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@lionelmerrill5371
3 жыл бұрын
I have the Samick sage.I have shot this for about 4 years. I have other bows that are not takedown like the Howart Dream maker, and a Hunter. It is amazing how well the sage shoots so much like the others. Thanks for your you tube.
@gunchief0811
5 жыл бұрын
The beauty of the Recurve bow is it's one of the ultimate survival tools. BIG GAME hunting, fishing. Self defense, target shooting.. fire arrows./signaling. Many uses. And it's quiet... Great tool for the survivalist, warrior.. Hunter, out doorsman..
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@3DArchery
7 жыл бұрын
Gave you a thumbs up just for "The VW Beetle of Bows", almost spit my drink out laughing at that.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
LOL
@jakedonnely4094
11 күн бұрын
Samick sage is the Cadillac of bows😊
@chevycamaroflame
5 жыл бұрын
As a someone new to archery, this was very comprehensive and informative. Thank you
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the tribe.
@leonpaul9443
6 жыл бұрын
Samick Sage is like the AK 47 Of the archery world cheap reliable and good performance.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking in.
@slowdancer5563
3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@joefoxamerican1525
7 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best videos that I have ever seen. You did a fantastic job of explaining and showing. Good job and I think I'm going with the Samick. Thanks
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
+joe morales Thank you.
@bowman321123
5 жыл бұрын
Been shooting my $130 45lb VW Beetle off the shelf for years, including hunting, 3D and target tourneys. I make my own Flemish twist B50 strings, really quiet and smooth. Love it, she is my go-to bow. "...there's always that one.." every trad archer knows that one for sure! Good video, new sub follower. I like the limb decals, I'll need to hunt them down.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support.
@johnmoore8639
5 жыл бұрын
I would choose the Samick Sage. Looks nice, has the extra holes for accessories, and I prefer colors that blend in vs. loud coloring for hunting purposes. The only negative is a flat arrow shelf. I prefer a rounded one. Thanks for the video. Keep em coming.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
John thanks for checking in my friend.
@thewhiskeycowboy-official
6 жыл бұрын
Just a general tip on bow weights (because the video brought up some points that may be misleading to viewers that are not that familiar with archery, though not really a fault of Wingman115.... and I just happen to have a bit of free time to post).... if a bow is rated for (for example) 45lbs, that does not mean "you" are actually pulling 45. That weight rating is done at the optimal draw for that set of limbs. If you are shorter, you could very well be only pulling 30-35 lbs (this also explains why some people never experience stacking, they simply are not drawing to the point where it would happen), and if you are a big (read: tall) person you may actually be pulling 50 or more depending on where your draw ends up vs the optimal draw for that bow or those limbs. It is also why people need to leave ego at the door when deciding the draw weight for their bows. A short person using a heavier draw bow may actually be pulling less weight than a taller person using a bow "rated" at lower weight. This also leads into the tuning of arrows for a bow.... if Wingman115 tuned a set of arrows for his bow, and then handed the bow and arrows to me, the arrows would not fly the same for me as they do for him even though we are using the same bow and arrows. And this is because they are not actually not only tuned to each other (bow and arrow), but to the shooter as well. I am 6'4" and he is (by what he said in the video) 5'6". I would be shooting the arrows at a higher draw weight and speed than he is by virtue of my size vs his. This is not a "macho" thing, it is a physics thing. And it goes to show how there are SO many variables in archery that simple quick charts and quick answers don't really address.... though so many folks want a quick and easy answer. I know I am late to your videos, but keep up the good work. If you have not covered this in any other video, you may want to consider it.. if you already have.... ignore. lol Cheers.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
You are right. Thanks for commenting.
@NPC-rq9tp
5 жыл бұрын
its just how far you pull it back. im like 5 6 and i draw at a 6 foot armspan.
@vladohavran9181
5 жыл бұрын
It is called draw length and more than how tall you are, it depends on length of your arms. Usually, arm span is approximately equal to height, but not always. You should choose a bow by your draw length, the draw length is measured as a standard of 28 inches so if your draw length is 28 then you'll be able to pull all draw weight. If your draw length is not 28 inches then you won't be drawing the same weight as printed on your bow, if it's less you'll be drawing lower weight.
@winstonchurchhill3264
3 жыл бұрын
Say that Again 🤔 !
@chrispieper1278
6 жыл бұрын
I have a samick sage and love it to death, it feels very nice in my hand and is a very smooth shooting bow. I like that I can assemble it in the field without any tools.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
That is a advantage for sure.
@davetoth9767
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really enjoy your reviews. You're very thorough and detailed, which is great!! I also appreciate your knowledge and experience. It is very nice to be able to learn from someone else who has much more experience with archery. Thanks again!
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@bltefft
4 жыл бұрын
I have no experience with the Martin Locust, but I own several other recurve bows (a Ragim 40#, a WNS 38# ILF bow, a OMP 45#, and two Sages, 30# and 35#) and the Sages are my favorites.
@saintless
3 жыл бұрын
Watched a few of your vids now while researching my first bow since I was a kid.. just want to say thanks for the content and for the positivity!
@Wingman115
3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. Thanks for watching and for the support.
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
Oh, forgot to say in my other comment, loved the review. You came across well. I liked the shooting part the best. I thought you shot well. You have good, consistent form, and that is what I have noticed, over the decades, that all good archers have in common
@Wingman115
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Jazzman-bj9fq
6 жыл бұрын
They look pretty close but I think I'd go with the Samick just for the little extra in versatility.
@AlaskanFrontier1
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison, thank you for showing these budget options, and bringing this Martin to my attention!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Alyeska Bushcraft 👍🏻👊🏻
@matthewwagner4042
7 жыл бұрын
You can put a sight on the Sage as well... I'm going to go for the sage. It's ready to go out the door with any of the accessories I want to use in the future. It can be put together in the field without a tool. Easy to transport, pack, and store... Limbs are cheap and can be changed on the fly.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Great point thanks for sharing.
@paulschnell1294
7 жыл бұрын
You produced a very fine comparison of two entry level bows. Then again, price point is irrelevant against shooting ability! I might buy the Samick, but that Martin Locust has wonderful curb appeal. You shot 'em both very well. Nice work!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
+Paul Schnell Paul thanks for watching.
@lucienpaul3351
6 жыл бұрын
I already have Samick Sage and I love it. Love your video. Thanks.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support.
@chriscordell4688
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good video .. I'm professional hunter chris cordell .. I killed over 217 whitetail 33 records I did the first whitetail double slam that nobody in history has did took the largest in the us by bow 92 for that year the largest in ms by bow 96 ms I worked for trebark camouflage 25 years Easton pse hca white nikon and many more. This year I'm going back in time I'll be hunting with the martin just to show you don't need a 1509 $ bow to get the job done.. THANK U FOR A GOOD VIDEO I APPRECIATE IT . DOWN TO EARTH NO LIES
@ddeboy002
3 жыл бұрын
I will say your locust is a very cool bow with the stickers and all. That's for show and smiles. I tend to smile more when I'm shooting well... then break out the cool show gear.
@MrBluesluver
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I know this is an old video, but I just found it, so others will likely do the same. For me, there are 3 deciding factors. 1. Price. I'm on fixed income (retired), although I can work some part time jobs if there is something I REALLY want. 2. Like I said, I'm retired, so that equates to being an old fart, lol. I used to shoot a 45# Howett recurve, but haven't shot in years. That means I need to drop to around 25 - 30#. Also, my knees are shot so I probably won't be hiking to a hunting spot any time soon. Along with the lighter wt draw, I like the options the Samick gives for accessories. 3: I am right handed, but left eye dominate. I have always shot bows, rifles, (& pool) left handed. I know the Samick makes a left hand model. Right now I can get the Samick Lt hand, 25# on line for about $100.00 with free shipping. So, with all that, I will go with the Samick after the 1st of the year.
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
I just bought a SAS "Courage" and it looks similar to the Martin Locust. I just shot it yesterday in the cold and snow, and pretty windy. The SAS bow performed well. Back in the late 1990's I bought a bow for $225 from a local archery shop, and it said "Kiowa" in the limb. But, the riser was identical to the Samic "Sage". I think several companies have distributed this bow over the decades. I really liked the bow and had a lot of respect for the bow. Later, I shot some custom bows, like a Norm Johnson Blacktail, a "Black Widow", and a Chastain Custom, that were all custom bows and more expensive (the Black Widows were around 750 back in the 1990's) and they were all noticeably better in shoot ability and speed. I still would've love to own a Chastain, or Blacktail bow (or a Black Widow) but have never properly marshalled my meager resources to make that happen. In the late 1990's, I shot the Chastain bow (made in Colorado, beautiful, amazing shooting bow) at Bob's Archery in Aurora, Co and I could've bought a used one for $350...I could've stretched my resources a bit, but I didn't...sad that I didn't because I see customs are way out my range now
@newageselfreliance
7 жыл бұрын
I've wanted a Samick Sage for a really long time now.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Their a solid bow. Thanks for checking in.
@cmcclellan9721
6 жыл бұрын
Moses Nagant Wolf Pack Woodcraft is not "really poor" judging by ALL the equipment he has and reviews (buys most himself). Besides, the Samick Sage is a well recommended "Starter to Intermediate level" bow with several riser draw weight options. Someone who knows what they are talking about knows that you don't start out with "high-priced Champion-level" bows when your skill level isn't close. A beginner-level wil shoot beginner level whether they use a properly tuned $150 bow or a $500 bow. If you know this (????) then you're just trolling Nagant.
@AnOddGamerChannel
5 жыл бұрын
@Moses Nagant you come across like an idiot.
@BooDamnHoo
5 жыл бұрын
I have the Samick with 40 and 60 lb limbs. I have a draw of 29 inches but stacking is no problem for me. I love the look and feel of the Samick. I shoot off the shelf, bare bow. Love the Sage.
@norseman1137
Жыл бұрын
Very late reply. I've just bought samick sage... 30lb ... I'm draw of 29" too... Had been concerned about stacking ... It's interesting you've had no issues
@JohnDoe-zl6ph
4 жыл бұрын
To me the Sage is the clear winner!! With a wide range of limb weights, and being predrilled for anything you can add. The only thing I saw that the Martin had as an advantage was the weight, but it just wasn't enough to come close to the Sage.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@Joker-yw9hl
4 жыл бұрын
I'm completely new to archery and I know the sage is sort of considered a noob bow due to its popularity, but for me it's the quality-of-life features on the sage that edge it out at that price point. Requiring no tools and easily upgradable, as well as being a very decent bow means in reality (and especially for noobs like me) it's just great
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
Joker 👍🏻👊🏻
@MsBess100
7 жыл бұрын
"VW Beetle" Hahaha! Love that!. The Sage is a great all around bow, I have a couple Samicks and I love it's versatility and how accurate it is.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
They are a solid bow.
@matthewhaine1322
7 жыл бұрын
I bought the samick b/c of the recommendations. Never shot the martin. Can say I like my samick. The martin looks better with the darker wood but you have to like the flexibility of accessorizing the samick. Either is a fine bow in my opinion.
@mikeet207
4 жыл бұрын
I bought the Samick Sage before watching this video. I don't know much about other bow models, but I can say i'm very pleased with the Sage so far. Went with 40 lbs. and I'm glad I can upgrade the limbs if I want a higher draw weight.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@mingomartinez2165
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been a martin fan 4 like 20 yrs but i do like a bow i can set up quick to hunt or bow fish ive been lookin at the samick i do believe i will purchase one thank for the demo and you are an outstanding archer
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@allosaurusfragilis7782
4 жыл бұрын
I got a sage for my son, based on multiple reviews. Not disappointed.
@JohnSmith-im5di
7 жыл бұрын
I preferred the look of the Martin, especially the area where the riser attached to the limbs. To me it almost looked as good as a one piece bow, Both excellent value though.....
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
+John Smith Thanks for checking in John.
@donoberloh
3 жыл бұрын
Having hunted with both, I have found I like the Fleetwood EDGE better. Smoother riser, sloped and smoother limb trays. Often referred to as the SAGE-2. Both share same limb design and are interchangeable. You many want to look for the one-piece maple riser with red wood insert. Sone years come with layered Oak with Padauk riser that looks red. Both shoot great.
@wruehl
7 жыл бұрын
I started out with the Sage and shot it a lot, but at 6'4" with a draw of 32" the string slap was really loud. switched to the Polaris and I'm in heaven. Made a huge difference in my scores. Love your stuff Wingman! We should shoot some time, I'm in Santa Cruz.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
I'm always game to shoot bow!
@jonerdmann6512
7 жыл бұрын
Just got a used Samick Sage 35# takedown, and will be comparing it with my other recurves. I got the lower poundage bow to work on my form, and hold as I was over bowed with my 50# recurve from when I had a shoulder injury and repair, it got so bad with the burning I had to quit shooting. After not shooting at all for the past 5 years, I recently picked the bow back up again.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Good to see you shooting again Jon. Thanks for watching and shoot strait.
@seanjorgenson8064
2 жыл бұрын
The locust has Soul like a real bowyer. The Samich stores energy in the riser
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
Curious comment. What makes you think the Samick stores energy in the riser?
@dwaynerobertson383
4 жыл бұрын
My Samick Sage arrives in two days. I haven't used a bow in 20 years so I'm pretty excited about un-boxing it and finding out for myself how well we are going to get along, but pretty much every review is positive with that bow; price point, accessories, appearance, power, accuracy. I think the Sage was quieter than the Locust in this comparison, too. You agree? Excellent comparison video. I'll subscribe!! Take it easy, man!
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
Sage is a solid platform that just by sheer volume of bows sold had passed the test. Congrats and welcome to the tribe. Have fun with your new bow I look forward to hearing back from you how your doing with it.
@HugDeeznueces
5 жыл бұрын
Sage for the WIN!!
@daveengstrom9250
5 жыл бұрын
Seems to me it might be better to have the option to install an arrow rest if one wants. That makes the Samic a better deal for me. I like Martin bows and I had a compound years ago. It was real quality.
@joelseymour6372
5 жыл бұрын
Like them both. each has it's own pluses. Over all would have to go for the Sage just because of all the option capabilities. Good video.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@martinhoffman4309
6 жыл бұрын
Planning on buying a recurve soon. Have looked at the survival bows...but I do not think that is the way I will go. Strongly leaning towards the Samic. It has way to many advantages over the survival style bows. Good video and very informative. Thanks.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@mrbilejo
6 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of bows...a lot. I really like my Bear Super Kodiak best of all. That said, my Bear SK is not a takedown. I have a PSE Coyote that I had for years for takedown needs, like riding my MC to wherever. But...but...I bought a Sage with both 35 and 45 lb limbs. It is, indeed, a great shooter. If anything comes close to the SK, it's the sage. It is my no 1 takedown.
@matthewwagner4042
6 жыл бұрын
Bill J Now I'm really glad I bought my sage today.
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
I had a Bear "whitetail" 45/50lb. Recurve (45@27", and 50@28": it actually was hand written like that on the riser). I loved that bow. It was a sweet shooter. Not terribly zippy but I could set it up to shoot very straight and with 2 sets of catwiskers, and a rug rest, it was super quiet.
@markhall128
5 жыл бұрын
I have the samick safe at 55 lbs. I love it. Good video.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@chrisma9056
6 жыл бұрын
Great video good info and breakdown on different bows. I think I'm leaning to sage due changing wide variety of limbs and Pre drilled hole for arrow rest.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking in.
@RomeoEdward
6 жыл бұрын
I have two Samick Sage's, that's how much I like them. They shoot where you look. I think you should have spent a little time discussing the pro's and con's of a 58" bow vs a 62". Great review though.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Food for thought. Thanks for watching.
@billsalcido7878
5 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. I ordered the smamick and I’m stoked! esp after this vid. They seem failry similar but the sage has the accessories options and is cheaper. Cheers!
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your getting into Trad Archery! Thanks for watching.
@wallyhaskett6737
4 жыл бұрын
I have a Sage that is so new I haven't set it up or even arrows yet. I haven't shot a bow for over thirty years but that will change this spring. It will be back to having fun.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it. Keep me posted on how your doing.
@jamessimpson2204
3 жыл бұрын
My wife just ordered 3 samick sage bows.cant wait to get them .
@Wingman115
3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@NATEaBERGERturtle1
7 жыл бұрын
This was great! Thank you so much for putting this up. I had no idea about the Martin locust. I gotta say, I like it more than the sage. I think it's because I'm a minimalist. I understand the benefits with the attachment capabilities with the samik but I like that the Martin is set it up and go. It would make me develop my own way of shooting like how I learned to throw knives. I'm definitely gonna look into it. Thanks Jon!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nate.
@slowdancer5563
3 жыл бұрын
Samick Sage has my vote. Thanks for the great video.
@graphguy
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2 year old sage and it has a small crack in a lamentation layer near the hand grip. So far it is not growing. 2020 - Looks like the Locust is no longer made and sold, but everyone is selling the Sage.
@drralph100
7 жыл бұрын
You've got a great technique, I'm really impressed with your shooting love to see it on a good day. Nice recurves. I can't even kill a deer with a compound, I think I'll stick to my old blackpowder Knight and my Model 70 Supergrade 7mm Mauser... :)
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. You will be surprised with a bit of practice you can do really well.
@whitetailpoet4243
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! 1st yr compound bow hunting. Lovin it & thinking on long range goal to move to recurve. I think I would roll with the Sage as an entry level recurve, for ability to set up as a hunting Bow with containment rest, quiver etc... Good stuff & Peace from Nor. MN. DB.
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
+David Bakke Thanks for watching.
@davetoth9767
4 жыл бұрын
Il like both bows, would also love to see you review the Atmos. I'm STILL giving that bow some serious thought.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe the folks over at SAS would like me to review their bow. But hey if they send me one I will give it a FAIR review.
@davetoth9767
4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't they? I think you're very fair. Do you have any comparable bows to the Atmos that you'd recommend? I really like the portability and durability aspects of it, in addition to other reviews claiming it shoots very well. What others do you like? Was also checking out the Bear Wolverine takedown but no reviews available.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
Dave Toth For the price you can get a really nice takedown bow or build a ILF bow.
@davetoth9767
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes it is high. They had to CNC cut their material which drives up operating costs. But yes I'll likely but something less expensive and reconsider them later. Let me know if you have any recommendations. I'll certainly appreciate any input you're willing to provide.
@BardePhilippe.P76
Жыл бұрын
i am custom to shoot short compound pse bow, recurve wise i shoot a 62'' SinoArt same thing as the Samick Sage, I'd without douth go with the Sage: Riser + ports for upgrades always welcomed !!
@barriebrownlandscapes
3 жыл бұрын
Great vlog buddy, I chose the Samick........I like the upgradability and its a very accurate bow for all levels
@Wingman115
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and comment.
@jaimeleondelaparra3877
7 жыл бұрын
Nice shooting form and good follow through. Keep up the great work, brother! And my vote goes to the Martin Locust!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. We need to get back out and do some shooting.
@chriscordell4688
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video from pro hunter designer Chris cordell..... just tell it like it is that's all u can do ..
@johnnynettle7717
6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your knowledge and I soak it all in..i love archery and I use it for home protection..im not allowed guns...but with a good bow...i can stop anything coming through my front door..if my 3 German sheperds don't first
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff.
@charlespetsch2167
5 жыл бұрын
I have always been a Martin fan
@danbradley2867
5 жыл бұрын
Good video dude. I personally like the Sage for all the accessories, and I can get it for $100 off Amazon, but both bows are nice.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@JericoEight
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great review John! You brought up some excellent points between the two.. Like you , I have both these bows in the same poundage. I find that I use the Sage for hours of practice (100's of arrows) at the range since it pulls more comfortable being 62" and the Locust for 3D shoots.. the lighter mass weight & shorter overall length is a plus on long hikes. And because it's shorter, it pulls & shoots harder, great for single shots & irregular distances.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Both are great bows for the money. Thanks for watching.
@kayakkrazy482
5 жыл бұрын
Any bow is a good bow if it shoots to have fun
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Dynastypreppers
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, I've been looking at buying the Samick Sage for awhile now, looks like it still is a good option.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
It's a solid platform for sure.
@jimmyh8090
3 жыл бұрын
Never shot a bow before but looking to get in to it so don't have a clue what I'm talking about but the arrows from the sage looked like they flew straight while the other bow was sending them wobbly down the range
@Wingman115
3 жыл бұрын
Correct arrows will have a slightly different reaction to different bows and poundage may be just a tad different. The channel doesn’t have the budget to have different arrows for each bow so we get as close as we can. Thanks for watching.
@sprk11
6 жыл бұрын
I'm with Greg from 3D love the WV of bows comment. Nicely done like the comparison. But would the price compare with out searching for the locust? Is the locust easy to find off the shelf as the Samick? Almost for got been shooting the Sage for 3 years now and love it.
@mcgufbd
5 жыл бұрын
Just finding your videos. Do you have a comparison for the Samick Sage to the Southwest Archery Tigershark (something similar)? My son just got the little Tiger and I was wondering about another I might get to shoot with him.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Takedown or one piece bow?
@mcgufbd
5 жыл бұрын
@@Wingman115 Samick Sage and the Southwest Archery Tiger are takedown bows with all the same features, as far as I can tell. Just curious if one were better as I was looking to get in to Archery with my son.
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
Bradley McGuffey Samick sold the company to Galaxy awhile back. Their bows went from being made in Korea to China. Southwest hires some of the Samick designers when the company sold out. I’m leaning towards the Southwest because the parent company is here in the US and will take care of any issue that may come up. I have the TigerShark Pro that is a solid bow.
@mcgufbd
5 жыл бұрын
@@Wingman115 sold! Thank you. Do you have a suggestion for a one piece now at the same price or less?
@billybatesjr1845
6 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Samick just for the fact that you could add to things but watching you shoot you shot better grouping with it then you did with the other bow
@johnboland1788
7 жыл бұрын
Nice comparo video. I like how you customized the Martin; I bet you get a lot of compliments on it. Is the Locust the same bow as the Bear Sonoma? Looks an awful lot like it. It wouldn't surprise me if the major archery companies are having their lower-end bows all made by the same factory in Asia. Anyway, that Martin is sweet. If I knew I wasn't going to use any of the hardware for accessories, I'd take that one over the Sage in a heartbeat. But the Sage is obviously hugely versatile and probably the better bet for a new archer that may want to dabble with sites and stabilizers. Both great bows.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
In trad archery less is more..
@BlackRifleSurvival
7 жыл бұрын
excellent information you included in this video! great job putting this together!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
BlackRifle Survival Thanks brother.
@michaelgmcauliffe
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the samick because of accessories you could use. I own a compound and am thinking of buying a recurve just because of the fun factor..i would like to use a whisker bisqit arrow rest than I could use arrows I already have for my 55lb compound and not have to buy more arrows. I would also put on some sort of sight just to have a reference point at least I would be more accurate I feel .also probably put a short stabilizer on to help with limb shock..just my 2 cents..
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you would want to use the whisker bisquit arrow rest on your recurve if you are using a traditional "fingers release". I am thinking you would have to use a mechanical release with the whisker bisquit rest (because with fingers release there is way more side to side movement of the arrow after release)
@Outcaste153
5 жыл бұрын
I like both of thoes bows, for me traditional is no frills just you and the bow becoming one. Doesn't bother me if you can't attach anything to it. But this coming form a guy who also shots a high-end compound.
@clinthennis5066
6 жыл бұрын
Like your video , like both bows . I just purchased the Samick Sage in 40 pounds , due to arthritis in my right shoulder , but on the other hand florida only requires a 35 pound draw to hunt with . keep up the vids . Thank you
@Wingman115
6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Clint. Thanks for watching.
@jameshagerman7681
7 жыл бұрын
Man you can really tell that the Martin was not fond of those 500s, they were corkscrewing big time. Bet it would love some 400s though. Great video and thanks!
@jameshagerman7681
7 жыл бұрын
Forgot to add that I have a PSE talon that is the same riser as the Martin but with carbon wood limbs rather than the standard fiberglass wood limbs. I draw about 31.5 and it is absolutely silky smooth all the way.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Good to hear. Thanks for the intel.
@viking1545
7 жыл бұрын
Samick , a great bow for hunting, bushcraft, camping and prepping.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony I agree.
@viking1545
7 жыл бұрын
Hey John keep uo the good work brother and stay safe and God Bless, I enjoy your vids Sir. Salutes fellow Vet..
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Will do Tony. Thanks
@jaymurray7344
4 жыл бұрын
I have the Martin Saber and Jaguar. I love them. No problems even with my 31" DL.
@Wingman115
4 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👊🏻
@Langsvardet
7 жыл бұрын
There is always that one arrow. ;) I think i would have the Samick Sage between the 2, for the ability to accesorice, and limb swapping and brake down without having tools. (ILF limbs have spoiled me.) The other bow is nice looking though. What kind of bowquiwer are you using?
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
I put a Selway limb quiver on the Martin and it works fine.
@simply4est
7 жыл бұрын
Samick Sage as best options for the price.
@traymuse3810
6 жыл бұрын
Forest Cole Martin is made in the USA though
@harrybachmann9815
7 жыл бұрын
I think I can count on one hand the amount of times I've shot a bow, however, I'd like to get into it more seriously. Any thoughts or suggestions for a newbie who also happens to be a South paw? Practicing in my backyard would certainly be out since I know my neighbors would call the local LEO if they ever saw me setting up targets.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Harry Bachmann I'm sure there is a local how shop or club that you could shoot at. Here's a link on a video I did on how to get started. kzitem.info/news/bejne/2Jhsu6StrmNyZW0
@harrybachmann9815
7 жыл бұрын
Wow. Not sure how I missed that video, but, went back and watched it. Thanks Wingman! 👊
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out.
@catholichackstraditionalar305
7 жыл бұрын
That Martin is a great looking bow. Excellent review video, thank you!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
+CatholicHack's Traditional Archery Thanks for stopping by Joe.
@Scatter1krav
5 жыл бұрын
Sage,more versatile.
@dandodanderson1074
5 жыл бұрын
I’m looking at the locust pretty seriously. I just to Oregon and it’s pretty wet out here. I had to leave my bows with my dad due to the move. Do you think either of these are affected by moisture? I obviously would wipe them down after shooting, but which would be more durable in the long run?
@pstrbobmarcelo
3 жыл бұрын
I prepared for Samick bow.
@azza1946
7 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go the Samick for its tool free build and portability for wilderness camping. By the way 115, what bow quiver is that mounted on your sage riser there? Lookin great keep it up!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
It's a TrueGlow.
@rwmagnus
7 жыл бұрын
Ah it's been awhile since I've shot archery but yea it's fun. Try a bow sling on your left hand so you can shoot with an open hand. Every time I shot close handed I almost always torqued the riser differently throwing my accuracy off. Technically in OC it's illegal to shoot in your back yard. Just got to love CA!
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@stevedriscoll2539
Жыл бұрын
No kidding! I grew up in the SF bay area; was great back in the 60's and 70's as a kid. But, turned into Commiefornia by the 1990's
@WilliamR-nt5ek
7 жыл бұрын
For me Samick wins hands down ..... because of all the inserts. Up and down arrow wagging... I can never get rid of knock high in arrow tuning shooting off the shelf. I use the Hoyt rest... the little white one... cost maybe 3$ maybe 4... elevated stick on. It's very very durable, comes with a skinny stickon or a fat stick on. Good Shooting.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting William.
@jtsoutdoorsandmore8136
6 жыл бұрын
Great video bro ! I love archery for a lot of reason's . no paperwork , I can walk into a store and buy a bow no questions asked . there ban proof , the government can ban all guns and I wouldn't be affected . I can shoot in my back yard , how many gun guys can say that . its challenging , way harder to shoot a bow than a gun . anybody can pick up a gun and use it , not so much with a bow . I just have good luck with bows . I've never had to sell a bow , unlike guns where for one reason or another I had to sell . I've given up on guns completely I'll stick with bows . and also you don't hear about kids shooting up a school with a bow . if someone wants to use my bow they better be strong enough to draw it back .
@slowtaknow
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they could ban everything, so much for freedom then
@robertpattillo2503
5 жыл бұрын
Bows and guns, none of there business. Get as many of each as you like.
@Hoggy1963
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks for the info.
@Wingman115
3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@ddeboy002
3 жыл бұрын
I think if you tricked out the sage with a scope your focus would go through the roof and you'd shoot better. Just my 2 cents.
@AvoidingChores
7 жыл бұрын
that was an epic rundown my friend.
@robertfranks981
5 жыл бұрын
I know the vid is old but as of now you can find 60pound limbs for the sage, plus lol vw bottle of bows lov that
@evilevilrick
6 жыл бұрын
Had a compound about 30 yrs back. I wanted to get a new bow, but I don't want to need extra tools to replace a string so I went looking for a recurve. I wanted one that was able to hold a fishin rig so I got the Sage. After some practice I find I can shoot it fairly well, but I think I'm gonna hang a sight on it and see if I hit better with it. I'm old and don't want to miss, and I'm used to sights. may not be "TRADITIONAL" but I think hitting the target is more important than tradition.
@fastcamo
7 жыл бұрын
I think it looked like you was under spine with your Martin, but the Martin sounded like it was more consistent. You should run some high F.O.C. arrows and stick with the Martin. Good job.
@Wingman115
7 жыл бұрын
+fastcamo Your right. I'm now running 400's with the Martin and getting better results.
@daveware4117
Жыл бұрын
Ive got a 45lbs sage. Is it a nice bow? Not really, but it was my first trad bow, and i still shoot it from time to time. If i do the work, it puts my arrows in the bullseye. At the price point, it was a great way to get into the sport. I dont have a martin locust, but i do have a martin (damon howatt) black mamba in 55lbs. Now that bow is a sports car! Very fast, very smooth draw, very light weight, very comfortable in the hand, very good looking. This bow is AMAZING, but it also wasnt cheap and the truth is it dosnt shoot any more accuratly than my sage, its just way nicer. As far as im concerned, the cheaper the better when it comes to getting new people into the sport. In trad archery, we cant BUY our way into accuracy anyway.
@acorn826
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry if this has been asked already, but are you cross-dominant? Right handed, left eye dominant? I have a son who is cross-dominant and we're learning together. He's learning how to shoot, and I'm learning how to approach coaching with cross-dominant shooters. I'm also involved with teaching Scouts how to shoot, so I run into all sorts of interesting things to wrap my head around and communicate through. Good video, thanks for the good content!
@Wingman115
5 жыл бұрын
I’m not but my son in law is. We shoot with both eyes open so it’s not a issue.
@Thekmalone82
4 жыл бұрын
just bought a 50lb sage. it's really nice to use, I pull 31'' so it will be around 55lb for. perfect for hunting too
@mikel3426
Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Martin Locust new in box but with no instructions I'm sure it's old stock, do you know where they are manufactured? Great video, thanks
@Wingman115
Жыл бұрын
China.
@mikel3426
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@francisking5139
Жыл бұрын
"Close-out" not a fair comparison in value when the "VW" of bow is retail priced!
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