KZitem sampling = drinking at home Vinyl sampling = drinking at the bar chatting with old timers, hangin with friends, spending more money than you probably should but whatever you’re having a great time Both have their time and place but the latter will always be my preferred option! Awesome video✌️
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Well put. It's all about the experience. Some folks like drinking at home by themselves, I guess.
@Dandroid5000
Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful analogy man......god, I'm using that!
@baL88537
7 ай бұрын
Madlin got it from youtube 🤣🤣 stop yapping
@julaniaustin4313
2 жыл бұрын
For me the reason digital crate digging is still experiential is because today a lot of beat makers and producers aren’t looking for samples, a lot of my peers and people generally are just using loops or chops from someone else’s library. So searching through YT for the perfect joint to sample is fire cuz it’s still a level of I found this song I chose what I wanted to use or not use. And at the same token I was telling my mom the other day I’m bout to start going to record stores an actually crate digging or at the very least see something I like and find it online because I see the value in it
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this perspective. You're right...in a way, digging in the clouds is still experiential, because there's still the process of seeking and finding. However, that experience is slightly different when you're dealing with physical objects, rather than digital ones. Different variations of experiential. All in all...whatever works! Cheers~
@imwaiting
2 жыл бұрын
this is something i've been torn about for a while. i would rather sample off a physical record than youtube, so i mostly try to. but youtube is so handy and quick, i've found awesome samples on youtube. there is nothing like going to a record shop and getting a stack of vinyl, coming back to the studio and chopping. nothing will ever beat that. another great talk, peace.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I always feel guilty sampling off youtube...but it works. I agree with you though, I prefer the vinyl experience. Cheers,
@paterpillar5997
Жыл бұрын
“Just because you have access to everything doesn’t mean you’ll make good music.” Truest thing in music right now.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. It's something I have to keep reminding myself...
@mhdighermuntazar
Ай бұрын
Man listenning to you is just therapy. I've discovered you just yesterday and put your channel on repeat. Not discreditng your tallent or knowledge, but your personality is gem. Keep it up brother. All the love from Syria
@eddieleonard6925
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the listen! I'm glad you enjoy the videos and my perspective. Just keeping it real, and exploring the nuances of sound. Thanks for reaching out!
@cooperarcher1436
10 ай бұрын
As someone who started sampling from youtube when i got my record player and started going out to get samples it was just a way better experience. The physical connection is part of it but also when youre on the internet its so easy to get caught up searching even after ive found something i could use. When i go to the store i cant hear any of the music until its too late to go back out and find more and i feel like that plays a huge roll in my approach to what im looking for or willing to experiment with.
@eddieleonard6925
9 ай бұрын
totally agree. the internet is too limitless. very few of us can use it without getting carried away. glad you found a process that works for you
@morlordca
2 жыл бұрын
You’ve gotta be one of the best beat related channels out there. You’ve got an amazing setup, your camera and editing are very good, and the combination of that and commentary is the cherry on top. I was super surprised when I saw the sub count at 300
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the support! This is just an experiment to share some thoughts, pose some questions, and put some beats into the digital sphere. I just wanna see folks make good music and share some knowledge. Cheers,
@therealstacksonthebeat
2 жыл бұрын
I was pondering the same thing and came across this video. I think sampling from vinyl is really about the ritual. it's slow. it's thoughtful. It's intentional. It's like baking a cake from scratch vs from a box.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Love this. If you've only had cake from a box, you may think that's the only type of cake there is (even if it tastes great). I sample from vinyl for the ritual of it, and the music I make when I cook from vinyl inevitably comes out different, due to the pace and process. Not better or worse, just diff...
@Dipmanchip
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that there’s a magic to both options. Vinyl gives us that authentic rich sound, it’s the way the original artists listened to their own favorite music back in the day and it’s the way they intended us to listen to theirs, but at the same time, the internet gives us access to so much more than a record shop would. And even online you can find songs, albums, playlists etc full of music from indie artists, foreign bands, etc that most people don’t know about so there’s still that magic of finding a gem and flipping it. To each their own but both approaches are great to use.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Well said. There's value in both approaches. And appreciating what each offers gives you the best of both worlds.
@joshuarezac8590
Жыл бұрын
Both and then some lol. Tapes, movies, tv, radio, cds, video games, sound files, records, the interwebs, dollar bin, yard sales…don’t care lol. Love your channel!!!!
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I respect this approach. Why limit yourself?
@jmeditation
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a similar process when it comes to sound selection, these days I have every type of sound available to be right at my fingertips, and to be honest I often get lost in the over abundance of it all. It’s hard to choose which direction to go in when you can go in so many different directions whenever you want. Back in the day when I first started making beats, all I had was a Korg N364 and a Proteus 2000 sound module, I’m on the West Coast so we used more synths and keyboards and did less sampling. The way have less sounds available to you was beautiful in a way because you knew all of your sounds like the back of your hand, you weren’t lost at all, I knew exactly where all my favorite sounds were and when I would dream up a beat, I would hear which sounds I wanted to use in my head. I’m trying to get this effect these days by force myself to change sounds less, but I admit it’s easy to get lost in tinkering with sound design instead of committing to a specific sound and sticking with it until you pull out as much creativity from that sound as you can manage to get. It’s cliche but true that there is freedom in limitations.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Well put. For me, that's why I like equipment that has built in limitations. I started on an SP1200 in 2002, with about 12 seconds sample time. Graduated to an mpc 2000xl that had maybe 20 or 30 seconds of sample time. My philosophy has always been to make more with less, by focusing on arrangement and sonics. I'd often challenge myself to make a track out of 1 or 2 records, and nothing else. Limitations force us to get creative. Unfortunately, I no longer use a DAW for anything besides final capture because all of the possibilities freeze me and take me away from the pure joy of making music. For a few years, I got all the plug-ins in the world, and did tons of processing on every track, eventually over-mixing everything. As you said, freedom in limitations. Doing more with less. It's an ethos not everyone lives by, but it certainly works for me. And of course, I'm not right or wrong. Just true to my process. As you have to be true to yours. Thanks for the note.
@torocruz1192
Жыл бұрын
I love sampling from vinyl and usually Spanish records but if I find something hot I don’t care the format I am going to grab it. Great channel I am new sub 👍🏽
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I hear you. Sample anything and everything...as long as it sounds good and your process is tight.
@IvarConq
Жыл бұрын
Feel like Im late to the discussion, but I sample from everything. When I was younger I was a purist but now I realize I want to practice my chops, which I have struggled with for like 2 decades. The new machines have made it incredibly easier to find my groove and strengthen my ears toward my sound. My younger self would say Im cheating but it has deepened my knowledge for the machines and brought me here where I want a MPC 3000. I am a big proponent for having a process and currently do several audio treatments before I even begin importing sounds into my mpc. I still dig for records but as you mentioned not much new under the sun, and I will add carrying records around is a chore. I think records are dope but I cant fetishize them. I think building your creativity, knowledge base and focus is most important and give you the power to flip anything. Thank you Eddie for creating this channel and keep doing you. Peace to the fam.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
This is an ongoing discussion, that will continue to evolve as technology evolves. I appreciate your perspective, and see where you're coming from. I say whatever gets you better at your craft is the right answer. Lots of people who sample off youtube are looking for shortcuts, but, if you do several audio treatments, as you do, the process can be as intricate as crate digging itself. Who knows..in the distant future, there may an even easier way of making music (probably A-I generated), and we'll be talking about "old school" producers who sample off youtube and use machines that came out 2020. It's all relative. Thanks for the thoughts!
@vmoney2004
Жыл бұрын
Bro, you have some of the best analog beat-making content ever. I've seen some people showboat there 3000 but the beats are just not there. yes, I'm an old cat but I have to sample records when I'm using my 3000 and then run it to tape on my Tascam 388. anyway, love loves the content.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Thank u. I truly appreciate that. Just trying to keep it true to the legends I was influenced by. I've always wanted a Tascam 388....i hope you're putting that thing to work!
@armando9740
Жыл бұрын
It boils down to choices and workflow. Workflow is huge because it's determined by the instruments we use which give and structure the set of possibilities from which we make our choices. A potential problem with contemporary music is genericness of sound, which you allude to when you say, "how you treat it". What happens when you use someone else's samples of real instruments is that you are getting their choices they made when recording the instrument through whatever gear they had - not that this is bad in itself, as this is the nature of sampling. Also, having not used the actual instrument itself in real life you don't know it's nature, what it feels like to play it, nor how it sounds in real life, all of which affects the way you play it, so you know it only as a reference. A high-fidelity acoustic or electric instrument reproduces the movement of our bodies - which is an expression of our intent - as sound. In addition to this there is more idiosyncratic sound in an actual record than on KZitem since it's physical properties will differ from another record, also the turntable it's played on, and the settings and gear used to record it will add to its particularity. The more choices a musician makes the more depth, unity, and authenticity the music will have. Having said this I don't have a problem with sampling off the internet, but I acknowledge that results will differ depending on the process used to produce them. Another thing I almost forgot to mention is imagination. The effect of an actual record with the album art will have a different effect on your imagination than just internet links, which you alluded to when you said, " I never felt a connection to a link". The process of choices and workflow arise from the imagination but also fuel it, what matters is that you believe the process you use is the most authoritative way to work and gives the best results.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Love everything about this. Especially your point about imagination. It's hard to quantify, but the source of your material has a tangible influence on the end result of your sound. It's not that one is better than other, but the experience matters. If I mic''d individual instruments through preamps to craft my sound, that would be different than sampling them from vinyl. Both offer a different set of challenges, and both are rewarding in their own way. I've taken sounds off youtube and then run them through effects that give them their own physical properties, arguably as nuanced as if taken from vinyl. More work, but same result. Everything's on the table. There are so many sonic possibilities...cheers,
@isaacwright3590
Жыл бұрын
What you said about the rolls of film. You’ve earned a subscriber I love you
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Glad that point resonates. They're very similar concepts.
@djReason19
2 жыл бұрын
Yo, this is my favorite theoretical in the series so far. All I can add at the moment is that, as a DJ, it is still apparent that some records Have not made it to KZitem yet. I can confirm that in the genre of hip hop. So if that is true, it must be true for other genres. Thus still leaving some gems on vinyl to be discovered. -Reason
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Great point. I forget sometimes that some gems are truly off the grid...and that the entire point of digging for records is finding something that's yet to be unearthed. Thanks for the reminder.
@djReason19
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 Right! But it's understandable. So much has changed since we started creating. It's easy to think the old ways can't be effective anymore.
@newphilmz3605
2 жыл бұрын
I think both are great. I buy random records and CDs from garage sales just to maybe get a few good samples out of them. The fun is not knowing what's on them and sorting through, listening to each one for that certain sound or loop. Online sampling can be easier, but that forces me to look harder and dive deeper for unusual and different styles of music. So even youtube sampling becomes a fun search for unique sounds or loops.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your point. There's elements of each process that present different challenges you have to navigate. I also like buying random CDs, especially if they're free or like $1 each. Might find gems..
@charlesghazanfari2189
Жыл бұрын
Men... thank you for sharing this calm and peaceful side of music production, and your point is right, we all sample a vibes, a feeling, whatever the sound comes from, you feel it / you chop it... PEACE
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Thanks for stopping by and glad this resonated with you. Peace.
@soulsiderz7280
21 минут бұрын
Good reflexion ! your video is really interresting.
@itsgoldn931
2 жыл бұрын
I sample mostly off KZitem and Instagram. I agree with everything you've said. I don't thing crate digging is dead. There's just so many other different mediums to to sample from these days. I recently bought sound packs of original drum machines (Lynn Drum, MPC60, MPC2000, ect.) so I could still get that grit.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. And I have to keep reminding myself that crate digging is not dead...it's actually taking on new forms. We're living in a renaissance of access, and hopefully music as a whole will elevate as a result of this.
@peteypete1984
8 ай бұрын
There's so much to be said for the mystical synchronicity aspect of finding samples that work together in a "destined to be" kinda way and when it's on vinyl it definitely adds some more sync weight to the whole alchemy of it.
@eddieleonard6925
8 ай бұрын
100% agree. its alchemy. the way you piece the records together. the sound of each record, the condition of it, it's journey, all of that ends up in the music. much love.
@sheshatsciencetemple
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you said! I feel like I would have said the same thing. I sample mostly from vinyl only due to the enjoyment I receive from finding something say at an old antique shop. It’s important folks don’t get that mentality of finding rare records because no one else has. Not “all” records are online. For example you will find amazing records that only exist in ONE geographical location. Basically the discovery is what provides the joy of making music.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Well put. I totally agree. And that joy of discovery is difficult to put into words...it has to be experienced to understand. Appreciate the perspective...and true-- there are still unearthed gems out there.
@piynubbunyip
2 жыл бұрын
The book analogy is a great one.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. It's difficult to articulate how the experience is different. You have to experience it to fully understand.
@piynubbunyip
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 Having things laid out in the open - like a bookshelf lets your eyes jump to something that you may not directly seek out as you say.
@SmoovePlayazRecords
Жыл бұрын
What you said in the outro is so relatable ! That's why I'm still hesitating buying one of the new MPCs vs a 2500 or 5000. Great video !
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I think whatever you decision you make will be fine as long as your approach is sound. You can make great music on new mpcs and they work faster. the 2500/5000 are more classic, but have a few limitations. It's a win/win. Either way, you're gonna make great music. :)
@AndrewJohnClive
10 ай бұрын
I use both. Like you say, working on the digital realm allows you to treat a sample in so many ways that you make the sample from any source fit the music you’re trying to make.❤️🙏🏼 The only thing I don’t do is use sample libraries.
@eddieleonard6925
10 ай бұрын
I don't use sample libraries either. I have my reasons. But curious why you stay away from them?
@AndrewJohnClive
10 ай бұрын
Well, for me, it is important and respectful to know where I got it from. Also, it’s what makes it special, it’s like you’ve just chopped this little gem right outta the stone yourself. And finally I find sample libraries overwhelming. 🙏🏼❤️
@nickc4276
4 ай бұрын
there was a rare jazz record that I searched for for YEARS and i eventually gave up when a japanese company released it on CD. This was way before youtube blew up like it is now.
@eddieleonard6925
4 ай бұрын
what record? i wanna find it :)
@blackrenaissanz
2 жыл бұрын
Like the vibes and content over here. Keep pushing!
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that! Thanks for the note.
@michaelheath1194
2 жыл бұрын
I tend to sample off KZitem and Tracklib, because I don't own a turntable. Once I acquire one, I plan to go digging in some record stores as the process fascinates me.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Bro...I highly recommend saving up for a turntable one day. It's a fun experience, but until then...nothing wrong with using what you got.
@cosmosynthesizer
11 ай бұрын
Yes! The Tascam 424 is a really good tape recorder and mixer. I don’t sample a lot, but now I’ll from tape. Luv you channel!
@eddieleonard6925
11 ай бұрын
True. I love the samples off tape. A great way to add texture. Thanks for the support.
@WalkmanAssassin
7 ай бұрын
I stayed with OG press approach to watermark as well protect the quality control. I’m not against digital media % it’s all about what you’re doing. I hold the original copy as ethical.
@eddieleonard6925
7 ай бұрын
I totally agree. There's no wrong answer to this, but we should do what feels right and leads to the best outcome. Personally, i prefer the experience of sampling physical media.
@JazzMatic1967
Жыл бұрын
Just found you and I mos def will dig through your vids You are very knowledgeable.. Hat off 2ya..
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for stopping by. You got nice chops. Keep on..
@caogomi
3 ай бұрын
I came to this video and really appreciate your take on it... I was planning on getting either a Tascam DR-40x or a Zoom H4n pro recorder for recording samples from places and things... but the H4n Pro has a 3.5 input jack... which seems important if I am going from RCA to 3.5mm male and want to keep the stereo signal from vinyl recordings. But now I am looking at the whole theory of mono vs stereo sampling... I think I prefer the DR-40x, but it only takes 1/4 adapter jacks in mono... so I can still record a record... but it will unfortunately turn anything I do mono... There are plenty of mono records out there too... but its definitely confusing to consider when thinking of hardware and how each has its benefits and drawbacks... Wish the tascam had a damn 3.5 stereo input!
@eddieleonard6925
3 ай бұрын
You could go either way. Honestly, I only sample in mono. It works for me!
@trakliteproductions
Жыл бұрын
Peace. Both of them.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening. I scrapped them both, but still a fun exercise.
@Crookedletta601
9 ай бұрын
Sampling from Vinyl definitely has more weight and sounds better. Sampling from KZitem is great but I most usually that when I can’t find the sample on vinyl. When I do sample from KZitem I resample it to 16,12 or 8 bit in my MPC4000 to dirty it up and I’ll just sample vinyl crackle from a record to add to the overall sample 🙏🏾 Dope video mane💯💯💯
@eddieleonard6925
9 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to try a 4000. Great idea to resample at a lower bit rate to add texture.
@lindasson
Жыл бұрын
This is a great video bro, and I'm glad the algorithm brought your channel my way because your topics are dope. I'm an Oldhead, and I tried to stick to original vinyl path, but your point about Madlib is so right, because the "rare" records some producers talk about, is a search away on KZitem, and we can add fx to give it the sound we want. Great conversation fam, and I agree!🙏🏾✊🏾💚
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the perspective. It's hard for us oldheads to adjust, but it's necessary sometimes. Those who have experienced the best of both worlds are the ones advancing in the end. KZitem and accessibility on the web have definitely opened up new doors & perspectives. in the '90s...it was literally impossible to get certain records. Not today..
@chadoworld
2 жыл бұрын
100% Vinyl for me! The experience of shopping for records, bringing it home, placing a needle on the records with all the nuisances associated, etc! No way in the world I would ever sample from a digital source to make Traditional Sample-Based Hip-Hop.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I hear that. You said the key word -- experience. It's something you do...it's experiential. People who have never created in that way may have a hard time understanding the allure of all those nuisances.
@chadoworld
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 No doubt! Not to sound elitist or anything. It's just like you alluded to in the video. When you go through the traditional process your approach and connection to the beat is more organic. And in my opinion clearly reflects in the end result. ✊🏾
@randomanton
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. Its like digging for buried treasure
@shinbakihanma2749
2 жыл бұрын
@@chadoworld You do sound elitist, because you ARE elitist. Though that's not to say your intent is inherently malicious, but your viewpoint is INDEED elitist. That's why you had to say "not to sound elitist". You said that there's no way in the world you would sample anything from a digital source, yet everything you sample ends up digital in the end anyway. What if you ran across something on youtube that caught your ear to sample, and you couldn't find it anywhere else? You gonna just abandon it because it's from a digital source? If so, then you'd be a damned fool. What's the real difference between sampling a song from either vinyl or a FLAC file? I've done both, and there is no real difference in the end result as the process is ultimately the same, save for pulling out a vinyl, putting it on the turntable, and putting the needle on the record. Nothing wrong with you only sampling from vinyl if that's your vibe, but the particular reasoning you gave as to why you wouldn't sample from any other source is ultimately flawed and nonsensical. Your elitist view of it downplays another person's way of doing things differently. That's what this video was ultimately addressing.
@chadoworld
2 жыл бұрын
@@shinbakihanma2749 I was very clear as to why I would never sample from a digital sound source. Not sure if you're trolling or not BUT my work speaks for itself. It sounds EXACTLY the way it does because I sample strictly from Vinyl! All A/D, D/A conversions are not equal! I would love to hear your music so you can show me how it all sounds the same!
@blackrenaissanz
2 жыл бұрын
I definitely prefer sampling vinyl. And I don’t really go looking for samples online, BUT I listen to a lot of music and often I come across samples online, and I’ll just go ahead and flip it. Usually it’s from Apple Music, not KZitem tho.
@blackrenaissanz
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem seems like the quality would vary widely. A lot of low quality ish on there.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
@@blackrenaissanz Very true. Lots of crappy quality, but I'm amazed at how many curated channels feature records that I've always dreamed of flipping.
@ProbeRoket
2 жыл бұрын
I sometimes sample keyboard demos off KZitem. It’s especially dope for lofi.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I love sampling random keys of youtube...and then processing them to taste. Cheers,
@garycummingsjr.6896
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem also has another advantage of finding similar records to popular records. It just comes up in other related videos.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
True, kind of like the way Pandora Radio was working when they first started, right? This takes the place of a record store employee who knows your taste & buying history...
@garycummingsjr.6896
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 exactly and now you don’t have to copy what’s popular you can take the idea and duplicate it many different ways with similar records
@Casketondabeat
2 жыл бұрын
I mostly grab my samples off youtube. It's super convenient and fast. But my wife and I both enjoy vinyl digging also. We are music heads for real so that's a date for us living in nyc. 💯🙌
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
That's dope! Diggin solo is fun, but sometimes its even better with a partner. Date night! Thanks for checking the vid. I grew up in long isle so I used to love diggin in the city.
@colindavis2113
2 жыл бұрын
This is super cool. You’re ending point was exactly what I was thinking of being the best approach. I don’t know anything about sampling but want to get into it. I’d love to get into vinyl. It cost money, and so do all those tape machines, that I don’t have currently due to purchasing other gear. I think I’ll start sampling from KZitem, but hopefully one day I can acquire and learn the gear to sample from vinyl. Wanna learn to scratch too! Woo! That looks fun!
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Scratching is a separate, beautiful artform that you'll love. And KZitem is a great way to start sampling...but I highly recommend going out and searching antique stores, thrift stores or record shops for old vinyl...it's all about the experience. Cheers,
@colindavis2113
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 when I do it I’ll try and find an inexpensive route if possible to learn. Gotta do some equipment research. Thanks for the vid!
@dlichtenberg
Жыл бұрын
Dude I’m right there with you, cool to find your channel. I’ve been making ambient based synth music for the past 10 years but my buddy recently rekindled my old love for hip hop, now I’m really into crafting beats. The digitak is amazing for this since it interfaces with my computer so easily (transferring sample). May digitak, Casio vz10m and emu e6400 ultra are my 3 favorite tools. tape is a great idea to treat those lifeless KZitem samples! I’ve mostly been having fun sourcing vhs tapes from a local record store and cds I have laying around. I like what you said about that connection you get with vinyl or just offline source material in general. I feel the exact same way! Looking forward to watching more of your content Man, peace!
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
ambient based synth music? that sounds dope. I'd love to hear it. also, i love sampling from VHS...so much color, so many samples you wouldn't find otherwise, especially when paired with devices like you've got. great formula for making new sounds & textures.
@andrebiggz313
21 күн бұрын
To me even slight differences matter. Vinyl vs mp3, hardware vs software. Even if you can get them to sound close it’s never exactly the same. I sample off KZitem a lot but I’m trying to less and less because directly off vinyl usually sounds better, in some cases a little in some alot. I’ve noticed sometimes KZitem will have remastered versions of old tracks (where the mix is different) and when you compare to the same song on vinyl something will be off like the drums will sound a lot weaker for example. At the end of the day will the average listener even care or notice, probably not. You just have to ask yourself if the slight improvement in sound quality is worth the extra work and money (im referring to hardware vs software as well) this is something I’ve been asking myself for years
@eddieleonard6925
20 күн бұрын
That's the question. And there's no wrong answer. I've been sampling off KZitem a lot lately as well, but I honestly don't enjoy it nearly as much as finding records, bringing them home and the experience of sampling through my turntable and receiver. It's the experience AND the sound quality. But on the other hand, it's fun to take something from KZitem and manipulate it into something that works in a track. It opens up so many creative opportunities. The answer is different for each of us. As long as your having fun and staying true to your creative principles.
@antwaanhemisphere7956
2 жыл бұрын
That is creative…recording to tape then sampling from it…basically recording digital to analog…genius ✅
@descendancedenoefilsdadam1028
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing genius in dirtying stuffs there is even a genre called lo-fi. Nothing new here. Just in depth discussion.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
It's fun to explore this stuff, just to see what different processes do, whether upgrading or degrading your sound. Thanks for checking the video.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
lol. it's true, people have been doing this for years. Boards of Canada, Portishead, etc.
@derreckhurlbut2016
2 жыл бұрын
Word is bond jovi !!! Keep it up
@nwonknubeat9331
2 жыл бұрын
I sampled off KZitem before, but I would rather dig. I like to get my hands dirty, and have a connection to the records I sampled. Nothing wrong with sampling off the tube tho
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
When I have the time, I do the exact same thing. I truly believe the process of finding a record, and the connection you have to it has an intangible effect on the music you end up making with it. Cheers!
@phdirac
2 жыл бұрын
Lots of good points, thanks for the tips and general discussion on the topic ✍🏿 I agree that there’s a different feeling that comes from the process of digging (and using the older gear).
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out my rant...so many different approaches...in the end...whatever works for you.
@phdirac
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 yes sir, that’s a fact!
@menikmatimoe
2 жыл бұрын
really like your point of chopping samples slowly and making beats like a sort of meditation :-) i think there come different vibes, feelings and inspirations while making beats with more analog equipment and the results sound differently, although you can immitate propably every outboardgear or sampler with a software nowadays. i started making beats 2 years ago on a mpc studio, that goes with the mpc software and i only sampled from youtube. but most of the hip hop i like to listen to is made on old gear and samples from vinyl. so i got myself a mpc 2000xl lately and now slowly starting a journey of discovering vinyls in old stores and trying to make beats out of them... but i would never sell my mpc studio, because i still like to make "quick beats" with samples from youtube and more endless possibilities than on the xl ;-)
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the perspective. Sounds like you've got best of both worlds. I'm curious whether the music you make on the Studio has a different feel than the 2000xl? Do you prefer the results of one over the other? Or, do both do the job??
@menikmatimoe
2 жыл бұрын
i'd say when i make a beat on the xl it's more about finding the "right" sample, while on the studio its more about manipulating the sample to sound how i'd like it to sound...my beats on the xl have less tracks and sounds and are more simplistic...i love making music in both worlds ;-) but if i have to choose, i'd go with the xl, even though i'm not that much into the workflow as i am with the studio right now...
@vintagestereos
Жыл бұрын
Great question. I'm all about using youtube and adding warmth or whatever else myself. Often I sample from youtube into my Gemini DS-824 12bit sampler and then sample into my MPC Live from there.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
We're on the same page. I prefer vinyl, but I've figured out ways of warming up samples off youtube by using old samplers. Never tried that Gemini, but sounds like it's working for you. Cheers,
@TSevensMedia
2 жыл бұрын
Dunno how I have't found your channel before! Top guy! Deffo true you can never chop a beat the same time twice haha
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I thought I could chop the same identical beat twice...haha. Lesson learned.
@thegroove2000
2 жыл бұрын
Nice set up man.
@Christian6.1803
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes sitting at the desk can be a negative experience. It’s the same old desk, nobody to run into, no favorite coffee shop across the street, no amazing weather (or terrible weather) to alter your mood. Going into a record store is never negative. It’s the beginning of an adventure. Anything can happen.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
so true. i guess you can have an experience online, discover a new site or channel? but it's not the same as physically getting out, searching, interacting...
@animaze86
Жыл бұрын
love this channel - please keep the content coming!
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Truly appreciate that! Life is busy, but I'll try and keep this going...
@tom22333
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Eddie. Just found your channel (thx algorithm!). Great vid. I love your lab!
@tom22333
2 жыл бұрын
Making beats is meditative for me too. Good shit bringing that up!
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Sampling, chopping and beatmaking is meditation. I try to practice daily.
@SMEL
Жыл бұрын
Both! But certainly enjoy the vinyl more
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Same here, brother!
@AIRJAVITUBE
2 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of making beats is digging in the crates it’s so fun i could go to a record store and dig for hours. i love it but I do sample off youtube sometimes not as fun as diggin but sometimes necessary.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
It's surprising to me that some people have never experienced the joy of actually digging in physical crates. It's my favorite part, too.
@AIRJAVITUBE
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 word
@AIRJAVITUBE
2 жыл бұрын
if they only knew lol
@wehappyfewmusic
11 ай бұрын
Cool to see you’re using a cassette 4 track in your process!
@eddieleonard6925
11 ай бұрын
i L O V E my tascam!!! It adds something special that no other equipment can duplicate.
@wehappyfewmusic
11 ай бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 Yeah, I know what you mean. I’ve got a few Tascam 4 & 8 track cassette machines and love them too. Great hybrid setup you’ve got there man. 👍
@BizzyAmor
2 жыл бұрын
Well done my brother.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Thank u. Appreciate you tuning in.
@lelandchapman1
2 жыл бұрын
I just ran across your channel. I really like what you are doing with the content. Keep it up.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Late to this message, but I appreciate that! Time is limited, but I'm gonna try to keep going! Peace!
@shawndiggz8904
2 жыл бұрын
Team Vinyl all the way!
@garnetbey7400
2 жыл бұрын
Also yes I do sample from you tube, now that my set has changed from a larger home studio to now just doing light work from my desktop, still have a few outboard gear for vocals, but other than that it's mainly digital.💯💯💯💯💯
@aldali724
2 жыл бұрын
I do what I’m feeling but I usually feel like going to the shop and digging. A lot of stuff isn’t online and vice versa you get the idea. Used to sample KZitem exclusively until learned what to sample and what to look for
@OSTeez
2 жыл бұрын
I dig thru the net and in record stores, on the net I'm listing every records that I want physically. I use to sample from youtube but honestly as you said I don't feel any connections to it. There's something special to diggin', touching records etc. I work with the 2000 XL which has a pretty slow workflow and once again as you said, with records you're building patience and deeper researches on the sounds you want to work with. I am a lot more focused when I'm listening to records instead of computer files. However, if you're sampling from KZitem or anything and can make dope ass track, I mean let's just vibe all along, no matter what's the proccess behind it.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Well said. I like the approach of testing out a record on youtube, then buying the physical copy. Some prefer the slow approach, some want to bang out beats quickly, which I totally get. It's all a matter of preference. What you said about connection to your material is key. Also, my first ever mpc was the 2000xl...A lot of fond memories working with that workhorse. Peace!
@isaacwright3590
Жыл бұрын
Had to flex the tape thing haha felt that
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Subtle flex. haha.
@michaelbain6402
2 жыл бұрын
Clouds. I came up in dusty record shops and I miss some parts of that process but there is so much in the clouds. KZitem all day
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I feel u. But I can't stop chopping up vinyl...it's so fun.
@jovegairy8409
7 ай бұрын
I use happen to go online and hear the sample and i caught my attention, so I recorded it, spend some time with the sample and add beats into it and see where it goes from there.
@eddieleonard6925
7 ай бұрын
that's a solid approach. use the tools you have to get the sound you need.
@jovegairy8409
7 ай бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 for sure and see what else it needs to get that full Dolby stereo sound. ya know! Lol
@davidpetersonharvey
2 жыл бұрын
I'm older and I just do whatever works. I prefer to make my own sounds from scratch.
@Christian6.1803
2 жыл бұрын
New favorite channel. Thank you Eddie.
@romyblackmusic
Жыл бұрын
Hey Hermano, Great channel. Love the aesthetic, authenticity and the nod to traditional process. For me this video encompasses the shift in overall sub culture. Instant gratification and the trend of quantity over quality. A large focus on speed and efficiency over process has left, what I feel, sample culture lacking in depth. I dont care how fast a beat/track is made or what process is used, at the end of the day Fire is Fire when it comes to a hot beat. (And opinions are subjective) However when time is taken, the hidden gem is found, the chopping session takes hours, the mix is manual etc etc the bond is different. I feel for the up and coming generation that would find the process frustrating instead of meditative. PS: Great set-up! What is that analog mixer BTW? looks the goods. Think Fast, Live Slow.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I'm really glad this resonates. More and more, I feel as though I'm in the minority with my approach, but I get satisfaction out of the craftsmanship of beatmaking as meditation, so numbers don't matter. Sounds like you truly appreciate and honor the process. Kudos! I'm sure it comes through in your music making (or listening) practice.. Thanks for the note! Peace! PS..the mixer is an Allen and Heath Quasi mixer, from the 70s. I did a video on how i use it a few months back.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I envy that level of focus. I think that's my approach once I choose the final direction...but when jamming, I'm all over the place. :)
@lashtal
2 жыл бұрын
What I find interesting is how, like in the example where you mention bouncing digital to tape, there appears to be a fixation with "getting that Tape sound with every sample"- which is fine- but what about bit crushing that sample? throwing some plate reverb on that sample? some chorus? some distortion? all of the above, and then more?! or a combination of these to invent a new technique that becomes the next popular trend for [GENRE X] ? :) New subscriber. Great content bro!
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Yoo...you bring up a great point. The default is always to "run it through tape," but you're absolutely right...the tape sound may get old, (in some ways, it already is) and we'll be looking for something new. I'm going to have to try some of those treatments for a sample, and elevating and diversifying the way we manipulate sounds to create new sounds and combinations of them we've never heard before. Thanks for the inspo
@lashtal
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 I LOVE the vinyl sound, too. A person could take a digital sample and run it through any variety of Tape Saturation VST's to "reclaim" that sound, if one wishes to do so. In hip-hop, it's been so very well done, and for so long, that we consider this the Trademark Hip-Hop Sound. But how much auto-tune, for example, has to be used before we start saying "no more"? And then The Next Sound is born... (e.g.- Kanye transcending the trademark 2000's sound with his own stylings) I want to believe some 16 year old kid in his mother's basement is going to be the one to do it next :)
@SinistralArcVI
11 ай бұрын
i do both. There are still things you cant find on youtube. At the same time youtube makes things so convenient. sometimes i will be listening watching anime or something and then ill hear something i wanna flip. I love doing both
@eddieleonard6925
11 ай бұрын
I hear that. It's undeniable how fast sampling from YT is versus vinyl or other mediums. But sometimes the slowness can be a benefit. Interesting either way
@jasonleifer9078
Жыл бұрын
I’ll sample from records, tapes, and digital sources. I’m mostly looking for spoken word stuff when I’m digging around, not beats or instruments. If there’s an interesting fx loop or something in the sources I find I’ll grab it.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I like the variety and the focus. It's good to know what you're looking for from each medium. Probably yields some interesting results. Cheers,
@LUCIDLINES_MIXED_MEDIA
Жыл бұрын
Go the samurai way and sample from vinyl only! Do what Bushido code tells you! Clear your mind, focus on your goal, be ready to fight and die, wear silc bathrobe always, sample from analog source solely! This is the way! 😊
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
haha...i have days where i'm a purist and this is the method. the most fun is always the overall process, regardless of result.
@LUCIDLINES_MIXED_MEDIA
Жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925Yeah of course ♥️ Art is something spiritual and it goes far beyond any habits, codes and stereotypes! Thanks for your YT content anyway. I find it very inspiring. Greetings from Poland.
@khayacele144
2 жыл бұрын
Great Video,Crazy setup...
@SoundstarMusic
Жыл бұрын
Like you I'm older so the process of making music is what mattered most in my earlier production days. Being able to find samples and sounds that were unique to whatever it was you wanted to accomplish took time indeed and was often an enjoyable process might I add, but to your point in the video, nowadays it doesn't matter as much especially for newer/younger producers who want to make music fast and with all the AI technology to make music at our fingertips. It has ALWAYS been about how you create the music and arrange the song with whatever you use. Good topic for sure bro
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. To each is own. I find myself doing both, depending on how much time I have and my intentions for the music.
@PixelNotesMusic
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, man.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in. I truly appreciate it.
@ontosori767
25 күн бұрын
I use tracklibs because I can afford it. Of course, I would prefer to still use vinyls, but their value has risen so much, at least in Finland, that I could afford to buy maybe one record a month. For the same money, I get an almost unlimited library of music to sample, and they handle the licensing side for me if needed. So, as an unemployed amateur producer, it is more economical to sample online. However, I think the most important thing is not to use ready-made loops.
@ontosori767
24 күн бұрын
Oh, and you are straight on point when you speak speed of sampling. :) I use Akai MPC 500, so when i make beats i need to have enought time. I have to sample by ear's, no properly indicator what im doing in mpc. 🤣
@eddieleonard6925
24 күн бұрын
I used to have that little mpc 500. i really loved that thing. still do.
@eddieleonard6925
24 күн бұрын
Totally agree about not using ready made loops. And sorry to hear about that vinyl situation. In many cities, there's used vinyl everywhere, although it's honestly getting more expensive every year.
@ontosori767
24 күн бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 Price of used vinyl has also really risen. I've kind of already learned to like Tracklibs, anyway, I've assembled my equipment in such a way that it fits in one shoulder bag, so cloud services serve this purpose well. As soon as I actually have room for a studio, I'll get a player and vinyl again.
@ontosori767
24 күн бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 The price of used vinyl has also really risen. I've kind of already learned to like Tracklibs, anyway, I've assembled my equipment in such a way that it fits in one shoulder bag, so cloud services serve this purpose well. As soon as I actually have room for a studio, I'll get a player and vinyl again.
@Rafael.Bernardino.
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the "Layers" album by the great Les McCann... the album my first wife smashed since I didn't let her use the car while I was at work.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Haha!!! It's a classic. What a story.
@Vinylheritage
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I like doing both depending of the moment. IMO more than the sound, it’s the worklow that has an impcact. Peace
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the perspective. Big picture, I agree with you that workflow is king.
@thegroove2000
2 жыл бұрын
I am doing well with the Koala sampler on the Ipad. I need to finish the tracks and upload for others to check out. Just learning mixing at the moment.
@bonafidebeatz20
2 жыл бұрын
Vinyl is the way for me. There’s definitely a connection. I own a MPC 1000 and a MPC live. And I’m always on the 1000. There’s something unexplainable about it that the live doesn’t have
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow...I've used the 1000, but I've never used the Live. Is the difference in sound? Or overall experience?
@akaixl83
2 жыл бұрын
I like vinyl , but have sampled from KZitem, once you eq the sample from KZitem you can’t tell. I like vinyl because you find something lp wise that you may not of searched for. I also look at the year the lp is pressed and what artists is on and type of instruments. I usually listen to an album as I’m getting some drums chopped or organizing the studio then come back to sample it. ✌️
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
That's a wise approach. And yes, once you EQ, nobody will know it came from KZitem. I'd say about 30% of the time I sample off KZitem, usually when I'm in a rush.
@akaixl83
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 yup right on, I’ve got a couple kids 5 and 7 year old, so when I have more time I make beats on the sp1200, s950 combo or mpc 3k. When I’m pressed on time I use newer mpc
@burrabeats6036
2 жыл бұрын
Loving your channel! I had to sub.. ✌
@chowdermonsterr
Жыл бұрын
I gotta say that I do both vinyl and YT sampling and of course the best way to go is always vinyl. But if there is a certain sample that I KNOW I will not find at any record shop anytime soon…I’m going to resort to the YT. BUT more importantly than that: any sample I decide to take, I give the proper respect of listening to the ENTIRE track front and back just to give the whole song the opportunity to had been listen to before you scratch anything from it. And also listening to the entire album that the sample belongs to. Etiquette of sample grabbing 101 right there
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
Glad you said this. Important not to disrespect the artform. It shouldn't be stealing, but respectfully and artfully repurposing select sounds to compose with. Whether YT or the vinyl, the craft is the same. Peace.
@unclassedmedia
2 жыл бұрын
seems to me, there's a lot of myth and legend around the equipment and tech, for me it's about how well you work with whatever you use, like it's more about the approach in your mind than any aspect of technology. people make it work for themselves with all sorts of kit. having said all that, what's that mixer? It's mad cute. :)
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree with you on this one. It's not the tech, but how you use it. The mixer is an old Allen and Heath Quasi mixer. Cheers,
@audiolego
2 жыл бұрын
Subbed. I sample using cds and KZitem and both are connected thru an Onyx preamp.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
How's that Onyx sound???
@clarkflavor
2 жыл бұрын
I just got a 404 MKII and one of my favorite things to do is plug it to my phone and click around KZitem searching for interesting sounds. Made a pretty cool beat from a video with sounds from a nuclear reactor, and a video with two African gentlemen playing guitar and singing in their house. Couldn't have gotten that from records! Still absolutely adore vinyl though.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Hows the 404 mkii? They seem really dope. I agree with your approach -- use digital sampling for the things it excels at, and maybe stick to vinyl for what vinyls good at. Cheers.
@clarkflavor
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 I think it's damn awesome. Never used a 404 before, but have gone through some machines; ASR-10, MPC 2000 / 1000 / One, Digitakt. I've used Studio One, FL, Reason, Ableton, Renoise, Cubase, and so on and so on. The 404 really hit me though. It's fun, fast, weird, sounds great, forces me to think differently. Sold my MPC One last year because it did too much, so figured I'd rather use Ableton (which has been my home base for many years).
@SenseiIceman
Жыл бұрын
I think it's better to dig for crates even though I haven't done it yet but because a lot of samples are not on KZitem and people use a lot of the same samples and loops
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
True. Finding your own samples is important if you're trying to be original in how you compose and sculpt sound. But if you're using samples everyone else has used, it's all about how you flip it!
@JayEm312
2 жыл бұрын
Biggest difference I see is the vinyl does not distort when you speed it up from a record player. Also it's the vinyl artifacts that won't be present if the KZitem sample isn't recorded directly from the vinyl
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't thought of this, but you're right. With vinyl, you have more control over the sample as it comes in. I also find that vinyl sounds fuller, but maybe that's my mind playing tricks on me.
@obody-sl9np
2 жыл бұрын
i may be much younger than you and be extremely familiar with this whole digital thing, i have barely ever sampled from anything else but a vinyl record on my hardware sampler. it just feels different, feels cooler, feels real
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I'm learning to respect that the experience of making is different for each of us, and plays a big part in what we end up creating. There's no wrong way to do it, and they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Sometimes speed is what people need, sometimes it's a tactile, more nostalgic experience. Whatever works..
@mrmister7355
2 жыл бұрын
Vinyl! E dinging is ok, but I can control filter better with vinyl for some reason
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
Word. I think vinyl has more latitude for control, but maybe that's just me!
@chrisdavis9135
2 жыл бұрын
🏆 well said.
@mikvalentine6515
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve done a lot of both. Obviously working on KZitem is much faster. I can dig from literally anywhere cause I got my phone on me and I can sample it straight to my MPC. That’s The Shit. I can explore crazy holes of music but you still gotta find the needles in the hay. Ripping from vinyl is typically way cleaner to rip in the sense of I don’t have to do cosmetic surgery and run it through anything else. It’s set. That being said the manual manipulation. Tweaking the RPM, reversing, or even scratching and warping shit. It’s a much more involving and rewarding process. I feel like the music is talking to me and I’m talking back rather than just flipping through video after video. I have to actually grab each vinyl and pull it out the sleeve and see who made it.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. It's about the linear notes, the inside sleeve, the photos, the write-ups, learning the musicians who played on each record...and of course, the physical experience of holding a record. That being said...it's so convenient to sample from your phone or the internet...and nobody will know the difference if you're nice with your craft.
@bournedevinesupreme
Жыл бұрын
It was hard for me to admit that there's really nothing special about sampling from vinyl, aside from finding something rare that isn't uploaded to the internet. It's quite easy to make anything sound the way you want it with software these days. It's just a hard pill to swallow after investing so much into equipment, but you live and you learn.
@eddieleonard6925
Жыл бұрын
I hear that. I do a mix of both. How do you feel about the tactile of it experience of it, though? Do you get more enjoyment out of one or the other?
@nickc4276
4 ай бұрын
I miss the charm of digging for a rare break or rare song or even just a strange record in the dollar bin that you took a chance on and it turned out to be dope. now everything is at your fingertips to sample instantaneously.
@eddieleonard6925
4 ай бұрын
100% agree. Hard to replicate that experience.
@frankjamesbonarrigo7162
2 жыл бұрын
cassettes are wonderful.
@frankjamesbonarrigo7162
2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of samples on my computer. Drum files. I bought the new sp1200. The only drum machine I think I need to sample the real thing is the 808. I wish I could rent one
@uriel-heavensguardian8949
2 жыл бұрын
awesome video!!!!!!!! Wherever you can find the sample. some people dont have a record player
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter, as long as you make some heat.
@uriel-heavensguardian8949
2 жыл бұрын
@@eddieleonard6925 exactly
@sampoetry
2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays I don't think the general public can hear the difference or don't care but for me it's nothing like the sound of vinyl. Plus when sampling I'm much more faster when dropping the needle and combing through a record. Although KZitem is much more convenient I enjoy the process of going to a record store and digging for records.
@eddieleonard6925
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. Digging for physical records is about the overall experience, which is hard to quantify. But depending on your style, it will comes through in the music. I prefer my vinyl sampled beats to youtube, but it's all subjective.
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