыл бұрын
@@SFH372 kyun jhoot bolte ho 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@akbarrana9115
2 жыл бұрын
ये तुम्हारी सोच है, एक सच्चे हिन्दुस्तानी की नहीं. We're proud of our nation.
@neutral258
2 жыл бұрын
@@akbarrana9115 तुमने जो 'राना ' लगाके रखा हैं वह हटा दो सैय्यद या अंन्सार लगा दो फीर बत कर
@allno2849
2 жыл бұрын
@@AjayYadav-km3jp chal pagal
@faruqbadlani
2 жыл бұрын
Yeh, Insaaf ka qatl he.
@VedaCareNature
2 жыл бұрын
Faizan mustafaji, Call Dr. KK mohammad regarding ASI report in babri masjid case.
@v.m.khaleelurrahman7529
2 жыл бұрын
ایسا لگتا ہے کہ صرف اس چینل میں اس کتاب پر بحثُ ٹھیک طرح سے ہو رہی ہے اور ایک جملے کو لے کر جھگڑا نہیں یہ خوشی کی بات ہے ۔ فیضان صاحب نے ایک مثال دی ہے کہ چینل کس طرح ہونا چاہۓ شکریہ
@anilgautam9774
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice 👌👍🙏
@nelsondlima6924
2 жыл бұрын
Very very thanks sir.
@mdmushtakdandoti9553
2 жыл бұрын
Where is this book available in urdu
@emkiran
2 жыл бұрын
“Therefor I doubt not but, if it had been a thing contrary to any man’s right of dominion, or to the interest of men that have dominion, ‘that the three angles of a triangle should be equal to two angles of a square,’ that doctrine should have been, if not disputed, yet by the burning of all books of geometry suppressed, as far as he whom it concerned was able.”
@rishiraaj.580
2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful discussion 👍
@mdmushtakdandoti9553
2 жыл бұрын
Can traselet in Urdu this book sir
@izharkhan764
2 жыл бұрын
The discussion is good . All the heavy weights of Congress are good in literary, academic terms but when it comes to ground like booth management, interacting n dealing with masses on ground they seem to lack the required efforts, grip or convincing skills !
@ageless1003
2 жыл бұрын
Intellectualism is deliberately made the villan by main stream media and foolish common citizen of India believe them.
@lawyermkperwez6212
2 жыл бұрын
Ownership of disputed land should be on the basis basis of evidence or on the basis of Astha ?
@uditkishan9807
2 жыл бұрын
Faizan Mustafa sir ko Mera traf sae Salam hai . Jo ittna aacha legal web series chala rahe hai. Sir I requested ki ape" Justice judge" book ake bare Mae kuch batea.
@witnessacademy9435
2 жыл бұрын
intro... Wow... 👏 👏 👏 👏
@AbhinavSharma16
2 жыл бұрын
The indeed problem is you people never talk about Indology like ' Muslim Brotherhood' .....in which everything comes after Muslim nationality ..... language, country secularism , equality , Liberty justice ....everything . This is most of other non Muslims find people like Salaman - just hypocrite and one sided !
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Hamare Historians ne ye kaha ke ye masjid nahee the aur na usme kabhi Namaz nahee hue .. ⁉️..
@mkcon5838
2 жыл бұрын
Earthquakes, war destruction of any structure was not considered, why?
@ilyasym
2 жыл бұрын
The all ready consult any top lawyer be for destroyed mosq so the got Easy for verdict
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Jab wo masjid thi hi nahee aur us masjid me Namaz hue hi nahee to phir ye Supreme court ka faisala kaisa ke us masjid ki jaga kahee aur Dede gae kiun ⁉️..
@NavjotSingh-ou1xg
2 жыл бұрын
Great
@SS-mv2vr
2 жыл бұрын
Agar manushya aur manushtava mein farq kiya ja sakta ho toh Hindu aur Hindutva mein farq ki baat ho sakti hai...jub aisa karna mumkin nahi toh pure and simple ye sirf ek mischief hai
@henriquesombiga4338
2 жыл бұрын
Faizan, why do you call him ‘Sir’ ? You’re a vice chancellor! Have some dignity!
@raushanara5650
2 жыл бұрын
।कोंन सिबातौंसे।बिबातहूवाहें ।सर।सलमान खान भाई ।साहेब ।।अस्सलामालेकूम ।रहमतूलाहेबरकातहू मूबारकबाद ।खूरसिद।साहब।कांग्रेस ।।।
@VijaySingh-zp5ke
2 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure if it's optimism or naivety, (willful almost) of Salman Khurshid to even imagine that Ayodhya judgement won't generate a momentum that'll carry on to, or will potentially be taken mileage of, in further sites throwing this country to communal hounds! Like come on man.. who are we even kidding.
@neutral258
2 жыл бұрын
मुसलमानों की निष्ठा, जिस देश में रहते हैं, उसके प्रति नहीं होती बल्कि वह उस धार्मिक विश्वास पर निर्भर करती हैं जिसका की वे एक हिस्सा हैं जहां कहीं इस्लाम का शासन हैं वही उसका विश्वास है। -बाबासाहब अंबेडकर
@AmanYadav-tg7ny
2 жыл бұрын
Hinduism creates eagerness to separate. High caste hindu wants to exclude the Muslim from place and power,as they have done to lower class hindu. I was born hindu,but I shall not die a Hindu. - Bhimarao Ambedkar
@AmanYadav-tg7ny
2 жыл бұрын
@BRIJ SAXENA to modi se bol na pkde usko mjho kyu bol rha..itna nikkma h kya modi
@dineshkumar-dx8fq
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmanYadav-tg7ny still he didn't espouse Islam.
@AmanYadav-tg7ny
2 жыл бұрын
@@dineshkumar-dx8fq to kya kru gana gau
@dineshkumar-dx8fq
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmanYadav-tg7ny mosques were deliberately erected at kashi, mathura n Ayodhya, it was a direct assault on the psyche of infidels
@creativity2598
2 жыл бұрын
Bottom line jiski laathi uski bhains. Chaahe vo Mughal ho ya BJP
@kafiruddinmulhiddeen2386
2 жыл бұрын
Kashi Mathura Baki Hai. Muslims worked hard for freedom of Bharat from British and were paid handsomely with the territories of Pakistan and quiet acceptance of the genocide of Hindus there by Nehru. We don’t owe Muslims anything; time to take back Kashi and Mathura
@davidkrupadanam1179
2 жыл бұрын
Salman Khurshid didn't like the stand taken by Prof Faisan and blasted him on Ayodhya issues..... as per the book Sunrise over Ayodhya
“There’s no greater agony than bearing an untold story inside you” Mr Khurshed Salman let your book be a fiction admitted in your opening words of the discussion. Mr Faizan did’nt put this question to you directly but the ordinary readers like us will ask you why you didn’t tell us the truth nothing but truth. Further your involvement with Hindutwa was meaningless in an otherwise a secular book with secular ideals.
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Sree Ram being a son of a king ..How he born in that place not in his father's palace..can any body explain this..
@geetagiri4432
2 жыл бұрын
Many legal luminaries outside India must have wrote on the merits/demerits of Ayodhya Judgement. For true objective views, it has to be seen by an outsider. Can you discuss some such good writings.
@VijaySingh-zp5ke
2 жыл бұрын
what Justice Verma should've said - Hindutva is a way of life, for hindus. Just as Islam or sikhism is a way of life for muslims or sikhs, respectively. Way of life, just like any other aspect is subject to due restrictions.
@prataprane8994
2 жыл бұрын
Islam is more about one god which ever thing he say people do. Aisa too islam ko puri taraha sa touch kar raha hai loog quran pramote terrorism
@azibjaved4281
2 жыл бұрын
good intro
@md.alamgir7418
2 жыл бұрын
Jo bhi apane kaha sahi kaha
@yaseenraza7310
2 жыл бұрын
V tuff time
@kamilshaikh5818
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@pankajvani8521
2 жыл бұрын
इस्लामिक कट्टरता का जवाब है हिंदुत्व
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Ab inki hi hukumat hai jo Asta per chalarahe hai to janab. Kashi bhi inki hai..mathura bhi inhika hai... Taj Mahal o khutub minar bhi inhika hai ..Hamara kuch bhi nahee sab inhika ka ..Hamko koe eteraz nahee hai. ⁉️.. 🙏...
@IrfanKhan-gh9dk
2 жыл бұрын
Sir salman sahab se AMU ke minority status pr bhi baat ki jaye.
@munawarazad413
2 жыл бұрын
Supreme court ne sare saboot Sirf Muslims ke hi favore me the, qabool kya. Ek be waqoofi jaise point pe base kerna,, na insafi ka sauda hua. Ab ye bhi zaroori ho gya hai ke supreme court ke complete faile ko wahan display zaroori hai. Ta ke log janen.
@karanarjun2989
2 жыл бұрын
Gyanivapi mosque bhi dekhle jara Kitne Sharif the Muslim Samaj me ayega
@gauravsingh1608
2 жыл бұрын
This is how educated people talk.
@mirahmedalikhan7055
2 жыл бұрын
Yes they always hide the truth... 👍..
@ncerteducation1936
2 жыл бұрын
Bhai, ya koi mujhe bata sakta hai ke in tamam beshkimati masjidon ko muslim community es mai namaz kyu nahin padati/padati 2nd chanda ikatha kr k, govt/public se masjido k liye intzam kyu Nahi krti properly jo band padi hain, maintain bhi nahi ho rahi, inme imam kyu nahi rakha jata , kyu na zume zuma padaya jaaye fir regular kiya jaay aakhir kya wajah se, govt se kyu nahi maang ki jaati, bus log Allah se duaa karte hain, duaa ke saath saath kuwat bhi dikhni padegi Aakhir kis dharm ke ibadat khane itane behtreen hone k baad bhi taale lage hue hai kyu Ek vedio please bana kr youtub pr daale please Mustafa Bhai please aakhir kya hain ligalites kyu masjido pr taale hai, kyu aabad nahin hai
@TheUniverse1236
2 жыл бұрын
Faizaan bhai ne bokoharam vaale chapter par koi saval kyon nahi pucha. Strange
@shafiqkhan-yy8gv
2 жыл бұрын
If we r not diplomatic then it is defeat, if we r assessing a community or postponing this issue no harm to consider it as reconciliation. But finally it is true JIS KI LATHI OSKI BHAINS.
@jahirislam2909
2 жыл бұрын
Babri masjid ke ray masjid ke Faber ma hota khurshid saheb. Faizan saheb kaise hoti
@anuragankur7260
2 жыл бұрын
Kya pura judgment analysis hai ye book me??
@SAM-df1cc
2 жыл бұрын
Kanaiha Hindu hai Umar Khalid Muslim hai Isliye Kanaiha Jail ke bahar hai aur Umar Khalid Jail ke andar hai yahi Indian Courts ki sachayi hai.
@faruqbadlani
2 жыл бұрын
Zulm ko Khuda metayga.
@adityabanerjee7145
2 жыл бұрын
Babri Masjid finished Congress in UP
@shazafkhan2024
2 жыл бұрын
Ya
@nooraalam1014
2 жыл бұрын
Aap log qanoon ki kitni bhi tareef kar lijiye. Par .Us wakt ka CJI .bik gaye the ... faysle ke baad gogol. Total men party karte mile ..ye dikhata hai .ke dabao men diya faisla hai ...
@zahoorahmad4023
2 жыл бұрын
Supreme court ne galat fasla deyia aur muslmanoue per rss bjp key debawe meie zulum keyia woh masjid thee aur rehiey gee
@syedyousufali7905
2 жыл бұрын
Panchayat say kiya kaam le sakte
@prataprane8994
2 жыл бұрын
Kya babri masjid ma likhna gaya tha mandir ko tod ka vaha banaya hai too fir dusra kyu kara
@jahirislam2909
2 жыл бұрын
Up indian muslim kongrass per kohi ummid nahi rakhte
@jahirislam2909
2 жыл бұрын
Kongrass ko indian muslim mafi kaise kare babrimasjit ko mandir kardia muslim kongrass leder manleya
@reshu7860
2 жыл бұрын
Kitna galat hua...jis jahah 200 saal namaz pari gayi us jagah par murti puja hogi humesha....ye to muslim religious sentiments hurt karne wali baat huyi...hum ise maan kar sabar kar lete ky 200 saal main zameen ghoom gayi par us jagah to masjid thy...Ram ji ky janam bhumi zarur ghoom gayi hogi us jagah se hazaar saalo main vo jagah nahi bachi hogi...
@Understand8743
2 жыл бұрын
Jisko Jisko dekho muh utha kr Hindu Hinduism aur Hindutv pr gyan dene aa Jata hai..... HD hai doglapn ka
@ranjangupta6217
2 жыл бұрын
Bhagwan ram ka janam kaha hua tha aur babar ka janam kaha hua tha
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