That SCUF controller is not overclockable. That is why after tou set it to 1000, the polling rate in the test didn't change. It was still 566. The PS5 controller is overclockable. That is why it did change. The Xbox controller isn't overclockable either.
@mickeyn.5059
11 ай бұрын
I've seen 4 people overclock the scuff, are you sure?
@User-gp2te
11 ай бұрын
Since when have scuffs not been overclockable ?
@User-gp2te
11 ай бұрын
Thought everybody been overclocking ?
@ez7up
11 ай бұрын
@@mickeyn.5059 Scuf Reflex' Are overclockable. the instinct and envision are not. The software allowing you (or showing as overclocked) does not mean the chip on the controller is overclocked In theory yes you can use the software to overclock the envision and the instinct but in practise it doesnt do anything
@dannyberry8725
10 ай бұрын
@@mickeyn.5059 only the controllers Scuff makes based off the PS5 controller.
@OoNervo
10 ай бұрын
DualSense reflex pro is the ultimate controller, the world's best millisecond controller
@jBiLLiGaN
8 ай бұрын
Great controller for sure
@steveski111
7 ай бұрын
That’s what I got and love it
@ALMNDPLAYS
10 ай бұрын
Do you have a video on the application/software to be installed for overclocking?
@OMG.IM.CODING
11 ай бұрын
I used to be an avid Scuff controller player, that is, until I got my Victrix controller (XBox/ PC), over a year ago. I love that controller. Not sure how to overclock controllers or if you can even overclock the Victrix but it plays as if it is. Superfast! Along with the hairline trigger stops, playing COD changed forever for me. I'm curious how this new Scuff Envision will play, wired.
@CptMalding
10 ай бұрын
I have the envision, both wireless and wired feel the same. It has been the best controller to me. And I have had the victrix, wolverine, elite series 2, BattleBeaver (Which I like), Scuf Instinc and Reflex (Which were shit). The envision to me is the most comfortable. That is my opinion though.
@alexatwood6205
9 ай бұрын
I returned my Victrix pro BFF because it’s polling rate locked at 250hz pretty much a Xbox controller
@illusion6477
2 ай бұрын
Cool controller but Xbox layout is a dealbreaker for me. I play double claw and that doesn’t work on Xbox layout at all
@jeffibuilt
10 ай бұрын
imagine being a gamer and thinking 1ms difference is going to make you better. not directed toward Lou. good video man!
@alan.74
7 ай бұрын
for me it did
@jeffibuilt
7 ай бұрын
@@alan.74 confidence, maybe. You couldn't measure 100ms let alone 1ms.
@alan.74
7 ай бұрын
i def feel the delay of 100ms@@jeffibuilt
@freddy5563
7 ай бұрын
It changes the whole feel of the controller G trust me if you go from a envision pro to an edge OC'ed to 8000hz you will feel like your sensitivity just 1.5xed (i know this for a fact cause i made the switch XD) the overall gameplay just became better in my case
@kocho7969
7 ай бұрын
You remind me of the people who said you couldn’t notice the difference from 60hz -> 144hz -> 240hz but then people proved you could notice that.
@DoSGamingNetwork
10 ай бұрын
I noticed that the black wired Scuf Envision (non pro) is the only version that states it has a "Low latency wired connection". The Pro states it has "ultra-fast wireless connectivity" but doesn't mention anything about it's wired capabilities. I wonder if the wired version will be overclockable.
@mikeernst8374
11 ай бұрын
Would like to see wireless test. There will probably be a difference. It's using the corsair wireless tech.
@L0ELIIFE
6 ай бұрын
The results are exactly the same.
@mhnoni
5 ай бұрын
@@L0ELIIFE I don't think it will I just made a test with my DS4 wireless and it gives me ~ 4ms with default 244hz And 2.1ms with 472hz when the BT pool rate set to 500 And 1.3ms with 770hz when the BT pool rate set to 1000 So I assume each of these controller will work with a different pooling rate when its connected to BT.
@L0ELIIFE
5 ай бұрын
@@mhnoni it’s been tested and the results are the same. There are a few different folks who’ve tested this on YT. One of the people who come to mind is GamerHeaven but others have done so as well. Maybe vCuda. But yeah the results are out there.
@vlimbs
3 ай бұрын
Ive noticed that overclocking the Scuf Envision Pro doesn’t do anything. Ive done test’s with the USB & wireless. Funny enough, im getting a better polling rate & consistent ms ranging from 0.9-3.0
@kane5429
11 ай бұрын
You should always use 1000 when testing the sample
@mhnoni
5 ай бұрын
its number of samples, the more the average will be more accurate. but yeah, 1000 is more than enough
@Steadyhi
6 ай бұрын
Hey next time could you think about putting the results for each controller in the description as well 🤙🏽
@BlankUserVR
11 ай бұрын
Yo, do a test comparing the envision wired, bluetooth and dongle connected
@cameronbrooks8288
4 ай бұрын
where is the program to download the overclock ???
@XIHAVENONAMETAGX-kh5ge
7 ай бұрын
Did you said you have stick drift on the Envision already????
@staylx6947
9 ай бұрын
Good video ! I swear I look for the latency controller software that you have what is the name of this ? Or can I find it and where ? Please answer me !
@Garrett120hz
11 ай бұрын
Can you compare with the elite 2 controller over wireless ms receiver and the scuf? Input delay that is.
@RoCardinas
7 ай бұрын
if you use an elite 2 controller your at a disadvantage
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
Interesting mine only reports 2. -3. I tried different ports and multiple different times at first i thought it was me but after watching others test seems as though you are the only one getting that speed would you be willing to test that controller on another pc I’m wondering if you just got a better controller or if it’s your pic it self because I can still return mine if I have gotten a dud
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
Bump
@Max.-_
21 күн бұрын
Bump 2
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
21 күн бұрын
@@Max.-_ good luck lol
@keytone7055
8 ай бұрын
Where can I download the software used to test input delay in this video?
@scorpion47aka
11 ай бұрын
the paddles are working as designed after OC ? In my case i broke my instinct pro after this action some time ago i feel that the controller has only one memory slot custom for profiles . and not posssible to remap one paddle even iif it bright white when you try tormap it. take care of your controller !
@Rado_
11 ай бұрын
Could you do a size comparison test with the Reflex? Is it bigger?
@OllieWWillie
11 ай бұрын
It's bigger, and for anyone with small hands the paddels on the back are useless
@seanmay148
11 ай бұрын
can this controller be used without ICUE??? it seems that it ONLY works if ICUE is installed but id rather not use ICUE if i can help it and just use it like any other controller for the PC
@jessejohnson9369
11 ай бұрын
wait i really hope you see this and respond you said if i overclock my controller to 8000 instead of a 1000 i can get FPS drops and stuff is that really true
@timmypowers5926
4 ай бұрын
Yep
@lucasv4
11 ай бұрын
Gamer heaven made a video about this controller, he could’t overclock it either
@L3kVn
5 ай бұрын
What program did you use to test the input lag
@johanjotun1647
11 ай бұрын
But the extra back triggers its like they are cohoots, you must choose speed for better controls
@Quit.1
6 ай бұрын
Hey I have a question do the scuf controller work in ds4 windows ?
@old-skoolz
11 ай бұрын
After jumping into the Scuff hype wagon, I bought me a Scuff Instinct Pro, and I'm just three months m, I started getting stick drift on the right Joystick. Never again I'll buy a Scuff controller in my life. Now I bought a FlyDigi Vader 3 Pro, best controller ever, which replaced my Victrix Gambit, and ThrustMaster eSwap Pro
@Onyachi
4 ай бұрын
You know that the drift comes from dust on the joystick sensors and you can fix it in 5 min by popping the joystick off since you can do that on Scuf controllers and opening the green thing and cleaning it with a q-tip. There are plenty of tutorials on KZitem.
@sreekumar604
6 ай бұрын
can you put link for the test software
@tizianomazzone8247
6 ай бұрын
when i try to overclock my pads (both envision pro and edge) they appear like red, probably an error? do you know why?
@NickyBeams
6 ай бұрын
You have to turn off secure boot in your bios
@DolanHD
11 ай бұрын
What's the verdict?
@Kregg616
11 ай бұрын
I just bought Envision pro and i can only get mine OC to 491 hz. any idea how you were able to get a higher OC. I have it set to 1000
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
Mine is 300hz
@krisdegrusha2350
9 ай бұрын
How do you test this?
@Max.-_
21 күн бұрын
Same bro wtf
@fryrodz676
10 ай бұрын
How about the instinct pro controller? How much imput lag does it have? Haven't seen a video about it.
@hyphygonshoot
5 ай бұрын
alot
@RevivedGamerHD
11 ай бұрын
Hey do you know how i can fix the stick drift i tried raising the deadzone on the app but it made it feel like i was on 20 deadzone and i couldnt make any minute adjustments to my aim
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
I personally leave all the deadzones on that app at 0 and then just change it on cod. It seemed much more snappier and helped my aim but just switching in in cod
@eddiewardsautogaming9096
9 ай бұрын
I'm having similar problems this controller definitely has quality control issues.
@andresmiguel2573
11 ай бұрын
So it’s naturally faster than ps5 but slower when overclocked?
@ryanjacobson7394
6 ай бұрын
Why would it be slower when overclocked that makes no sense
@Fizz439
8 ай бұрын
@louwhie how are you getting 0.7? I can only get 0.9
@Fizz439
8 ай бұрын
What motherboard do you use?
@Anebuis
11 ай бұрын
It is weird to me that no one has noticed, but this is just a Scuf Vantage 2; instead of PS4 and a volume slider. It is PC and has G buttons where the volume slider was. This controller has a lot of the same (non-software) features that the Vantage 2 had. Oddly enough, people hated the Vantage 2; but love this controller? Although yeah has mechanical buttons, etc. but it really is a re-skinned and updated Vantage 2. They should have just launched as "Scuf Vantage 3"; but I can see why they didn't do that. As that controller wouldn't sell.
@User-gp2te
11 ай бұрын
.75 ms !???? Howww bruh the lowest I ever see was .9 I got mines plugged into the best usb 3 port connected to mobo an I got it overclocked same way n same program
@Fizz439
8 ай бұрын
I get 0.9 too
@User-gp2te
8 ай бұрын
yeah idk@@Fizz439
@Raullives
11 ай бұрын
I have a SCUFF REFLEX PRO i can overclock to 8000 polling rate why do you only have 1000?
@jBiLLiGaN
8 ай бұрын
How do u do 8000 polling rate the drop down option only goes up to 1000??
@AoQiz
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I see the math but in game the envision feels more responsive idk why
@EDMVornax
11 ай бұрын
Scuf Envision work on DS4 Windows?
@yadielandujar3563
3 ай бұрын
Noo
@User-gp2te
11 ай бұрын
What the best 240 monitors for comp 2023 ?
@Frostthescottishfold
11 ай бұрын
Lg oled stupid 27 inch
@steveski111
7 ай бұрын
Or the Asus variant 240hz oled
@eddiewardsautogaming9096
10 ай бұрын
Im really not impressed with the envision at all. I really wanted it to be great. The triggers and sticks are way to sensitive. You cannot overclock it without issues like losing aim assist and you cannot put stick extensions on without it hitting the case limiting your movements. They definitely need to make some improvements
@TheSpenceBoogie
10 ай бұрын
Lies lol
@eddiewardsautogaming9096
10 ай бұрын
@TheSpenceBoogie definitely not lies I'll be on stream tonight and will show you exactly what I'm talking about with the exception of overclocking it again because it's pointless. I will however show I'm running it not overclocked. You literally have to set the trigger deadzone high enough or they constantly go off by themselves.
@TheSpenceBoogie
9 ай бұрын
🧢
@eddiewardsautogaming9096
9 ай бұрын
@TheSpenceBoogie You can say cap all you want, but you can't argue with live video evidence 😂. Hopefully the newer versions will work a little better. I love the controller they just have to make a few adjustments.
@TheSpenceBoogie
9 ай бұрын
bruh saying the trigger and sticks are way to sensitive when you can literally adjust both of them is crazy lol
@michaelangelopollante135
6 ай бұрын
you can even go up to 8000hz on that ps5
@skunkymule6993
11 ай бұрын
I bet Future drivers can change this
@illusion6477
2 ай бұрын
Might just be the chip that they use tbh. It seems hard ware locked. If they made it with 1k polling rate it’d be an instant cop for me. Looking at these numbers and know that ps5 controllers Can overclock to 8000hz which means .125ms response time, it’s a no brainer that the scuf reflex pro is most likely the best option for a pro custom controller with the lowest delay
@RevivedGamerHD
11 ай бұрын
my right stick has drift and the outter paddles are hard as fuck to use, the edge is so much better than this disappointing controller
@BeHempy
11 ай бұрын
Cap
@RevivedGamerHD
11 ай бұрын
@@BeHempy and why exactly would i be capping my controller literally came out with stick drift, the paddles are hard to press im not lying brother lmao
@chrischand5082
11 ай бұрын
Will this work on ps5 with a brook converter, wingman fgc maybe?
@3GsRuthless
11 ай бұрын
Iv switched to my edge controller. Just wish it was 4 rear buttons but I can get by with it and adjust. Response time is quicker than the 2 trash hypr custom controller I have. Able to switch out the thumb sticks is a total W
@eddiewardsautogaming9096
9 ай бұрын
People saying cap clearly haven't purchased this controller themselves. I have a troll all over my comment sticks won't center and the triggers constantly register even when sitting on a table lol. Having to immediately set the deadzone at 3 or above on a brand new controller is not cool. I'm very disappointed in this one
@calebkhamvan5164
11 ай бұрын
Can you use on ps5?
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
No you can’t boss only pc
@chrischand5082
11 ай бұрын
@@Louwhie, would it work with the brook wingman fgc adapter?,
@DaLions_Den
11 ай бұрын
On a side note, I overclocked to 8000 hz and been having frame drop, appreciate that
@Tomogara
9 ай бұрын
what program did you use? for 8k
@TheOneAresHD
7 ай бұрын
Does not change anything at 8k there are multiple videos and forums on that. Waste of time doing it.
@DaLions_Den
6 ай бұрын
@@TheOneAresHD it's the opposite actually,, Frames dropping in rocket league when at 8000 hz
@TheOneAresHD
6 ай бұрын
@@DaLions_Den It does not on a mid to high end gaming machine. Been tested by many creators. But it’s all good. Just like how there are 8k mice and keyboards. I use both daily no issues. Matter of specs. 👍
@DaLions_Den
6 ай бұрын
@@TheOneAresHD bro I've seen it with my own eyes irdc what anyone else has to say go have a life bud
@t_pagz
11 ай бұрын
Your left stick already has drift?
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
Yup, I talked about it in my first video
@shipwreck19
11 ай бұрын
I bought a scuff instinct pro about 2 months ago and soon as I received it, it had stick drift. Although they were pretty fast about the RMA I feel like I shouldn’t have to spend )$250 on a controller just to wait for it to show up for two weeks before o then be disappointed and have to return my BRAND NEW controller to get repaired. So from the time of purchase to the time I actually got to use the controller was about a month. Since getting my controller back within two weeks the B button is already getting stuck…… I hardly even use the buttons because I use the paddles. I see they at least dropped the price for this one a bit but as I can see still hitting you with the ole left stick drift right out the gate. That’s gonna be a easy pass for me😂😂😂have a good day man.
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
@@shipwreck19 I’ve been liking my controller but that stick drift is getting to me. I feel like this big of a company should always run tests on these controllers before they ship them out.
@neestor1000
11 ай бұрын
scuf ps5 FPS vs PS5 normal!!! GG
@neestor1000
11 ай бұрын
link imputTes?????
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
just look up polling rate test controller on google and it is the first link on github
@Zero-lt3ne
10 ай бұрын
You are moving the stick so slow
@kane5429
11 ай бұрын
U always stay hovering over the thing ur overclocking u dont need to click the item . Maybe watch shottzy overclock tutorial
@MuseR.
11 ай бұрын
For some reason the envision feels faster than my ps4 🤷
@Clozdss
11 ай бұрын
It is still faster it's naturally faster so even with an overclock it's going to be more consistent instead of a digital overclock
@kane5429
11 ай бұрын
Bro u have to use 1000 samples . These tests arent correct.
@kerim_og_9378
11 ай бұрын
lol no the more samples you use, the more correct they are
@scurah
10 ай бұрын
1 ms isnt gonna be noticable at all. For anyone that is unaware, there is 1k milliseconds in a second, and if you think you're gonna notice a 1/1000 delay, then let me know what you're smoking.
@camofern4758
2 ай бұрын
Did you run numbers on the scuf envision when on Bluetooth? Just curious what the response time is wireless
@SxKooL_
9 күн бұрын
Can you feel the 7ms Input delay from the Xbox Controller in competitive gaming?
@JaaySnipes
3 ай бұрын
I switched back to PS5 i csnt deal with this bullshit just to play cod
@ByeBaybe
4 күн бұрын
yeah but how does the controller feel
@KeegBennett
11 ай бұрын
looks like the polling rate is only capped to 563hz over 1k? hmm whats the reflex pro and instinct pro have usually for input delay? or even the elite v2 ?
@DoZiDoz.
7 ай бұрын
Anyone know the speed when it’s connected wirelessly with the dongle? I wanna use it wirelessly but if it’s faster wired I’ll just use that.
@zefte
8 ай бұрын
I dont know if tis just me but when I use this controller when plugged in it feels faster than when wireless, despite how it is supposedly ultra fast wireless.
@User-gp2te
11 ай бұрын
What USB C CORD U USING ?
@BAG97
10 ай бұрын
you doing everything right some fanboys just like living in denial my bro. anyone and their G mama knows DS5 is superior
@Hana-nd1hd
4 ай бұрын
does anyone know why my envison pro's polling rate changed to around 400hz after I tried overclocking it
@Ventus702
7 ай бұрын
Disclaimer this doesn't really have to do with your video but it does controllers. Hey I have used many controllers in the past so far since the new updates to the ps5 controllers where you can boost the overclock to 8000 I only really want to play with ps5 controllers. I heard you talk about the ps5 edge I have used a Battle bever and a ps5 amazon paddle installation but have not tried the ps5 scuf or the ps5 edge So I was wondering if you have tried either and how you feel about them I was looking at getting one of those 2 or this one but now that I know its capped at 1000 and has issues I will be looking at the ps5 edge or scuf.
@blackhawkrex4369
11 ай бұрын
i just bought the Gamesir t4k controller 1.7MS AND 911HZ it has 2 rear buttons, its cheap but the performance u get out of it is insane.
@progz5232
11 ай бұрын
I did like that controller but after awhile I noticed my hands started to bother me. Then I noticed that the controller is smaller than even a xbox controller towards the part where you place your hands. I had to return it.
@scragglie
11 ай бұрын
gamesir? YESSIR.
@jdnybeta2alpha662
8 ай бұрын
I couldn’t be more pissed. Why tf make a pc controller that’s not the fastest!
@jfprograma4004
4 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing this information, can you retest on wireless connection?
@juandevicente4746
Ай бұрын
Does the Scuf Envision works with the Ds4 ?
@FrostysPov
7 ай бұрын
Damn so i been sleeping on ps5 controller on pc 😢
@verxsaofficial
10 ай бұрын
how can i get this latency test cuz i wanna check my dualsense edge
@ChidoriVoid
11 ай бұрын
Do you know what the latency of a ps4 controller is?
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
PS4 controllers overlocked are 1ms if not a little lower
@freeone69
11 ай бұрын
the powerA xbxox controllers have 4ms delay out the box cuz higher pollingrate than standard xbox controllers. u can go to 1k but no real benefit.@@Louwhie
@FreStyle3D
11 ай бұрын
It's .5 for ps4 controller and .00 for ps5. At least that's what I see on ds4windows.
@mhnoni
5 ай бұрын
I just made a test with my DS4 wireless and it gives me ~ 4ms with default 244hz And 2.1ms with 472hz when the BT pool rate set to 500 And 1.3ms with 770hz when the BT pool rate set to 1000 I doubt you will see a difference < 5ms. so all looks good IMO.
@kenadams894
4 ай бұрын
Does the controller keep the overclocking after it’s plugged into a different device? Like if i plugged it into the ps5 after overclocking it on my pc.
@timmypowers5926
4 ай бұрын
No it doesn't need oc on console it's already native to the ps it's not actually the controller getting oc it's the USB port it's plugged into
@djrlive
11 ай бұрын
my scuf envision is pulling bad numbers idk why
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
Same here read my post just below yours
@djrlive
11 ай бұрын
@@JaYgRiFfSTuBe yeah when i overclock my ps5 scuf its .9 and the envision won’t go under 2
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
@@djrlive well this guy has 1.7 so I’m wondering what he got going on they should all have the same board
@djrlive
11 ай бұрын
@@JaYgRiFfSTuBe yeah that had me hella confused but i think it’s cause he was spinning the stick before he opened the test. Cause when i open the test then spin the stick the first number that pops up is like 1000ms which brings the average way up
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
@@djrlive hmm I’ll try that but I don’t thin it will change
@3GsRuthless
11 ай бұрын
Guys how do i do this overclock on my PS5 edge controller? I tried before on a custom ps5 controller from hypr(dont buy from them btw, they are trash and ignore your issues) and it bugged my controller, specifically cutting off the left thumbstick functions and not OC at all.
@59Enzoo.
2 ай бұрын
you need to install a software
@newpops8294
11 ай бұрын
Appreciate this video man!
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@StrosB4Hos
11 ай бұрын
How does it feel in hand compared to the ds5? I have a dual sense edge im and I dislike it, it feels so huge in hand it’s uncomfortable imo. but I do notice the difference compared to the Xbox controller I have. I haven’t even OC’d it and it feels much more responsive. I’m hoping the wireless mode is similar polling rate and response time. I wouldn’t see why not all my mice g pro super light all have high polling rate that feels no different from a wired mouse.
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
Someone on reddit did the wireless polling test and it wasnt too far off my numbers. Envision definitely feels smaller then the Edge in hand.
@nicholasvitter4236
11 ай бұрын
It’s smaller then the edge and feels great in hand, the ergonomics are good but if you want to use all of the buttons it takes some getting used to.
@elijnr
11 ай бұрын
@@nicholasvitter4236did you get the regular envision or the pro?
@NardDogFPS
11 ай бұрын
You can’t see the input delay while using it wirelessly?
@Louwhie
11 ай бұрын
Yes you can I didn’t test it that way but it would be the same test just with the usb receiver.
@NardDogFPS
11 ай бұрын
So what’s the ms results for input delay when testing wirelessly?
@JaYgRiFfSTuBe
11 ай бұрын
@@Louwhie do you think the last firmware update they pushed dropped the speed ? I’m currently try to roll mine back but can’t find the old firmware you are the only one getting these amazing numbers
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