With hopes for season 5 💀 (or maybe a mid season patch)
@jessiesutter1771
Жыл бұрын
So disappointed. Mercy gets too much hate for no reason.
@XlsmoklX
Жыл бұрын
I’m so annoyed and upset like can they just do these things correctly and just make mercy seem actually playable😢
@dauclairdelune
Жыл бұрын
the way Mercy went from "throw pick" to "must be nerfed" in a season is rlly something
@AlmaCayasso
Жыл бұрын
Disrespected. I feel so unheard.
@babyangeltea
Жыл бұрын
The devs seem to just take the negative comments from non-Mercy players and run with it. Non-Mercys didn't like her movement so devs nerfed her but tried to compensate with the healing. Mercy players said they didn't like the GA change and Non-Mercy players said they didn't like her healing so they thought the best of both worlds would be just to revert her but not really. They tried to fix too many problems and just created new ones.
@JinnaiT
Жыл бұрын
This is sad. It was interesting attempting to dart around healing critical allies, now with the buff to standard healing, it's back to being a healbot, topping everyone up when you see it and staying further back so you don't have to use longer movements anymore since they take twice as long cooldown.
@pixie-fae
Жыл бұрын
Legit, I am most frustrated about the "We heard from Mercy players that y'all don't like the healing" and I'm just wondering who they asked lmao. Pretty much everyone I know that plays her found the change pretty fun, even if they acknowledged that it might be less fun to play against. Idk, guess maybe next season we get the healing back but a 5 second GA cooldown to make up for it because "Mercy players gave us feedback that her cooldown was actually waaaaayyy to short now and they couldn't adjust to it again"
@kaylaisrad
Жыл бұрын
and every time they rework mercy they always forget something…like the valk regen. and we have been asking them to fix beam breakage FOR YEARS and they STILL haven’t done it.
@aubrey143.
Жыл бұрын
cope harder
@brand6577
Жыл бұрын
@@aubrey143. dps player moment :|
@raccoon7217
Жыл бұрын
They removed the only thing I liked about the last changes and didn't fix any of the bad things, they almost made them worst. Cool.
@qiva441
Жыл бұрын
They truly don't know what to do, it's more than it being sad. It's very worrisome they cannot handle this and are low-key gaslighting us.
@aephos.overwatch
Жыл бұрын
Average Blizzard balancing
@aephos.overwatch
Жыл бұрын
@@qiva441 It's kinda crazy how most of the devs don't even play the game, spending most of their gaming on diablo and wow no less.
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
Yup 🙃
@xneytri
Жыл бұрын
i think that might be adjusted in mid season patch like they do often lately.
@cheetahquick9
Жыл бұрын
Devs treating Mercy like they're an abusive relationship "we're gonna fix her" just to butcher it and make her not fun
@smit_ty6771
Жыл бұрын
could not have said it better myself
@ctomsky
Жыл бұрын
I love how literally no one asked for changes to GA from OW1 to OW2, and yet they insisted on buffing it, and are now punishing us for them accidently making it too good. Then they buff her healing and accidently break it and have to revert it again. Then I think back to the original Valkyrie rework where they broke the crap out of her and then had to nerf her into complete uselessness. Being a Mercy main means living in a cycle of constantly breaking and then nerfing/reverting her to be even worse than she was before because the devs STILL somehow fundamentally don't understand their own character.
@yoinkers5729
Жыл бұрын
Honestly they could’ve avoided this whole mess by just reducing her health to 175. Would’ve made her more squishy, but still hyper-mobile. What I’d like to see personally is a complete GA revert back to season 1&2 version, giving back the dynamic healing in some capacity (likely a bit nerfed), fine tuning her new passive, and reducing her health to 175. I really liked the idea of triage healer personally, and I feel like those changes would make it happen while still feeling more fair. It’s just kind of frustrating how they don’t even know what direction they want her to go in, while messing with her kit in weird ways. Last season it’s triage healer and this season they take that back completely with these changes.
@Xesli
Жыл бұрын
but thEYrE LIsTEniNG tO FeEDbaCk 😂
@NullitasOfOne
Жыл бұрын
@@Xesli feedback from their asses 😂
@inplane9970
Жыл бұрын
How could the devs understand Mercy. They don't even play Mercy and the players they're listening to also don't play Mercy. Blizz's balancing philosophy always fails to surprise anyone because it's the same shit every time. 1. Blizz makes changes to heroes randomly because "ThE mEtA iS sTaLe," affecting the balancing ecosystem and suddenly some heroes become overloaded. 2. People cry about these heroes despite the hero mains saying random changes made them overloaded, and people just call them elo abusers. 3. Blizz nerfs these "overloaded" heroes into the ground, making these heroes not even functional in their own niche and aren't fun to play in any circumstance. 4. Rinse and repeat.
@Xesli
Жыл бұрын
@@inplane9970 nail on the head with this. beautifully worded
@bayliethomas2312
Жыл бұрын
Devs really said “we want Mercy to be a triage healer!” then said “lol never mind”
@Katie-fd3or
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Did they forget?😂
@J6llyJ9
Жыл бұрын
@@Katie-fd3or Can't have Mercy being effective, otherwise little Timmy who can only land 3 shots per minute will be angry that this """No Skill""" hero can undo his damage/kills. UwU
@arrowtongue
Жыл бұрын
because everyone complained about this for like 2 months??
@cococrispy1337
Жыл бұрын
Triage?
@J6llyJ9
Жыл бұрын
@@cococrispy1337 Means that she would prioritize people who are lowest in HP/Critical (to get the healing bonus).
@qiva441
Жыл бұрын
I am tired of the dev incompetence when it comes to this character. They appease no one, and have to keep 'correcting' their mistakes.
@mathiasduquette6970
Жыл бұрын
bruh
@SotoriVibeZ
Жыл бұрын
Least ur not a doommain bro
@urwrldluv
Жыл бұрын
there’s so many other supports to choose from stop complaining n adapt
@chalicek77
Жыл бұрын
Hold right click and stu you boosted bot
@akigatoz
Жыл бұрын
@@urwrldluvthere’s literally like 9 and not all of them can fit the player’s play style lmao
@bre_me
Жыл бұрын
I really was expecting a GA cooldown of maybe 2 seconds and for the bonus healing to be reduced by 25% or so. I was very wrong.
@GraphicOG
Жыл бұрын
That is what should have happened
@christophermartin6456
Жыл бұрын
25% boost is 56hps, as opposed to the flat 55 they’re giving mercy now, so her healing is actually significantly better than that alternative. Although, I was also hopeful we’d get a 1.8s cooldown on GA at best, but was realistically convinced of the 2.0s.
@weepingbelle4528
Жыл бұрын
i really don't understand why they're not just giving ga a 2.0s cooldown. i feel like a lot of the feedback from mercy players was that 2.5s was too much but that we would've been ok with a smaller adjustment.
@bnhearyza4767
Жыл бұрын
It feels like they have two different people working on hero balance. One for Mercy and one for everyone else lol. Like most other Hero adjustments are spot on, I mean the general game balance right now is pretty good, but then you get to Mercy and it all goes downhill. It unironically feels like whoever works on Mercy hates her with a passion.
@PurpleMoon799
Жыл бұрын
i mean the brig change is insane its actually scary..
@Ontarianmm
Жыл бұрын
"Like most other Hero adjustments are spot on" As a Sombra main, I would like to have a word with you since they nerfed just about everything but the annoying part of the kit. Also the Genji mains would have many words for you, trust me; they won't shut up about it.
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
It's weird because it seems like most supports are getting good changes and then Mercy is just over here getting whatever this is??
@lavahawk_1729
Жыл бұрын
@@Skiesti Ana change was wack tho ngl
@blackfang0815
Жыл бұрын
@@Ontarianmm Sigma was one of the most balanced tanks in the game but got nerfed for... reasons? If you squint real hard it almost looks like a much harder, easier to dodge, and easier to survive version of Hog's old combo. They nerfed the only things that shouldn't be nerfed on Rein to make him usable in high level but not OP. Ana sleep dart... kinda just why? Oh, and they discovered an Ashe bug that has apparently been in OW for three years. Blizzard just has no clue what they're doing, they're taking advice from Tiktok.
@GaymerXL
Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I knew they'd just absolutely obliterate Mercy when they said they wanted to "fix her".
@ctomsky
Жыл бұрын
What gave you that idea? The last 8 times it happened? 😂
@mikaelareid
Жыл бұрын
omg i loved ur mortali kombat videos
@GaymerXL
Жыл бұрын
@@mikaelareid Oh! Thank you! :D
@filmjolk448
Жыл бұрын
The "fix her" is to satisfy everyone who hates her 🥲(and lie to us mercy mains)
@-.Outlaw.-
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit Mercy mains are so dramatic. Your win rate will change by a whole 1% and you’ll act like the devs just dumpstered the hero as if she still won’t be basically just as effective
@mickeyanders8525
Жыл бұрын
The hearts are for the channel. The devs hate Mercy. It’s so sad. She’s the OW staple for support.
@mathiasduquette6970
Жыл бұрын
bruh
@bystanderurkle4809
Жыл бұрын
They don’t hate her. She is currently very strong in the meta due to her dmg boost and that’s what they need to nerf. I’m not sure why they keep messing with her movement tho
@tristan6967
Жыл бұрын
@@bystanderurkle4809 agreed. The devs don't hate Mercy, but the community definitely does. Her damage beam is a super toxic gameplay mechanic and needs a rework or a nerf. I can't see why they don't put it on cooldown or give it quickly diminishing returns the longer is stays on someone. Her movement and triage healing seem very lore accurate so it's weird those are the two things they keep fucking with...
@DetectivePikachu37347
Жыл бұрын
Not as much as Ana they want her dead.
@rosen1t
Жыл бұрын
@@tristan6967 as a mercy main i agree, it’s stupid how they keep fucking with something that doesn’t even need to be changed instead of the biggest thing that makes her actually op.
@GuaxinimCandy
Жыл бұрын
im beyond disappointed. this is so frustrating. it’s like they want us to stop playing her
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
Trying to see how many bad changes they can make to Mercy before Mercy players finally stop playing her 😂
@Goldenfire49
Жыл бұрын
And this is why I came to the Mercy professional. Listened to the patch notes from Your Overwatch. Thought Mercy plays were gonna rejoice. Having someone really break down what was passed... needed.
@SeraphSeph
Жыл бұрын
Never listen to people like your overwatch. He seems to just hype all changes and new heroes. I get that's how he gets views, but it doesn't really tell us much about patches.
@razrv3lc
Жыл бұрын
YourOverwatch is the lowest common denominator. That channel has always existed for the most casual players who don’t really care that much and consistently has bad takes on most things lol
@aaurraa444
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think they understood what the mercy community was saying at all last season, we were pissed because her mobility got nerfed for a heal buff, but they took that as “they don’t like the heal buff at all.” I really wish someone else was in charge of these hero changes but I do feel bad for the dev team, they seem so lost.
@Tuilelen
Жыл бұрын
For real. BullSHIT did Mercy players complain about the heal buff.
@makianasilva
Жыл бұрын
I wanted the GA with less cooldown, not reverted, and the healing nerfed but not removed :(
@Dissh426
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, like 2 second on GA and nerf the healing and maybe her hp a little. Is it that hard???
@ArturoPladeado
Жыл бұрын
Old GA and make the bonus healing 25% instead of 50% and boom, we have at least some decent groundwork to go from and make further changes if any from there on.
@envious5847
Жыл бұрын
@@Dissh426 where is this nonsense of nerfing mercy’s hp coming from who came up with that idea?
@Dissh426
Жыл бұрын
@@envious5847 if you read my comment I was saying to compensate for giving her mobility back they could nerf her sustainability.
@envious5847
Жыл бұрын
@@Dissh426 you said nerf her hp a little I’m assuming you want her hp down from 200 to 175 but why on earth with they nerf her hp to 175 for just a cooldown of 2 seconds on ga? Be reasonable here at least a 1.5 cooldown and again please tell me where you even got the idea of reducing her max hp down because that’s honestly such a bad idea
@kleinn7659
Жыл бұрын
It's a huge shame they removed her increased healing, that little buff made her fun for me, popping her Valk felt so rewarding because I could keep up with pressure if the situation called for it, I was expecting it to be heavily nerfed but not removed, triage healing Mercy, you'll be missed.
@kleinn7659
Жыл бұрын
There were also moments I was able to keep 2 teammates alive under pressure without Valk or a support with me by managing their health, those moments felt ecstatic to see that your healing actually can keep up than you wouldn't normally see with her.
@karolina3383
Жыл бұрын
It was incredibly unfun to play against.
@kleinn7659
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely true, had times where I went as dps to take a break from playing support, so I know the pain how it feels to go against a Mercy so I can understand the pain
@Zical100
Жыл бұрын
it's only fun for mercy players, for the rest it's was not
@100pson
Жыл бұрын
It may have been fun but outhealing genji blade is just wrong for the game... The moveset changes are both good and bad in my opinion... Cuz with just a minimal floght control even a bronze/silver mercy was basiclly unkillabke... But on the other hand that movement is all that makes her fun to play...
@zteezee_5677
Жыл бұрын
the new support has like 7 different abilities yet they don’t want mercy to have just ONE way to defend herself and be able to survive…
@1Kumabear1
Жыл бұрын
Well its because she got 5 extra bullets to defend herself duh
@johnsonspark171
Жыл бұрын
the new support is a throw pick down in the metal ranks. Very large hit box, needs lots of communication with team to get value, and is just overall very weak
@razrv3lc
Жыл бұрын
@@johnsonspark171 he’s going to be what OW1 Sombra was. Incredibly useless at low ranks and incredibly obnoxious at high ranks lol
@johnsonspark171
Жыл бұрын
@@razrv3lc agree
@sanddollar500
Жыл бұрын
It's just so frustrating how they keep adjusting guardian angel and Mercy's movement-- imo, the Entire reason why she's fun to play and why people main her-- when she only really became an issue in community opinion/discussion because of damage boost and rez. Both of which they haven't addressed AT ALL It's really unbelievable that they're trying to make it sound like they fixed/improved her movement after making really no change at all. I just don't get it. At the very least, they could've made this GA change but have it be just a little bit shorter CD overall instead of still 2.5s At the Very, Very least, why can't they just fix her beam linger synergy 😭 At this point, I'd be completely fine if they removed rez and nerfed dmg boost into the ground just for Fun, non-clunky Mercy movement back 😔
@icevee686
Жыл бұрын
“cooldown increase was an overcorrection 😭” RAHHHH LETS MAKE IT EVEN LONGER
@nemebliss
Жыл бұрын
Once again, the loud crybabies won again... I swear, these people will only be happy if every support just dies the moment they appear on screen because them just breathing is op and broken, apparently...
@60darklord
Жыл бұрын
I wish they kept the increased healing in valk, or at the very least give it a slight buff. It always was just an okay ult but now it’s felt powerful and defensive
@jaymeekomiya425
Жыл бұрын
Then she would be op
@aven2rine.
Жыл бұрын
@@jaymeekomiya425 that's.. the whole purpose of ults, to have impacts on fights?
@PurpleMoon799
Жыл бұрын
@@jaymeekomiya425 just like every other support ult
@oKiterrrr
Жыл бұрын
@@jaymeekomiya425 some of yall be talking without thinking
@Dogen-we1si
Жыл бұрын
@@jaymeekomiya425look at fucking kiriko ult then come back here
@yoinkers5729
Жыл бұрын
I can see GA usage to rely more on GA cancels and bunny hops now. Play style will likely switch to much more conservative (even more than season 3) due to not being able to sustain yourself or your allies as well as before. They basically just nerfed her by removing the healing buff (which was a little too strong, but sad to see it gone completely) and tried hiding it by shifting around where that extra GA cooldown stays in. Honestly just wish they’d remove all GA nerfs, give back some of that healing buff (but not as strong maybe?), play around with her new passive, and just reduce her health to like 175 if she’s too survivable. It would allow you to prove your skill with utilizing how/where/when you move or get aggressive with play style. While also giving her the dynamic they wanted by keeping her as a triage healer. Jumping around from ally to ally keeping them and yourself alive by using your mobility creatively. It might be good to treat mercy a little more like tracer? Where she’s very mobile but a little more squishy.
@baixx1978
Жыл бұрын
I heard you can’t cancel it I think maybe
@yoinkers5729
Жыл бұрын
@@baixx1978 you can’t cancel it when you use crouch/jump now, you can still cancel it by not using those inputs and instead stopping the ability before you reach your target
@noodlerice8778
Жыл бұрын
I am completely on board with lower health for mercy if it meant emergency heals and a shorter GA, these changes are frustrating. I had just gotten used to her s3 kit.
@jazzy-min
Жыл бұрын
I Love the Idea of Reverting GA and lowering her HP to compensate. It would really show that Mercy mains are just better and its a skillissue if you cant kill one. 🤭💀
@yoinkers5729
Жыл бұрын
@@jazzy-min I love the idea of more high stakes gameplay. That was always the most fun part of playing mercy, getting good at movement and game sense so you know when you can play risky and do wild things. Lowering her health pool would make her way more skillful, mastering her movement and techs would be way more important. It sounds like a lot of fun. I really hope at some point they go more in this direction. It keeps dps players happy by making her technically easier to kill, and mercy players happy because her movement becomes fun again. I’ve been saying this basically since OW2 launched but it’s so confusing that they don’t utilize experimental mode. They write off so many things behind the scenes without ever trying them with the community. I wish they’d just try out any wild idea in experimental mode, get their community feedback, and actually listen to it so they know what direction to go in. Edit: spelling
@DrTem
Жыл бұрын
To be honest, time to be a Zenyatta main, the only character who the devs never look at.
@jeremiahdavis7873
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, was the better choice all S3 lol.
@friendlydragon1161
Жыл бұрын
They've going to nerf discord orb eventually given how much people are complaining about it now lmao.
@DrTem
Жыл бұрын
@@friendlydragon1161 Hopefully they give him literally anything else to compensate, even if just a speed buff orb lol
@razrv3lc
Жыл бұрын
@@friendlydragon1161 it genuinely needs nerfs. Its range is massive, has 0 downtime and can be shifted from multiple people at will instantly, and the damage boost amount is huge. It literally stops tanks from playing the game. I’m surprised it has made it this far. I’ve been seeing Zenyattas that outdamage the four dps in the lobbies lol
@b.n9076
Жыл бұрын
No I’m also very disappointed, she still has that annoying 2.5 almost 3 second and they taken out the layered healing. This is just an overall nerf that was supposed to be a buff. I don’t like this at all.
@parasite269
Жыл бұрын
I loved mercy for her mobility. Like - it was genuinely fun to play her. I was scared of the GA nerf and the healing buffs, which is why I was glad when they turned out to be manageable. I adapted and went on. It's definitely a lot less fun to play her atm but as I said - not too bad. She's still useful in specific situations too. Them just making it worse in S4 is really disappointing to say the least. I'll probably leave mercy be for some time and see how much I enjoy lifeweaver instead. Let's just hope that blizzard gets their sh*t together ngl
@bigslams7139
Жыл бұрын
"We noticed to many high skilled mercys being able to live and low skilled players unable to kill her due to lack of aim. So we decided to nerf the skilled mercys, and made the skilled mercys suffer if they just spam GA. No need to thank us, we did it for you"
@matthewjungmann12
Жыл бұрын
It feels like they want to make her a beginner friendly, expert UNFRIENDLY pick, where there's no need to aim, but her power level is low enough that the consistent, beginner-friendly value falls off in the face of mechanical skill based characters like ana. I think you nailed it when you said that the skill expression for Mercy mainly comes from min-maxing GA cd even when it was ACTUALLY 1.5s and switching off toggle GA let you squeeze an extra bit of flight time out of her. You don't need to aim, the enjoyment of the character comes from the movement and they are relentless about nerfing pretty much the core identity of the hero. If the balance team sees that everyone wanted a hard revert (Mercy players for the movement and everyone else so they could actually kill her pockets), why in the world did they go so hard on the nerfs? It's so frustrating to lose a mobile character like genji, echo, or doomfist that I'm trying to pocket when I'm playing THE MOST MOBILE SUPPORT IN THE ROSTER. I remember hearing way more hate on the s3 changes when they were announced than I've seen so far (maybe it just hasn't been long enough yet) but I almost hope Mercy's pickrate plummets and her stats are just awful so the balance team gets their heads in the game and reverts her like every sane person seems willing to accept.
@imfuckingtired2835
Жыл бұрын
"We listen to our community" *mercy players* "We hate the ga changes but at least the healing is cool" "Fuck you guys."
@Askorti
Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight... They nerf the GA movement, but "compensate" with the healing change. Then they completely revert the healing change, and for all intents and purposes keep the GA nerf... ??? Profit? Damn you devs....
@tommycolada
Жыл бұрын
so they did something… but at the same time did absolutely nothing at all 😭 how is that even possible being mercy is emotional damage yall
@CALlFORNIAGURL
Жыл бұрын
another day of ow devs doing anything but listening to mercy mains
@Azanitt
Жыл бұрын
What is mind boggling, is that I didn't see anything with her damage boost changes, meaning THIS was what they did to prevent pocket ???
@Riku-Leela
Жыл бұрын
Wtf.... That's horrible... So now we have a 3 second cooldown on 90% of Mercy's gameplay... They actually hate us
@KaiWills
Жыл бұрын
The hero balance absolutely sucks in OW2. It feels like they’re trying to spice up the game by implementing massive buffs and nerfs to make sure the meta changes. Now that Lifeweaver is being added, and Brig is being reworked, they’re the two favourite support heroes for this season. Next season they’ll likely be nerfed to oblivion alongside 2 other support buffs. They balance to change the meta, not to actually balance.
@rickchaves
Жыл бұрын
The first and most important item in EVERY changes meeting OW2 team has is "ALWAYS REMEMBER: EVERY SINGLE CHANGE HAS TO BE FOR THE WORST",
@MrSoBitchy
Жыл бұрын
So the GA nerf reverted was a lie
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
Yup! They really did just lie to us
@DizzyiTV
Жыл бұрын
Welp, there goes that "triage healer" role they tried so desperately to sell in season 3.
@Invalourrr-vb3xo
Жыл бұрын
"Triage who? Never heard of him"
@DizzyiTV
Жыл бұрын
@@Invalourrr-vb3xo" -Blizzard probably" lol
@TheOfficalHongMeiling
Жыл бұрын
We gonna expect a lot of mercy changes ever since they were nerfing her. BUT THEY WONT EVER TAKE OUR TAKE THE LOVE OF US MERCY MAINS
@sovereignnavae
Жыл бұрын
I saw quite a bit of Mercy players (myself included) that were against the healing buff :D it just felt way over the top, I hate the idea of "abusing" strong heroes bc if it is an intended feature it is fair to use but it honestly just felt abusing. However the criticism towards the buff was ALWAYS paired with criticism against the GA nerf. That the combo of fast, cheap-feeling healing with clunky mobility and bad synergy with the rest of her kit made her playstyle pretty unfun. The buff was A problem but not THE problem. Now we just kinda got nothing lol
@Invalourrr-vb3xo
Жыл бұрын
True, we do be in an awkward middle ground now with no real win.
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
I agree the healing buff was a lot and sometimes felt silly but no Mercy players were actively against it or talked negatively about it in the way they're making it seem. If anything, they were okay with it being tuned down but enjoyed what it brought to her kit and what it allowed her to do. The healing buffs were also a compensation for the GA nerfs. And now we have the same GA basically and no healing buffs so it's just a lose lose for us
@AYouTubeUser1
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed triage healing. If Bliz thought the critical heals were too much, they could’ve rajsed the base healing from 45 to 50. Then reduced the critical healing from a 50% increase to a 25% increase. This would change her heal per second from 67.5 to 62.5. In simple terms, her base healing increase by 5 and her critical healing decrease by 5.
@collik.7325
Жыл бұрын
Loved the healing change in season 3, hated (and still hate) what I’m seeing from the movement. I could live without the healing change, even though I’d really like to see it adapted in some form again, I just want them to give old GA back!! 😭
@chalicek77
Жыл бұрын
Hold right click and stu you boosted bot
@LanFu11
Жыл бұрын
@@chalicek77 k bro
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
If they're going to get rid of the healing change like this which was the thing that made up for the S3 GA changes, we should at least get some kind of GA buff in return but here we are with this silly change 💀
@The-hamster2471
Жыл бұрын
@@chalicek77 you copy and paste the same thing every comment. Do you have anything better to do?
@chalicek77
Жыл бұрын
@@The-hamster2471 i only did it twice you boosted bot
@bumblewyn
Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked by the devs' hypocrisy here. They can't say they overcorrected and then BASICALLY KEEP IT THE SAME?
@igoonx15
Жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who thinks that the devs doesn’t hear the criticism of ACTUAL mercy players, instead it feels like they’re hearing the complaints of other players who just don’t like or know how mercy works... like it’s so confusing and annoying sometimes. Like everytime i stop playing OW and go back to the game after a while i find one of my characters getting nerfed and less fun to play. It’s getting annoying to come back to play and have to to once again try and get used to the new changes.
@mcfurina21
Жыл бұрын
When i read mercy's balance this morning everything seemed alright except i couldnt understand what the ga changes were. After watching urs and niandra's vids it helped me understand that the devs barely did a thing. They nerfed what made her good is s3 and didnt change back what made her good before that. Im glad there's ppl like u to address the MANY problems that the devs seem to keep overlooking
@S1gilByte
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the easiest solution for her healing would be a decay effect, she starts off with a very high output that gradually decreases, this decay is decreased through target swapping and her movement. So she could still make life saving plays like with the 50% buff but not sustain allies who should be doomed with any other support, it would also decrease pocketing and make her the triage specialist they initially intended with the changes
@FreyaStark26
Жыл бұрын
I wish they’d let people try her changes in the PTR so we can test things out and they could actually see how it’s working with the people who actually play her before they put it into live mode. - what a concept.
@erinslps
Жыл бұрын
Rip to experimental 💔
@Hero2213
Жыл бұрын
They do! But only the select content creators.. or DPS mains who think they’re better than blizzard…?
@ayyceeve5038
Жыл бұрын
90% of the time mercy’s will use crouch jump/directional boost jump. So long story short she still has her S3 ga nerf and reverting her healing. Where’s the upside in this? How is this middle ground?
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
This isn't middle ground. That's why I'm saying there HAS to be some middle ground somewhere cause this ain't it
@ayyceeve5038
Жыл бұрын
@@Skiesti Nono I ment as in why did overwatch think this was middle ground
@wendyz1309
Жыл бұрын
I literally got my hopes up thinking we would get some decent Mercy buffs but instead we have the same long ga cooldown and now without the buffed healing. I can't believe how ignorant the devs can be.
@softdanvrs8634
Жыл бұрын
so they’re masking the 2.5 GA by having the cooldown greyed out before showing “2,1” instead of “3,2,1” just to make us think it’s faster when it’s not what mind games are they trying to play with us ?? and why take the under half heath healing completely away why not just lower it?!
@razrv3lc
Жыл бұрын
Great, now people who don’t play her will say “they reverted her cooldown, why are you mad?!”
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
The way they worded it is just..... Confusing for no reason
@galacticgodzilla1081
Жыл бұрын
If you wanted to keep some sort of burst healing for her you could make it if allies are critical, after 1.5-2 seconds mercy applies the healing boost for a 3 second duration. Gives her burst healing to save teammates in dangerous situations but also allows counter play as it’ll be in phases and not constantly active.
@CozKidNumber1
Жыл бұрын
They really said "yeah let's keep the stuff people hated and revert the things people tolerated"... Incompetence. Truly.
@marys.l967
Жыл бұрын
The fact that the devs lied and blamed the mercy changes on mercy mains LMAOOO. The audacity to write "received a lot of bad feedback from mercy players" biiisshhh I clacked.
@MissSaintG
Жыл бұрын
Devs really said “we did good here.” While not listening to a thing we wanted.
@b.n9076
Жыл бұрын
Sojourn was the problem. Now it’s mercy that getting taken the hits. Season 1 is when people said mercy was trash. Now season 4 she’s all messed out with these negative changes that was supposed to help her :/
@StarLucario102
Жыл бұрын
The devs clearly cannot balance her, they need to just give her free flight like Echo since at this point, they're making her clunky to work GA
@Fenchy_Artz
Жыл бұрын
They made her a triage and took away her triage ablities :D...
@kuromifluff
Жыл бұрын
This is actually absurd; how do the devs continually fail to understand their own character? They have to be completely oblivious if they think this GA change is helping a single Mercy player. Like you pointed out, a majority of GA’s include a jump or a crouch cancel, so we’ll never really have a 1.5 second cooldown. Then the fact that they removed the bonus healing completely?! That’s insane, it made her so much more viable for saving low health targets. It feels like the devs don’t know a single thing about this character or her player base. Why are we constantly getting fucked over???
@Skyes.h
Жыл бұрын
I get heart palpitations when I see Mercy in the patch notes. I'm sick of this 🙂
@babesfromthebible
Жыл бұрын
the ppl that recommend these mercy "buffs" should be fired, they dont know how to design a character that depends on her movility. She literally shouldve stayed like in s1.
@flyphoenix22
Жыл бұрын
I really like the new battle-pass Mercy skin. We are so used to seeing Mercy get the cutesy skins I think she looks bad ass.
@AlmaCayasso
Жыл бұрын
Oh jeez we need infinite patience. And I'm so at my limit already.
@goddessoerba
Жыл бұрын
i wish i could send the entire second half to overwatch's balancing team. i wish for a single second we could feel heard and listened too. instead of them listening to dps players complain and then saying what they said was what all of us said for the second season in a row.
@9945fayra
Жыл бұрын
they are listening, they are listening to ragers, non mercy players, and mercy haters. :D
@fanbotbob64
Жыл бұрын
I'm really bummed about the healing change. Extra healing at low health was really interesting and added a new dimension to her gameplay.
@_JUN3BUG
Жыл бұрын
They might as well remove mercy with these changes in which they call “balanced”
@kathleen9104
Жыл бұрын
taking away GA reset when valking is such a strange design choice to me. And the fact that they should know that most mercy players almost never just normally GA, so its going to feel the exact same while taking away tech that assisted those problems, I don't get it blizzard. Make it make sense. And then reverting the healing back instead of adjusting it a little- again, no one asked for this. She's much weaker than she was last season, and realistically while the under 50% valk healing could be insane, it's also her ult, its supposed to be impactful. They could've tweaked it instead of just continuing to gut the character. At least last ga nerf we got bee mercy for moral but I'm really torn about the new skin as well.
@kabooki2823
Жыл бұрын
kinda sad about this one, i was hoping S4 would get me playing Mercy again. i didn't play her at all in S3! (>﹏
@Its_Ley
Жыл бұрын
They did so bad with the heroes balance changes this season, nerfing balanced tanks, over-buffing brig, more nerfs to ana, and Cassidy grenade nerf is probably unnoticeable 😐
@J6llyJ9
Жыл бұрын
"Feedback from Mercy Players-" "Are those Mercy Players in the room with us right now?" Just say you need Mercy to be bad to placate your DPS players and stop giving us hope, jesus...
@9945fayra
Жыл бұрын
yep we are sick of it.
@kg_a10
Жыл бұрын
Love how what everyone was saying was gonna happen, happened. I remember everyone saying they’re gonna see how the healing is too much and then nerfing it but then not revert the ga nerfs, and guess what happend. 💀
@icevee686
Жыл бұрын
“we received significant negative feedback from those playing as mercy” and made it worse 😋🤪😘
@GenesisRoads
Жыл бұрын
Crazy how this is exactly what you talked about in the podcast. How making changes for the sake of changes just ends up ruining the character in the long run.
@armando5994
Жыл бұрын
i’m not playing her anymore LOL, lifeweaver and kiriko will be my new mains for season 4
@AromaticDolphin98
Жыл бұрын
same
@dogsmilez81
Жыл бұрын
I’m absolutely so done with this bs. Ever since the start of overwatch 2 the devs have been changing mercy in ways that NOBODY ASKED FOR. The fact that they’re still doing it and people are saying that everything in this new season is amazing and supports are more balanced than ever just rlly pisses me off bc yeah mercy might be balanced but she’s balanced in a way that the entire community doesn’t want 😭 then they had the audacity to give us another plain epic skin in the battle pass- LIKE GOODBYEEEE💀💀
@Muzick
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos Skiesti. Your videos are always well thought out and through! I'm very bummed about the changes they've implemented here as well. I honestly cannot think of a time where I don't use the added super jump functionality while playing Mercy. They are literally keeping the same "over correction" from Season 3.
@haebomow
Жыл бұрын
it's easy for blizzard to completely destroy mercy's movement by increasing the CD of GA, to nerf her healing from 55 to 45, but it's impossible for them to nerf DMG boost and rez... bro, IT MAKES NO SENSE!!! as a mercy main, i was also very pissed and annoyed by how they increased the CD for GA, like, I could literally FEEL how bad it was. how is it so hard for them to reduce dmg boost by a few percentages, like, i dont know, maybe 5 or 10%, making it 25-20% dmg boost instead of 30. and for rez, just increase the cooldown to a minute, or make it her ult again, while also replacing her e with valkyrie, just like we had it once in an experimental, which she could use as a second way of survivability... blizzard just doesnt care and wants to anger the community even more, making some players quit the game, and then they cry abt how the game is dead.
@XannnaGG
Жыл бұрын
Well.. I suppose they gave us the high in season 1 and 2 and then to make sure we weren't enjoying the high for too long, they are now dragging us through the mud.. But remember guys! Eventually it can only get better.. (It can ofc get worse but plz no) This season we just gotta endure and hope for a better season 5.
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
Another 2 months of ensuring.... And I thought the past 2 months were bad 🫠
@XannnaGG
Жыл бұрын
@@Skiesti its rough, but we can do little about it but keep complaining.. 😫 pray for her in s5.
@Emma_2Banks
Жыл бұрын
They absolutely have no idea what to do with Mercy. The movement was an ok change, but healing should have been 50 per second with 15% below half
@Cloud7050
Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to pick her back up in S4, but now it just sounds like she'll be worse than in S3. The new support also does low healing, so not really my thing. A shame.
@damslette2243
Жыл бұрын
I cant believe the devs can just go ahead and say "well some mercys were complaining about the increased healing" which, I'm sorry, is clearly made up. Meanwile they ingore the very vocal complaints about the ga changes. Zero communication. The devs clearly don't know what they're doing.
@MunchyInTechnicolor
Жыл бұрын
I find it so strange that they didn't just nerf the healing, buffed the ga to 2 seconds, and reduced her max health to 175 to compensate. I get that mercy players hate changes to the character, but it really feels like they're not actually listening to feedback and more so going off vibes.
@aeloh6921
Жыл бұрын
I'm mostly a DPS player but used to enjoy some Mercy parkour after my comp games and would also play her for some support games after my main sessions. The only reason I played her was because of the GA tech, it was just so undeniably fun and felt so free. However, I also understand from a DPS player's perspective how she was and continues to be absolutely agonizing, and I mean brutally painful to play against at times. The problem was never GA though. It was and has always been damage boost and res. Quick GA makes her hard to kill but that's only a problem because sometimes the fight literally can't progress until the Mercy is dead, especially with the Season 3 triage healing changes. The problem basically is that if you're playing against Mercy pocketed DPS while you don't have a Mercy on your team, and you have two supports who just farm big healing numbers on the tank, it can feel utterly hopeless. Your opponents literally do more damage than you while being unkillable and when you finally get a pick she can just negate all your progress. Why don't they just put GA back to normal, reduce damage boost percentage, increase res cooldown and play with healing numbers and base health to find a balance? Why is it not that simple?
@yeeyenwong7709
Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is what I think as a mercy player
@Mewmewio
Жыл бұрын
I mean what would you increase res to. It’s already on 30 you want it a minute long
@aeloh6921
Жыл бұрын
@@Mewmewio Maybe 35-40
@tkb12
Жыл бұрын
Wow. I didn’t know they could have done worse to Mercy since the first rework happened but damn. I hate what they did to Mercy in OW 1 but the OW 2 hero design team seem to just do not understand Mercy as a character at all. I really try to stay positive and not be too “dramatic,” but this might do it. I don’t know if I can stick with Mercy with these completely disconnected changes to her especially when this shatters my faith in them to make Mercy at least fun to play. They also said they would rather do new heroes rather than reworks, so I don’t think Mercy is ever getting out of this, at least not in a very long time. I know the devs are probably tired of changing Mercy all the time too and with they could delete her lmao.
@xctionjaxon
Жыл бұрын
It's starting to feel like any time anyone has any sort of complaint about Mercy, the devs immediately step in and nerf whatever it is they complained about because we're at a point where mercy's ENTIRE kit (GA, Rez, Heal, & Damage Boost) has been, or is at risk of being nerfed. And this is the same team that took 4 seasons to nerf Cassidy's ridiculously overpowered and immensely complained about magnetic grenade mind you.
@vividdaydream1516
Жыл бұрын
There's no "either/or" about it, Mercy's entire kit _has_ been nerfed. Damage boost got a stealth nerf a few years back when they removed it's ability to boost airborne projectiles (if Mercy reacted fast enough). The game _used_ to check for Mercy's damage boost when attacks landed, which made it possible to min/max Mercy's beams by quickly switching to damage boost whenever you saw a teammate fire off a juicy projectile attack (e.g. firestrike, grenades, rockets).
@starpower1884
Жыл бұрын
They'll go "We're listening ☺️🎧" Then make the worst and weirdest changes that nobody who's played mercy for more than 20hrs ever. would make
@The-hamster2471
Жыл бұрын
Those aren’t headphones their earmuffs - the entire player base
@angelxodust
Жыл бұрын
fuck can they make up their mind on her? im tired of having to change my gameplay every season
@Astro_seeker1987
Жыл бұрын
I’m so fed up with the unwanted changes to mercy….it’s annoying and really shows that they don’t truly care about community comments. 😣
@AngelusOrpheus
Жыл бұрын
i am not super upset at these changes (i was never good at her hypermobility anyways so I adapted to the new ga cooldown pretty well) but the fact that valk is such a lackluster ult is really annoying and should be fixed. I'm glad they are giving her back the self regen healing but they should give her increased healing during valk imo
@chaos1695
Жыл бұрын
She still has increased healing during Valk. They haven't touched that part of the kit in a while. She just now longer super heals crit health allies in it. It is still a very lackluster ult though.
@razrv3lc
Жыл бұрын
@@chaos1695 that’s what they are saying. She should still have the crit heals in Valk but she doesn’t after this patch.
@valkyrie_592
Жыл бұрын
So they did nothing except layer more cooldowns on her. Well I guess if you're smart about the GA, yuo could get them in 1.5 seconds but your movement will be less dimensional. I guess you could get enemies off guard with it a little but it will requuire new apadptation yet again
@truelygaming786
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that really likes sympathetic recovery? It has kept me alive/gotten me back into a fight much faster numerous times and feels especially good against dive. It combined with 55 hps and valk health regen revert are a big consistancy buff to me. I do hope they fix ga reset though. That would feel terrible to play. I am sad that the extra healing under half health is gone but it did feel way too strong. I wonder how Ill feel playing the ga changes myself without the buffed healing. I think I was the rare Mercy player where I felt like season 3 Mercy was actually more fun as the risk versus reward factor was much greater than before.
@erinslps
Жыл бұрын
People are just a little upset that the fun movement is replaced by being more tanky. Though i love the recovery too but i miss enjoying the character more
@weothyr6392
Жыл бұрын
at this point LITERALLY just bring back OW1 Mercy with a rez cancel. that's all we want, stop this madness 😭😭
@striderhanzo
Жыл бұрын
Any fps community, has to suffer through the rage artists with the loudest voices. They get heard and devs make changes on their rage. Constructive criticism like this is lost to the void. But keep it going - it definitely gives a voice to those who do not have a platform to speak their mind.
@JForJenni
Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention, that sympathetic healing was indirectly nerfed due to the fact that it was supposed to be paired with mercy’s healing buff since she heals herself 25% of the staff. Since the 60 hps in her normal state and 90 hps in Valkyrie state are both reduced to 55 and 60 respectively, her survivability took a huge hit. They should’ve at least given us her old regen back to compensate but they didn’t. So yeah, overall net nerf.
@Skiesti
Жыл бұрын
I believe I did mention that later on and showed a comparison between the self healing in Valk for S3 and S4
@sabbysu7353
Жыл бұрын
I knew it! I knew they would nerf the heals and it would nerf the passive healing that was already a major nerf from her overwatch 1 passive. I didn’t expect them to double down on keeping the movement nerf though. I was expecting like 1.8 seconds or 2 second cooldown. I mainly play Ana now. Much more engaging and impactful.
@Amazatastic
Жыл бұрын
Makes absolutely no sense to revert the healing change while effectively keeping the GA nerf. Like just make her how she was in season 1 if you're too scared to do anything real with her
@patezilla5026
Жыл бұрын
Ah my hopes and dreams as a certified mercy main has been broken. The devs f’d it up now with lifeweaver trolling, mercy changes and giga brigg. SIGH. Gl you all trying to stay sane. ❤❤❤
@domicci4460
Жыл бұрын
My problem is why mess up tecs. I play alot of support ,genji and rein and I remeber practicing genjis tripple jump and leap dash for hours only for them to be removed why does Blizzard hate people who invest the time to learn a tec
@TamableArc
Жыл бұрын
i loved the mobility and since the increase ga cd i havent played her much, seeing not much has changed makes me happy i switched over to zen
@custi
Жыл бұрын
And mercy will still stay as valuable support to have on your team just because rez and dmg boost exists in her kit.
@euphybee960
Жыл бұрын
well it’s time to become a lifeweaver main girlies
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