Hi Si, I tested it on 3 races so far. A short 20mn race on Volcano CCW, on a Champs-Elysées race (same as ZRL tomorrow...) and in a chase. I thought it was amazing on the Volcano CCW because mainly it switched all my focus on drafting and I kept some in the tank for the sprint (constant reminder about drafting, I still do not understand its mechanics and I don't think I will ever with this tool, but this is all about focusing on drafting). In the chase, that was very useful, because I could see the gap with the other cats ahead clearly, helping with the push. On the Champs-Elysées where this is all about 1mn power in the slope, it was no help at all, I got dropped. Hence...I do not see this anymore as an unfair advantage compared to other riders 😀
@mcsparshatt17
Жыл бұрын
Just ridiculous that Zwift isn't doing this anyway. It's data that's already there, it's just giving the user the opportunity to cut and slice the data how they want to - stuff that bike computers have been doing for decades with the computing power of a calculator.
@jameseastwood402
Жыл бұрын
Great app, and I really hope Zwift see how much added value it brings rather than just shutting it down. Will be interesting to see...
@sccxvelo
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a better data presentation then what zwift shows now. Next laptop/computer thou as still have the old Home Screen on a windows 10 laptop which could axed by zwift within a year.
@NoName-ok2zt
Жыл бұрын
This addon is glorious.
@greglonnon
Жыл бұрын
Sauce is just rocking it. Amazing! Solves a ton of issues with Zwift. Great Work Sauce Man. :)
@GavinHarte
Жыл бұрын
I think as a training tool it could be great; learning how much draft you get from taking up a certain position. As a racing tool I think it's on the edge of what is fair. In a race everybody should be on a level playing field with respect to what metrics are available. That's exactly the approach the UCI took when banning things like Supersapiens in races.
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
I think that's a fare comment and we will see if Zwift or Zada get involved further to try and put a stop to certain aspects. The developer Juston has already stated it should not be used to cheat and has implimented certain controls such as hiding data when ghost power up is used.
@TheLochsong
Жыл бұрын
I'm more concerned about the weight doping, sandbaggers, ebikers, and other cheats than I am about someone having a little bit of data to help them be more efficient.
@StopaskingformynameYouTube
Жыл бұрын
To be completely frank, even if zwift would decide to ban this, they could not enforce it for anything except official races where zwifters have to stream their riding. I love sauce, it allows me to see a more tidy chat for my group rides, and less clutter from things i do not care about. It also can look better than the zwift UI.
@AlejandroMallea
Жыл бұрын
Not even there. You can run Sauce on a secondary screen, that you're not necessarily streaming.
@silversx80
Жыл бұрын
@@AlejandroMallea And you could even just stream just the selected window, and not the overlay.
@AlejandroMallea
Жыл бұрын
@@silversx80 And what's more important, users don't really have to stream their Zwift screen. They just have to connect to a Zoom call to show themselves on video, but that's about it. The screen remains private.
@SherpaDave
Жыл бұрын
Nice one Si. I’ll download it.
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
Sherrrrrppppaaaa good to hear from you Sir. Missed tou
@jimpeyton1459
Жыл бұрын
Yes...Sherpa Dave is heard from!!!! Good to see you.
@wattswheelhouse
Жыл бұрын
SIR! This is some pretty sweet stuff
@IhorOvsiy
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very useful
@opierik
Жыл бұрын
It would be great if you can show us a breakaway of the final km of a race. Ride away and use groups data and speed metric to maintain that gap.
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
If only I had that level of fitness :-)
@opierik
Жыл бұрын
Haha, or some other event. Just to show the power of speed information. A lot is power based, but sometimes speed info is really important. You will get a feeling of your speed and the power you have to push vs the group speed and their power.
@Benus128
Жыл бұрын
So this is the new tool sandbaggers are using to stay at 3.2 w/kg ?
@dessyd.1638
Жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to bring the sauce upfront when on the zwift
@MrMattie725
Жыл бұрын
It's very interesting and useful during races. However, I don't think everything about other riders should be visible during a race. Current wattages etc, sure. But peak, averages, ... during the race is a little too much.
@amymundisev5829
Жыл бұрын
This will be a tool the sandbaggers can use to keep their watts/kg just at or below so they don’t end up catting up when they can see their overall watts/kg for the whole ride! No thanks.
@BikeCraig
Жыл бұрын
There are lots of tools to do that, including using a bike computer. I think this has enough great functionality to offset the one big misuse that I see.
@testalino
Жыл бұрын
With category enforcement, there is less sandbagging. Sandbaggers are sad people anyway.
@zwiftpower
Жыл бұрын
Is there anyone watch that drafting meter go up or down during a race, and felt it helps?
@frannyyarina
4 ай бұрын
Hey Where can I find CT Opposition in Sauce?
@ratherbehiking8653
Жыл бұрын
After loading it and trying to open the program, I got a message I have to be on Patreon to use it. Is that new?
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
No that’s right you will need to join Justin’s Patreon
@werdsmyth
Жыл бұрын
Only thing I want is to know wkg over the course of a race. Annoys the hell out of me when I finish a race and it says I did 3.9wkg, when I know I could have easily punched it on a sprint or gone a little bit harder up a hill for that extra 0.1wkg. Why can Zwift just have that functionality in-game?!?
@rogerdodger2009
Жыл бұрын
Installation etc, is it simple enough? would be fine to go through that Si if you get the chance. do you need a second account to run it? read that somewhere?
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
Hey Roger, Hopefully will get chance to do an installation video. Its simple enough and yes requires a second account currently, which you can do via the setup.
@reedyswfc
6 ай бұрын
Is it compatible with apple tv ?
@trplay1
Жыл бұрын
not clear, does it require a fee?
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
Yes subscription through Patreon.
@steroroba6261
8 ай бұрын
Can you do a video using w'bal in racinng ?
@SiBradeley
8 ай бұрын
Good idea , definitely need to explore this and sauce a little more
@kaydanmusic4391
Жыл бұрын
How much is the subscription?
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s around £2 per month
@kaydanmusic4391
Жыл бұрын
@@SiBradeley Thankyou
@StuartLynne
Жыл бұрын
Zwift should at least note that people are willing to pay $2/month premium for this.
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
I. Sure that’s the first they noted :-))
@benfinesilver2250
Жыл бұрын
No, no, no
@podgey65
Жыл бұрын
I like the draft element of it, but otherwise its info overload for me. You still gotta pedal. But many many may be into it . Draft would be interesting in ttt
@SiBradeley
Жыл бұрын
Hey Paddy, I agree it could be to much info. The TtT it is super useful.
@Koga-Ed
Жыл бұрын
Wondering in what amount this conflicts with privacy legislation. Because it can be argued that performance data are also health data which are protected by privacy laws. Plus: Zwift should add the option to hide individual personal performance data gathered from add-ons like these.
@jameseastwood402
Жыл бұрын
You give up access to that data when you login to zwift
@occyman
Жыл бұрын
@@jameseastwood402 typical poorly considered answer from you and why I no longer follow your group on FB…..Zwift don’t have the ability to bypass Privacy Laws even if you give actual or implied consent.
@jameseastwood402
Жыл бұрын
@@occyman are you mixing me up with someone else? I don't have a Facebook group. You consent to your data being available for others to see in the Ts & Cs (anyone's weight can be accessed using simple maths of watts and w/Kg for example). GDPR is about storage of personal information. That's got nothing to do with sauce, which isn't accessing any information that isn't otherwise available, apart from the draft data which I don't think anyone would argue is a privacy issue!
@RideWithGerben
Жыл бұрын
Time for ZWIFT to ban this tool from all races on the platform. Nice as a training tool, but I seen it already used as a sandbagging method in the B's to prevent upgrading to A's. And with being a paid service outside of ZWIFT, it's close to pay to win like in other videogames. It doesn't win you races, but gives you an edge that non-paying riders dont have. And I haven't given consent to Sauce for using my data, only ZWIFT, so if people say that Sauce is not GDPR compliant, they might have a point here.
@keithdenton8386
Жыл бұрын
I looked at it and to get it to work you have to accept all kinds of adware. Too invasive.
@DavidHiveyZwift
Жыл бұрын
Controversial..... but I hate this. It helps sandbaggers stay in cat limits and it takes away the skill of working out how effective you are by practice and evaluation. Really not a fan at all. And am deftinately not a fan because it is not available to all riders on every platform.
@chalkus
Жыл бұрын
Exactly this. The number of people that have multiple efforts that are 0.01wkg below an upgrade is quite incredible... Sauce is a blight on Zwift Racing.
@billm3628
Жыл бұрын
1 minute commercial really !!!!
@gweflj
Жыл бұрын
I actually wish Zwift was more pure and didn’t even have W/KG.
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