Another great video Joseph. This is a pre facelift car. The front grille is one of the giveaways for this. The I-cockpit was always designed to be viewed over the small steering wheel, I always felt it was a good design and a comfortable driving position. Fun fact: The Allure trim offered different seat fabrics for 3 or 5 door variants. Ice velvet had a Matt finish silver paintwork.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Simon! Yes, the i-Cockpit worked better than expected. Appreciate you putting me straight about whether it is a pre-facelift model too. Either way, it's quite a nice looking car, although some kind of parking aid at the rear would be nice. How strange that there was different fabric on the three and five door versions of the Allure... That matt silver finish sounds just as strange as the Ice Velvet trim level itself!
@FuelPower
3 жыл бұрын
One of my friends had a 208 Black edition (White with black roof and mirror caps) with the same engine as this. It is by no means the quickest car on the market but it seemed to be reliable. I agree with you, it is a good looking car and a 3 cylinder engine is always exciting to hear thrumming away under the bonnet. The Puretech turbo 1.2 is great fun with the power to push it along comfortably at speed. The gloveboxes are still laughably rubbish on these in RHD markets at least. it is literally a glove box, not many other things will fit. Great video once again Joseph.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, dreadful glovebox like a lot of other PSA Group cars of the time. The 1.2 Puretech without the turbo is not the fastest, but it is a smooth engine, and I haven't heard any horror stories about it (unlike the Prince engine that I cannot talk about). The 110 bhp turbo is brilliant, I very much enjoyed driving a DS3 with that engine in it a few years ago. Funny how the main colour on that Black Edition car was white! Thanks again, sir.
@calumbaxter9946
3 жыл бұрын
Well I am glad I washed it at least! I have only ever driven it twice myself and the second time was today.. It is my partners car hence the mucky interior 😂
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks ever so much indeed again, Calum! Please thank your partner again for providing the car for review. Apart from the robotised manual gearbox and the lack of parking sensors, I was actually pretty impressed with it. Appreciate you washing it too!
@DavidJohnston58
3 жыл бұрын
Had two 207s prior to changing to Fiestas , same engine as Fiesta ( a type which are never talked about on here 😉) weren't a bad little car, moved to petrols after first Fiesta around 2010. Eight out of ten of us had 207s the two guys with Fiestas looked happier so we all moved that way 😁
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Well sir, I spoke to Mr Coleman recently, and the 207s powered by the fuel we do not speak of were almost as bad as the ones with the Prince engine, again which we cannot talk about on the channel. Have you seen my 207 review? The one I tested really was not very good. I would say a Mark VI Fiesta was probably quite a lot better than one of those, and this 208 is a great deal better too.
@garybiker1433
3 жыл бұрын
Im biding on one on Ebay...thanks for the road test..
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
If you are buying one, try to avoid the diesels and the ones fitted with the Prince engine and you can't go far wrong!
@jgreen8339
2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I stretched to a face-lift 208 1.2 with the newer eat6 aisin automatic and it is much more responsive and smoother than the previous ETG I tried (like your one on test). 110 bhp is a really good upgrade if your budget allows. Before that I inherited a 2009 207 1.6 4-speed auto and it was woeful. It was passed onto me at 13,000 miles and there were already shudders as it shifted. It was slow and thirsty and sounded like a diesel when cold. Drank tonnes of oil too. The 82hp version doesn't have a cover, wet timing belt (which causes issues).
@lloydvehicleconsulting
2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness me! The good old Prince engine in a 207... No wonder we don't discuss the Prince engine on this channel. I did a 207 almost three years ago on the channel, and it was an absolutely awful car. The review is in the description if you can bear to watch it! This 208 is a vastly superior car, apart from that terrible robotised manual gearbox, which is not quite as bad as the one in the Fiat 500s, but isn't ideal. I have driven the six speed automatic in a DS3 with the 110 bhp engine, and it was absolutely fantastic. That Prince engine....I had better stop talking about it!
@jgreen8339
2 жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting haha agreed! Peugeot really lost their way after the 205 but fortunately are making some crackers these days. I'll definitely watch your 207 review even for laughs back to my undergraduate days in one. Love my face-lift 208. It has never put a foot wrong so far. It regularly goes happily between my base in Nottingham for work back to Norwich to see family.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
2 жыл бұрын
@@jgreen8339 , yes, the 206/207/307 in particular were not very good. Oh, we had plenty of laughs making that 207 review, I can assure you! The 208 is a vastly superior car with that the Puretech engine. They knew they had to do better than the 207, and they did.
@alansimpson835
3 жыл бұрын
This is a good looking car. It looks to me far more like an evolution of the 206 than the 207. It's like Peugeot just pretended the 207 didn't happen. The tiny steering wheel amuses me too as does Allure. Always makes me think of Miranda. Callum need not worry. His car is much cleaner on the outside than mine was when I filmed it!
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
It's looking fine, sir! The 207 was not a good car. The 206 wasn't brilliant either, really, but they sold absolutely millions of them. You are right, I think they decided to put the 207 behind them when designing this. The i-Cockpit is all right, I expected it to be a problem, but it really wasn't.
@seancooke4127
3 жыл бұрын
A massive improvement on the 207 certainly, some 207 owners have been lucky some have had expensive repairs. No such trouble with the 208 as far as I am aware. Seemed roomy and comfortable and surprisingly practical. Lovely colour.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a huge improvement on the 207 (I speak from personal experience, as you know). A car which was very hit and miss in terms of quality and reliability. The Puretech three cylinder has proven to be much more reliable than the Prince engine, and this was a car that was surprisingly nice to drive (robotised manual gearbox aside)...
@raymondhunt6109
3 жыл бұрын
Ray Hunt Had a facelifted 208 GT line 110 pure tec turbo eat,lovely car to drive and fast enough, wish I'd kept it now.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I hired a DS3 a few years ago in Germany with the 1.2 Puretech 110 bhp engine and an automatic gearbox. I was impressed how smooth and quick it was, the gearbox is different from the robotised manual in this 208. That sounds like a great version of the car!
@PlanetautoUK
3 жыл бұрын
Ah good old Pugs, I’m very fond of sporty little models, the only challenge I find is with Mums 206cc - head room is shall we say tight, decent engines if not a little underpowered though and great handling. *B
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
The 206s were phenomenally popular, I think they were the last Peugeot built in Britain (although not the CC). The TU engines in the 206 are very different from the Prince engines in the 208, they are probably more reliable, actually, although sometimes they are prone to head gasket failure. It isn't particularly common if you continue to look after them and change the cambelt, etc. Absolutely, not a lot of room in a 206 CC for people who are 6'3"!
@henryhol8538
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, my Daughter has a manual one of these! Yes the glovebox can only hold one glove.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
I would certainly recommend the manual over the automatic. Can't do anything about the glovebox, though...
@colinhicks4174
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve just been looking up the Puretech engines as I thought they were cambelt, not timing chain. According to some forum sites they are effectively in between. They were launched with a ‘wet belt’ which was supposed last the ‘life of the car’. Hmmm reminiscent of the N47 timing chain issue. Some of the early Puretechs began to fail at around 100000km/60000mi. PSA ‘fixed’ it sometime around 2015 without acknowledging the issue. Apparently though PSA do recommend to change the belt but I cannot find out when. This was after a quick browse of the Peugeotforums.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the fashionable wet belt engine! This is not the only example. Mr Coleman, predictably, does not like this sort of thing very much. You are right, sort of between a cambelt and timing chain. They are better than the Prince engine, that is all I know.
@Witheredgoogie
3 жыл бұрын
Reminded of the glory days of Peugeot with the 105/205/405 etc,so it had a hard act to follow but it still looks good in 2020 IMHO. a worthy successor after PG loosing its way for a time.What is a slight irritation with budget cars these days is they put a 'screen' in just because it is fashionable - when in reality they don't do much more than conventional controls and will probably be a expensive pest when they get older..I think many would appreciate just a dashboard port/slot to mount your own phone and an app if you like to control your car that way.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that you mention a slot into which to put a smartphone on a dashboard and app you can download to contol certain functions, that is what the Volkswagen Up!/Skoda Citigo/Seat Mii trio have had for years! Most 208s had this screen, which was better in the post-facelift cars (this is a pre-facelift one). Peugeot had an excellent track record by the mid-1990s, and I would love to try a 205 and 405 on the channel. This 208 was definitely a sign of things changing for the better at Peugeot, and I was surprised how good it was.
@Witheredgoogie
3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Oh I didn't know that, so you could stick a cheap old tablet in there (not worry about theft) and still have more power than some of the screens in cars today.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
@@Witheredgoogie , our purpose on this chnanel, as always, is to educate and inform!
@willswheels283
3 жыл бұрын
I quite like these cars, most French cars are nice cars to drive and the styling is good. My experience with French cars is their ability to give you nasty suprises, mainly electrical gremlins with Renault, and mechanical maladies with Peugeot/Citroen giving rise to huge garage bills.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
Oh sir, now you know why I do not often recommend French cars of a certain age to clients. I do feel a lot more confident about this one, though. As I mentioned in the video, we stay away from the ones powered by the fuel we cannot mention and also the Prince engine. The 207 was really not very good.
@willswheels283
3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yeah I think newish French cars are ok, but they don’t age well, and they don’t survive poor servicing well. My Scenic has frequently developed electrical gremlins out of the blue, electric park brake decided not to work, then start working again, the dash throws up faults that don’t exist, and sometimes takes a couple of attempts to start it in the morning. It’ll be going for scrap in the spring when I can get the Rover back on the road.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
@@willswheels283 , yes, this is why Renaults don't tend to feature on the channel very often... Electronic parking brakes are not things which are necessarily going to make things easier in the future, even if they seemed impressive when they were new. I am afraid that it probably is only worth scrap value. It goes without saying that I am around should you need any help sourcing another car, but you may well not need any.
@willswheels283
3 жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thanks Mr Lloyd, I’m hoping the Rover will fill in as the daily driver from March onwards, he needs a bit of work currently that I’m hoping to get done in time for Spring, inc a fresh MOT and I’m looking forwards to driving “him”. Renault should have learnt by now that they need to up the game a bit with their electrical issues, it’s not just their older cars it’s their newer cars too, it’s unacceptable. I’d like either a Freelander or a Honda CRV to replace the Renault.
@lloydvehicleconsulting
3 жыл бұрын
@@willswheels283 , we are still using our 45 V6 at the moment for daily duties (along with the SsangYong, of course), there's no reason why your R3 shouldn't be able to handle them as well. Renaults now have a five year warranty from new, and seem to make some quite nice cars, but I do worry what happens when the warranty expires, as their track record of ten to fifteen year old cars is not great. The suggestions you make for a replacement are quite good. The CR-Vs tend to be rather expensive, I would have to check with Mr Coleman about the Freelanders, as certainly the early Freelander IIs do have their issues. Another one I would throw in would be the Kia Sportage Mark III, they are brilliant. Clearly, this discussion is probably for another time, though.
@zoejxo
Жыл бұрын
Hi I just purchased this car and when in auto it rolls back , any idea why as I have not had this issue with any other autos
@lloydvehicleconsulting
Жыл бұрын
It's due to the gearbox. It's not a normal automatic, it's actually a computer controlled manual with a normal clutch, just without the physical pedal, hence why it can roll back. You should be able to take manual control over it if you take it out of the automatic mode, however.
@zoejxo
Жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting oh right, I only have a automatic license is there any technique to use when using the automatic gear ? Thanks
@lloydvehicleconsulting
Жыл бұрын
@@zoejxo , yes, as you feel the "robot" in the automatic gearbox change gear, lift your foot briefly off the accelerator pedal, and you should find it smooths the changes out a bit, otherwise it probably feels a bit jerky, or use the manual mode.
@zoejxo
Жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting ok thanks I will try this
@zoejxo
Жыл бұрын
@@lloydvehicleconsulting would it be possible if you could do another video with this type of car please ?
@behzadutube
2 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole video hoping you say a word on gearbox, which is an automated manual and VERY slow shifting...
@lloydvehicleconsulting
2 жыл бұрын
It's better than the robotised manual in a Fiat 500 I tried a few years ago, but I would prefer a normal manual gearbox.
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