The 645 was launched in 1965, and the TL designation was only used through 1967. For the first six months of production, they were painted A/C's Persian Orange, after that switching to "Hiway Yellow". The article I found didn't say exactly when production began, but you can be reasonably certain that yours was built between late 1965 and the end of 1967.
@SalvageWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for that! On one of the hydraulic hoses I found a tag that had a date code of 11/65, so that definitely fits with what I was thinking! The hose date doesn't mean it is a 1965, but I'm betting its a 65 or 66 based on that and your info! Thanks again!
@davidaylsworth8964
2 жыл бұрын
Working in the yard the other day and I suddenly realize the theme I’ve been whistling for the last 10 minutes is your travelling tune. Talk about an earworm. Looks like another interesting machine.
@notajp
2 жыл бұрын
Since the fuel tank sits lower than the engine, I would expect to see a low pressure lift pump of some sort to get fuel flowing up to the injector pump, that’s the first thing I’d be checking. Since you are bypassing the ignition switch, if it is an electric pump, it won’t be getting any power. Find the tank outlet, and follow the fuel line from there. If it has a lift pump, you should find it somewhere in that line. BTW, there is lots of info online for Stanadyne pumps.
@duanecook1
2 жыл бұрын
I would be looking for the low pressure transfer pump also or putting a cheapy in for testing
@roballan4944
2 жыл бұрын
This would have a cam operated mechanical lift pump. They are usually lever operated.
@stevenfelix7092
2 жыл бұрын
You were looking for where to put oil in the compressor. It should share the engine oil and be fed by the engine. The round rubber cap is a protector for the air governor(set air pressure). I really like watching your videos! Keep up the good work!
@sgprojectservices5054
2 жыл бұрын
pull the cover off and the fuel metering valves are bad about sticking if been sitting long. use a little lube and gently work it back and forth until it moves freely. while it is off you can test the shut off solenoid in the cover with jumpers to make sure it moves.
@charlesreohr6236
2 жыл бұрын
Start from the source and work forward. Is the fuel turned on? Is the outlet clogged? Is the filter or lines clogged? Does the pump have a prime on it? Bypass the key and make sure the pump is running with proper voltage and amp draw you cannot count on clicks to know for sure. I sure you know all of this but sometimes it's good to have a reminder.
@tiredoldmechanic1791
2 жыл бұрын
It's probably too late for this to help you but there should be a fuel pump that feeds fuel to the injector pump. The fuel tank is under the radiator so it requires a pump to get fuel up to the injector pump. Most of them had a mechanical pump and many were replaced with electric pumps so the injector pump could be primed without cranking the engine. There should be a sediment bowl or filter before the fuel pump then another filter between the fuel pump and the injector pump. You should check for fuel coming into the injector pump before disturbing the injector pump. You could gravity feed fuel from another tank into the injector pump. The injector pump has a vane pump where the fuel enters but vane pumps aren't the best at creating a vacuum when sucking air. You being able to turn the engine over so easily by hand suggests that the compression is low so it will need ether to start. Those wires not being connected makes me wonder if the shutoff was held open in some other way or if someone cut the wire to shut it off.
@jimplatts6172
2 жыл бұрын
Superb reply. Don't you sometimes wish you could speak to him while he's still there. I've come across lift pumps with preished diaphrams before.
@tiredoldmechanic1791
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimplatts6172 Yes, there are probably many viewers who could be of some assistance live but less people can watch live.
@richardbrobeck2384
2 жыл бұрын
@@tiredoldmechanic1791 for sure !
@robertmanley7556
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet a Case Wheel Loader !! I bet that pump is the problem .....you will have a it going in no time I have faith in you !!! 👍👍I love the rescue of old iron !!!
@bigone9678
2 жыл бұрын
Matt, thanks, I love these old machine repair vids. As an electrician in old, dirty, wet & acidic steel mills, I should tell you that shrink tubing will NOT keep out moisture, rust, or corrosion. Its a pretty looking waste of money by itself. I would recommend covering your exposed wire ends and crimped-on rings & forks with an electrically conductive grease like Penetrox (my choice). Put the grease on/in any old connections you take apart & put back together, especially if they are rusty or corroded. Goop it on your chassis ground connections & on battery terminals as well.
@pistolfarms3971
2 жыл бұрын
Introduced in 1965 after a five-year testing period, the model 645 was a medium-sized machine with a 2.5 cubic yard bucket, suited for all manner of applications, be it construction, aggregate handling, industrial or if equipped with log forks, forestry.
@daltongallagher2550
2 жыл бұрын
They are great old loaders
@daltongallagher2550
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 645 and a 745 both great machines
@pullimgsm
2 жыл бұрын
Fuel. Simple process. That does not involve jumping right to the injectors. 1st. Is fuel coming out of the tank. 2nd is fuel getting to the pump. 3rd is it pumping to the delivery lines. The one thing it shouldn't involve is running the starter motor till it is dying. Standadyne pumps have issues. You'll see.
@stevenfelix7092
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, what he said!!! Before you tear the pump apart, check the fuel filter, get a rubber bulb sucker and check the lines. Blow them out up to the injector pump and even up to the injectors.
@jimthode
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with pullimgsm, start at the source of fuel (the tank) and follow it to the injectors. There is no benefit in "bleeding" the return lines from the injectors, only the feed like to the injectors after you determine you have fuel to the injection pump and it should be pumping (not shut off).
@williamreeves5331
2 жыл бұрын
Go to Diesel Creek youtuber and ask Matt. He has, a Allis- fiat loader. I think they are really close to the same vehicle. It's worth a shot to find out some information.
@peddersmeister
2 жыл бұрын
Yep give Matt a shout 😁
@SalvageWorkshop
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, his Fiat- Allis 645b is pretty close to my AC 645, just a bit newer... I'd be curious what the updates are on a 645b vs the 645.
@how_to_hallagon1
2 жыл бұрын
His wife might be getting ready to shoot him though. Eva posted a new Instagram video.
@sallybrokaw6124
2 жыл бұрын
Curious to know how far back the Fiat-Allis connection goes. Maybe Fiat got AC into the wheel loader business. AC was into alot of industrial fields.AL B.
@jamisonrogers3222
2 жыл бұрын
Fair-allis bought Ac out around the mid 70’s atleast the construction equipment side
@deborahwebb3598
2 жыл бұрын
Matt, my husband and I enjoy your videos, he says it great to see a young man like you keep the old machines running. We restore classic cars and we love to see you keeping the classic machines alive, may you be blessed!
@jackvan8125
2 жыл бұрын
I used to work at the Allis Chalmers engine division in Harvey, Illinois. I very much recognize this engine as it was built on line 2 at the Harvey plant. Very good engine.
@thomasbailey8306
2 жыл бұрын
Dont take the GOVERN APART. The rubber piece on Governor is a cover to the Adjustment screw. Thats how you adjust how much air it builds up. Before it kicks off. If you take it apart you will be buying a new one...The 2 bolts you took off the top of compressor is the Valves to kick compressor to build air the governor forces one of them to build air or Bypass air...Usually the compressor gets oil from engine oil. Should be a return line and a feed line to compressor
@unti419
2 жыл бұрын
31:15 When she fired off, my closed captioning said [applause]. Kind of appropriate. Great video.
@tomswindler64
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you found another good one,even with or without issues.the previous owner looked like he did maintain the machines while they were in use,cared enough to keep them under shelter.good video as always,keep it up should be a interesting project.👍👍👍😎😎😎
@donaldowens3092
2 жыл бұрын
Start with the fuel filter, find out if fuel is moving from the tank to the filter before you go into the pump
@StealthDonut1
2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was active duty AF there were scads of birds nests in the hangars where the planes were sometimes put for maintenance. We learned after a time that bird crap can be quite caustic (depending upon the species I assume), so I can heartily recommend that the bird poop gets cleaned off when you get her home. It'll save you some paint at the very least!
@AllisChalmersMN
2 жыл бұрын
What a find! I’ve got a thing for old equipment but there’s a special place in my heart for anything named Allis.
@DarkFlamage
2 жыл бұрын
Doing a great job. The reason you get wins on these old beasts, is because you keep plugging away & don't get discouraged easily!
@sallybrokaw6124
2 жыл бұрын
Matt my book on Allis Chalmers first mentions the 3500 engine in the 7030 tractor of 1973.3500 Mark 2 whatever that means.426 cubits 4.25×5 inch bore and stroke.Engine was used in the 70 series tractors 7030 thru 7080. Look online for AC tractor manuals of those models and you might find tech manual for the engine. Hope you find this info buried in the comments. Lol! Also check with Watch Wes Work. He knows a lot of stuff. Good Luck! AL B in Ohio.
@RSCOZZY
2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic project series gets underway way! Gotta say, this beast looks in VERY original condition. Good luck Matt, will be watching with great interest 👍👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
@SBDavin
2 жыл бұрын
6:16 You said yours was #1289. I found the info below on an Allis Chalmers forum. Somebody was asking about their 645 that was serial number 1311. The answer they got was: "According to my serial # book your 645 would be a 1965. Starting # for 1966 was 1318. 3012 were made between 1965-1971."
@troublemakerfed
2 жыл бұрын
Some of those injector pumps use + to shut the fuel off not on.Good luck young man.
@nobuckle40
2 жыл бұрын
An adventure every time! Every time that thing would spit and sputter I was just hoping it would start and run. But like you said, you never know with old machines. I learn every time I watch. Thanks Matt.
@tomboysen7592
2 жыл бұрын
The thing on the aircompressor is the regulator for setting when it stops pumping air and when it starts pumping. Regulates the pressure in tanks Tom from Nebraska
@ProctoLogic
2 жыл бұрын
For old diesel engines i put a primer from a boat outboard tank to pump up the pressure and get the air out.
@korydoe4813
2 жыл бұрын
I just inherited from my late grandfather a fiat allis fr10 wheel loader. It's from the early eighties but looks very similar in size to this machine. Looking forward to this series!
@JoE_Songs
2 жыл бұрын
2:10 Dude. this beauty looks prestine. This family obviously took care of their vehicles. you got really lucky with the whole deal and circumstances. 2 out of 3 already awesome. what a find.
@rudie2902
2 жыл бұрын
The "Allis Chalmers 645 Wheel Loader Operator Owner Field Maintenance Manual guide" as well as "Allis Chalmers 645 Wheel Loader Parts Manual Caralog Assembly (prior to S/N 2032)" is available via the popular online sales site.
@TheFurriestOne
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, wiring on old machines, what fun! XD I've been working on an old 70's Hunterlift scissor-lift for a friend. Finally got the old Kohler two-cylinder gas engine running well, and the hydraulic pump has been replaced. Now I'm trying to figure out why the hydraulics aren't working and the direct-drive pump is getting hot! Lots of hoses, valves, relays, and wires to figure out, using a low-resolution one-page wiring diagram. As for WD40- They changed the formula, it's no longer flammable these days. The old stuff was!
@countryboysteve
2 жыл бұрын
That is a simple roosa-master style pump with electric shutdown. Apply some air to the fuel tank while cranking alot of times the shutdown will pop loose. If not pull the top cover being mindful of the spring and it's location gently free the rack arm and reassemble preferably with a new gasket. ( any pump shop or ebay 20.00) but be aware that these pumps have a rubber governor ring that comes apart after they sit which causes the glass check ball to plug up the most common scenario is they will run poorly for a short time then either go to a high idle or they will shutdown
@clintgoodson4657
2 жыл бұрын
That part with the plastic cap is the air compressor governor. The air compressor get its oil from the engine as well as coolant. you should have a hose or tube near the bottom back for oil supply from engine and a couple of tubes or hoses near the top for coolant in and out. oil return is usually from a hole in the front of the compressor and drains back to oil pan through the front c over. if its a gear driven air compressor. If belt driven it may have its own oil reservoir
@johnsecord9697
2 жыл бұрын
Wes at Watch Wes Work took an old Stanadyne apart and had to send it out after that. Too much magic inside. Don’t remember the name of the shop, but Wes was impressed with them. St. Louis? I think.
@alastairmckeown6590
2 жыл бұрын
Matt,It's great watching you with these old machines. I remember the old Allis Chalmer wheeled shovels, the coal board here in Scotland used them in the late 60's early 70's. I don't know anything about them sorry i was a truck driver hauling the coal.
@roballan4944
2 жыл бұрын
Those caps on the compressor are for valves. The round cap beside it is a governor or pressure regulator to tell the compressor to unload. It is fed by the engine with oil and drains back into the block.
@artsmith1611
2 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@clintonhanson
2 жыл бұрын
Talk to Wes over at watch Wes work about this allis as he or his dad may be able to give you some info on the year and such!
@kuntry7278
2 жыл бұрын
A farm machinery place i worked at had one of these front loaders. Tires always flat and the brakes didn't work. Throw it in reverse and give it a little gas to slow down.. Always made sure I took it slow.
@briansaier4929
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt ask Matt at the diesel creek channel he knows all about these Allis Chalmers loaders
@davidnaudi2601
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and he is very passionate about saving these old girls
@briansaier4929
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidnaudi2601 absolutely !
@ronaldbollinger950
2 жыл бұрын
You can probably get a IPB or an operator manual from Jensales in Mn.
@thomasstewart9368
2 жыл бұрын
You're gonna have some fun + learn a lot working on that old gal. In the early 80's I run a field service truck for a Allis Chalmers dealer. Mostly agriculture tractors + a few 645's + the old 705 fork lifts. That was 40 years ago & don't remember much about them. I thought those had a Roostmaster fuel pump? I still have a clear timing window for that pump in the tool box.
@rudigerhasselmann3601
2 жыл бұрын
The Allis Chalmers 645 looks like it was just parked. So beautiful, but very exotic cabin.
@rudycarlson8245
2 жыл бұрын
When I saw smoke start to appear out of the stack I’m like come old girl! You will have this old Machine running in no time!
@UnitCrane514
2 жыл бұрын
That is a really cool loader I love the split window like Terex rigs
@terrydown5389
2 жыл бұрын
You are doing a great job god bless you. Terry from UK
@skipstein744
2 жыл бұрын
Another great Allis find! I think the cab is cool and will save your 'new' seat. Onward!
@rossleach5881
2 жыл бұрын
Came to Australia in 1966 with the 546 replacing the TL16 & TL14 loaders. Worked on them when I was a apprentice diesel mechanic. They were a very good performer in their day. If your kind to to the transmission they are quite reliable. Best of luck with it, Mat on the "Diesel Creek" channel has one with forks only on it.
@rasmawik
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, I do enjoy following your journeys
@davidbohner692
2 жыл бұрын
You have done it again, finding a diamond in the rough. Keep working. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@marcosmota1094
2 жыл бұрын
You still rock and your measured approached is far wiser....we'll see you here, same Bat Channel!
@martinmicheal4595
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my my my that allis is so beautiful 😻
@bobjoncas2814
2 жыл бұрын
...good one, keep safe and well
@peternixon7167
2 жыл бұрын
Haha great find, I hope you've got plenty of room left back at your place, looks like you're going to need it. I always look forward to your videos, good work, and thank you for your videos. 👍👍👍
@markbehr88
2 жыл бұрын
Great looking machine
@haydenuk02
2 жыл бұрын
She sounds good. Great work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
@saliemi1
2 жыл бұрын
It was still a productive day Matt Salvage, hope day 2 is much better.
@andrewklahold2880
2 жыл бұрын
To tell you a bit more about flappers tree limbs love them very much if you use a flapper turn it around backwards so tree limbs close it and not break it off
@PAUL-1961.
2 жыл бұрын
WOW it does look in nice shape
@foxwhiskey
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Nice machine shown in a great vid. Thanks for posting. Hardly can't wait for the next steps (day 2) Best regards and greetings from Germany. JJ
@johnkeets8333
2 жыл бұрын
I would check ✔️ the fuel filter and the tank outlet to see if fuel is getting to the injectors pump and add some diesel to it as well.
@SootyDiesel81
2 жыл бұрын
Crack the line that comes from the filter housing to the injector pump see if it’s getting fuel That might be a wise idea
@Mr_Springy
2 жыл бұрын
Like the new opening piece. Tidy machine, looking forward to this project.
@baileysbeck
2 жыл бұрын
Put a garden sprayer in place of tank to prime
@b.abrackus6403
2 жыл бұрын
I know on most of the Allis chalmers diesel tractors of this vintage....the fuel shut off lever on the dash has to be (Pulled out) to start the engine...and pushed in to cut fuel... that is opposite of any other brand.....
@kerryevans7413
2 жыл бұрын
Another great looking Machine to revive back to life. Waiting for part 2
@magnificentshine1
2 жыл бұрын
I would check and make sure you're getting fuel to the injection pump from the lift pump or if it's gravity fed 1st before diving into the injection pump. My allis Chalmers loader crawler ended up having a clog of rust on the fuel line when I first got it.
@MoiPloy
2 жыл бұрын
what a treat
@samfountain9065
2 жыл бұрын
Chuck the starting fluid away get fuel to the injection pump with new filters, and then a few orings and bleed the air out and shell be running in your second video
@cwgreen1938
2 жыл бұрын
Why not get a jug of diesel and run a hose through an electric fuel pump to the injector pump and see if you get fuel to the injectors? If not it is probably not the tank crud stopping up the line and probably not the engine fuel pump so it may nhen be the injector pump problem. I don't think I would mess with the injector pump until I could prove the injector pump was the culprit. Good Luck. It sounded pretty good on starting fluid. You need to get all the leaks fixed in the exhaust system before it will run right.
@JamesThomas-gg6il
2 жыл бұрын
That's a very cool machine, and we can sum up everything I know about it in one word... nothing, but willing to learn.
@RustyNail5856
2 жыл бұрын
I Think you found a runner also, you just need to work the bug's out and she will be home soon , so you can give her a good going over, but that is a different video. she is in very nice shape.
@georgeanderson3754
2 жыл бұрын
Check fuel filter(s) and fill with fresh fuel. Will tell you if fuel problem is before or after filters. Enjoyed the vid.
@ronaldclark2624
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Nice Sunset! Ron PTL USA
@robertcobb6404
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy you working on these machines.
@shannonpontious3995
2 жыл бұрын
I Use to work on injection pumps for the 6.5 hmmwv in the military. the pump is very similar in nature. what i would do before ever taking it off the vehicle would be to, remove the cap holding that solenoid, remove as much fuel as i could then fill the chamber full of injection pump or fuel cleaner sit over night. almost always it would start after a good soak. i do empty the cleaner and replace with clean fuel before starting. the residual doesnt matter to much.
@shabadoo24
2 жыл бұрын
Just subbed, I remember seeing these used.
@richardbrobeck2384
2 жыл бұрын
One Thing that you have working for you is that Allis Chalmers was stored mostly out of the weather !
@alexisdeville3605
2 жыл бұрын
That is the Governor for the air compressor and that compressor runs off the engine oiling system, and the cover you took off the compressor are check valves !
@avrel820
2 жыл бұрын
You found another sweet vintage machine :-) i can't wait to see more
@tacticalrabbit308
2 жыл бұрын
Call area diesel service to get an idea what to do.
@SalvageWorkshop
Жыл бұрын
We've already worked together... you'll see that soon!
@adrianorourke2893
2 жыл бұрын
I noticed when you hooked up the power you got it wrong way round. It has a generator witch run positive earth where an alternator is negative earth. Keep up the good work saving those old machines.
@jonbarski938
2 жыл бұрын
good vids love it ive learn so much from you keep then coming...
@larrydavidson3402
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you got another piece of old iron to work on.I know that you will get this running next time.
@MinnesotaEric
2 жыл бұрын
This Allis Chamlers would have competed directly with the 1965ish Hough H60, H65 series. The Hough had more steering angle and better cab visibility. Brake wise you want to look at my restoration of my Hough H80 for retro-fitting modern power-clusters (the air over hydraulic master cylinders) in place of the overly expensive OEM part. This machine looks like it is in great shape. I do t think you’ve encountered a machine with air brakes before, and my advice is don’t be afraid of push-on air line fittings. Look to my playlists for the payloader restoration on my channel. I enjoy your content and wish I was as young as yourself!
@robertkutz
2 жыл бұрын
WOW LOOKING GOOD,SO COOL.
@kerrygleeson4409
2 жыл бұрын
Another great project thanks for sharing 🦘👍
@lifetwolive
2 жыл бұрын
the plugs on top of the air compressor are unloader values and the unit on the side with rubber cap is the pressure regulator they work together to start and stop compressor that nut and threaded bolt adjust the air pressure
@Piterworkshop
2 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Awesome video as ever.
@mikemiller8318
2 жыл бұрын
Things are looking good for now can't wait to see the next one 👍💪🔥🇺🇲
@baovi2086
2 жыл бұрын
Great job, finding the problem is usually the hard part.
@denisewebb
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for recording!
@vincentramirez8303
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. We're right here enjoying your content..looking forward to the next.
@jt_diesel
2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool
@FrequencyOfThought
2 жыл бұрын
That machine looks brand new brother I'd be stoked
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, Matt Salvage Workshop!
@marksieber4626
2 жыл бұрын
We’re here to watch the process. That’s what we like.
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi
2 жыл бұрын
Great find! Thanks for sharing
@jeffmcgee5394
2 жыл бұрын
Wd40 used to use propane as a propellant. Back then it was good for starting a diesel engine.
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