The money combo for Logan in this game is ending a ground series with c hk xx Fatal Claw. This typically isn't done as much in mvc1 because the super itself and combo overall does less damage plus worse - Fatal Claw is easily punished even on hit in that game. In mvsf, the opposite is true for both cases, especially the crazy damage. Do this combo after dizzy stun or when you land a hit outside of berserker rage mode. For pairing, Logan does better with somebody that backs him up with a ground based projectile assist (think Chun Li, Ryu, Akuma less so but still really strong) or something with armor, like what Hulk or CapAm/US Agent does as an assist. Cyke is never a bad choice but follow up and mix opportunities are limited with that assist and I think overall there are stronger characters than Cyke both individually and when it comes to team specific elements. Otherwise it's a good video and no real issues with the content. I'm all for frauds getting exposed on low effort and looking forward to the mvc1 entry in this series.
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
yeah the vid is more about getting people in on the floor for low effort just to start playing versus the meta pick. high reward for low effort so I thought wolvy was appropriate
@wej4life
17 күн бұрын
@@doogiesvery appropriate and I respect the restraint on picking him until this point. mvsf is his peak imo - it makes sense to do it here.
@2TonTonyGalento
18 күн бұрын
Captain America theme goes so hard.
@createprince2093
17 күн бұрын
whole OST does, this is my fave from the whole series
@N00BSYBORG
18 күн бұрын
It turns out it actually had less than 8 months. The 8 month gap between MSHVSF and MvC was for the console ports. The arcade releases were like 6 months apart. 5 months for the NA release. MSHVSF barely got enough time to learn how to walk.
@yusukeleiva
18 күн бұрын
Oh wow even smaller window huh
@wej4life
18 күн бұрын
@@N00BSYBORG mostly true but that depends greatly on how quickly your game center got a newly released game. mvsf came out mid 97, mvc1 as we know it released early 98. Still a very fast turnaround but not a whole lot shorter than how quickly the series moved from cota to msh to xvsf to mvsf. By contrast we effectively had two full years between mvc1 and mvc2 arcade releases.
@DDRFreak410
18 күн бұрын
I'm just imaging arcade operators who dropped money on the CPS2 cab kit, just for MVC1 to drop, 8 months later lol.. It kinda reminds me of the TEKKEN 5 Arcade/PS2 situation. Btw, big fan of the Scrub Busters videos. I'll definitely share a playlist of all of them to any friends who picked up this collection and plan to play any of the titles (especially outside of MVC2). Thanks.
@thejunkmanlives
18 күн бұрын
that happened a few times back then. i think super sf2 and super turbo was less then a year. alpha 1 was pretty much a beta version with alpha 2 coming less then a year later too.
@faceurhell
17 күн бұрын
@thejunkmanlives At least in the situation for Super Street Fighter II that game sucked and needed to be replaced. Plus Akuma is still him.
@wej4life
18 күн бұрын
I played the hell out of this game bitd and the reason for that stems from availability. Most gamerooms in my area, in college in particular had this available over xvsf, mvc1, mvc2 because all of those other games and more were in higher demand from distributors. I had the chance to really explore this game a bit more bc it was always there and it was cheap: 25 cents per play vs 50 or more for mvc1 & mvc2, depending on location. I genuinely enjoy this game, despite the low entry dumb stuff with Logan and Spiderman in particular. There's actually way more to it beneath the surface if anyone is willing to peel it back a bit. We haven't had a proper port of this game ever until mvcc came out and now we have it plus a training mode. This is good time for me in particular.
@Unlimited_Slip
18 күн бұрын
Back in the day, a schoolmate had a winkawaks rom with this and MvC1. I never did know what the hell I was doing in this game, but Ken and Sakura were my go-to. Good times!
@Ninten428cillman
16 күн бұрын
Same man good old winkawaks
@Riku_michael
18 күн бұрын
STOP MY DUDE IM TRYNNA PLAY THESE AND HAVE FUN
@kenmastersX
18 күн бұрын
And you can too! If you play Wolverine
@midwesternspectre
18 күн бұрын
Just completed Arcade mode on this one with Sakura/Hulk! IMO MSH vs. SF seems to be the most accessible in the colletion. Really loving this scrub busters series. I have a feeling Wolverine will also feature heavily in the MSH scrub busters if you choose to make it. I picked him on accident during an MSH ranked match and won despite having only messed with him briefly in the Training mode.
@mikaelamonsterland
18 күн бұрын
i think if it had as many people exploring it as any of the other games people would probably find more really busted stuff that will make it on the same level of cheapness as the other games but most people avoided this bc they looked either xvsf and mvc1 more
@Luffy2008
18 күн бұрын
Hulk does so much damage and the IA most of time doesnt even block you spamming HP 😂 cheesed a lot of fights this way
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
prob im running into with the MSH scrub busters is 2 of the chars will have been kinda covered before, but IDK if the third is necessarily easy. Spidey/Wolvy/IM ....
@midwesternspectre
17 күн бұрын
@@Luffy2008 smacking a jump in offense out of the sky with Hulk's HP is such a good feeling. You're just like, "Nah, I like you better on that side of the screen." lol
@trapgodthanos
18 күн бұрын
Great video but you didnt have to do my boy cyclops dirty with the thumbnail 😂
@tman1782
18 күн бұрын
Awesome thumbnail 😂 and i been loving this video series from you thank for the info bro
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@alexevaldez
18 күн бұрын
8 months gap to MVC? I'm surprised! No wonder it plays like that.
@thejunkmanlives
18 күн бұрын
this is def the forgotten vs game. i didn't see it until years later with emulation.
@KevinSkye1
18 күн бұрын
Crazy how MSH vs SF never had a chance, lowkey feel bad for arcade/cornerstore owners who dropped dime on it when it dropped only to throw it out when Marvel 1 came out.
@mikaelamonsterland
18 күн бұрын
it was mainly a filler release in between X-Men vs Street Fighter and mvc1 which both evolved the gameplay a lot more than this game did which only added assists and the assists aren't as good as mvc1 or 2
@thrillhouse4151
18 күн бұрын
This must’ve been the game we had at the skating rink, didn’t know it was so rare!
@averysimmons2478
17 күн бұрын
I love how this game was simple but the top tiers ( omega red and wolverine) went full dumb
@7thsaga662
18 күн бұрын
Bro, thank you. I'm low level as fuck. I truly appreciate your knowledge, man.
@RigbyIsTheMan
18 күн бұрын
Loving the mahvel content
@kaizerwave6185
7 күн бұрын
Good thing for all the MSH vs SF tech vids coming out. Its the only game that pops up in casual and ranked games online for me on pc...😅
@doogies
7 күн бұрын
I dont think I've had a single msh v sf match and I'm on PC and activate all games :/ fightcade wins again
@kaizerwave6185
7 күн бұрын
@@doogies Same here! I've been finding it strange too, cuz it's like, no matter the solutions I've tried, and how many different places I've been too with both my pc and steam deck, it's still the only game... I just went back to fightcade for MSH, since I can't get games for that on the collection 😑
@kenmastersX
18 күн бұрын
A+ thumbnail
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
thank you kenmastersx
@mikaelamonsterland
18 күн бұрын
i like playing double Blackheart and spamming air heavy buttons
@ewrooney
18 күн бұрын
It’s probably too late but all I ask is pleas do MSH the justice it deserves and make that vid last.
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
all these vids do pretty poorly but ill finish the collection
@ArchivePaparazziYT
4 күн бұрын
I love the reference to the 90's X-Men: The Animated Series cartoon from back in the day. "Tell Cyclops: I made him a convertible."
@scrubbadubbins4895
18 күн бұрын
Would you consider making Scrub Buster videos for games that are only really available/have a real online player base on Fightcade? You make old games really easy to understand and jump into, and a video like this for a game like Alpha 2 would be really helpful.
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
Thats the plan. Basically want to convert all my years of scrub level knowledge into vids to get people playing games I like
@co81385
18 күн бұрын
I hope that you cover MVC1 in this series!
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
coming up!
@NickGuy0320
18 күн бұрын
Any omega red sauce for this game?
@AegisNeglector
18 күн бұрын
A great channel to check out for tons of high level footage is CHAQN2. Scroll through the MSH vs. SF playlist, you'll definitely find some toxic Omega Red stuff. ;D
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
Lots. He's one of the best characters in the game but he's also a bit more try hard. Wolvy is for low effort lol
@devilcatv2
18 күн бұрын
This is one of my personal faves in this collection, I run Hulk/Blackheart. Very cheesy team 🧀🧀🧀 😺😺😺
@misterkeebler
18 күн бұрын
This is the one vid in this series that i was afraid to see you make, lol. Jokes aside, i guess it's not like people wouldnt eventually stumble across his meter build and speed up super cheese even by accident. In some ways, this game is my favorite to play prior to mvc2. But this wolverine alone is just one of the worst balanced characters ive seen in the franchise (im less familiar with umvc3 and infinite) in terms of effectiveness for ease of use. It's like everyone else from XvSF got nerfed and they forgot to hit the debuff button on wolvie. I'm only intermediate at best on this game, but it's developed a lot in recent years on Fightcade. Theres several strong characters and some really scary teams like omega red/shuma, but wolvie is probably the easiest to use and still likely or around top 1.
@tomasparant8901
18 күн бұрын
That meter gain is DISGUSTING!... ... ... ... ... *boots up MSHVSF on fightcade
@loxxhart
18 күн бұрын
doesn't the berserker install go too fast for the rollback? if so, you can cheese EVEN harder online lmaoooo
@LordRaptor
18 күн бұрын
0:47 Ah yes, I call them team easy mode, they're easily my best duo in this game, they have a pretty nasty THC too, but I actually don't do that much worse with Hulk as Wolverine's partner.
@LulzItsForge
18 күн бұрын
Hoping these scrub busters continue after you're done with the collection.
@doogies
18 күн бұрын
If you keep sharing with friends I will keep making
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