Steffi Graf truly is Serena's only competition my god Steffi Graf Game was superb all of those ground strokes were Amazing . Steffi Graf game was really good.
@elmoblatch9787
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she was. Remember, this was at the END of her career. In 1990, she won all four slams and the gold medal. She was a tennis goddess.
@georgemavrides3434
8 жыл бұрын
True, and Steffi never had to rely on roids to beat her opponents.
@NewYork4ever25
8 жыл бұрын
+Elmo Blatch end of her career? Give credit where is due and stop making excuses...she was just 30 playing a 17 yr old for God sake...
@juju1305
8 жыл бұрын
+George Mavrides she merely relied on a retarded man who stabbed the better player so that she could get back to #1.
@TheSportslover2010
6 жыл бұрын
Elmo Blatch- Steffi DID NOT win all 4 Grand Slams in 1990. Seles won the French Open that year. Navratilova won Wimbledon that year.
@Cla_Disney
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge, huge fan of Steffi Graf, but Serena was/is something out of this world. Great match!
@alexragland1945
5 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin well apparently not 23 😉
@alexragland1945
4 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin the 23 grand slams that Serena has lol ONLY Serena
@alexragland1945
4 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin does anybody else have 23 grand slams on the women's tour in the open era? Ooh ok so that would be a record . I swear all you do is hate on Serena and try to discredit her do you ever get tired . No matter what you say and no matter what you do you can't ever ever take what Serena has done in tennis so jus be quiet cuz you look and sound dumb!
@alexragland1945
4 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin Great for her I like kerber. Your point? Lol trollin
@alexragland1945
4 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin like i said use any excuse but stay mad as you think about all 23 slams Serena has that ain't goin nowhere 🤣🤣
@vosharap
10 жыл бұрын
GREAT PLAYERS!!! This year had Venus, Serena, Hingis, Davenport, Seles, Graf, Sanchez Vicario, Pierce, and Capriati.
@juancruzcastrobarrera4328
3 жыл бұрын
Cómo quisiera volver a verlas jugar en un campeonato jaja sería genial!!!
@chelsealove6205
9 жыл бұрын
21 grand slam ...one more slam....I can feel it going to 22 and more...live your games serena.you are my best player no matter what..you acheieved it all..what an inspiration. God bless u more
@jopogi26
5 жыл бұрын
If Steffi continued to play in her 30s , I'm sure she will have more championships crown . Steffi paved an era of more physical type of Tennis . She is well disciplined and respectable . Both great but STEFFI IS STILL THE GOAT FOR WOMEN for me .
@TheSportslover2010
5 жыл бұрын
@@jopogi26 - I doubt it. Serena and Venus has gotten better and better and they dominated the WTA. Davenport, Capriati, Mauresmo, Sharapova and Henin also stepped up. Graf wouldn't stand a chance.
@awsetyo1797
2 жыл бұрын
@joseph castillo if seles not stabbed steffi gs titles will decrease maybe 19
@thecamil10
11 жыл бұрын
Graff the best player of all time. At the age of 30 made Serena work really hard to win that match. Serena only 18 and with a lot of power and athleticism.
@doksh5740
2 жыл бұрын
That's funny. You should be recognizing that Serena who is only 18 defeated the top player of her time
@silviatennismusic
4 жыл бұрын
Steffi siempre dándolo todo , menuda campeona ♥️
@doksh5740
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Serena is amazing. Congrats, queen Serena ❤️❤️❤️
@tjrtt
10 жыл бұрын
Two greatest champions in my book. Stats wise Graf still has the edge, but in terms of passion, atheletism and talent Serena is miles ahead. History will be more favorable to Serena as GOAT!
@tjrtt
8 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin, oh really? Lol you are hoping she is not mentioned in 50 years time. The stats tell a different story. Many people of the generation have already forgotten Steffi Graf. Poor you!
@tjrtt
8 жыл бұрын
+Illya Kuryakin In terms of endorsements...Li Na, LMAO As for Facebook, Graf currently has about 500,OOO...Serena hasn't retired yet and well, you guessed it LMAO. We get that you don't like Serena, but stop making stuff up!
@tjrtt
8 жыл бұрын
***** I did and I gave you an answer. No need to get testy with the name calling lol
@tjrtt
8 жыл бұрын
***** Why bring up Graf's endorsements and Facebook followers to begin with. Her endorsements pale in comparison to Li Na's and so does her Facebook followers in comparison to Serena. No one cares about that anyway. It seems like your grasping at straws and it has nothing to do with the basic fact that Serena is way better than Graf.
@tjrtt
8 жыл бұрын
@IIya Kuraykin, so by your reasoning she shouldn't lose to anyone? Like Graf never lost to mediocre players in her time? Serena lost 4 matches this year out of how many played? You have the logic of a 5 year old. BTW Muguruza is now ranked #4...you make no sense.
@QuadThreat85
11 жыл бұрын
I was with you 100% on the Pete statement...he's underrated. Oh yeah Graf did it in 93-94. You can't give her credit for that if you don't give Serena credit for 02-03...and yeah, most don't because it's not calendar. To be honest if Serena wins the AO and FO next year, she will have done something else that has never been done...win all 6 major titles in succession. Because Graf did not win the YEC in 88, she left the door open. Serena is well aware of the records she can still set/match.
@ludwigvanbeethoven61
6 жыл бұрын
Graf had intelligence. Serena Williams manpower
@tibetboy01
11 жыл бұрын
if you watch Steffi over her entire career, you know. we are human, we are not machine. It's not one theory only suits for everyone. Everyone is different. Thanks.
@nattydredz7
9 жыл бұрын
The difference between "true fans" and "fanatics" has never been more evident anywhere than in the comment section of this video.
@hairbrush81
11 жыл бұрын
Lastly Martina Navratilova ran out of a press conference at the 1983 US Open in TEARS since the press were talking more about the horrendous womens field than her own amazing year and achievements. To witness an example of the amazing field of the Martina era these were 3 of the 4 1983 slam finals: 1983 French- Evert d Jaucovec 6-1, 6-2 1983 Wimbledon- Nav d Jaeger 6-3, 6-0 1983 Australian- Nav d Jordan 6-4, 6-4 Yes people those were slam final matchups, not tier 3 finals.
@TechWizz
7 жыл бұрын
Classic Serena. Fight, fight.
@Flipboy5
11 жыл бұрын
I'm not biased at all, aside from Venus, you know no one else moves better than Steffi. Serena maybe more explosive but Steffi is definitely the best mover and has the best footwork in women's tennis, of all time.
@marciamilbanks4264
11 жыл бұрын
JordanjamesX, you're right. And Serena won because of her consummate Skill even back then, not just "power." That beauty of a topspin lob that Serena hit for a winner vs. the great Graf was indicative of things to come when Serena honed her prestigious skill for 16 Major Singles titles!
@fong03
12 жыл бұрын
Serena is #3 on the all time list in my book. I put her behind Martina and Steffi and tie her with Chrissie. She has time to move up if she can keep winning Slams, especially on clay. People like to point to how weak Graf's field was but ignore how weak this era is. Yes they are more athletic but that's true in EVERY sport. The quality of play has dipped in the last 10 years. Serena's main rivals, Justine, Kim and Venus have all basically been MIA during Serena's recent streak.
@dianefinn9730
4 жыл бұрын
Young Serena at her best wow
@sensesense3193
7 жыл бұрын
steffi we love you!
@tzonkotzonkov100
5 жыл бұрын
steffi you'e the best but serena williams is a boy so you gonna have to work harder ....
@marclaumann
11 жыл бұрын
James, I couldn't have said it better myself. Steffi Graf and Tonya Harding are sooo alike! Everyone knows that if Monica was there, that she would have been the one with maybe 10 more slams and not Steffi!
@SiaWinsi
11 жыл бұрын
Really, the fact that Graf made almost twice the amount of GS finals compared to Serena, while still walking away with 7 more GS than Serena, makes Serena better. In what universe that the case?
@jesoby
9 жыл бұрын
Only Serena in the modern game would compete with Graf in her prime allied to latest string technology. She was a far better athlete than today's crop.
@200damary
9 жыл бұрын
jesoby serena is better
@angelflorespacheco8992
11 жыл бұрын
Serena has a great physical and mental power, these are the reasons for his fifteen Grand Slam. But so what can we say about his attitude when he loses, which went against Clijsters against Justine in 2009 or in 2003. In addition she has traced Grand Slam matches practically lost (against Clijsters in 2003, Sharapova in 2005, Dementieva 2009, Azarenka 2010) thanks to his physical strength. She did not see him do one-handed backhand, drop shot, etc..
@QuadThreat85
12 жыл бұрын
It's also funny that you mention all these truths about all the surfaces, balls, etc being slower now...I've been saying that for years, and it's nothing but a testament even further to the greatness of the recent players who have managed that status...male AND female. In these slower conditions, the greats today still manage to hit through the court MUCH faster than the greats of past...and no it's NOT all about the rackets...the balls and surfaces help negate the racket progression.
@HTHAMMACK1
7 жыл бұрын
Monica Seles was not even in Graf's league. So the notion that her attacker is why Graf was so dominant is idiotic. Graf would have bee dominant regardless. She was just far better than everyone else.
@magnetmac1
6 жыл бұрын
Graf was already dominant before Seles was stabbed. Seles was stabbed for a reason - to temporarily slow her down and it unfortunately worked to perfection. Now the notion is that Graf wouldn't have ended up with 22 Slams if it wasn't for Seles' stabbing. Of course that will never be ascertained but the notion is not far-fetched since Seles did beat Graf quite a few times in Grand Slam events.
@magnetmac1
5 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin Don't take it personal, but that was a lame point to use as an excuse for Graf's losses to Seles.
@QuadThreat85
12 жыл бұрын
Yeah it shows that as great as these players were in Graf's time, they really couldn't hold a candle in this era. The only players from Graf's era that would stand a chance now are her and pre-stabbing Seles. If Navratilova and Evert were in Graf's era, I'd count them as well, but neither of them are. Graf fans love to include Martina as part of her era just because she was around for the first couple of year of Graf's rise...playing a B version of herself.
@viz1
11 жыл бұрын
Sharapova elbow injury LOL Serena has owned Maria since 2004 Clisters just retired and she sent Justine packing the last two times they played even a 62 60 spanking in Miami. Serena is the greatest player to ever pick up a raquet.
@oliverjuria993
9 жыл бұрын
Serena is simply the greatest tennis player of all time, Steffi was just lucky she was playing in an era of weaker ladies, except for Monica whom she got rid with the aid of a lunatic fan of hers.
@QuadThreat85
12 жыл бұрын
Just because her footwork slips does not mean she's slow...she can still run most of those other women into the ground. Serena was stooped by surgery/injury during each peak she has achieved in her career...she's doing everything in her power to make sure it doesn't haapen THIS time...just to shut people like you up. Their consistency would not matter if they hardly even get their racket on the ball...as it would be if most of them faced Serena. Her best tennis is just better...period.
@danieln1
9 жыл бұрын
Serena is better and greater than graf
@starside7
7 жыл бұрын
Illya Kuryakin 23 Grand Slam titles to 22 flawed Grand Slam titles!
@stevennieves8308
7 жыл бұрын
Illya Kuryakin In everything Except footwork & maybe forehand Steffi is better than Serena. But Steffi's forehand is only slightly better than Serena's. Obviously, Steffi's slice backhand is better than Serena. But I think that's about it. Volleys are even, mentality is even, Athleticism is even.
@starside7
6 жыл бұрын
Illya Kuryakin Are you ignoring the fact that your fave played finals against Fernandez and Sukova?! That time where the real number 1 was stabbed by your fellow Graf fan!
@hairbrush81
11 жыл бұрын
Evert also has the Open Era record at 2 different slams- French and U.S Open. It is also a well known fact Evert would have many more slams than Martina today (and probably more than Graf even) had it not been for WTT and players all played the Australian and French in the 70s. Martina might have gained 1 or 2 Australians from 77-79 in that case, but that is it. Of course you are happy to trumpet the Seles stabbing what if, but wont dare entertain proper context for other players numbers.
@SiaWinsi
11 жыл бұрын
I wasn't going to mention anything about Chris and Martina. And you think that Serena is going to reach 12 GS finals after 31?? Not to mention her winning 7 GS after 31.And about Chris and Martina, they are some of the greatest champions, if not the greatest, in the women's game. It can even be said that they, especially Martina, were even greater than Graf. Now thats a debate. But Graf against Serena? Please
@SiaWinsi
11 жыл бұрын
A 12 GS final difference is not enough to render winning percentage legitimate, Im sorry. 12 is a very big number when you talk about GS finals. I mean really Roy Emerson's total slam count equals how many more finals Graf has made. And why do you keep mentioning Martina? Never have I said Martina was less of a player than Graf. And if you look at any top ten list of players, published by anyone, it will be a ranking of SINGLES players, which goes to show how much doubles is regarded
@marciamilbanks4264
11 жыл бұрын
?! No it doesn't. The Japanese are famous for their healthy diets and longevity. And even here in the USA a 40 year-old females Swimmer won a silver medal at the Olympics fairly recently! She was buff as all get out too. The network showed her chinning herself over and over again during a workout. Amazing!
@viz1
11 жыл бұрын
So you left out Clisters, Henin, Sharapova, Venus, Victoria A. What multiple grandslam winner did Steffi have to face in their prime? Graf was in the middle of her career in the early 1990 and yet Seles as a teenager was the one ranked #1 and the one winning 9 of those 11 biggest titles between November 1990 and January 1993 until she was stabbed.
@SiaWinsi
12 жыл бұрын
Well glad you were able to analyze Seles so deeply. But lets not forget the fact that Seles was old and again not in her prime when the Williams sisters stepped into the limelight. You keep trying to pit Graf and Seles when they were older against the Williams sisters when they were in the shape of their life. It doesn't work that way. Look at the accomplishments Graf did in her prime, and look at Serena's. Grafs are by far the most impressive
@leydeecute
11 жыл бұрын
i believe that she's capable of winning 20+ slams,--
@QuadThreat85
12 жыл бұрын
I like that list....still might put Evert over Court....MIGHT.....and I'd switch Navratilova and Serena for now....Serena needs to get to 18 first, then for me she will be the undisputed GOAT.
@SiaWinsi
12 жыл бұрын
Considering the fact that Graf was beating Seles on hard courts and SOUNDLY beating Seles on grass, Seles wouldn't have done as much as you Serena fans think she might have. And considering not only does Graf have more French Opens, she has more Wimbledons and US Opens too!!! How awesome is that??? The reason that Graf is better is because she has information that I can grab onto, instead of inferences and guess that only Serena fans can conjure up
@SiaWinsi
12 жыл бұрын
Actually that statement is wrong on so many levels. All of the players I listed were out of their respective primes when Serena came onto the scene. Does prime not mean anything to you? When you are 30, you'e not going to beat the best in their prime. The fact that all of those players I mentioned won their last slam before roughly 2000 proves my point. Really how much research have you put into your argument?
@kellycourtoreille8653
6 жыл бұрын
Very classy with the double kiss with Graf. I love both of them. WOW! 😍 😘
@TheBlerdHQ
10 жыл бұрын
Graf owes a good portion of her illustrious career to Monica Seles' attacker. Because, if Monica had not been injured Graf would have never seen the results she has in the record books today.
@zorglub667
6 жыл бұрын
its amazing how only maybe 1% of the commenters here are able to simply appreciate two of the greatest tennis players instead of all the "whos the best everrrr" bickering. what is this, kindergarden?
@bear-ms3ms
5 жыл бұрын
You too deep in your heart know: who was indisputed number 1 in '91-'92 before gunter? Who was indisputed most winning female tennis player under 20Y of history? Who, stef?Super Mega LOL! Who have world guiness record of stabber fans forever and ever? You know! Go in peace, sad furious kid :-D :-D :-D
@JCole-fg3rr
5 жыл бұрын
Illya Kuryakin nobody is insecure but Serena is the greatest.
@T9RX3
5 жыл бұрын
It is "kindergarten" zorglub667. You should not judge others until you first pass the basics.
@azycan5678
5 жыл бұрын
Both legends from to different eras reminds you of the Sampras and federer match at wimbeldon
5 жыл бұрын
@@JCole-fg3rr lol! SW is a fraud! Only a coward threatens lineswomen! Only a coward hides in a panic room!
@Ineddiblehulk
10 жыл бұрын
THis is just great tennis, both have power and athleticism for days, but the variety, the aggression, it's just brilliant!
@beermoney8554
6 жыл бұрын
Steffi Graf what a Legend.
@KCNwokoye
11 жыл бұрын
Steffi, so elegant and very gracious. Serena just remarkably talented. Very pleased to watch both players. Serena did put on a really good game at that age against another great player. It was a fun match to watch. Miss games like this.
@janjr165
8 жыл бұрын
THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD.
@tyrelljunior2011
7 жыл бұрын
janjr165 *Best Comment*
@pablitol5818
7 жыл бұрын
Totally
@chrato74
6 жыл бұрын
Courtesy of Gunther Parche.
@victorlupas4875
6 жыл бұрын
just like fed vs sampras in atp
@dennisjacks7923
5 жыл бұрын
NO...not really. Evert clobbered her 6-0.6-2 at the US Open 4th round 1989.
@mandarkhade251
4 жыл бұрын
What I liked most is, when the match was over both players (one all time winner & other rising champion) greeted and appreciated each other's game. Very sporty.
@Munkyjoe1
12 жыл бұрын
Steffi is amazing as a champion and in defeat! I love her no matter what! I miss her so much!
@zekenserena
8 жыл бұрын
Steffi won her last major a lil later in the year(The French) & Serena won her 1st(U.S. Open. #irony
@janjr165
8 жыл бұрын
The changing of the guard: 1999
@cartoon4191
8 жыл бұрын
Davenport , Venus & Capriati combine won 10 Grand Slams after Graf Retirement...Queen Serena start dominate starting from 2002
@willybeama1
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn’t realize that but you’re right!
@peterhammer6915
4 жыл бұрын
@Gowri Shankar U.V clearly the better player? Take your medicine pal. The most important thing in sports is the head.
@oliviaaybar4602
4 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin beat Monica Seles? Way, she was forced to retire after being stabbed by a crazy Graf fan. Monica Seles was a young gun, driving Graf to depression for her inability to beat her before the stabbing. Serena's game and Seles are very similar.
@thrshwll1526
8 жыл бұрын
SERENA was on fire. She's still playing amazing 17 years later. That's how she was playing this year when she won Wimbledon.
@DeepSeas..
8 жыл бұрын
She played significantly better than this at Wimbledon
@Arjetube
10 жыл бұрын
steffi graf was the best female tennis player of all time. period. even if serena breaks the record of 22 grand slams, she would never have that elegance which graf had and probably still has. serena williams has the power of a man, so she plays menstyle tennis, thats her only secret. thats the reason why she is still in place even with 32.
@QuadThreat85
9 жыл бұрын
***** You insist on telling me what I watched....I WATCHED THE GARBAGE 90'S....how many times do I have to say it? 95-on, I was there...saw enough to be unimpressed. You mean to tell me that Serena only plays her best against the best 10% of the time? Because for the point I am making, her losses to lower players is irrelevant. In maatches where Serena faced a slam champion, no.1, or player she has lost to before....she has shown up playing less than B+ in maybe 10% at most. Serena does not have to play absolute best to beat anyone! That's what you fail to realize. That alone puts her in the GOAT discussion. Graf would have to play at A+ and count on Serena always playing B- or below to beat her.
@Notifysender90
9 жыл бұрын
Sweetie who ever said tennis was about finesse? Tennis is a sport which means it's tough, now just because Serena was very strong and had a different winning style lets not mistake the fact that Serena's arsenal by far shits all over Grafs so you can try that again. All you have to do is watch Serena's last championship of the French open and you'd see how finessed she is talking about a style of technique. There's no rules in winning. Hell, Usain Bolt runs like a cheetah and Tyson Gay runs like a gazelle did it prove who had the better stride to win a race? No sir no ma'am
@QuadThreat85
9 жыл бұрын
GeorgeHenryThomas Keep crying...Graf is gone, and she's never coming back. And when Serena's gone, she will have removed Graf from her supposed throne (which I still think belongs to Navratilova).
@Paakid
9 жыл бұрын
Even Steffi herself and her husband say Serena is the greatest ever :)
@QuadThreat85
9 жыл бұрын
***** Agassi basicslly just said it. He said it's easy to argue Serena as GOAT even as her career stands today. He would also be delighted to see Serena pass his wife's record.
@louiscarrillo5873
6 жыл бұрын
Serena so great, i miss Stefi. these rallies and highlights were awesome watch....these gals had ALL the shots in their game. touch and power.
@MultiCoco1978
8 жыл бұрын
two of my favorite female tennis players of all time! what a game!!!!
@YeSaintRose
9 жыл бұрын
Lol that kiss at the net was Graf passing on the GOAT to Serena lol
@JordanjamesX
8 жыл бұрын
+Jonathan “The Artist Jw” Wimbush I think you are right Graf rarely kissed an opponent after losing she knew Serena was special even at age 17.
@stevennieves8308
7 жыл бұрын
Steffi Graf started kissing her opponents later as she got older & wiser. As Steffi got older, you could see she was more respectful towards her opponents & the game. Something Steffi wasn't when she was younger.
@Ineddiblehulk
6 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. Game recognises game. First time Graf would've ever genuinely thought this person may be better than me...
@tlovesgreens8244
6 жыл бұрын
that was funny as hell
@cormorant_on_arock7934
6 жыл бұрын
ignoramus, that was called grace and class, and it is what Graf and many other European players do every match. I'm sure you know that; but what you may not understand is the beautiful virtue required to have that kind of graciousness.
@seanridley443
11 жыл бұрын
Serena Williams and Steffi Graf are not just the two best female athletes in tennis history but women's sports period. This match was beautiful to watch in 1999 and even better now. The stoic, methodical grace of Steffi against the aggresive, emotional power of Serena....wish these two played one another in their prime, it would've been historic!
@danielgeorgetheoneandonly
3 жыл бұрын
And Serena wasn’t anywhere near her prime🤭
@carrerau7138
Жыл бұрын
Serena was closer to her peak then than Steffi Graf with her reconstructed knee.
@magnetmac1
Жыл бұрын
@@carrerau7138 You have worn-out the "reconstructive knee" excuse for Graf.
@milo63
8 жыл бұрын
Steffi did not win more Grand Slams just because of the Seles stabbing.She had pure greatness,one thing Seles never had.Still like Monica better,though
@TheCritic605
8 жыл бұрын
she did win more after monica was stabbed...before she was stabbed graf was 1-3 against seles in GS finals..when seles was stabbed in 93 (monica beat graf in the 93 AO final) graf when on to win the rest of the slams that year then another 8 after that...
@dennisjacks7923
7 жыл бұрын
1989 Graf 3-0, 1990 Seles 2-0, 1991 Graf 2-0, 1992 1-1, 1993 Seles 1-0. The rivalry was 6-4 for Graf at the time of the stabbing. 3 of Seles 4 wins were on clay. The 1993 win at Australia was hard court.
@bear-ms3ms
5 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjacks7923 Very smart kid, in 1989 monica was 15Y Super Mega Lol, for you and stefians brothers are very precious these victories H2H, when seles was 15Y, it's not true? How stef when she was 15Y??? And also: San Antonio it's equivalent to Australian Open? Hamburg it's equivalent to Roland Garros? You make me die laughing :-D :-D :-D
@ХУСРАВТВ-у3ю
7 жыл бұрын
Serena 23 slams,,,in January 2017 AOupen
@lizclegg7556
5 жыл бұрын
Steffi Graf may not be the GOAT, but she is certainly the most classy, civilised and ladylike tennis player to ever go on a court.
@eizyaws
5 жыл бұрын
Naw that's Kim Clijsters
@eizyaws
5 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin i guess
@shihlin1
6 жыл бұрын
20 years later Serena is STILL in tennis. Who would've thought? But my guess is her days in tennis may be numbered. Caring for her infant daughter and trying to win titles are just too much for someone approaching 40.
@patrickhumpfer3790
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe some players won more tournaments or GS, but the style of Steffi Graf never will be reached, she is not moaning, has great footwork and legs, single handed backhand and the best forehand ever. It is just nicer to watch her playing than Serena or Monica.
@neilmodino9284
9 жыл бұрын
first of all graf and williams are from,a different era. they are both good and i am proud of both.
@dalinaddei
6 жыл бұрын
Are you their Father? XD
@dianenorman3209
5 жыл бұрын
Either way it goes those are two good resumes.
@bear-ms3ms
5 жыл бұрын
@1 Garoto 2 Mundos And obiouvsly world record guiness of stabber fans, forever and ever. Proud and honour, it'not true?! :-D :-D :-D
@T9RX3
5 жыл бұрын
@samuel moore nope, The Golden Slam is done in ONE calendar year. Serena could not do what Graf did because Graf handled pressure better than Serena did. It is much more difficult to win it all in ONE calendar year. And Steffi Graf did it. Serena did not.
@T9RX3
5 жыл бұрын
@1 Garoto 2 Mundos well said. You are correct.
@jktoooo
10 жыл бұрын
LOTS of comments about Serena not in her prime yet. Well, Steffi was past HER prime and though would win 1more final slam, she wasn't as sharp as she was in 87-90 and 95-96. A match with BOTH in their prime would have been more spectacular than this one though this was pretty good.
@perfectchaos0078
10 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or was the ball hit by Graf at 2:59 well long? Thank goodness we have shot spot now, some of the calls made by line judges back then were worse than they are today.
@Lishmaa
6 жыл бұрын
Perfectchaos007 you could see it on serena face that it was way long
@tlovesgreens8244
6 жыл бұрын
I've seen that PLENTY OF TIMES THROUGHOUT SERENAS CAREER....OBVIOUSLY she was trained to ignore it and focus on winning the game. (MENTALly SUPERIORIty) SMH tho! ...but just another reason why SERENA WILLIAMS IS THE GOAT.
@markgrainge8198
6 жыл бұрын
It looks like Serena’s shot st 4.07 was as well. I think it “may” be the recording.
@brain8484
6 жыл бұрын
Perfectchaos007 yes it was clearly out
@stevennieves8308
6 жыл бұрын
Perfectchaos007 Yes, it was clearly out.
@Wow_sheng_yi_pian
7 жыл бұрын
Now Serena has 23 major titles
@Wow_sheng_yi_pian
7 жыл бұрын
It seems that it's so hard for Steffi to hit even a winner under Serena's fire, not to mention she was only 17 then. No wonder Serena can become the greatest tennis player in history! And anyway, Steffi needs to thank Seles' attacker!
@4horsemen990
5 жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite female tennis players of all time!😊
@jmnny85
5 жыл бұрын
Love how classy Steffi went in for the double Kiss of Serena!😊😍
@kddlrp
4 жыл бұрын
Illya Kuryakin lol. To you
@NetherVoiD
6 жыл бұрын
All these years what some fanatic americans considers the goat of tennis Serena is a CHEATING champ winning tournaments because of coach little divine intervention
@txmetalhead82xk
5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful match! So much excitement, and the graceful exit..just awesome! Graf will always be top class!
@777L777E777
8 жыл бұрын
Why can't people just enjoy watching the two best womans tennis players of all time? I don't get the negative comments.
@stevennieves8308
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Why can't some people? Because Serena Williams is a Black woman that's why. If Serena was White, all those people that keep saying Graf is better would easily say Serena Williams is better than Graf. Think about it.
@AaronVanRosand
11 жыл бұрын
Steffi has been world #1 a record 377 weeks (male or female), a record year-end #1 8 years (male or female), an open era record of 22 Grand Slams, the only player (male or female) to have won at least 4 times every single Grand Slam on three different surfaces (clay, grass, hard), won 107 titles (only behind Evert and Navratilova who both retired 8 years older), only player (male or female) to have won the Calendar Year Golden Slam, etc, etc, .... PEOPLE, WAKE THE F$CK UP AND SHOW SOME RESPECT!!
@mayrayment5917
5 жыл бұрын
That fire in Serena has always been there. The greatest.
@stevenmichael4990
10 жыл бұрын
The most important comment I can make 2 all of the Serena haters out there is even Graf, along with Chris & Martina have said Serena Williams is the Best female tennis player in History. Now, if Chris, Martina & Steffi have All said Serena is the Best then that's all I need 2 believe she is the Best. Steffi also said she believes Serena will tie & eventually pass her 22 majors record in the Open era. Those 3 legends should quiet all of the Serena haters but I'm sure Hate will keep their fire burning & good, cause as long as Serena keeps winning my fire 2 keep writing positive Serena comments will also continue.
@EXDRA100
9 жыл бұрын
Does the WTA routinely test Williams for steroids/etc?
@stevenmichael4990
9 жыл бұрын
***** Just for you & your Hateful soul, the next time I read or watch anything where Steffi Graf says what I wrote she said, I will save the link for you. Since you are a non-believer & everybody is "lying" cause your all time favorite girl, Steffi Graf, could possibly have said somebody except herself is the Best. What the Hell is wrong with you? Why is it SO IMPORTANT for you that Steffi Graf is the GOAT? Well, she is one of the Best, so you can rest your sick little head & sleep well. And I have no reason to lie, waste my time & post a made up comment. I think Steffi, Serena, Martina & Chris are all GOATs.
@aaron1983
6 жыл бұрын
Steven Michael Evert is the queen of tennis efficiency if GOAT was decided on pure efficiency of stats, Chris Evert would be GOAT.
@mannail888
6 жыл бұрын
Callas also said Domingo was the greatest ever.
@RageCage1701
6 жыл бұрын
The problem is Serena isn't a female. And as a man, she's an at-best mediocre player.
@sann5146
3 жыл бұрын
Serena is playing SO MUCH BETTER in this game than she has played in this last decade of 2010s into 2020s. So many more unforced errors these days compared to this match!? It's like she was at the top back in 1999.
@magnetmac1
Жыл бұрын
Serena was a top-10 player in 1999. As a matter of fact, she ended the year ranked no.4.
@chungls123
8 жыл бұрын
one of the greatest matches ever
@peterhammer6915
4 жыл бұрын
whaaattt? Steffi played very poorly in the third set and Serena also has played a lot better games
@tashakomaroff2982
3 жыл бұрын
Her screaming is ridiculous.
@mianaomipost9885
6 жыл бұрын
Serena was just a baby then! Awww I love watching these old videos! Historic moments!
@rockandstroll
7 жыл бұрын
It shows how great of a tennis player Graf was, the fact that she was in the latter part of her career and took the match that far to one of the big black Williams beasts is formidable,
@magnetmac1
6 жыл бұрын
Graf was 29 at the time. At that same age Serena was just getting started...lol! - now that's formidable!!!
@Largecanyondog
2 жыл бұрын
Stefi is an insane athlete.
@jaspalcheema1500
4 жыл бұрын
Passing of the baton moment. I wish graf had played a few more years. She won the 1999 French and reached Wimbledon final and was only 30. She could maybe have won a few more slams. Nevertheless she retired at the top with that French open victory over hingis. If Clijsters can come back at 36 I'm sure graf could have played until 32/33 at least
@Hammerton32
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Tennis would have been better for it. Graf could have developed her backhand, beyond just the slice, and given her speed, could have improved her net game.
@natividaddiaz1867
4 жыл бұрын
Para mi Steffi Graf, la mejor jugadora de todos los tiempos y en algo que no la podrán igualar jamás en que siempre se comportó como roda una dama.
@damianabel9405
2 жыл бұрын
Están muy igualadas, pero la mejor Serena le gana a la mejor Steffi Graf
@jmnny85
5 жыл бұрын
Realize something these two legends combined have 45 Grand Slam singles tiles.😮👏👍😊
@Ineddiblehulk
3 жыл бұрын
As a MASSIVE Graf fan I’m disappointed it’s not 46 or 47. Want Serena to wipe court from the record books.
@gerhyuga
11 жыл бұрын
Graf's Forehand...Just beautiful, like it
@daemonblackfyre8180
7 жыл бұрын
Graf had one of the best forehands I'd ever seen.
@andrewmark2783
5 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin Well I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but I think Ana Ivanovic had the best forehand ever. It's just a shame that it came with a player who had major confidence issues (which consequently led to a terrible serve and a weak, predictable backhand). But the technique on her forehand was as close to perfect as you'll ever see, it was Federer level of good.
@rushigolande2253
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Mark exactly
@trommelbiel
5 жыл бұрын
A great tennis player should be an allrounder. If all Serena had was a good forehand nobody would talk about her.
@vincenzodimartino7327
5 жыл бұрын
She had the best forehand ever
@trommelbiel
5 жыл бұрын
@@vincenzodimartino7327martino: The reason we still talk about Steffi is that a better player has emerged who happens to be black. And your white supremacist mentality would not accept the truth that Steffi's forehand or backhand (which she did not have) is no match for Serena's all-round talent. Slavery lasted 400 years in the US because of people like you. When was the last time you heard about how Good Pete Sampras' forehand or backhand' was? Because he has been dethroned by the likes of Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic and Rafel Nadal. Nobody talks about the youngest Wimbledon Gradslam Champion Boris Becker because his talents are no match for those of Roger, Nadal and Djokovic who happen to be whites. You are comparing a champion like Steffi who played against sleepy players like Conchita Martinez, Arancha Sanchez Vicario etc, against a player who has won 23 grand slams and has won Olympic medals and serves better than some male tennis players. You would not be making this comparison if Serena was any other race except black. Serena will not apologize for her God-given Melanin and I will not apologize for mine. But you should be ashamed for still being so racist and short-sighted in 2019. I will not be bleaching my skin any time soon and Serena will not be bleaching hers.
@adityabanerjee7145
4 жыл бұрын
Wow Serena was thin once... looks great
@christine0513
4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh...we were all smaller at one time
@steveh9769
Жыл бұрын
Steffi accomplished A LOT more in her 16 years of playing. Serena played for 27 years and has fewer overall titles and just one more grand slam. Stats don't lie so GOAT goes to Steffi!
@ivanu83
9 жыл бұрын
What a great match! Nice to see these two playing to each other!
@640A
9 жыл бұрын
To me this match has the same historical magnitude as the Federer vs. Sampras Wimbledon 2001 match. At the time when both matches where played Sampras and Graf where considered THE G.O.A.T. after the match was over the old generation lost to the new generation! And now 15 years later or so Federer and Serena are considered THE G.O.A.T.
@rayncar
5 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully said
@jonathanchen1026
5 жыл бұрын
In other words, Tsitsipas and Osaka are our future GOATs?
@Raydoffa
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanchen1026 Most likely, yes. But Serena and Roger are not done yet!
@JCole-fg3rr
5 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Chen no because Serena isn’t on a decline. Nor has Serena lost at her best.
@jonathanchen1026
5 жыл бұрын
@@JCole-fg3rr I mean you could say the same about Federer, only time will tell if those key matches were the changing of the guard
@johnfirth9791
5 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no comparison between serena and steffi. In 90s when it women’s tennis was full of tennis, Graf played 54 grand slams and won 22. Serena on the other hand played 73 and won only 23. Graf loss percentage is also much better in terms loosing matches in grand slams. Graf lost around 10.3% whilst serena lost 12.3%. Important thing is that there has hardly been any competition in women’s since 2003 except for henin and Clijsters who had brief careers
@webstege
8 жыл бұрын
Serena has 14 double grand slams as well
@dennisjacks7923
5 жыл бұрын
Big Deal....Billie Jean has 18, Margaret has 19 , Martina 31
@MrRazorblade999
5 жыл бұрын
@@dennisjacks7923 He was comparing with Graf
@T9RX3
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrRazorblade999 Graf has a better winning % than Serena. Plus Graf is the only player to win the calendar and Golden Slam. Serena can't touch that.
@T9RX3
5 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean anything in the singles GOAT discussion
@cormorant_on_arock7934
6 жыл бұрын
God! I *love* Graf's style!
@michaellee888
5 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting to see how the greats handle their tough matches at the twilight of their careers vs at their height of their careers. I can see how the greats' weaknesses affect their matches. I wished Graf would have developed a more all around game. That's one of the reasons why Seles' tragedy was awful for everyone. Graf would have developed a stronger game as well as Seles, if Seles did not leave the game for two years. What a difference two years make! Williams is one of the greatest if not the greatest singles player so far. She has the all around game as well as her athletic ability. Hingis' lack of athletic ability really held her back in her tough matches. I have a new found appreciation for Navratilova's game. Her improvements and longevity have made her the greatest singles/doubles/and mixed doubles female player. If Williams didn't have her injuries or didn't have that ridiculous rule of only playing with her sister, she could have won more and be more consistent in her wins. "Williams is also one of only two players in the Open Era to have won each major three or more times." Most consecutive wins in grand slams singles titles is 2; so far, has never won any grand slam singles title 3 times in a row. Graf being the other player, is the only player to win each major at least 4 times. Williams is the strongest singles player when playing well, while Graf is the greatest consistent singles player? I can't wait for Serena to break Margaret Court's record of 24 Grand Slam Singles victories. Serena's best chance might be Wimbeldon as the surface is softer, and is fast. Easier on the feet, yet fast to reward her for her big shots.
@88feji
5 жыл бұрын
I think Navratilova is undoubtedly the greatest female tennis player ever if you go beyond just counting grand slams ... Firstly, her career singles titles far outstrips Graf by 167 to 107 (Serena only has 70+). Secondly she accumulated 18 singles slams despite also participating in the doubles events, often winning both ... in contrast, Graf and Serena mostly concerntrate on their singes event to avoid exhaustion. ... imagine how many singles Navra could have won if she had conserved her energy on it .. Thirdly, Navra had a very strong rival in Chris Evert who also got 18 slams ... in contrast, Graf's main rival Seles was cut short due to Seles's stabbing.. and Serena did not have any big rival able to consistently challenge for grand slams like herself ... As for Margaret Court's 24 slams, she greatly benefited from competing in the non-open era for more than half of her slam count ... in the non-open era, she only had to compete with the non-professional players as the ones who play full time tennis are barred from competing ... so basically her 24 slams should not even be a target for Serena to beat ... In all, Martina is the true goat among them ...
@bhimsentkandulna3101
4 жыл бұрын
Three of them are the best.stefi ,s appearance, back hand,and service is very very winning point. Navratilova is intelligent player. Her drop short is winning point. Serena is innovative player. She is best known for her ace service .speed return, corner,base line,end line ,and net returns are amazing. Mostly she plays to wine. TyloreTownsend is also future best player. Anastasia,peko,are the best. Sofia kennin, Nomi, Muguruza,Halep,Andrucuss these are best player for ever.
@grantgoffin4774
4 жыл бұрын
@@88feji No way is Martina the GOAT. Martina is in fact overrated if anything, and despite her being overrated almost nobody calls her the GOAT these days, with most picking Serena or Graf (probably more Serena at this point). People say all 4 slams werent fully valued then and that is why she has fewer slams, but in reality she is lucky for that since if all 4 slams were fully valued Evert would have about 24 slams and Navratilova only about 19, and Martina wouldn't even be seen as best in her own era anymore. Also if you take away Evert, Martina still has only 21 or 22 slams and now she has the biggest joke field in tennis history as the field in 82-87 outside of Evert being there was the biggest joke ever. Who would her biggest rival be now all those years she was winning almost all her slams- Shriver, LOL!!! And people make fun of Graf for having Sanchez as her biggest rival for a few years. So Martina is fucking lucky both that Evert was there, and also that all 4 slams weren't fully valued back then. Again Evert is the one really hurt by this, not Martina, yet overrated Martina is the one always given credit for it not underrated Chris. Without Martina, Chris has something like 28 slams, she was hurt far more by Martina than Martina by Chris. Her records at 3 of the 4 slams are significantly below all other major greats, only at Wimbledon is she ahead. And all players back then when won more tournaments so nobody cares about that. Every all time great, man or women back then, won over 150 tournaments. Even a non great like Wade won 105 singles tournaments. There were many tournaments with 2 or 3 rounds back then. Court has the most singles tournaments at 199, many more than Martina's 167 by the way. Lastly your saying Serena only concentrates on singles is pretty much a bullshit statement considering she has around 20 doubles/mixed doubles slams. Yes she plays less doubles than Martina, Court, and King, but considering doubles is seen as trivial these days she deserves credit for playing it and winning in it as much as she does. I guarantee you Martina would not be playing even half as much doubles if she were in her prime today instead of then either, although you are obviously a biased Martina fanboy so no doubt will deny that, but nearly everyone else would agree with me when they think about it. And Serena would probably play even more doubles and win even more at doubles if she didn't have the silly personal rule to only play with her sister as she feels it would be betraying her sister to play with someone else. She wouldn't even play doubles with her bff Wozniacki for that reason. Your assessment on Court is also off. The reason Court's slam record is degraded and most don't call her GOAT has nothing to do with the Open Era, it has to do with the Australian Open situation then. It was not well attended or viewed as a real slam and 11 of her 24 slams came there. There was no real womens pro tour so the best players were always in amateur, unlike the mens.
@arinmajumder5218
3 жыл бұрын
@@grantgoffin4774 U simply do not know anything about Tennis which is very much obvious from ur analysis. Are u a Martina hater or a homophobe?? First, answer this. Martina Navratilova is d greatest singles, doubles & mixed doubles player who has ever lived. She won 18 slams & an astounding 31 doubles & 10 mixed doubles slams & also 167 WTA tournaments ( highest by any one in d open era) . Her records speak for herself. No need of Ur biased, untrue & false narrative. Navratilova & Evert formed d greatest rivalry in d history of Womens' Tennis & everyone acknowledges it. Had Evert not been there she could have ended up with more than 24 slams. She had an astounding 59 slams altogether , 2nd only to Margaret Court ( 62 ). She had won a record 9 Wimbledon titles ( Wimbledon is known as d most prestigious among all Grand Slam Tournaments). Steffi Graf is perhaps d greatest Singles player but absence of Monica Seles who was her greatest rival made it a bit doubtful. So, Serena Williams is d best Singles player of all time but her main rival was her elder sister which also made it a bit clumsy as people say their father actually decides who would win. Nevertheless, she is a great champion. May be d GOAT ( singles). So, it is either Steffi or Serena at No1 or 2 of all time. But it is in singles . If u consider singles, doubles & mixed doubles altogether, Martina Navratilova is undoubtedly d greatest ever. Even d legendary Billi Jean King also stated d same. There is no denying of dat.Margaret Court does not come in d picture because she doesn't not fall completely in d open era, mainly in non-professional ( amateur) era. Chris Evert is d 4th greatest of all time. So, it has to be 1) Serena Williams 2) Steffi Graf 3) Martina Navratilova 4) Chris Evert. But, considering d all formats of Tennis i.e Singles, doubles & Mixed doubles it has to be only Martina Navratilova.
@grantgoffin4774
3 жыл бұрын
@@arinmajumder5218 Awww John David, yet another new username. How many are up to now, 200. You are trying to break that freak O 285's record for the most. And you are trying to prove Navratilova fanboys are even worse than Selestials, which I never thought possible. And still using the tired line "anyone who does not consider Navratilova the GOAT is a homophobe." Yawn, that alone proves that you don't think Navratilova is the GOAT yourself, otherwise you would not resort to such a lame cop out. By your logic one could say anyone who thinks Serena isn't the GOAT is racist. I guess by your logic 99% of people must be homophobes since 99% of people think the GOAT is either Serena or Graf at this point, or someone other than Navratilova. Lastly if what you care about is most doubles, mixed, and singles titles combined Court is the GOAT. She has more singles titles than Navratilova, more singles slams than everyone, more combined singles/doubles/mixed slams than Martina despite that she retired at 33 and Martina at 55, she played 22 years longer and still couldn't catch her. So if that is what we are judging Court = GOAT, your hero Martina still loses. Good day, looking forward to seeing what your 201st username you make to agree with yourself is John David.
@candyblack2233
7 жыл бұрын
GOAT is Graf no contest, 2nd Navratilova 3rd Evert all have over 100 tournament wins Williams is no where near Grand slam Graf has, Williams dosent have , no contest.
@RaphaelBas1995
7 жыл бұрын
I know you have preferences, but Serena currently has 23 Grand Slam titles to Graf's 22, so your statement is factually incorrect.
@pueraeternus111
8 жыл бұрын
such a great match between two champions! you could really tell Serena respected Steffi, and that this match was meaningful to her. no wonder Serena has stated numerous times that Steffi was her favorite player of all time.
@keishawnlight
8 жыл бұрын
Besides Venus :)
@diegosotomiranda4107
4 жыл бұрын
@christian Williams tbh that happened with Novak Djokovic too, since he got into the scene fighting the Federer/Nadal donimance, thera has been a bias against him conpared to fedal, even Murray with wayy less archievements was more phraised than him for one period
@peterb6512
3 жыл бұрын
You are delusional. There is so many videos on KZitem of Serena talking about who was her idol and she never mentioned Graf.
@VegetoExp626
7 жыл бұрын
I never thought Graf could be this great. She comes from the previous era where power tennis hasn't evolved. But an experienced, full-of-techniques, and moving-so-well Graf can put up a good fight against a powerful, little-technique, inexperienced, raw-talent-with-instinct, Serena. Imagine Graf in today era, she would be right in the top 5 for sure.
@myfriend280
5 жыл бұрын
takhilah1 Are you in the 5th grade ?
@stevyyjay85
6 жыл бұрын
Steffi Graf won her first title on the WTA tour in 1986. So 13 years before this finale in 1999. She had just returned to the tour in April 1998 after 10 months of not playing due to knee surgery (1997). Graf in 1999 was far from her peak form. I believe she was #7 in the world before the tournament of Indian Wells started. I want to remind everyone that Steffi wasn't ranked anymore when she returned to tennis in spring 1998. However, 1999 was a great year for Steffi. She was the most consistent GS tournament player: QF at the AO, she won the French Open and reached the final in Wimbledon. I am 100% certain that she could have reached the semis at the USO and would have taken over world #1 from Hingis or Davenport at that point. She was so close.
@amitchopra4828
3 жыл бұрын
Steffi and Andre aggasi nice couple
@hey_you1377
5 жыл бұрын
Too bad she isn't able to be a good sport when she loses and becomes an intimatdating bully..
@codesterz7
8 жыл бұрын
The top two women to ever play the game. I would have loved to see Serena take on Steffi while both were on the peak of their careers. That would be an unbelievable match to behold.
@janjr165
8 жыл бұрын
This was that match. :)
@r.locksmith9610
8 жыл бұрын
Two greatest player of all time. No doubt. No one will surpass them.
@maksessultz2871
8 жыл бұрын
Serenas game is far much better than Steff when both is at their prime. Serena`s serves improve so much over the years and that alone would be enough for Serena to beat Steffi 6 nil 6 one very often.
@stevennieves8308
7 жыл бұрын
Nicklas4500 I kinda agree with you. Navratilova, winning a ton of titles in singles & doubles, was my original 1st pick as the best all around women's tennis player & since she had a 9 to 9 head to head record vs Steffi Graf, who is almost 13 yrs younger than her kinda says it all about Martina Navratilova, who really should be considered the GOAT of women's tennis. But that was before I saw Serena Williams. Now I don't think Martina Navratilova or Steffi Graf would have been able to consistently beat a healthy & fit Serena Williams but I do think Navratilova & Graf would have competed well vs Serena Williams. Overall after say 10-20 matches vs Serena Williams, I think Martina Navratilova & Steffi Graf would have won at least a third or maybe even close to half of their matches vs Serena. But in the end, with Serena's overall game, strength, athleticism & her great serve, I think a healthy/fit Serena Williams would've come out on top of both of her head to head matches vs Martina Navratilova & Steffi Graf, who I also consider to be 2 of the GOATs of women's tennis along with Serena Williams, Chris Evert & Margaret Court. But, of course, that's just my opinion.
@bear-ms3ms
5 жыл бұрын
@Illya Kuryakin Great? Why great? She never played winners with backhand, hardly ever with volley and service. Why insulting? venus plays winners with forehand, backhand and service. Do you have television or internet in your country?
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