I believe SARSILMAZ is one of the few if not the only company that purchased the right from CZ to copy their model.. I love the k2 14rd .45acp and takes para ordnance mags..good vid most people are sleeping on this Brand..
@IvanRiveraStagea
10 ай бұрын
I believe they licensed Tanfoglio's design, not CZ's. Tanfos and CZs may look the same but the internals are a bit different.
@user-un5my5bw4j
10 ай бұрын
@IvanRiveraStagea thats 100% true, all Tanfoglio did was basically clone the frame itself. Other than that made many improvements over the CZ 75 and shadow as well as TS2. Especially with Tanfoglio using stainless swaged match barrels with polygonal rifling making them insanely accurate. I have two Tanfoglio stocklll designs a Defiant Limited Master 9mm large frame, and a Defiant Limited Xtreme .38super. Awsome pistols. I wouldn't mind trying the K12 sport x for the price though
@IvanRiveraStagea
10 ай бұрын
@@user-un5my5bw4j Yup! I own both Tanfoglios and CZs. They have a lot of similarities mechanically but the parts, retaining mechanisms, etc. are quite a bit different. Tanfoglio actually made 75-derived race guns first back in the 80s; CZ only followed suit well after the Soviet collapse.
@brandonlind5700
8 ай бұрын
Sar 2000s and k12s are tangfoglio copies that are better then the original. Tangfoglio is a Cz 75 copy with a bit of sig 210 put into it so it’s a bit of hybrid design. Tangfoglio is a great design but the company’s execution of the design is but sub par. Tangfoglio uses a great design but relatively sub par quality materials. Sarsilmaz took the great tangfoglio design and made pistols with excellent material quality. The barrels, slides and frames are all hammer forged, Cz doesn’t even hammer forge their frames. Modern all non custom shop Cz frames are quality cast frames. SARS are probably the highest quality all steel factory production Cz inspired design on the market. They’re cheaper simply because of the volume they produce for other countries and because the cost of labor is cheaper I imagine where they are produced.
@morningandafternoonsun
8 ай бұрын
I have a K2, K2C, and CZ 97B. I love Sar I think it’s a quality handgun but it just doesn’t come close to the overall construction of the 97 and both the K2 and k2c jam often if you’re not constantly polishing the feed ramp ramp. I never have that issue with the 97.
@wayzooted
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully the next variant includes DA/SA, Rail and maybe optic cut.
@FuzedBox
9 ай бұрын
It was the LACK of rail that led me to purchase this. I've owned a Shadow 2, currently have a SP-01 Competition Blue, Jericho 941F BDEIII, and now this one on the way. All of those have rails. I bought this gun purely for its price and aesthetics. Rails are ugly.
@wayzooted
9 ай бұрын
@@FuzedBox I really like Sar. I don't own a k12 yet but probably will eventually.
@FuzedBox
4 ай бұрын
@@wayzooted Very late response here, but it's a good pistol. At a glance it's absolutely beautiful, but when you start inspecting it closer... you can tell that the machining was rushed. If I was a QC manager at their plant, I would have rejected my slide. They made quite a few cosmetic mistakes that luckily do not affect function. The trigger is certainly not in the same league as $1200+ competition pistol triggers, but it's definitely better than most duty triggers. It could benefit from a shorter reset and 1lb shave off the break. The front post is on the worse side of meh. It really needed fiber optic, and it's too wide for a true competition sight. It's more difficult to acquire than it should be, and renders the benefit of blacked-out rears moot. Chunky black on black is fine for a .22 Ruger pistol, but there's no excuse for it here. I think this pistol would be better if they had stuck with a DA/SA trigger setup instead of hopping on the SA competition bandwagon, just to half-ass it. It's still better than average. What really sours me is that I ordered a Grand Power K100 ($400) on the same day that I ordered this, and that DA/SA trigger has quite possibly the best SA break and reset out of ANY DA/SA pistol I own. Yes, even better than the CZs. It raised the bar and proved what could be done economically. This means that an GP X-Calibur Match is in my future. These criticisms might seem harsh, but they're honest. Overall it's still a bargain. I really do like the pistol; the performance that you're getting for the money is incredible. It's accurate, reliable, ergonomic, has great finish, and it has unique aesthetics not found anywhere else. I do not regret purchasing the K12 Sport X and I won't be selling it. It's good for the price, it's really fun to shoot, and it's an interesting conversation piece.
@1AFVeteran
Жыл бұрын
Nice looking gun but the sights could definitely be improved and maybe the next model will be optics ready.
@chuckr5929
Жыл бұрын
I love my SAR handguns, quality, fun to shoot, accurate, and great price points.
@TheColosiss
Жыл бұрын
I've had my Sar K2 45 for 7 years. Put nearly 2 thousand rounds of factory and about 2 of reloads... Fantastic. I plink with my Canik TP9sfx more, but my Sar is my go-to .45 when I'm itching for something more than my 115gr plinker.
@TheColosiss
10 ай бұрын
@user-tu6fy7kr1y 312 including shipping. It is a 1st gen import so it has SARSILMAZ plastered all over the poor thing in about 7 different ways. The feed ramp and cam grove needed to be polished out of the box. The crown on the barrel also had a slight nick out of the box that I alleviated. No biggie. The K2 uses the same profile magazine as the Para P14 double-stack 1911 magazines. They just use a different follower. So mags are easily sourced. The only issue I've had was the elevation screw for the rear sight snapped off in the cold one time. I was out running drills in Oregon in about 30 degree weather and the screw just snapped.
@TheColosiss
10 ай бұрын
@user-tu6fy7kr1y Their machining quality has come a long way so 600 is still a good price. The newer ones have less tooling marks and the QC seems to be squared away. I appreciate how they removed 5 of the SAR logos that were bordering obnoxious.
@ricoreyes6578
8 ай бұрын
Mine was almost 8 years ago it has cocoa beach , flo on it . Best double stack acp other than para ordinance P14 which was the first double stack .45 1911. Made in the 90s if I am correct .. my friend got that as soon as it came out.. 7 bills for it back then .. also the FN 15rd 45acp has the most rd but it's polymer not steel.and bigger.
@jagpilotohio
Жыл бұрын
Nice looking piece. Flat shooter. But WTF is going on with those grip panels? I do t think I’ve ever seen such slick and weirdly shaped grip panels.
@huntgar
Жыл бұрын
They look like he swapped em from a cyberpunk pistol🤣
@micahdunleavy9227
Жыл бұрын
You can get the shadow 2 for like 900-1000… I’d spend the xtra sheckles but this is a pretty nice looking forearm for the price..
@dennislawson7306
Жыл бұрын
Idk it’s kinda hairy 🤷🏼♂️
@l337l0gan
Жыл бұрын
In my experience, I'd spend the extra and get the shadow 2. But if you would've asked me 5 years ago, I would go for the sars.
@masonwhitlow4298
Жыл бұрын
I was told the k12 blows the shadow2 out of the water and for $400 less. I was told Cz makes shit guns that are overpriced. Sar fan boys are a different breed. Lol. Why would you prefer a gun with a heavier not as smooth trigger, awful iron sights, and no optics cut just to save a few hundred bucks? There’s a reason the Turkish cloned the k12 after the 75 series. I picked up a sar9 for my truck gun bc it was $500 and holds 19 rounds. But dang when I pulled that trigger I was so disgusted. So $100 later in a trigger and spring upgrade, I have a striker fired sar9 that now has an acceptable trigger. But stock for stock the Cz p10 destroys the sar9.
@5nyper
9 ай бұрын
you should've went for canik as your tuck gun, their mete trigger is phenomenal@@masonwhitlow4298
@deejaybriez2341
Жыл бұрын
I have had mine for about 3 months now.....1k rounds later, guys you will be shocked at how small your groups are ( if you do your part), at 10- 25 yards!
@plantguy100
4 ай бұрын
I'm a SAR fan too. Aside from the slide vents, what are the differences between the standard K12 Sport and the X Model? The standard one also has what appears to be an add on magwell.
@30rdMAGA-vl9ul
Жыл бұрын
That pistol looks nice! I found one on gun broker for $699
@NocoYeti
7 ай бұрын
If they put a rail on any of their steel framed 9mm id be all over it.
@ert-7112
6 ай бұрын
100% agreed
@donwright7694
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate what you do. Knowledge is key. Solid video all around. Great info.
@katanapr3
Жыл бұрын
The Sar K12 sport like most DA/SA pistols that Sarsilmaz produced are Tanfoglio clones. The Sar K12 is a direct clone of Tanfoglio Limited, you can use Tanfoglio parts to make it a really good shooter. LOK grips makes grips that fit the K12, Dawson Presision have fiber optic front sight that will work with some fitting. Also Patriot Defence can cut the slide to fit a red dot and is very affordable. I own 4 Sarsilmaz and they all perform great as well as my Tanfoglios.
@acehighflyer123
8 ай бұрын
I am a fan of both as well.
@smokum7
Жыл бұрын
That's a good looking cz clone, I'm a big fan of tanfoglio to👍
@chrismartinelli9153
Жыл бұрын
Will the SAR k12 10 round mags fit into the CZ Shadow 2?
@moemaster1966
Жыл бұрын
Looks a lot like my old school Jericho baby eagle..if it’s half as nice as that it should be a awesome handgun…I want one!
@IvanRiveraStagea
10 ай бұрын
Both have shared roots; they are licensed Tanfoglio designs.
@brandonlind5700
11 ай бұрын
Also it’s worth noting unlike a cz shadow, cz 75 that has a cast frame, although well done cats frame, the k12 and sar 2000 has a hammer forged frame
@JWhitesAZone
Жыл бұрын
I have a sar k2 45 I just got that needs a new rear sight, but I cannot find anything outside of a red dot plate from Galloway precision. Don't really want a dot on it though.
@bfish9700
Жыл бұрын
The shadow 2 we have at home lol I used to want one of these, but I'm waiting on the girsan 2311 for my next turkish gun.
@LightofRyga
Жыл бұрын
Same, but where are they? They said April at Shot Show.
@Scott079
Жыл бұрын
I would actually prefer a double single action trigger
@mrshort2379
Жыл бұрын
great content awesome review: now that Sar K12 Sport X is🔥
@latrontreeellis
Жыл бұрын
Man I love your videos but I have a question about this gun. If this gun is well balanced and accurate while shooting it, why wouldn't it be a good idea for conceal carry?
@FuzedBox
9 ай бұрын
Dude, this thing is twice the weight of a Glock 19 and much chunkier, along with ginormous gas pedal ambi-safety. There are literally zero IWB holsters being made for this unless you make one yourself, and trust me, you better be wearing a damned tight belt because it'll yank your pants off. Totally different MO. You want a CZ pattern carry gun? Get the new Shadow 2 carry (which is still a chonky boy).
@michaelthrelkeld212
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t look like those side panels would give you much grip
@731trident
Жыл бұрын
That's because the slide rides in the frame, not over it.
@michaelthrelkeld212
Жыл бұрын
@@731trident just curious what does that have to do with the grip?
@archer7153
Жыл бұрын
Witness grips are compatible.
@RichardRichardson-dp1lu
11 ай бұрын
When the slide rides in the frame, it shoots flatter. Therefore, there’s not much recoil
@RichardRichardson-dp1lu
11 ай бұрын
And the weight of it helps the recoil as well. The grips work great with the overall ergonomics of the gun. I have 25ish handguns, and this is one of my top 5 most accurate and ergonomic guns
@molonlabe6352
Жыл бұрын
I've been eyeballing this one for awhile now.
@thirdeyevision3584
9 ай бұрын
Can you put the sar p8l ported barrel??
@mikereese15
Жыл бұрын
Had my eyes on this one for a while now. Need to get it.
@mehmet284
Жыл бұрын
amazing accurate sarsilmaz k12
@R3spectTheV3t
Жыл бұрын
It’s between $750-800 dollars … you’re welcome.. really wish he began with the price point
@georgeaura
Жыл бұрын
Man that thing is awesome
@Tennessee_est1983
Жыл бұрын
We had one of these in our shop awhile back and it felt like a solid gun! Being that it’s a CZ75 clone it should be! Keep up the great work man!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@seang1032
Жыл бұрын
It's a good looking gun but as mentioned, the cz shadow 2 is 950 at my lgs right now. I feel like firearms prove that the originals are better than the clones or look-a-likes. I feel like this could be a glock/dagger video. Very similar and lower price but one has a solid track record and the other has pins that walk out. Only time will tell
@scaleworksRC
Жыл бұрын
Clean pistol!
@ert-7112
6 ай бұрын
I wish the release a full size and a compact with rail, thanks for the video 👍
Жыл бұрын
Shot flat!
@georgeaura
Жыл бұрын
Are there accessories or grips for it, like I have seen that if you want more weight to a gun you can get brass grips, I was just wondering if there are things like that for this?
@wayzooted
Жыл бұрын
yes, Tangfolio. some vids on youtube about interchangeability.
@agapitobatongbakal2313
9 ай бұрын
Cz or Tanfoglio clone
@agapitobatongbakal2313
9 ай бұрын
Compared it with RIA 5.0e
@jimchambers7548
Жыл бұрын
Nice pistol, i was looking at a K12 in 45acp a while back but couldn't get it. Great video
@georgeaura
Жыл бұрын
It looks like a cz
@henrycalhoun5809
Жыл бұрын
Great intro of shooting
@RESENHADOATIRADOR
Жыл бұрын
Comprei a minha hoje mas infelizmente as leis sobre armas no Brasil e bem diferente... Entre a autorização de compra do exército, apostilamento no CR de atirador esportivo, Craf e guia de trânsito levará ente seis a nove meses para que eu possa levar minha K12 pra casa. A ansiedade está me matando 😂😂😅
@lexlane9353
Жыл бұрын
I want it!
@joshg0h79
Жыл бұрын
I love mine. Fell on hard times and I sold my sp01 (not my k12). Only need front fiber optic and extended mag plates. Super accurate and fast. Any options on trigger upgrades?
@oddballgunman5288
Жыл бұрын
You can get a spring kit for around $36 and improve the trigger tremendously! Galloway Precision produces the best on the market. Put one in my Car 2000 and it shoots almost as smooth as a Shadow 2
@kanitsomarkos
Жыл бұрын
Turkey AGAIN.... copy paste!!!!
@jagpilotohio
Жыл бұрын
SA shadow 2 is on sale everywhere for $999. I’d do a CZ for the extra cash but for $700 that seems like a good deal
@BussThemGuns
8 ай бұрын
Awesome firearm, great review my friend, I have the Limited Production model finished in Black Chrome, I did a review on it because I couldn't any reviews on that model on youtube, I was shopping for this model and ran across the Black Chrome version, same firearm, but the Black Chrome finish gives it a whole different look.
@heinrichgegenalles
Жыл бұрын
It looks like a CZ 75 Tactical Sports clone , but with nice slide cuts and better grips :)
@IvanRiveraStagea
5 ай бұрын
Same trigger guard but the internals are patterned after the Tanfoglio Limited
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