I keep saying that I’ll start making shorter videos but get excited about the knives that are closely related in their function. Sorry about the 31-minute marathon here.
@airwolf2001
Ай бұрын
Don't ever worry about the length of your videos, honest information needs the details, facts and proof to make people know they're getting honest information. Short videos never show all the information and most of the important information. Thank you for your clarity!
@DocOnHoliday86
Ай бұрын
Keep on making the videos as long as you need to properly convey the info. We'll keep watching because there is a pause button and even fast forward for some. Many will watch the entire length 😂😊
@scuffedpixels
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx no worries! I still watched the whole thing. And then the first half again to make sure I caught everything hahaha.
@BladeWalker77
Ай бұрын
It is a pleasure to watch. you don't need to apologize. I appreciate the content of your channel a lot.
@Warsmith_Honsou
Ай бұрын
Personally, I love watching long videos. On the contrary, I don’t like it when the video is too short, of course taking into account the understanding of what I’m watching.
@kush662
Ай бұрын
Amazing corrosion test video as always. Loved that you added pm2 salt. I have a challenge for you. QUIET CARRY WAYPOINT! Vanax steel and maker promises to survive ocean environment. Really want to test that claim! Please!
@kathrynhorn8095
Ай бұрын
Spyderco has mentioned in some interview (its with one of the big retailers), that they have swapped the hardware in the salt knives to be corrosion proof as well. Regardless I am glad there is a channel that challenges that and shows that the things that companies states reflects what they do. Solid vid and wish you a good day.
@ThomasConnolly
Ай бұрын
I just got the newly released Spyderco UKPK in magnacut, and it's one of my all-time favorite knives. I love how lightweight and ergonomic the UKPK is. I also love how the UKPK is a non-locking knife, yet when its blade is opened, it has zero blade play👍 I can also flick the blade of the Spyderco UKPK open one handed😁
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
I’m wondering if the new Labour Government will be likely to increase or decrease the knife regulations in the UK? It is my expectation that the British people will soon be limited to carrying wooden blades only (like the ones provided on Lufthansa airlines with meals). Thoughts?
@ThomasConnolly
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I'm actually from the USA🇺🇸. I love the Spyderco UKPK because of its ergonomics and how lightweight it is. Both the LC200N and magnacut UKPK knives are made with FRN scales and have coated hardware/pocket clips, so they are virtually rust proof. The LC200N and magnacut UKPKs are good knives to carry this summer because where I live is been 90+ degree and extremely humid(swamp ass weather)🥵
@ix8750
Ай бұрын
@@ThomasConnolly what's the reason for loving a non locking knife? Not trying to tease I'm genuinely curious.
@ThomasConnolly
Ай бұрын
@ix8750 I've never liked the Spyderco Delica because it doesn't have a forward finger choil. Therefore, I don't find the Delica that comfortable/ergonomic for me. On the other hand, the Spyderco UKPK has a forward finger choil and a slightly different handle, so the UKPK is extremely comfortable in my hand. It's a non locking knife, which I usually don't like. But unlike most non locking knives, the Spyderco UKPK has no blade play when the blade is fully opened. I also prefer the wire deep carry pocket clip in the UKPK👍
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@ThomasConnolly I hear you! Looks like it’s a good knife but slip joint is not my go to choice as I live where almost all knives are legal.
@markcameroon6613
Ай бұрын
the native 5 salt by far lc200n
@EdwardViaTomato
Ай бұрын
My serrated LC200N Salt 2 is my current most carried. I'll probably get a magnacut Native 5 (for the shape), or PM3 (for the lock), but I'm not really in a rush.
@JedHead3409
26 күн бұрын
Another thing that surprised me the Spyderco Salt 2 in H2 is actually the edge retention. I believe it was in Blade HQ’s Blade Show 2024 Spyderco video where Eric Glesser himself said that the best edge retention out of any knife they have ever made is serrated H2. George was definitely shocked to hear it, and so was I. It’s all due to the balance between the steel and the serrations apparently. Regular straight edge H2 perform incredibly poorly, but decorations bumped it up to the best of all their knives. Kind of makes me wanna try out
@CuttingBoardRx
26 күн бұрын
@@JedHead3409 Did you watch the video that I posted on that exact topic? Edge on Salt: see how H2, LC200N and MagnaCut hold up to edge wear! Para 3, Salt 2 in the field kzitem.info/news/bejne/uo952Jpmfneekmk
@JedHead3409
26 күн бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I did not, but you bet I will be watching it for sure
@dramace11
Ай бұрын
Been using the salt para3 since it’s been out, fishing on the Atlantic Ocean. Amazing knife so far and very impressed with its corrosion resistance, edge retention, ease of use and capabilities. It’s seen all there is to see and looks good as day 1 out of the box.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@dramace11 Good to know!
@Sharpaholic-1
Ай бұрын
My Maxamet PM2 ran away and hid when I started watching this video...lol. The PM2 Salt stock G10 scales are probably my favorite of all. They are just the right amount of grippy without tearing up your hands or pockets...Great feel!
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@Sharpaholic-1 Lol 😂
@richardhenry1969
Ай бұрын
I lived in Florida in between the intercoastal waterway and the ocean. Went fishing and swimming all the time. My cheap budget knives all held up. I still carry my broken skull in xhp. I don't have a real need to spend the extra money for something that was never a problem. Out of all those knives im only interested in Hogue Deka. You make a amazing video. I love your testing these knives. Im really only commenting to help your algorithm. But being me i figured id let you know were i stand with this water series. I believe these are for people that don't want to do any maintenance.
@ix8750
Ай бұрын
I use a magnacut blade to frag corals because I need to fully submerge it in salt water daily, but I assume I'm one of the rarer use cases.
@TheWatcher60401
Ай бұрын
I have a native 5 salt that I used quite extensively and it was wet quite often and had no issues... until my colleftion grew and I put it away for about a year, when I took it out to maintain it had developed rust and corrosion in the jimping. Most of it cleaned away there are 3 or 4 small spots I can't get rid of. (Lc200n blade steel.)
@allanmiro3340
Ай бұрын
I like what you do, mate. However, watching your videos always makes me wonder if I brought the right pocket knife. This is not a bad thing. Your videos are very informative and relevant. I recently brought the Manix Salt and it came to me with cracked scales out of the box. I was so disappointed for a USA made spyderco. My other spyderco from Japan and Taiwan models were perfect out of the box. Anyway, in this video, I think Manix and Hogue are winners because the knife is ambidextrous. I like how fall shutty your Manix is, so now I am thinking of removing the washers from on mine.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
If you do remove the washers, make sure you tighten the pivot screw first and the stop pin screws first and pretty tightly. This will minimise any side to side wiggle.
@Superbus753
Ай бұрын
You could try to find some teflon washers to put into the manix. That should work really well for a salt knife
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@Superbus753 I actually tried to find the Teflon washers in this thickness, 010” but couldn’t. Lmk if you know a source!
@foome36
Ай бұрын
Just leaving this to get a notification in case there is a source
@Superbus753
Ай бұрын
@@foome36 i tryed to put a possible source but youtube makes it always disappear
@Superbus753
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx You might find what you search on the website of usaknifemaker
@Superbus753
Ай бұрын
@@foome36 usaknifemaker might have some
@marzcapone9939
Ай бұрын
Your tests are very thorough, with a very scientific un-biased approach. I don't live near the ocean, but I have been sweating on my pocket knives for years. I've had some spots show up on a few steels, K390 and ZDP-189. The 5th pocket on jeans stays wet during summer months, mix of sweat and lint, fingerprints and cardboard dust are my real world factors. I've noticed spots in the jimping myself, but a stiff nylon brush and some oil are enough to stop any real corrosion. Got a Native 5 in Magnacut in my pocket some days, I bet it won't have the same spots.
@mel87123
Ай бұрын
Fantastic video!
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@mel87123 thank you!
@floridaman727
Ай бұрын
The salt pm2 in my testing on the water is the clear winner. Like you said corrosion begins to appear where water pools and the coating definitely helps. Where the water pools will leave an accumulation of dried salt. I found just wiping it off removes any accumulation with nothing left behind.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@floridaman727 the coating played a visual trick on me: I think the salt crystals were partially imbedded in the coating’s porosity and formed a flat enough surface on top to create the refraction, which gave me these colours in the visible spectrum. And you are right: a pinch full of oil removed it without a trace.
@floridaman727
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx it is without a doubt the most corrosion resistant folder I’ve ever owned. Absolutely love it
@chriswebb3018
Ай бұрын
If I wanted my magnacut manix2 to be super corrosion resistant I'd buy nylon washers for it. It would also fill the gap by removing the original washers and keep dirt out of the pivot better.
@BladeWalker77
Ай бұрын
I'm also surprised by the fact that on the serrations, there is no sign of rust. If I remember correctly, Spyderco had to start using the h2 instead the h1 because the steel manufacturer stopped the production of H1 and started with the H2 I don't know why but it doesn'tseems an improvement. As for me, my favorite is probably the pm2 just because I always prefer to have steel liners. Even though I prefer the ball bearing lock to the compression lock, that in my personal experience creates an annoying hot spot, at least in my pm2 (I have the cruwear micarta version).
@LarryGanz
Ай бұрын
My Salt Para 3 is the easiest to deploy, followed by my Manix 2 Salt. My PM2 Salt also has a very tight action and is hard to open and close one handed. I'll likely rescale and tune the PM2 and not use it for water activities, and if getting wet will carry the other 2. My Para 3 is the lightest and most easily flickable and flicks closed just as fast, although I'm usually a bigger fan of the Manix 2 of any sort. My Salts will actually never see the exposure to salt-water like in your test, but rather maybe see fresh water in a standup paddle board or kayak or floating inner tube-like watercraft.
@jufuh1503
Ай бұрын
Personnaly, i always put some mineral oil (butcher block oil, food safe) in the pivot of my brass washer knives. I'm really curious about the impact it would have on corrosion resistance on the manix salt for exemple. Great work btw 👌
@Bostonshawn508
Ай бұрын
CB I don’t know your background but there is more to you than meets the eye I’m sure. Regarding the length of the videos, we will always watch and support you when you have the kind of in-depth analysis that you have and all the testing that you do. I did watch the video where Greg Medford was very annoyed at people who test knives that they buy and take them apart. But he’s on one side of a coin and we’re on the other side. We’re buying a product that they are saying is so superb and they are an extraordinary amount of money and they make accusations that we wanna make sure are accurate for the amount of money that we’re paying. If they send out a knife that has a bad bevel of course we’re going to be shocked and upset because he is on that Internet every day bragging about how good his knives are. so on the other side of the coin is where we sit, and he can understand that I would like to know what he spends his money on what he expects from his money that he spends.. would you get a good job on calling that out. Greg shouldn’t be so mad at you. He should be mad at the worker who didn’t do his job correctly never should he ever get upset at the customer for calling out a problem with his product comes out. Because of it happened once it’s gonna happen again and it’s happened before I’m sure but he would rather you call him and keep it on the down low then let anybody else know that these things happen. That’s what makes it worse to me.
@armandkokotajlo2085
Ай бұрын
Hi Buddy coating from the pm2 salt is DLC coating. Very resistant coating. I agree that Carribbean g10 handle is awesome. I love mine as well as my carribean. My theory for thoses corrosion spot on the jinpin and arround the spydiehole is due to machining process with aggressive abrasives/tools. The surface is not high polish (smooth satin finish is the best to prevent corrosion overt stonewash which creates micro void on the surface to trap the moisture). And also it's possible that this aggressive machining on the surface create a very small modification of the steel on the surface. We can guess that the serrations on the h2 are more representative of the unaltered h2 steel. Just my 2 cents nothing scientifically approved.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@armandkokotajlo2085 actually you are being too modest! Aggressive machining, such as required for creating the convex grind or jumping does alter the steel causing for example austenitisation, carbonisation… so yes, it is not the same. And, again, you are correct- the serrated edge is ground in with much more restraint than the primary grind. The enthusiasm to utilise the H2 steel has overwhelmed Eric’s typical balance 😂 probably because its use eliminates a step or two in the manufacturing process
@armandkokotajlo2085
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx I don't see any advantage of H2 over magnacut after your test. The loss of edge retention is too big for the corrosion performance claimed. LC200N, Magnacut and Vanax are better performers for edge retention over H2. And for a pocket knife for water/salt environment who cares of thoughness and tenacity? Maybe it outclassed them with a long underwater exposition ? If the aim is to have no corrosion over edge retention why not making blade from titanium like Mission Knives psrk?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@armandkokotajlo2085 … or dendritic cobalt blade like on 365 Terrain. Oh, crap! You just gave me an idea!!!
@Superbus753
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRxdo you own a knife by Sandrin? I am curious how it would do in this test as the polyhedral tungsten carbide blade should not be able to corrode. But how does the knife as a whole (torino has several parts to it that potentially could corrode)
@Sharpbevel
Ай бұрын
Is it possible the corrosion spots on the H2 are just “carried” there from the atomizer of the salt spray making it just superficial staining?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
I think they overheat the steel during the grinding of that aggressive convex. This is austenitic steel and relies heavily on molecular structure compression, heating it up would f this up. Read Dr Thomas article, he’s using much more intelligent language!
@miked6367
Ай бұрын
The corrosion on your H2 example is a contaminated example, send it back, i use H2 day in day out in salt water, salt spray on it 24/7, air drying in salt water all day long, not a spec of corrosion, basically impossible to rust. You should do a re-rest with a different H2 Spyderco because i think that one may have been contaminated. Great vids tho keep them coming mate.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
Which knife do you have that’s made of H2?
@miked6367
Ай бұрын
@CuttingBoardRx I have 2 of the new Stretch 2 XL, and 4 pacific Salt 2's , all in H2. All of them live in salt water every day for work, all of them air dry covered in salt residue every single day, none of them have a single spec of corrosion. My co workers also have the same result with no corrosion. It's a shame that some of these knives get contaminated at the factory somehow. I hope you get to do a new test, I really enjoy your salt mist chamber tests. It's also a good idea to rub a metal polish on all salt blades when you get them, it helps remove any metal partical dusts that have settled onto the blades from the factory causing this superficial surface corrosion. Im assuming whatever blemishes were on your H2 rubbed off with a rinse under water?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@miked6367 I thoroughly cleaned all the knives with rubbing alcohol prior to the test. Two points: the 24 hours accelerated corrosion test in salt mist chamber is not correlated to a real world conditions and intended as comparison of items to one another under identical conditions. The deep hollow grind is not something I would subject a work-hardened steel to as it alters the material properties to a significant degree. Question: H2 came to the market about 4 months ago, how did you end up with 6 knives in this steel? Edit: no the rust didn’t come off with water or even the penetrating oil, small spots remained on the hollow grind. You will be able to see it in the next video.
@miked6367
Ай бұрын
I bought a whole bunch for work as soon as they hit the market. Been using the H1 serrated versions on the job in the ocean for years all corrosion free. Funny thing is, my LC200N knives all get minor corrosion from heavy ocean water exposure, but all my H1 and H2 knives are all spotless. The LC200n knives i bought at the same time as the H2 models to test them, i always buy multiples of my knives because they're part of my daily tool kit, need redundancy in case i lose one in the water. Cheers
@miked6367
Ай бұрын
Im curious also, have you tested H1 in the mist chamber? I'd like to know the results, these tests are great to watch.
@Gee_Dub
Ай бұрын
3:00 Spyderco Caribbean > salt pm2
@igorchernetsky239
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! It’s very informative and useful as usual! I’m thinking of getting pm2 in magnucut even though I own the one in s90v …What would you suggest? Should I get it or they are pretty much the same knives?
@christopherlarson7579
Ай бұрын
Do you just want the knives for edc use?
@igorchernetsky239
Ай бұрын
I mean,do I really…??? I own four different steel of enduras,four different steel of manix 2,one cat,one efficient,one military 2,one pm2,one para3 and bunch of different other brands…,but still,should I get it…???
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
Honestly, I would not trade S90V for MagnaCut. I would add a CruWear to my collection before another MagnaCut blade. And Spyderco heat treats CruWear to the top of the range where it has the exact same hardness and toughness as MC at 62-64 HRC
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
Thanks for helping the channel!
@igorchernetsky239
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Got it! Thanks🫡 My military 2 and Manix 2 are in Cru Wear and I love them!
@ix8750
Ай бұрын
It probably wouldnt make as interesting of a video as the magnacut testing but I wonder how my spyderco salt with H2 steel holds up in your corrosion contraption..
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
It’s already tested and published. And please, please don’t refer to Dehyporator as contraption! It’s a Rig, at a minimum 😂 kzitem.info/news/bejne/t4BstZieqYVofIYsi=fbqe79Xwvwy1fA6o
@jacobchurch6558
Ай бұрын
Doing the lords work here, Thank you for your diligence sir
@andrewmccormick1187
Ай бұрын
My para3 LW has a slot cut into the female side of the clip screw pc I needed a Lynch NW clip. Lol
@CorruptionManX
Ай бұрын
Hi, how are you? Do you have any videos talking about how you maintain your knives to prevent rust? I have three knives: Kershaw, Civivi, and Cold Steel. The latter doesn't even respond to emails. When I asked Kershaw about using mineral oil on the knife (since I live in Brazil and there's only one store that sells only Nano Oil, which is extremely expensive), they replied that it's best not to use any oil to avoid residue buildup. On the other hand, Civivi said, which matches the information in their manual, to apply a thin layer of oil (they leave the type of oil open). So, there isn't a consensus. I just don't want to worry about my knives rusting.
@scuffedpixels
Ай бұрын
Based off these results, would you take a Magnacut Salt series swimming with you at the beach?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
I think there are no better folding knives for that at any price, however, have you considered a small fixed blade? I recently acquired Boker Plus BFF Pack Light fixie in MagnaCut. No scales, super flat construction… I will be reviewing it soon.
@scuffedpixels
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx thanks so much for the input! I have a Native 5 Salt in Magnacut which is why I ask. I have a few small fixed blades (not suitable for water) like my Izula and Boker Coye Ridgeback, but I don't really like to carry them. Even less so if I am wearing board shorts. I tend to have a small knife at least in my bag when I go to the beach for cutting fruit or small EDC tasks. A small folder, like the Native Salt, in a board shorts pocket is perfect. I bought it specifically for beach camping and carry comfort. I'm just apprehensive of ruining it the first time I think I'm good to go paddling out in the ocean lol. Thanks for doing these vids. Cus I was under the impression I can leave it in a bucket of salt water (not that I would) and be fine lmao. I'll know now to be more careful and remind myself it's not immune to salt water damage. I'm very interested in your Boker review cus that would be an even better beach camping option. Thanks for the suggestion! Can't wait for the next vid 🙌
@Warsmith_Honsou
Ай бұрын
While watching this video, I constantly heard a voice in my head. Who kept telling me: - Turn it off, turn it off... Then I remembered that I had Manix Maxamet in my pocket.
@ElCapAddict
Ай бұрын
What are the physics/mechanism of your hardness tester?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@ElCapAddict This must be the first of my videos with HRC tests you’ve watched? It’s a Leeb tester. Check my other videos with hardness tests and then scroll through the comments, there’s a few discussions there about the method, techniques and accuracy.
@DocOnHoliday86
Ай бұрын
I'm very disappointed with the H2. I was planning on getting the Stretch in H2, but wow, that rust! Could it have been an anomaly? Can we see more tests of the H2?
@thoughtstream9591
Ай бұрын
What is the yellow stuff you see under the microscope (not rust)? Is it oil?
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@thoughtstream9591 the knives were completely degreased. What looks like brownish film is surface rust. Sometimes my light gives a golden reflection on the blade. Time stamp where you saw it, I’ll be able to give a better answer
@thoughtstream9591
Ай бұрын
@@CuttingBoardRx Given they are clean, lighting definitely sounds like the reason. Looking again it moves around sometimes which also supports that idea. On my screen it looks like it is there in the majority of magnified shots which is why I noticed.
@CuttingBoardRx
Ай бұрын
@@thoughtstream9591 believe it or not, finding a good light fixture for filming was the hardest part of setting up the studio!
@jaredappleseed7037
Ай бұрын
Lc200n*
@user-kw2en7fr5n
Ай бұрын
so your going to wipe the last knife with the penetrating oil and neglect the others knives in the video, maybe you already know the oil wont work on the other knives but i don't know this!! unless you wipe down all of the knives is biased and pretty much unfair.
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