NEVER FORGET: At one time, doctors used to recommend smoking cigarettes ...
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
And they still push drugs to hide symptoms rather than root cause.
@TrickyVickey
Ай бұрын
My own father was prescribed smoking cigarettes at age 11 to treat his childhood obesity and It worked probably because he grew into a teenager. He was thin as a teen.
@TriTr-gk8bo
Ай бұрын
That seems crazy but then I realised that I started smoking around 13/14. 🤦
@tomunderwood4283
Ай бұрын
And they refused to wash their hands before delivering a baby. And they thought a injected gene therapy was safe and effective.
@QueenLiliTheRed
Ай бұрын
NEVER FORGET : Safe and Effective according to the "doctors"
@omnimetric84
Ай бұрын
All I know is that shortly after I quit seed oils, my decades-long joint pain VANISHED, along with high blood pressure. At 62, I’m dramatically healthier and stronger than I was prior to dumping them. I’m now carnivore(ish), high fat, very low carb and loving life!
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
Went from sunburns instantly to almost never. Thousands others have noticed the same thing.
@dan-qe1tb
Ай бұрын
Seed oils and carbs can't and won't cause joint pain. Have you lost any weight since going low carb?
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
@@dan-qe1tb both of those have evidence of inflammation which can cause joint pain. Wheat is a common cause as well which a lot of people drop when avoiding seed oils.
@omnimetric84
Ай бұрын
@@dan-qe1tb then you just keep on eating them. I’ll pass, thanks.
@aagfnv
Ай бұрын
@@dan-qe1tb dude, plants are infinite, and have infinite chemical properties 🌱 They are master chemists! And plants are carbs. So by definition we’re dealing with unimaginable complexity. It’s a basic logic issue.
@ainisepalu8427
Ай бұрын
Nice to know that the car oil industry will always have supporters.
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
Cars are getting electric, but hey we still have some humans who are adamant on consuming oils made as lubricant for cars and machinery.
@joshuasharrock466
Ай бұрын
Doctor Mike Israel also recently published a seed oils aren't bad video. In fact six months ago every major company in America went to the government and asked them to tell people to stop saying that seed oils are bad. I'm grateful when doctors tell me when they support seed oils so I know never to listen to a paid for opinion again
@klw3786
Ай бұрын
Same guy that take steroids so gotta use your own logic
@gradius12
Ай бұрын
Unsubscribed from Dr. Mike after he dropped the video that your hormonal status is irrelevant for weight loss. My dude is an exercise scientist but doesn't know about hypo/hyperthyroidism, hunger/satiety hormones, or that anabolic hormones create more muscle which help shred calories.
@JasonActualization
Ай бұрын
@@gradius12I was very surprised to learn recently that he's only 39 years old. Yikes.
@user-ij8no5zw6u-
Ай бұрын
@@gradius12 Yeah, but I wonder if Layne is even worse. All those fitness related channels promote carbs like crazy because they don't imediatelly see the detrimental effects being active all they life, typically young, a lot of muscle...
@JasonActualization
Ай бұрын
Dr. Mike doesn't realize how dangerous his advice in fact is. Seed oils lower LDL cholesterol because they are hepatotoxic. The problem however, is they contain lipid oxidation products and enough linoleic acid to alarmingly increases the susceptibility of every single lipoprotein in circulation (LDL, VLDL, IDL, Lp(a), etc) to oxidation. Only when oxidized will a lipoprotein become atherogenic, and that is the fundamental problem with the current prevailing paradigm, namely, our obsession with annihilating the amount of lipoproteins in circulation (for which ApoB serves as a mere proxy) as opposed to optimizing for what renders them more impervious to oxidation.
@nich586
Ай бұрын
Many years ago I suffered cystic acne (well into my 40's). Once I learned how much of the seed oils were in my diet I made a solid effort to substitute in natural oils (fish, saturated fat). The cystic acne vanished. My body hates them enough to push them out through my skin and every time I have a high seed oil dinner, three days later I have acne. It's gross.
@hoon_sol
Ай бұрын
Fish oil is literally exactly as bad as seed oils, if not worse.
@lawrence-juniornalty
Ай бұрын
@@hoon_sol In the isolated pill form, perhaps, but it's pretty much universally accepted that diets rich in fatty fish are healthier than diets that are low in omega 3 fatty acids
@nich586
Ай бұрын
@@hoon_sol I just had the best bloodwork in 20+ years. High HDL and low trigs. You're terrible at trolling.
@hoon_sol
Ай бұрын
@@lawrence-juniornalty: No, in any form. Fish oil is extremely toxic. It's hilarious that you try to use "it's universally accepted bro" as an argument, when that's the exact same nonsense supporters of seed oils use.
@hoon_sol
Ай бұрын
@@nich586: Could've been even better if you did away with toxic fish oil.
@TheMrgrimm1
Ай бұрын
I have MS and my evidence is whenever I have seed oils of any kind my hands and feet become numb and I lose hand eye coordination as well as a number of other symptoms, no thanks mainstream, I'll stick to butter and animal fats.
@TheMrgrimm1
Ай бұрын
@@dan-qe1tb I hear you but I'll follow what works for me and ovoid the outrageous bills and clinical testing of doctors who over proscribe and believe medication is the an answer to autoimmune disease. Certainly a tricky one like multiple sclerosis however I'm 37 and I feel like a teen again not on medication and certainly not eating processed foods, sugar or other crap filled with seed oils. Thanks for your concern though 🤗
@annunnaki_bukkakke
Ай бұрын
If i have a drop of seed oil i have insomnia for 2 days. I know that sounds extreme to people but it’s definitely my lived experience. My whole neurology functions so differently when i dont eat seed oils (and sugar to a lesser extent i can handle some amount of). Ever since i came down with liver damage my sleep has been the main system disrupted… I’m lucky i can live life without sleeping pills! All i have to do is eat real food. Sucks most food isn’t real though lol so i have to do some extreme due diligence to maintain homeostasis. Thank you for always bringing the FACTS!
@notapnala
Ай бұрын
1.crush seed to remove 3/4 of oil 2.remainder makes canola cake 3.70 minute chemical wash with "solvent" to extract 1/4 oil 4.sell remaining cake as animal feed 5.rince and wash oil with drain cleaner (sodium hydroxide) 6.spin to seperate, sell impurities to soap manufacters 7.cool oil to solidify and remove putrid fat 8.keep putrid fat to make vegetable shortening 9.wash and filter again 10.bleach to lighten colour 11.inject steam to remove canola smell 12.pour into toxic plastic bottles or you could just buy butter.... kzitem.info/news/bejne/pJyhmH2OpYyVlX4si=1TGyEqoscwnoVyap&t=49
@denofpigs2575
Ай бұрын
"Yeah but water is a chemical too so checkmate" 😂
@smaug660
Ай бұрын
@@notapnala none of your statements proof anything. You just described a process. 1000s of proper studies DO proove seed oils are quite healthy. That's the problem, non of you circus artists understand proof
@mr.darknessrevealed8630
Ай бұрын
Mike thank you... I heard A PhD exercise scientist say seed oils are fine and nearly facepalmed my head off. It's unbelievable "educated" doctors and PhDs believe these things are safe for consumption.
@soez_strg6166
Ай бұрын
so whats wrong with seed oils? you realize cold pressed high quality seed oils are superfoods.
@AnneMB955
Ай бұрын
@@soez_strg6166Examples?
@truthtelleranon
Ай бұрын
@@soez_strg6166😂👍
@sebastianhoracioforondagon8813
Ай бұрын
Nick Norwitz is an ethic phD you should follow him
@sebastianhoracioforondagon8813
Ай бұрын
@@soez_strg6166are not you are totally wrong there is not such thing as a super food .🤡
@Charvo75
Ай бұрын
A family friend of mine is an owner and chef of a vegan restaurant. She uses seed oil a lot. She is around 40 and had to be hospitalized recently. In Asia, folks reuse oil often. This oxidized seed oil is probably a major contributor to the high liver cancer rates.
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 Now THAT'S science! 😂😂😂
@martinholt7229
29 күн бұрын
@@jvlbme it's anecdotal but that doesn't mean it should automatically be dismissed. Everyone should combine research with their own personal knowledge and experience to make the best decisions possible for themselves.
@fakeperson4069
Ай бұрын
Those vegetable/seed oils are highly processed as soon i got off them wow i got healthy aslo i do carnoive lost 134 and keep it off never eating vegetable/seed oils
@daesong1378
Ай бұрын
If you ever watch Ben Bikman, he talks about how seed oils stop fat cells from growing through hyperplasia, so since they can’t increased in number they have to carry a fat load that is higher than they are designed too, which causes inflammation and insulin resistance. Keep in mind this explanation has 2 factors, one is energy overload(over eating), and the second is storage restriction.(down regulated hyperplasia)
@JasonActualization
Ай бұрын
Let them lubricate machinery, not mankind.
@georgemoonman2830
Ай бұрын
Funny how since i stopped eating seed oils and only eat animal fats, all of my inflammatory conditions have resolved and ive lost 10's of kg of body fat.
@troy3423
Ай бұрын
It's almost like you lost weight from removing high fat high sugar foods out of your diet
@qtip919
Ай бұрын
I usually just do the opposite of whatever 'experts' tell me
@julienfroidevaux1143
Ай бұрын
You snort asbestos?
@martinholt7229
29 күн бұрын
@@julienfroidevaux1143 Reddit-tier humor. So quirky, so random! What a special unique snowflake you are!
@bocagoodtimes1460
Ай бұрын
Who paid for that study ?.....oh the Canola gang lol
@Winterascent
Ай бұрын
This study is like those studies paid for by the sugar industry that claimed sugar was fine and meat was bad.
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
Ай бұрын
Canola barely has any omega-6 compared to other oils lol
@smaug660
Ай бұрын
@@bocagoodtimes1460 do you people actually believe in "big seed oil"? Oh my god, we truely reached the pinnacle of $tupid....
@bocagoodtimes1460
Ай бұрын
@@smaug660 Do the research yourself….it’s all out in the open….seed oils are bad for your health.
@omnimetric84
Ай бұрын
@@smaug660 wow, you’re all over the place! Yes, “big seed oil”, as you’ve misnamed it, is a Big Corp thing. Only they have the $ to build the massive industrial infrastructure to chemically pull oil from seeds and then massively market the poison as “food”.
@lindag9975
Ай бұрын
Those vegetable/seed oils are highly processed. I cut them out, along with several other inflammatory things that are sold as foods.
@nbrown5907
Ай бұрын
Don't some cities still put fluoride in their water? We will never learn and when we do we forget by the next generation. When a true A.I. is born we be terminated.
@joykelly567
Ай бұрын
It is in Illinois water by STATE LAW!
@joykelly567
Ай бұрын
God will allow humans to go so far. He has stopped it before. He will stop it again. There has always been a remnant that he preserves. The overlords have always been in control, eating the slave class' children & working them to death. All the ancient cultures suggest this. But, they won't win in the end.
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@RC-qf3mp
Ай бұрын
I feel much better and have decreased inflammation after eating fish 7 days a week and cutting out all seed oil, and that includes just eliminating restaurant food.
@drip369
Ай бұрын
Dr Mike Isratel doesn't see Any problem with industrual seed oils. I like his content around form and intensity as well as programming, but I would never take lifestyle advice or nutrition advice from Dr Mike
@adrianvelazquez6085
Ай бұрын
@@waynealan3067 doctor because of a phd in sports science, not a medical doctor brother. People love calling themselves dr all over because of havinga phd... they enjoy the title.
@drip369
Ай бұрын
@@adrianvelazquez6085 true but he is still trying to act like he knows everything about everything even though he doesn't study these things, or he only knows what they taught him in school which would be what was sponsored by the pharmaceutical industry anyways but I've had plenty of people talk about their IBS going away just from cutting out seed oils and not having margarine anymore
@hughmonbean
Ай бұрын
Dr. Mike Isratel also takes steroids and has stated that he knows they’re killing his brain cells amongst other nefarious symptoms they’re causing him. 😵💫😥
@hughmonbean
Ай бұрын
Dr. Mike Isratel also takes PED’s despite stating that he knows they’re causing his brain cells to die amongst other nefarious symptoms.😵💫😢
@-astrangerontheinternet6687
Ай бұрын
Dr Mike uses steroids, and his information, while entertaining, isn’t applicable to folk who won’t poison themselves.
@ChadCilli
Ай бұрын
Layne cherry picked the studies. Go read them. They don’t support his claims.
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
Ай бұрын
"In a double-blind and randomized trial in overweight individuals, we show that overeating SFA from palm oil causes pronounced liver fat accumulation. Concomitantly, both circulating liver enzymes and ceramides increased, indicating hepatocellular injury. In contrast, despite similar weight gain, overeating PUFA from sunflower oil completely blocked liver fat accumulation and even improved the blood lipid profile. Importantly, adverse metabolic effects, induced by SFA or PUFA, normalized after weight loss." "However, the present study demonstrated that a diet high in LA decreased ICAM-1 and E-selectin levels, and tended to decrease CRP. Of note is that ALA also increased in this diet, resulting in lower LA:ALA or (n-6):(n-3) ratios. Given that (n-3) fatty acids exert anti-inflammatory responses, the addition of (n-3) fatty acids to a diet rich in (n-6) fatty acids might counteract the potentially adverse effect of LA on endothelial function." Not all of them mention inflammation so I'm not sure why he cited them for inflammation, but they do support his other claims elsewhere.
@huntrayisabeast16
Ай бұрын
Seems like any layne norton or dr mike vids about this are just "there is no scientific research to support that theyre harmful". Like...what do you mean, you have biochemists and harvard Doctors/researchers publishing plenty that points towards it being harmful, and i guess all these.mullions of people who are making the switch are just talking out of their ass right? Talking out of their ass about lifelong symptoms lessening or going into remission. Right yeah its all just bullshit anecdotes, right? Nah i dont think so.
@diveshs295
Ай бұрын
I have removed all seed oils from my diet and my health improved. When I tried them again my gut became inflamed. There is something there.
@thedlink2800
Ай бұрын
you have crohn or something similar?
@diveshs295
Ай бұрын
@@thedlink2800 I used to have sibo. Maybe I had something else but it's all gone now. Carnivore diet fixed it.
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
@@thedlink2800Ofcourse he clearly told you what he added and removed to see change, but yeah his gut is the problem not the thing he just removed.
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
Ай бұрын
@@Tate525 His gut should be able to handle a certain amount. Granted if i eat some fries food i don't necessarily feel great, but i wouldn't say i get intestinal distress in any noticeable way.
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
@@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans I think he knows better what his gut could or couldn't handle, we are nobody to speculate here.
@lalaland2797
Ай бұрын
I’m still under the impression that seed oils are bad
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
@@lalaland2797 😔 how dare you critical thinking capabilities. Just buy more cheap processed foods filled with waste product so we can make billions
@QueenLiliTheRed
Ай бұрын
The doctors lost me as soon as they said "Safe and Effective"
@chargermopar
Ай бұрын
Seed oils are not food, and are not needed to cook food. Lard and tallow are so much better! Would you drink canola oil? You can eat lard and not get sick. I am so sensitive to seed oils that if I eat chicken cooked in them I get a headache hours after! Heart Attack Chicken fried in tallow never ever gives me bad symptoms!
@JohnWilliams-gy5yc
Ай бұрын
Crisco : Guess who makes this episode so crispy?
@walterjeworski4618
Ай бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, PUFA depletes vitamin E, something which many individuals become deficient in over years of PUFA consumption which can lead to yellow fat disease in later years
@nick7072
Ай бұрын
Sounds like bullshit. I use sunflower oil to cook, use mayo with sunflower oil in it, and eat like 50g of flaxseed meal, and in my recent vitamin E test I came in the middle of the normal range.
@NuvoVision
Ай бұрын
Layme Norton is to heatlh like Destiny is to politics. Whatevvver the msm says is true🤦♂️🤦♂️. Cannot stand his robot ass.
@cheesypotat0es
Ай бұрын
My dad told me in the 1960s everybody cooked with butter and lard and people in public were pleasing to look at and healthy...
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
@@cheesypotat0es pictures and data supports that. I do wonder how much smoking helped with weight though .
@rodstone1597
Ай бұрын
@@jackoverton8343 I don't really think smoking effects satiety as much as people think. This is coming from someone who is 32 and started smoking when I was 16, I recently just quit in January this year. It could be just that I am on a 99% carnivore diet, but idk.
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
You mean those people who died of cancer, diabetes and heart attacks? Why use science when you can just reminiscence on what random anecdotes relatives have? 🤣🤣🤣
@jackoverton8343
Ай бұрын
@@jvlbme prior to processed foods we ate even more animal based and heart disease was unheard of.
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
@@jackoverton8343 Unsurprisingly you keep acting stupid. Heart disease was the LEADING cause of death in the 60s, as it is now. Go take a nap or something, and come back when you've learnt to differentiate between hearsay, rumors, anecdotes and science. I expect to hear nothing more from you, thus.
@jheichelbech
Ай бұрын
I picked up some humus on sale that has canola oil in it, meh. Not ideal but it's a reminder to read labels on items we think are healthy. The 6/3 ratio impact is probably negligible.
@SkedgySky
Ай бұрын
Soylent has canola in it. Many seem to do fine with it.
@joykelly567
Ай бұрын
I love troll oil! Pure carnivore, always delicious. Add liquid salty tears! Yum! Simple & Scrumptious.
@zene2550
Ай бұрын
I know muliptle randomized trials showing inflammation
@coachkhan8424
Ай бұрын
link them
@dan-qe1tb
Ай бұрын
I know multiple randomized trials not showing inflammation kzitem.info/news/bejne/jq6Kx3V-jHh5iIo
@joykelly567
Ай бұрын
YT doesn't allow links.
@rememberme3762
Ай бұрын
Name them
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
Ай бұрын
There are multiple clinical trials AND meta analyses showing reduced inflammation, so go figure
@Andy_Arkadata
Ай бұрын
The study he linked fed people MUFFINS. MUFFINS!! 😂
@CircumambulationMaedia
Ай бұрын
Love your work, BUT, migraines have absolutely nothing to do with inflammation. True migraines (not headaches) are always, 100% of the time, a lack of electrolyte at the neuron. The migraine symptoms are are caused by an increase in voltage on the neuron as the brain is trying to get a signal across but is having difficulties due to the lack of electrolyte. Migraines can be completely abolished by removing carbohydrates from the diet and increasing salt consumption. This is all layed out in Dr Angela Stanton's book on the migraine epidemic. I highly recommend it. Anecdotally I can also confirm when I eat carbs, I get 1-3 migraines a week, so I eat lion exclusively and my migraines have stopped completely. Carnivore is king.
@giorgiocooper9023
Ай бұрын
The « experts » or better, paid salesmen of the food industry will obviously continue to tell consumers that seed and vegetable oils are healthy !
@tylert4271
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately I've long suspected that both Layne Norton and Mike Israel are part of the opposition. This further my suspicions. Get Cate Shanahan back on the podcast!
@JamieR
Ай бұрын
We gotta be careful who we consume information from. Layne has been called out so many times by Dr. Anthony Chaffee to have a debate and he never even responds. Seems like he knows he'll be called out.
@nataliajimenez1870
Ай бұрын
They are industry shills. They have been claiming for years that high sugar diets are not worse than any other diet. This shows how they are willing to shill for the sugar industry and now are shilling for the seed oil refineries
@chriskozak7356
Ай бұрын
Norton is a toolbag. He cares about what works for him, not the truth @@JamieR
@eddiegrant58
Ай бұрын
I think they just lack humility, more so Layne Norton.
@lolo20adaify
Ай бұрын
@JamieR dude, honestly! I remember when Dr. Chaffee called him out because he layney wasn't reading his own studies. And layney stopped making videos about Dr Chaffee 😂 I think it was hilarious
@xedxed-1819
Ай бұрын
I love both of you tbh, u both helps me to pursue healthy lifestyle
@jeffreysantore7606
Ай бұрын
Inflammatory or not I DO NOT want to put an industrial lubricant in my body when there are other HEALTHY choices made by the hand of god .
@dustinirwin1
Ай бұрын
Wait until you hear what water is being used for. You definitely don’t want to put that in your body.
@user-sp2yu9zt6h
Ай бұрын
Butter, olive oil and beef tallow is all you should be consuming.
@Sarah-with-an-H
Ай бұрын
Theres a reason why Lane Norton is often called Lame Norton.
@steventurner197
Ай бұрын
But but but he has a PHD 🤣
@Sarah-with-an-H
Ай бұрын
@@steventurner197 and?
@rorowwa1
Ай бұрын
@@Sarah-with-an-H that was a joke
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
@@steventurner197Yeah he has a PhD and Bradley Martyn is 265. One can't critiqued and the other can't be defeated.
@matsv201
Ай бұрын
When i heard about the issue with seed oil i quite all oils cold tukey. I was considerably better in just two days, and i have keep improving over the two month after and basically all of the symptoms are gone now. Both my own doctor (that is really good) recomended me to do that, as well as my father that been a MD for almost 50 years (yea, he is technically a senior, still working)
@asherahalchemy5101
Ай бұрын
It's hard to accept, and make dietary changes, but what you say is true. Inflammation reduced.
@parkourz0
Ай бұрын
I'd take a look at Anthony Chaffee's and Nick Norwitz's videos on Layne "I have a PHD!" Norton. Eye opening about the man
@sansnom
Ай бұрын
I can already foresee Lane's response : Show me the human data... while eating his bowl of Lucky Charms
@Andy_Arkadata
Ай бұрын
“Fent isn’t that bad because in this study the group that did fent were slightly better off than the group that did crack.” - Lame Norton
@BlindBosnian
Ай бұрын
Here's a challenge for anyone who thinks there's nothing wrong with seed oils: drink a single spoon of any seed oil that you have at hand (sunflower, canola, soybean etc). People who use olive oil can not only drink a spoon of olive oil with no problems, but actually enjoy it and like the taste. Can seed oil fans say the same?
@georgemoonman2830
Ай бұрын
@@BlindBosnian now try the same thing with butter :) Most olive oil you find in stores is adulterated or oxidised, it's really only marginally better for you than seed oils, animal fats are the species appropriate choice for humans - since I dropped olive oil my blood pressure has gone from 148/110 to 118/72
@FedorBP
Ай бұрын
@@georgemoonman2830 melted butter no, no. But to eat a piece of chilled butter is not a problem for me. I like it. Concerning olive oil. I cannot find the original source of information, but it was quite a discussed topic a while ago that most plant oils (not only olive) in grocery stores are oxidized. And a funny finding was that a lot of people prefer the taste of oxidized olive oil. And I don't believe that people really like the pure taste of olive oil. It's bitter. Maybe those who follow Dr Gundry, who says: "If it tastes, good spit it out".
@BlindBosnian
Ай бұрын
@@georgemoonman2830 Were you buying extra virgin or just regular olive oil? Big difference between the two. The latter usually has seed oil mixed with it.
@No_Frills_Carnivore
Ай бұрын
@@georgemoonman2830 that's awesome! I dropped olive and avocado oil too. I stick with animal fats now and my health is so much better than it's ever been.
@No_Frills_Carnivore
Ай бұрын
I poured some oil on my front garden. Just a little patch. A week later I noticed everything where I poured the oil was dead. The grass, the weeds in that area, some creepy crawlies.... there was just a circle of dead garden - the rest of the garden was green and good. It actually shocked me. I didn't think that little bit of oil would kill everything it touched. It took months for that patch to start getting better and it's still not 100% yet. So imagine putting that shit inside your body.. what it will do to you smh.. no thank you. Stick to animal fat.
@RandyM403
Ай бұрын
That Norton guy is bought and paid for. Sell out. I have no interest in what he has to say for now on. No respect for him. Didn't he also come out against fasting lately? The only way I've ever lost weight is through Intermittent Fasting. He's bought and paid for. Those companies know what they're doing.
@beardumaw24
9 күн бұрын
Dr Paul Mason explained how seed oils damage your cell membrane and actually make your cell structure much weaker, very interesting hearing Pauls research on this.
@Patryk....
Ай бұрын
Seed oils are beneficial. Simple as it is: ''Intakes of plant-sourced cooking oils, including peanut oil, soybean oil, canola oil, salad oil, & other plant cooking oils and substituting plant cooking oils for animal cooking oils were associated with lower total mortality among Chinese population''
@Charvo75
Ай бұрын
I know some folks like to use calories in, calories out. From my experience, cutting out seed oils while increasing other calories from fruit and protein is extremely beneficial for burning those calories. Easy to stay lean without seed oils.
@bobbbababobo
Ай бұрын
Con artists often come across as nice and very likeable people. Only fools or those who are dishonest argue against results. Anyone who has eliminated seed oils from their diet and has experienced improvement in their general health knows the truth.
@reneesherman1385
Ай бұрын
I ingested some soybean oil in a salad dressing while at a family party. I hadn't had any seed oils in several months and it was the only thing I consumed that would be suspect. Within an hour my old shoulder pain had returned and I had lower back pain. Maybe it was just a coincidence :)
@dan-qe1tb
Ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be better to directly address the source of the back pain itself instead of hoping avoiding this or that food will make the pain go away? Are you sedentary? Do you lift things unsafely? Have you been in an auto accident? I do dead lifts regularly and still don't get back pain.
@reneesherman1385
Ай бұрын
@@dan-qe1tb I tried many months of PT without much improvement. When I removed inflammatory foods from my diet my pain went away within a few weeks.
@deelowco
Ай бұрын
They are because as soon as i stopped seed oils i can feel a difference
@iroulis
Ай бұрын
@Mike: Could you talk about FULLY hydrogenated 100% saturated fats, shortening, made from ANY base fat, plant and animal, prevalent before widespread availability of refrigeration? I'm thinking it is the best dietary fat that industrialization produced: Never goes rancid (trans) because it has no unsaturated bonds.
@tomf.2274
Ай бұрын
It would have been interesting to have you review the studies Layne Norton, PHD, was referencing in his post.
@paulhailey2537
Ай бұрын
I personally know that they are inflammatory , I KNOW THAT TO BE AN ABSOLUTE FACT
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@angelapriddy6308
Ай бұрын
I have cataracts because of seed oils they cause all kinds of havoc in the body
@adrianvelazquez6085
Ай бұрын
I don't consume seed oils, but what evidence do you have they were the direct cause of your health problem?
@HexOptimal
Ай бұрын
"Very mainstream" isn't exactly a good thing to be anymore lol
@samorr4
Ай бұрын
Lane is full of BS. He knows not that he knows not.
@ws81086n
Ай бұрын
PSA: the referenced (by LN) sfa v pufa study compared the effects of the two when consumed with muffins. Give me a comparison of steak vs. healthy carb with added seed oil.
@dan-qe1tb
Ай бұрын
What? Few people would say muffins are a healthy form of carbohydrates and fats.
@babehc
Ай бұрын
If it’s not inflammatory then the joint in my elbow hurts every time I eat it.
@henrytang2203
Ай бұрын
'Health wholegrain cereal' gave me prediabetes and digestion issues too. That's probably the no. 1 faux health food I'd avoid. After that, seed oils.
@jamesalles139
Ай бұрын
I just say no. No one has proven this industrially processed seed oil is safe for human consumption. It just isn't worth the risk - something is wrong.
@_Hal9000
Ай бұрын
What oxidizes faster? Yes, seed oils. If i am not mistaken the body can't increase the carbon chain of fatty acids, it is stuck with what some consumes. Eating more easy oxidizable fats leads to more membrane failure of the cell and mitochondria.
@germanicusternus1982
Ай бұрын
Great discussion
@sakuragrl08
Ай бұрын
When I don’t food like seed oil, my body thrives.
@hengyeap7417
Ай бұрын
Tell that to japanese that lived to 100 years old. They consumed seeds😂
@maplin007
Ай бұрын
Two big studies from the 60’s where one ate pufas the other sat fat had the former group with more deaths and in one much more heart disease. Excess Omega 6 fats oxidise and damage LDL, macrophages swallow them but become immobile and become part of plaque in Arteries.
@dustinirwin1
Ай бұрын
And in each of those the PUFA group was given margarine, with hydrogenated oils. Which is why no one of repute relies on those studies.
@maplin007
Ай бұрын
@@dustinirwin1 Omega 6 and 3 are very easily oxidised and should be balanced, eat veg oils and they won’t be. Also your cells walls become weaker when saturated fats are removed.
@dustinirwin1
Ай бұрын
@@maplin007 And yet none of this is demonstrated by human intervention RCTs. In fact, all human intervention RCTs that assess the impact of seed oils fail to provide any evidence of an inflammatory response. Maybe it's true, but at the moment it's speculation, and worse, contrary to lots of evidence.
@maplin007
Ай бұрын
@@dustinirwin1 Just to add Veg oils have plant sterols which mimic cholesterol, the body tries to avoid these and usually takes in about 1%. Some peoples bodies take in way more. These sterols are used to create VLDL and LDL which Oxidise and end up in plaque. The people that absorb plant a lot of plant sterols from Grain products and veg oil inevitably get heart disease. Ironic when these are used to lower cholesterol.
@sebastianhoracioforondagon8813
Ай бұрын
Beautiful content.
@JamieR
Ай бұрын
Nutrition Made Simple on YT made a case FOR these oils. That they are in fact anti-inflammatory, and possibly have many helpful attributes. He showed study after study on their benefits, lack of increase in CRP etc. So I added it, in spades, into my wholefood diet. Over months I consumed way too much of canola oil, hempseed oil, etc. My lymphs in the neck kept swelling and getting bigger over time. My gut health just wouldn't get better. I stopped the oils, my lymphs have improved and my gut has normalized for the first time in 14 years without supplements.
@dan-qe1tb
Ай бұрын
Gil had carefully described what the doses were, of those seed oils in the trials; "At this level, it doesn't cause inflammation". It appears that you had just chosen not to follow them. He can't comment on what might happen to people having six tablespoons a day of canola oil when they had used one or two in the trials. He states what the healthy range of intake would be for most anything, where available. He also advocates against the click bait pass/fail, superfood or poison approach you often see on social media. I don't see the connection between lymphs in your neck and your gut health and eating too much canola oil.
@billyruffian1426
Ай бұрын
That Nutrition Made Simple is absolutely clueless. Like Lane Norton, completely incompetent to assess scientific studies and evidence.
@sebastianhoracioforondagon8813
Ай бұрын
Exactly and they are so bad design in those studies
@JR-wf5kg
Ай бұрын
One thing I always wonder about these studies is what type of oil are they using? Are they using the low-quality mass-produced trash most people consume or are they using high quality cold pressed canola oil.
@sebastianhoracioforondagon8813
Ай бұрын
@@JR-wf5kg the problem is that canola is a seed that is very difficult to extract the oil. They have to put some solvents and other shits, and the answer is high quality press canola oil but is not such thing as a high quality canola oil. That is not a product for humans
@TiMalice2009
Ай бұрын
I’m not eating them.
@capcomfan82
Ай бұрын
Maybe if they weren’t oxidized they wouldn’t be so terrible but they always are.
@BarkusMuhl
Ай бұрын
@capcomfan82 and that's why they are always deodorized. The oils wouldn't pass the smell test or taste test and we wouldn't put them in our bodies without this step.
@justintowers8230
Ай бұрын
stan efferding said the same thing to derek on a podcast this year. they dont cause inflammation, but then he also says got to make sure you balance our your omega fatty acid ratios. bruh make it make sense.
@Physionic
Ай бұрын
Hey Mike - don't you think a better approach would have been to open the studies Layne cites and include that in your analysis? It seems to me that he references several RCTs, yet the video is largely (though not wholly) focused on associative data. In addition, I agree with your point that we should be encouraging people to get away from processed foods and junk foods that contain seed oils (great point), yet a few moments later you mention seed oils are inflammatory without opening the direct evidence (Layne's citations). I'd also add that if (and this is an assumption as I haven't done my investigation on the topic yet) seed oils are not inflammatory (as Layne states) and the issue is junk food (as you point out and I'm sure Layne would agree), that we should message things this way: "Seed oils may not be directly detrimental, but they contribute to junk food, and junk food is the direct contributor to inflammation." Also, Ramsden et al (which you cite several times) has published some pretty controversial studies (meaning, some of them seem to have some methodological flaws and jump to conclusions). I'm not saying this research is bad, per se, because I haven't read it yet, but there might be a few things to re-examine here. Cheers, Nic
@tuphdc8779
Ай бұрын
Seed oils are a junk food
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
You act like seed oils are only present in junk food, many who do no even eat junk food still end up developing metabollic syndrome, insulin resistance.etc because they are using these seed oils at home for cooking purposes.
@paddy3622
Ай бұрын
Bobby, from flav city, would beg to differ😉
@madhusudan
Ай бұрын
The first principle in researching information is that if the purveyor stands to profit, you disregard the source (even if the info later turns out to be true as verified from other more trustworthy sources). Many are turned off by the scent of "conspiracy theory" but it's just common sense, really.
@andrewjosephtcrp
Ай бұрын
Have you looked into Ray Peat’s position on Omega 3 fatty acids, which is basically that they behave similarly to other PUFA and thus are still pro-inflammatory?
@2ndstreetmarvel
Ай бұрын
💪🏿💪🏿
@jvlbme
Ай бұрын
Judging by the commenters ability to judge scientific studies they mostly use snake oil anyway. 😂😂😂
@Petunia-fl9lu
Ай бұрын
I don't know... I don't have inflammation so can't claim its the seed oils that are protective as I never eat seed oils and I mean never ever - NEVER eat convenience foods or, almond milk (seed oil), processed or baked breakfast cereals (seed oils) or microwave dinners (seed oils) etc I cook all my own meals so theres literally only a bottle of olive oil... butter, duck fat, lard and dripping, in my house. I'm healthy. I think when people add seed oils to salad dressings or something it's possibly not bad, but when it comes in junk food it's obviously adding to calories and low micronutrient base. dose is important as well.
@ramjee8211
Ай бұрын
LN has been purchased.?
@gaiacielo5090
Ай бұрын
Heart disease, diabetes, macular degeneration so on! There are a lot of people studying this now! You can see the correlations if you look at china, India and so on! And Italy just eelverywhere
@Tate525
Ай бұрын
I read somewhere on the internet, most street vendors in China and India keep reusing seed oils throughout the day or even days on end, they only throw it once it visibly goes rancid.
@VegetaPrinceOfSaiyans
Ай бұрын
Mentioning canola doesn't make sense in this case because its linoleic acid content is quite low compared to other seed oils.
@BaltasarVespuchi
Ай бұрын
Can't stand Lame Norton.. Loved when he got humilated by Anthony Chaffee.. so funny, Lame Norton doesn't even read his on studies.
@aurapopescu1875
Ай бұрын
What about organic COLD-PRESSED sunflower oil? It is very high in vit. E.
@juan_martinez524
Ай бұрын
is there a study that tests the difference between junk food with and without seed oils? only that would say for certain.
@charansidhu36
Ай бұрын
I dont know much but as seed oils are bad. Can we eat seeds like sunflower seed for vitamins in it?
@yasseressa1696
Ай бұрын
Your evidence is weak compared to the studies he provided. Just because you see someones symptoms improve doesn't mean it directly correlates with inflammation going down you have to provide evidence of the inflammation going down correlation does not equal causation this is one of the most basic concepts of medical studies. You're using symptomatic effects to explain inflammation when the studies he provides directly mesures inflammatory markers
@rashoff
5 күн бұрын
Common sense is common sense. Seed oils are being overconsumed, most of their PUFAs are Omega-6. High Omega-6 in relation to Omega-3 IS inflammatory, and that's not even taking into account how processed these oils are. PUFAs have double-bonds that make them more unstable than other fats, especially when heated, and high PUFA fats barely have shelf life
@gustav4539
Ай бұрын
Top result on Google quotes a Harvard paper PROMOTING linoleic acid. Cool.
@georgecav
Ай бұрын
Gil “I am a MD and a PhD” presented for seed oils by presenting research that seed oils did not increase crp and then essentially pushed that seed oils are good. As Simon Hill says, you can find research to support almost any hypothesis you want. Personally, I only start to really listen to apparently well run beneficial or otherwise outcome trials. All the rest is extrapolated conjecture. If anyone can link to those kind of studies that would be good. Till then I stick to Olive oil as the least controversial.
@LoveAllJoy
Ай бұрын
What about Black Seed Oil?
@caiobedinminatel
Ай бұрын
This only shows how important it is to choose carefully who we trust.
@jordanesquetyson8223
Ай бұрын
So, vegans eats a lot more processed foods, could it be the processed food, not the soy oil, causing the inflammation?
@mbaksa
Ай бұрын
It's not either-or situation - plenty of things cause inflammation.
@kathymcgraw4495
Ай бұрын
No ADDED oil is good for the human body. Whole foods in their natural state 🎉
@JamieR
Ай бұрын
Tallow, lard, quality butter etc isn't bad for the body though. Maybe not in too excess amounts, but it seem to be fine in the amounts the body of that individual can break down (unless genetic predisposed for something which causes fat in excess to cause dysfunction in some way).
@TheJollyMisanthrope
Ай бұрын
No reason to go out of your way to consume them, regardless of what "experts" are saying. One less thing to worry about when it comes to your health.
@chicagodude8888
Ай бұрын
You need to analyze Dr. Gil Carvhalo from nutrition made simple. Big proponent of plant based diets low in saturated fats.
@waldguy
Ай бұрын
Edit needed: Canada is not a primary grower of Cotton Seed @10:11
@ango586
Ай бұрын
Butter and eggs are great though 😂😂 dairy and meat industry sponsored studies
@CosmicawarenessCitizen
Ай бұрын
Could someone explain to me why I get bloated by consuming creatine monohydrate ? Is it like my body reaction to it or eating a specific food after the creatine ? I just become so bloated that I'm starting to suspect I would have to suspend creatine monohydrate and change it for the HCL one
@ajfoyt1163
Ай бұрын
Just wanted to throw my 2¢ in here... it's just worth mentioning that NO ONE can provide evidence that consumption of seed oils provides benefits that make it worth the risk they COULD pose, (especially since we have so many other proven options) but there IS plenty of evidence that seed oils can bring negative outcomes. So...why bother with them? 🤷🏻♂️ Just use butter, talo, or another animal fat. I'm pretty sure (as in, I have yet to see one) there's NO LEGITIMATE STUDY proving animal fats are harmful. 😉👍
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