A man with one clock knows what time it is. A man with two clocks is never sure. A man with one meter knows what the voltage is. A man with two meters is never sure. 😁
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely the case here!
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
But with three meters, you have a reasonable level of confidence if (at least) two of them read the same. Although you COULD be unlucky that the two meters have experienced identical drift, and it is the third meter that shows the good/best reading. Mind you, a good reference that has been aged for 10+ years seems to drift very little (as my 34401A and 3458A has shown)
@IanScottJohnston
2 жыл бұрын
Certainly the 3065 looks to be a Keysight 34461A on a budget, half the price!......depending on which of the five 3065 models you buy! A shame about the voltage reference in the 3065 but if used in a stable, well controlled temp/humidity environment it probably won't be that bad (aging aside)......and I guess you can't really complain at that price. How repeatable/stable the 6.5 digits is would be fun to see.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
It's tempting to modify it, but I have no means to really check if I've made any appreciable difference.
@treadmillrepair754
Жыл бұрын
Nobody needs a 6,5 digits multimeter or more. I work fixing High End Audio equipment for 30 years, now I am using a Siglent SDM3045x for testing without any problem.
@ddrl46
2 жыл бұрын
They certainly have taken a very good look at the UI and mechanical design of the Keysight 3446xA series, same goes for their new HDP4000 series of power supplies...
@TheDefpom
2 жыл бұрын
This is very close to the Siglent SDM3065X and SDM3055 versions too.
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
It would be really interesting with a comparitive review of the very similar GW Instek GDM 906X and Siglent SDM 3065X. GW Instek, based in Taiwan, have a great track record for design and build quality, and the prices seems to be similar to the Hantek models.
@mikeselectricstuff
2 жыл бұрын
The screen and panel layout is such a blatent copy of the Keysight! Might be interesting to upgrate the reference and look at how good the rest of it is in terms of linearity, drift etc.
@greg_f298
2 жыл бұрын
Ripping off other companies designs guarantees I wont buy it. Why trust a company that cheats instead of putting the R&D into developing their OWN innovative products
@twipsy2047
2 жыл бұрын
Wait what? I haven't watched this completely yet but I'm already baffled. The housing and the UI are a clear rip-off from Keysight devices, so far - so obvious. But the calibration certificate brings this to a whole new level. Not only is the font and the layout a 1:1 copy - even the texts are the same. If you look at it closely at 3:11 it even says "Keysight Technologies" at least three times. Even the equipment numbers are the same as the ones on the real Keysight certificates.
@JohnDoe4321
2 жыл бұрын
Chinese manufacturer copying the design of an established brand? I'm shocked! 😛
@twipsy2047
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe4321 Well, it's not like it would surprise me that the copied almost everything. But I'm surprised that they've been so lazy that they didn't even bother to replace those texts. Wouldn't be surprised if the signature is also just a copy of an original Keysight one. Honestly i'd be surprised if this thing ever came in contact with a Fluke 5520A during "calibriation" (if there ever was one).
@RS-ls7mm
2 жыл бұрын
If you look on ebay you can find all the latest keysight (and others) for sale from china (seals broken). The chinese have no concept of copyright laws. We really should not be doing business with them.
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
@@RS-ls7mm copying a design and look-and-feel is not necessarily illegal. There is no such thing as copyright laws for design as you seem to think. It is Patents that protect design and technology, and restrict what you are allowed to copy (without a license), and those patents are only valid/enforcable for the countries where they are registered.
@radman999
2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@jimquinn
2 жыл бұрын
Love to hear or read comparison with Rigol DM3068, low mV, SCPI, etc..... Thank you for your work!
@Nik930714
2 жыл бұрын
Ive had really bad experience with 2 equipments from Hantek in the past. One was a scope that would crash, not trigger properly and had around 10% error on the vertical scale (and each day it was somehow different). All of those issues were confirmed by me and 2 other engineers in the lab, just to make sure it was not an operator error. Also the UI was really unintuitive and slow the display would flicker when someone was making coffee When i wrote to customer support about those issues they answered "well the sample we have in our office does not have those problems" and they stopped answering. The other was a current probe. That one was working whenever it wanted to work. After i re-soldered all the components it became a bit more stable. I added some decoupling caps and it did work diecently after that. For the price it was still not worth it. If they have started to actually design and manufacture diecent stuff i may even consider them at some point. May be worth to keep an eye on them. Keep up the good work at bringing light to affordable equipment. I hope this one is as good as it looks at first glance.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I did purposely have these running for many weeks rather than rushing into the review, so far no bugs identified, but there is always the same issue when dealing with budget equipment - I'll report back if I have any problems with these!
@TMS5100
2 жыл бұрын
I'd still spring for an ebay agilent 34401a or keithley 2001.
@Nik930714
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics It really speaks to your integrity as a reviewer that you've had those instruments running and were looking for bugs. And yes problems are common with budget gear. Some budget brands are just worse than others.
@treadmillrepair754
2 жыл бұрын
Usually chinese companies refuse to validate the warranty. HP suport is inexistent, if you have a problem forget it, they no not resolve anything.
@dannyperry8070
2 жыл бұрын
great reviews. You go through great lengths to make your presentations.
@brianwood5220
2 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of kit, thanks for sharing Steve.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@trickyrat483
2 жыл бұрын
Admit it - you left those shipping screen protectors on just to annoy me. :)
@t1d100
2 жыл бұрын
I have heard other YTers say that they leave the plastic on, because it helps with reflections, glare, etc., when videoing.
@felixokeefe
2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see that they spin a slightly different PCB for the 3055 Vs the 3066. I was expecting to see the same PCB with some parts omitted etc.
@zopilotesky3014
2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking units! Thanks for the review.
@radman999
2 жыл бұрын
Siglent and Rigol are better bet for China brands, IMO
@uni-byte
11 ай бұрын
The HDM3065B POS is now selling for more than the Siglent SDM3065 in some places. Insane. Why would anyone buy the Hantek? One thing the Hantek comes with is a complete lack of support. Your on your own (just like UNI-T).
@vincei4252
2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I have Keithley SMU and Multimeter that just walking into the room affects the readings at 7.5 digits. Keep meaning to build a shielded measurement enclosure with Triax connectors but haven't gotten that project to the top of the pile.
@HannesMrg
2 жыл бұрын
What do you measure with this kind of accuracy?
@Ratchet_effect
2 жыл бұрын
The fuses say it all 'HOLLY' you better Pray! that Keysight don't! do an Apple & take you to court, for clearly ripping a design off, further insult is the voltage references!! I bet you left the screen protectors on for a' KZitem short peel 'Oh Yeah' in a deep sexy voice 😂🤣👍🏻
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I'll take off the screen protectors once I find a place in the lab for them to sit. I have a big pile of stuff on the floor which needs a place on my bench!
@Ratchet_effect
2 жыл бұрын
I know Steve! I was just kidding, I know you'll do the right thing. I know how that goes too! I was looking at a bunch of items last-night thinking, I'll find a place tomorrow but.. it's still sitting there looking pretty, waiting for its new slot. I ponder a lot! why do I keep all this & how, do I manage to find a way of squeezing it in, every time I buy! The mind boggles but we keep doing it :)
@hqiu6828
2 жыл бұрын
Having read some comments, saying it is copy or rip-off, which is quite ridiculous! The voltage references are different, this one max6325, the keysight one LM399, so different design even though similar structure. BTW, Hantek is a great company with thousands of electronic engineers.
@Recovery_Drone
3 ай бұрын
Good morning, Professor. I'm thinking of buying a multimeter like this, but I'm afraid that it will have a problem and I'll have it broken, because there is no assistance in Brazil. Has he ever given any problems? I'm between it and the Rigol DM858. Hug.
@laurentcadet6523
2 жыл бұрын
After some quick research on mouser, it seems that the "best fit" (as long as the package and the different in/out pins are concerned) is one of the MCP3562R or MCP3564R. 24bits up to 153ksps deltaSigma ADC with +/- 7ppmFSR of INL (at best) and max 2ppm/°C Gain Error tempco (at best).
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for investigating - I'll read up on it.
@MrCapacitator
2 жыл бұрын
They should change the "Design in China" to "Copied in China" blatant rip off of Keysight. Saying that I was tempted and the first thing I would have done is replace whatever crappy electrolytics they use for Nichicons but then I saw chip number scrubbing and that finished my interest, I refuse to support manufacturers who practice this. What are they scared someone will copy their copy of Keysight 🤣🤣🤣
@HannesMrg
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Are there plans to take a look at other "cheap" equipment? Hantek for example also have cheap scopes. I have the 6022be which is a super cheap (under 50 bucks) usb oscilloscope which does an awesome job for the price. Good (expensive) tools are awesome, but the cheap ones are quite fun and often not even that bad for hobby use.
@Dextermorga
2 жыл бұрын
I would avoid super cheap equipment. rather go for a $160 handheld scope with gen integrated from owon (new models)
@raindropsrising7662
Жыл бұрын
Been using the 3055 for a month now. It is surprisingly good at a reasonable price point. I think these are well designed and built, which is quite far off from their previous products. I also got their new linear 4-channel power supply. It was very reasonable in price as well. Love their new direction with these new generation of products - 5.5 & 6.5 multimeters and the linear power supplies.
@Stu66orn
5 ай бұрын
What do you think of it now?
@ivolol
2 ай бұрын
Note for Analog Devices reference, their B grade part is the best at 1-3ppm, not the A part. Unless you saw the A part on the meter.
@abdoolgafoor670
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review i dont think you mention the weight of the meter, The Amazon site list it as having 1 pound, is that correct?
@TheEmbeddedHobbyist
2 жыл бұрын
if you had an issue with the cal why would you need to contact Keysight? Could they not have copied one of their own cal cert’s? That certificate just don't read right. Think i'll stick with my 5 1/2 and 6 1/2 digit HP's
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Even the envelope is a copy!
@briansauk6837
2 жыл бұрын
The last Keysight meter I got (1.5 years ago) came with the generic calibration “passed” certificate. However, I was able to get an online report of my specific meter’s results for each range. That was an unexpected surprise. Not sure if they are still doing that.
@tanishqbhaiji103
2 жыл бұрын
I just don't pay this much for chinesium technology.
@tomallen6073
Жыл бұрын
Looks to me siglent is a step up. Won’t be buying one of these, think I’ll just go for the Agilent. Cheap piece of crap.
@paulosanchesgoncalves5567
2 жыл бұрын
good evaluation, thanks
@SidneyCritic
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I know what's going on - lol -, but what do you do with the code when the FPGA goes wrong. Other stuff you reprogram the bios or a ROM - usually with something off another unit -, but where does the code for the FPGA reside. From memory there is code to set the gates, another for the actual program, and they get loaded when it starts, so if it goes wrong does the whole unit end up in the bin as unrepairable.
@HwAoRrDk
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that they chose to use a SATA cable for the connection to the serial interface board. I wonder why? Is the RS232 on a different pair of pins to the RS485? In that case, perhaps a SATA cable happened to be a convenient off-the-shelf shielded dual pair cable.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's purely convenience.
@jaro6985
2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they use the same connection style for the GPIB port, which has way more signals, so for the RS232 it ends up overkill. They might also use it for RJ45 but I couldn't see anything on the silkscreen.
@Mrdibzahab
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. I always wonder who really needs 6.5 digits of precision. What kind of real-world applications could benefit from it?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Probably not many that need 6.5 digits of absolute precision, but it can be really useful to see what's going on in a circuit - even simple things like battery charging you can see the voltage creeping up.
@IanScottJohnston
2 жыл бұрын
Very useful in ohms mode to have the resolution when trying to locate shorts on a Pcb. 5.5 digits sometimes doesn't cut it. I have an 8.5digit DMM but thats another story...:)
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
@@IanScottJohnston and even better with in 4-wire mode, using a pair of kelvin clamp tweezers (or probes) to eliminate the probe wire resistance from the measurements :)
@ДаудМухамеджанов
2 жыл бұрын
It is very useful when you are: university rat like me, doing characterisation during QA of produced boards, Doing very analog designs, measurement and anything that is related to it.
@thephlophers
2 жыл бұрын
the only real use I've had for a 6.5 digit meter has been checking my other lesser multimeters :)
@ivicajanco9921
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for comparison and the tear down. Can't wait to see the review.
@antibrevity
2 жыл бұрын
I suggest wiping the stock probes with IPA before doing your first continuity test as they always seem to have a layer of something on them. Once wiped, they generally perform just as well as gold-plated probes. If fast response is important for a particular task, it may also be worth doing the IPA wipe before future use as well, but I wouldn't bother doing this every time.
@RK-kn1ud
Жыл бұрын
I've seen videos on the internet that basically show what you explain, and there may be some truth to that. However, I've literally used the most disgusting and insufficient wiring as makeshift multimeter probes with my Fluke 87V and have never experienced any issues checking continuity down a chip that required a microscope to view and not have never had to slow down because my equipment couldn't keep up with me. We're talking probes covered in lanolin, cosmoline, bearing grease, engine oil, transmission fluid, dielectric grease, snow, ice, DOT 3/4. You name it, I've probably inserted a probe into it to check continuity. I'd be very interested to understand why my 87V doesn't care about anything yet the XXX3055 I just ordered is so selectively inept.
@zaprodk
2 жыл бұрын
The precision resistor network says Caddock, not Bourns :D
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Oops you're right!
@t1d100
2 жыл бұрын
For top-end equipment, you can come up with the service manuals, schematics, etc. That's part of what you pay for. My guess is that, if Hantek is removing the silkscreen off of the chips, they certainly are not going to allow the service manual to be obtainable. Do you know the status of the availability of the documentation?
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
At least you USED to get schematics with HP/Agilent and others. Not so much any longer with Keysight any more.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anything is available so repair would be questionable. It's certainly possible to have this calibrated at a UK cal lab though.
@newyork5730
2 жыл бұрын
HDG3000B genertor, HDP4424B DC powesupply, and HDM3065, Seems to be in the same design family
@Jnglfvr
Жыл бұрын
Confused about the specs on the HDM3055. It claims 66,000 count but shouldn't a 5 1/2 digit meter have minimum 200,000 count?
@renodasilva6464
Жыл бұрын
one thing that I don't like is the diode test, I have a t-Unit UT181A, which gives a short beep when the diode is ok, when it is in short it gives a continuous beep, and when I open it, it does not beep. the hantek only beeps when it is within the diode range, if it is shorted it does not beep. if you are looking at the circuit you will not know if the diode is shorted or open, just by the beep, you have to keep looking at the screen.
@vmiguel1988
2 жыл бұрын
Nice construction but a joke of voltage references!
@rickoneill4343
2 жыл бұрын
Will be getting this DMM for sure. Have you reviewed the variable power supply that matches this line?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, it is on my list though.
@rickoneill4343
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics I'll be watching your channel for when you get it! Keep up the great content. Just saved me over 2 grand as I almost sold my soul for the keysight.
@fullmoon6661
2 жыл бұрын
ADR02 is somewhat pin compatible to MAX6325, except the pin 3 which is TEMP sensing pin on the Analog one and Noise Reduction pin on the Maxim.. 🤔💭😛
@Ilyamiktotal
Жыл бұрын
Hi. Will you tell me please what are its dimensions without bampers?
@xConundrumx
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, is it me or are these prices still a bit steep? I bought the Keithley DMM6500 (start 2020) for less than 1k euro (which seems to be in line with the 6.5 digit price on aliexpress for this) and it is an absolute dream. Also what is going on at 14:22? That grayisch circle of ... not sure what ... above chip U412 encircling a resistor there.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
The little circle is a wire inductor, commonly used on PLLs. I think the price of these has crept up slightly due to demand, as I only paid slightly over £500 for the 6.5 digit model.
@jaro6985
2 жыл бұрын
DMM6500 is better than a 34465A for daily use IMO, the interface is amazing. Current price is $1200 USD, but not sure in GBP. If you are lucky your used 34401A might sell for $300-500.
@youchooby
2 жыл бұрын
I'm torn between the two because switchable front/rear terminals is mandatory, but the 6500 is well over $2000 here, while I can get the 3065b for about $1100 and don't have to deal with added fan noise.
@xConundrumx
2 жыл бұрын
@@youchooby 2K, yikes... Just checked here, 1.2K which is still the normal price (I got mine on some promotion hence the lower price). Added fan noise? The Keithley is perfectly silent for me. At least I have never noticed fan noise. But yes as Ja Ro stated the interface is amazing, also you can write 'scripts' for it which is kind of interesting, But most of all it has proven to be a solid device for me. Well worth the money. The readings are really fast, I always use this as an example. You can actually see (in resistance mode) that a pot is noisy because the readings jump around erratically.
@shlomsi2000
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for a helpful review. I really think the prob continuity test a-la Dave Jones is not a real world test, as we rarely use the probs in such a way. A much better (IMHO) method would be to test them on a PCB trace with the sharp part of the tip, it would eliminate some of the oxidation errors.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Good point. A better test would be a PCB hooked up so you can wipe the probes along the pins of an IC to test the speed.
@stevenspmd
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the 6.5 is still $1000+ CDN. I'll stick with my 3478a and hope to find a Keithley 196 for ebay :)
@RonV726
2 жыл бұрын
What? Superstar KZitem influencer Mike Anderson is not in this? Opportunity missed.
@ergunguler3981
2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for video. İs it high precision multimeter or normal multimeter?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Particularly in the case of the 6.5 digit model, it's certainly a high precision meter.
@ergunguler3981
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics cevap için teşekkür ederim. bir sorun daha olacak; siglent sdm3065 mi hdm3065 mi? siz hangisini tercih edersiniz ve neden?
@donaltaylor4012
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, interesting comparison. Guess you need to make the right choice for the work you undertake. Nice to have a robust lower cost option
@ergunguler3981
2 жыл бұрын
hello. is it send to mobil app. data or data analize?
@585585MC
2 жыл бұрын
13:49 top right, what is around that resistor? and 14:22
@richardmagnorstenbro3234
2 жыл бұрын
You need to review Hantek HDP4424 power supply,. Seems to be in the same design family. I wonder if i should buy one. And for once i might buy something you didnt review first. :-)
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I may look into this one, trouble is I have waaaaay too many power supplies. It's on my list but probably a month or two out before I order
@richardmagnorstenbro3234
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics I ordered mine yesterday. The HDP4324, which has 8volt, 5 amps as a third channel. Also my HDM3065B arrived today. Yeah...
@keithfisk5641
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great and timely review Steve. I have just seen your reply to my post on the EEVBlog forum enquiring about experiences with failures of the Keysight 34465A DMM. The Hantek might be a good replacement option for me.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
If you can get the 34465A repaired, I don't think you'll have further trouble. Definitely for us it seemed to be only the units manufactured around a certain date, the others are fine!
@emptyhan947
2 жыл бұрын
They look very nice, thanks for your review
@Duglum666
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, i've been waiting for this video. Would you, or anyone else, say that the device is worth buying for what it is? And since the 3065 is "only" about a 100 bucks more compared to the 3055, maybe it would be a good idea to go straight for that one as it seems to have some better components? I'll never need the additional digit, even 5.5 is a bit overkill for my needs.. but this seems to be nice, fancy-ish and affordable? The only downside for the 6.5 digit one is that calibration costs are much higher for 6.5 compared to 5.5 meters.. if it's ever needed in years and years..
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think it's well worth buying if it's the limit of your budget and you don't want a second hand meter. So far I've not found anything to complain about, but the longer term reliability and drift is still obviously unknown. I would like a new Keysight unit, but they've gone up in price by £700 since I was originally about to buy!
@richardmagnorstenbro3234
2 жыл бұрын
3065B on its way. :-)
@SACRED521954
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, would you also maybe do a hobbyist affordable oscilloscope current clamp in the future?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I've got a review coming up of the Micsig clamp.
@sec21
5 ай бұрын
I have a cal cert from Keysight signed by Tina Chen, Quality Manager. Same signature. What a joke.
@rogert151
2 жыл бұрын
something in the right corner at 14:22 above the chip, a piece of string ?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
It's a little coil of wire, probably for a PLL.
@kuro68000
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can stream 30k readings/second over USB. I wrote software to do that with the Keysight (10k/sec is its max) and it was very useful for developing ultra low power battery operated devices.
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I've yet to hook it up to a PC, I doubt it's sampling that fast though.
@kuro68000
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics the spec sheet says it can, but I imagine that like the Keysight that is at reduced resolution (4.5 digits from memory). Even 1k is very useful if it can run indefinitely.
@Luzt.
9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@panbekon1470
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, just a quick question. Is that possible on 6.5digit version to remove last digit? In case when you don't really care, just to make it little more readable?
@mortenhattesen
2 жыл бұрын
It is on the 34465A, so I would imagine Hantek have copied that feature as well ;)
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
I think it changes depending on the number of power line cycles you select. I'm not sure if there is an actual mask though.
@panbekon1470
2 жыл бұрын
@@sdgelectronics I see that there is possibility to mask. Just ordered 3065B, hope it will be a nice addition to my shop.
@supernumex
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have the 34465A for a video?
@sdgelectronics
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly not, just a 34401A and a 34410A
@igorkvachun3572
2 жыл бұрын
Yes👍⚡ 🔌💡🇺🇦✌☀
@JohnSmith-ez8lk
5 ай бұрын
are u blue gy?
@danielroibert5631
2 жыл бұрын
The pice is not so far from a true best brand Keithley.
@Mr.Not_Sure
4 ай бұрын
Unbelievable how Hantek copied the Keysight UI design! Just nothing they designed new! Siglent is doing the same. I think this is IP thieft. Look how Keithley develops their own UI design - completely unique one!
@dwintechnology-fiona4920
2 жыл бұрын
Could i put some video on your channel for advertisement, we can pay
@bobert4522
Жыл бұрын
Nice meter, I’d still chose a 34401A if even slightly more expensive because this things just never die, but if I wanted a UI/USB connectivity this is very valid.
@davidvileta4526
5 ай бұрын
my god, everything about the front panel is a blatant Keysight/Agilent ripoff
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