One thing to look out for with resto shamans is ancestral guidance. 100% of healing dealing damage to your flame shock target looks like a phenomenal burst ability.
@martin9202
10 ай бұрын
Just there is a difference between spell damage and spell healing… which means healers don’t do much dmg… 🤷🏻♂️
@robertfarrow3218
10 ай бұрын
@@martin9202At level 25 you won't have much of either. A 1.5sec heal will do more damage than a pyroblast, shocks are also some of the hardest hitting attacks so getting someone to half health then nuking them should be quite possible.
@MrB4235
10 ай бұрын
man this weeks gonna be exciting
@fudgetable1
10 ай бұрын
Fyi, they nerfed the Mage healing. Whenever you heal anyone (including yourself) you incur a -50% flat damage decrease to Frost and Fire spells for 5 minutes and you cant use iceblock (Even tho block isnt till next bracket). So yeah..
@trentpa9226
10 ай бұрын
Good, like Mages needed healing in classic. Watch they will still own with 50% dmg decrease
@rumbleshakes
10 ай бұрын
I agree, but I would've put everything down a tier except Warlock and Warrior. Definitely Warlock > Druid > Mage > Hunter > Shaman > Paladin > Priest > Rogue > Warrior.
@RealJezPer
10 ай бұрын
dont rogues have ranged stun rune at 25?
@stiinky5269
10 ай бұрын
Here we go!
@BreakerBeat
10 ай бұрын
A rather important note on the mage healing is the change that grants the mage a debuff after using Regeneration, causing Fire and Frost damage to be reduced by 50%, and (for later phases) disable the ability to cast Ice Block. So if you want to use healing as a mage, you are kind of locked into Arcane Blast (rune), Arcane Explosion and Arcane Missiles for damage. For lvl 25 though, Mages don't have Ice Block anyway, and things like Frost Nova, Blink and Polymorph are still strong, so the idea of a healing mage is still quite frightening. But more or less being locked out of the Frost and Fire talents (not useful when those spells don't deal much damage) on top of losing the Frost / Fire focused runes is already a huge drawback, but it also seems like Arcane Blast will be very mana intensive.
@lechuck475
10 ай бұрын
No disrespect Supatease i love your retail videos but this is one of the worst sod tier lists i have seen so far: 1. Feral Druids wont be able to powershift a lot because of mana issues, mana is gonna be a huge deal in p1 for them which holds them back bc in cat they will be very squishy 2. Mages Heal already got nerfed insanely, now lets you deal much less damage (plus no iceblock) for 5 mins 3. MM Hunters also already got nerfed heavily because lone wolf is now 15 prozent extra dmg (was 25) and sniper training is now 10% crit strike chance (was 30). Most Hunters will go BM now for sure 4. Rogues dont have kidney or cheap shot thats true but they get between the eyes as a (up to 5 sec) range stun plus the 50 percent slow from quick draw. Of course you also have solarplexus and sap. I could go on with additional points, but the ones ive mentioned alone change a lot for your list
@dillonpaigen4248
10 ай бұрын
I was worried not to roll a Rogue but you changed my mind back.
@fudgetable1
10 ай бұрын
Only competent tier list ive seen so far is Hydra. Dude actually knows what he's talking about and did the adequate research
@Qstorm88
10 ай бұрын
SOD tier list, nice!
@Hitchcawk
10 ай бұрын
First tier list I’ve seen where druid is in S tier… I’m digging it. If balance gets starfall at a later tier… it’s going to be naaaaasty
@gabemaurer4969
10 ай бұрын
Mages wont get cone of cold at 25. They get that at 26. Just wanted to point that out.
@purepeter4737
10 ай бұрын
You look like a mild homosexual. Just wanted to point that out.
@johnhammond6225
10 ай бұрын
I have played a rogue twink at 19 and 29 for a long, long time. The joy of a good low lvl rogue comes from 1 hitting the worst people on the other team. It feels awesome, but doesn't do a ton for your team. Also, you're good for one kill then you hide for cooldowns, before vanish its terrible. Another huge issue is if people can play their class and use CC well. Hunters, druids, mages, shamans, and locks can all slow you down. That means once your trinket and sprint are gone you just walk at them like a zombie waiting to die. As someone who loves rogue, it's not that great and C tier makes a ton of sense.
@nobruh3468
10 ай бұрын
Have ranged stun now also pistol shot which is a ranged ham string that awards 1cbp
@willywonka9785
10 ай бұрын
I disagree, I played alot of lvl 29 twink rogue and I carried every single wsg almost. U can defend ur flag make it impossible to snipe it without being a group and u can wreak the plans for their flag carrier. Not to mention the flag snipe u can do when they got ur flag and u just need to win some time. Yeah for standing in the middle of wsg and fighting there are better classes, but with some brain and some decision making the stealth alone makes rogue op.
@InTheWild1
10 ай бұрын
Druid is amazing but you will go oom extremely quick at 25. Kinda defeats the whole “S tier because of solo play” argument. U wont even be able to shift after 2 shifts and a HoT.
@armygrunt2070
10 ай бұрын
goes to show that ppl like this have literally no idea what they are talking about
@paradopx8618
10 ай бұрын
Supatease classic vid? Noice
@LootandRoll
10 ай бұрын
Mage can't heal themself with a firespec. If you use regenration you deal 50% less damage for 5 minutes...
@hackintosh3899
10 ай бұрын
Fire will only be attractive endgame if the rewind time works on it's own on the player without needing other healing talents. Without it fire simply won't be able to handle the new burst from classes. With it fire will be BG god's. Arcane or fire with frost up to frostbite will probably be the play at low levels. Frostbolt doesn't hit hard enough and shamans will be tank specced probably at 25 so earthshock is melee range. Mages will be very slippery at 25 with only ret and hunters being annoying and you will just sheep pallies and blink in and deadzone hunters.
@fitnessrealty
10 ай бұрын
Please Please Please...can you do a video for how you decide who to target in Solo Shuffle? Maybe an easy breakdown per class? I know that might be difficult and long, but I would love to watch that. Please Please Please. I put all the pleases so that you might see it. Thanks brother.
@MrZeuz666
10 ай бұрын
Rogue/Disc vs Destro/Rdruid having me wishing for Ragnarok.
@Kanoog
10 ай бұрын
Before watching this video "Warlock S tier."
@jcurt03
10 ай бұрын
Rogues get Between the Eyes ranged stun from Outlaw in later xpacs. Not to mention the Quick Draw ranged slow / builder. Shadowstrike will essentially mean every restealth when chasing someone = a free shadowstep to them with added dmg. Gonna be great!
@PaRaNoYaization
10 ай бұрын
same here range rogue S tier for pvp defenitly like quick draw is 20 energy, you can spam 100 dps
@codyking4253
10 ай бұрын
Lol, no guys. Imagine going vs a meta lock with 500% increased armor from items.. so a full on tank, with instant heal over time with both drain life and siphon life.. druids are going to be a nightmare because of how tanky they are.. i mean, when locks catch on of how broken their class is now.. its just over for you.
@PaRaNoYaization
10 ай бұрын
@@codyking4253 siphon not worth it, better take Soul link its like -40% phys damage on top
@hamm8934
10 ай бұрын
Ele, feral, rogue, and hunter button mashing will be s tier. The rest will be a joke until 40 or higher. DoTs and HoTs wont matter until 50 or 60 even. You have to think in terms of twinking tier lists, not glad arena tierlists. You will be globaled. You will be kited. Healing will make you OOM and wont change the fight tempo (just delay your death).
@martin9202
10 ай бұрын
Warlock will be the only S tier, IMHO... Rogue and War will be trash at this lvl... Rogue might be able to one shot people, but they are suppppper slow, you might find yourself just trying to catch some low eq people and run... otherwise you're dead... and almost everybody will be a the same gear so "Twink mindset" is irrelevant...
@mumink132
10 ай бұрын
I see ele/rogue/hunter but why feral? No pounce, no slow, no dash, p sure druids need to swap to caster before healing/rooting instead of simply using it in cat and automatically being put in caster. thats 3 globals (cat, rejuv, cat). I dont see feral doing well in these early levels 1v1 wise (group may be different). what do you think?
@Graymore84
10 ай бұрын
Warrior with a priest or paladin behind them will go from D to S.
@richiem6682
10 ай бұрын
When does it come out?
@sep1ol
10 ай бұрын
30th... so soon!!
@corneliusblackwood9014
10 ай бұрын
Aimed Shot with good weapon and gear = death I don’t know how you don’t have them at S Tier. Even solo, they have enough to get by and in a group you’re destroying people.
@Cryttanz
10 ай бұрын
Metamorph and mage healing seem like the 2 most busted PvP things. I'm betraying my horde brothers and rolling alliance for paladin.
@FatalEcIipse
10 ай бұрын
Gonna betray my horde to go paladin as well… as long as the wife is willing to go with me. Gotta have my paladin!
@TheN9nth
10 ай бұрын
Mage healing has a massive damage debuff attached to it though, so I doubt people will take it when playing Fire and Frost.
@andreichetan4694
10 ай бұрын
@@FatalEcIipsenever wait for wife aprovval, be a man and go Paladin😊 Lolz, she ll follow like a good girl she is. You go to her and tell her, honey, im going paladin to enlighten people, i would love it if you join me, if not i”ll wreck you when we meet
@nop384
10 ай бұрын
@@andreichetan4694 bit weird mate
@andreichetan4694
10 ай бұрын
:))
@jinx4729
10 ай бұрын
Locks dont get succubus seduce till 26 and fear is 20 yard range. Im going to enjoy killing these zero mobility woddlers as ele :)
@weichmacher3973
10 ай бұрын
He can also kite you. Dots and walk out of your range/sight, you need to hardcast, he has insta dots and insta searing pain+pet on you. You can't even interrupt his casts. If you cast, what hinders him to walk to you and fear? fear is the only spell you could interrupt. Even if you shock the fear, he can just fear again after 2 sec, you can't shock it. Your shocks are also short range, leaves you with 50%? damage if you can't cast them. Don't forget 2x void offering.
@hamm8934
10 ай бұрын
@@weichmacher3973 tremor totem for fears and dots do nothing without twink enchants
@kacerz8555
10 ай бұрын
Rogues definitely will be better than b, the sheer fact they can stealth and one shot woth ambush with new runes is gonna make them cancer. Though warriors at the bottom is so true :D
@_Travey
10 ай бұрын
Ambush spec is going to be trashhhhh 😂 what are you talking about.
@thedrunkmanga4610
10 ай бұрын
@@_Traveybro thinks he can get end game enchants lmao
@fudgetable1
10 ай бұрын
POV: You've just ambushed vanished ambushed and BS, but the target is still alive with their personals. Yikes.
@Fourside__
10 ай бұрын
seems you have some wrong ideas about the mage healing, unless you did account for the massive debuff on damage they get when they use a heal spell, also they lack CoC at 25. its going to be really hard to anticipate what will be the actual most busted stuff, we dont know what items are dropping in the raid, we wont have twink enchants and many runes counter the ones from other classes quite well. still liked video because Supatease
@weichmacher3973
10 ай бұрын
Arcane damage gets not debuffed at healing, you heal with arcane damage
@fudgetable1
10 ай бұрын
@@weichmacher3973 Arcane damage at this level is also garbo. I guess you could run Arcane healing spec as a meme flag carry role. Idk, seems really off for PVP, more of a PVE spec. Fire will dominate in PVP
@Fourside__
10 ай бұрын
@@weichmacher3973 didnt he talk about living bomb with heal? Could be wrong
@andytheindividual3862
10 ай бұрын
Haha. You couldnt be more wrong about war. You will see 😊
@thedrunkmanga4610
10 ай бұрын
I think he forgot we get a combat charge lmao
@andytheindividual3862
10 ай бұрын
@@thedrunkmanga4610 hahaha and a move that is instant that requires no rage
@tabarnacus5629
10 ай бұрын
How wrong you were about BM hunters. I've seen pets do more damage than players.
@AshVsYouTube
10 ай бұрын
Lvl 25 going to be the max lvl?
@ultracontent5563
10 ай бұрын
There are 4 phases to 60. 25 is the first one
@ultracontent5563
10 ай бұрын
Would be prob 40 50 60 nexts
@The_Shy_Hitchhiker
10 ай бұрын
You have a range slow and range stun as rogue. There going to be insane in wsg.
@hackintosh3899
10 ай бұрын
People for some reason are thinking of twinks where you one shot with endgame enchants we won't have. Ambush spec is gonna be trash because stealth speed is trash. We are either going to be improved sprint riposte if non gnome or 30 percent crit backstab (mutilate) and more backstab dmg in sub tree if gnome. You will use mutilate in PvP at 25 due to combo point generation that you need without cheapshot openers and later sub talents. Gnome will also be BIS at 40 because Gutripper is broken at level 40 you will be prep 30 percent crit backstab in combat. Other races just won't complete overall in pvp until endgame. They will need to burn a vanish/prep without improved sprint while gnome just clears a nova every minute.
@corneliusblackwood9014
10 ай бұрын
@@hackintosh3899undead
@hackintosh3899
10 ай бұрын
Locks can't fear in metamorphpasis. PvP trinket gets you out of fear, BS insignia trinket makes you immune to fear. It's all what you want to do. If wpvp is your thing it's Dwarf=Gnome because escape artist is broken with the engineering net. On horde it's orc>Undead. BG's? Undead>Orc cus it let's you kill healing priests a lot easier. Duel tourneys with people spending or having their simps spend 10,000 dollars in consumes? Undead was picked because you couldn't be alliance and due to sleeping dust that you will rarely see used and because they were using every pre raid consume in the game where a long battle favored a short CD. They all would have been gnome if alliance was allowed because they could catch mages that knocked them out of the tourney. Undead just look coolest. Imorph sovles that. Nelves look fine with it to.
@bdemar2k12
10 ай бұрын
I dunno about that lock in S tier. Lock was literally the worst class in 29 bracket PVP in classic.
@adamisonfiree
9 ай бұрын
lmao
@judasblewit
10 ай бұрын
What is this new game mode?
@Kilmar4999
10 ай бұрын
Google it man way to much information for anyone to type it all out to you. But basically classic+
@chrisk1458
10 ай бұрын
Blizzards offical private server
@Qstorm88
10 ай бұрын
@@chrisk1458Nice! 😂
@MK-iy4rm
10 ай бұрын
When you said mage can deal with hunters by polymorph him i stoped watching. MM got 42 range, he will put you to 50% before you even start to cast poly. And you still need to care about his pet even if you will be able to poly him.
@brandonlum6445
10 ай бұрын
So blink doesn't exist?
@dan3flip
10 ай бұрын
Lol druid s tier
@user-wq8cp3bi9k
10 ай бұрын
Rogue is A or S
@Criixus1
10 ай бұрын
Feral or balance hard to pick I think starsurge is going to slap tho
@macp988
10 ай бұрын
druid s tier😅 we can ser he's druid main😊 id day druid is B
@andreichetan4694
10 ай бұрын
Hunter is S tier. Druid is max A tier.
@hackintosh3899
10 ай бұрын
The tanking runes are simply going to be broken on a lot of classes at low levels. Stupid amounts of passive mitigation and dmg reduction (should scale with level so it's not broken, example 30 percent more health???) that can be combined with the hardest hitting abilities because they are runes and DPS trees don't scale high at low levels. These trees are also complete garbage. Why do hybrids that can already heal get more instant/passive healing like Divine Storm, instant proc Healing Touch and Earthshield? What's next? Recuperate and cloak of shadows on a rogue to answer that like giving mages heals? This is turning into all the mistakes retail made but even worse. All you needed was some taunts, mana efficiency on hybrids and the rogue combo point spender for parry that won't change pvp at all cus you need that for damage and stuns. You would then have more 5 man tanks (you don't need more in raids). Now we are getting a broken WOTLK. I would rather just have WOTLK talents and health pools on gear to compensate (instead of resilience) than this crap. They are going to spend thousands of hours balancing this turd when that could have been spent on raids, new zones, cool things like the Ashenvale PvP stuff and things that actually matter.
@ondamixtape
10 ай бұрын
Druid S tier, no way at all! Boomies have no starfall , no travel form, hight cost changeform. Your tierlist is baitclick for sure.
@ashtonmayfield9217
10 ай бұрын
He was talking about resto and feral. He literally said boomy isn’t going to work well in this bracket
@drewkg14
10 ай бұрын
downvote his goon
@Kanoog
10 ай бұрын
@@ashtonmayfield9217 This is what happens when people don't pay attention. Haha
@ondamixtape
10 ай бұрын
No travel form, hight cost changeform is the case for those ones too. Resto looked weak at blizcon show compared to other healers. I don't think druid will be good this phase, so imagine S tier. @@ashtonmayfield9217
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