Arts supports and Arts loopers were the two archetypes we really, really didn't need more of and she's somehow both 💀
@gee_kaz
Жыл бұрын
Tbf like she’s the first proper crit arts support since LA crit damage buff only last for 1 turn. But yeah a new arts support and aoe is the least thing we need in this game, but Lasengle gonna Lasengle
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Жыл бұрын
@@gee_kaz I remember when lady avalon was released I said that she is a massive disappointment in my opinion because arts doesn't need another support and I didn't like how devs just did Merlin's recolour. and someone said to me that I don't understand anything, she is the first arts crit support, arts heavily needed this. I asked what are caster Gilgamesh, Lanling and Mozart then and received answer "but they aren't SSR". and now people say exactly the same shit about joan. man arts is so greedy and spoiled
@kamenlobster
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w buster has better stuff tho
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Жыл бұрын
@@kamenlobster buster has a lot of units, but in terms of supports and budget supports arts is far ahead. watch devs releasing summer morgan that will be basically arts oberon because "arts didn't have their own oberon" 💀
@Cliffy1616
Жыл бұрын
@Gee. But does arts really need crit support though? Like there are 4* options that help with that. And it’s ARTS why do they need to crit? Quick already needs far more help yet instead they just give arts another tool that it didn’t really need or deserve.
@NulkyEX
Жыл бұрын
I think we can just call the game Fate/Arts Order by this point
@lookingcooljoker7635
Жыл бұрын
Wish she had more of a Himiko-like NP, but it could be fun to pair her with Muramasa or Kagetora who I use pretty often. But yea, not super necessary.
@Jasons_Argo
Жыл бұрын
3:40 Hey Myst. Never apologize for how you say “deck”. I love it, and remember every servant in this game from waifus to husbandos has a “deck”. Musashi can pound you with her big gorilla deck. Playing with Astolfo’s quick deck will be the best 30 seconds of your life. Jinako has a voluptuous arts deck that can only be appreciated by true gamers of culture. You even have Artoria who (true to lore) can gain a deck in the middle of a fight. The point is EVERYONE loves a good “deck” and in FGO there is a servant who has a deck that is perfect for you.
@friedmosquitos4166
Жыл бұрын
True, everyone has a deck, but we can agree that gorilla decks are just the best.
@Jasons_Argo
Жыл бұрын
@@friedmosquitos4166 I myself prefer an arts/quick deck with a non damaging arts NP that terrorizes everyone, boosts crit damage, and gives me stars for my deck to play with the next turn.
@uzzi3822
Жыл бұрын
One thing maybe to note with her is that you do get guaranteed double Castoria NP (Castoria S1x2 + her S3 procs twice charges both Castorias) with her on turn 3 so there is potential for extra NP damage, but (roughly guessing from the numbers) it wouldn't be enough to catch Iyo still. Not at NP1 anyway.
@HerMi.T
Жыл бұрын
she also has a very great usage with tezca. if you have both, you can use any servant to loop all three turn without really needing a support and eeal damage. she also has ways to generate nps for lot of servant in interestingways like caren for example.
@chadachi3970
Жыл бұрын
If you're using Castoria np in farming you're either using a really shit looper or doing the 90+++ nodes where that is sometimes required, but in most farming content you should never need it. Joan at np5 can't even match Iyo .-. Iyo np5 DCS lvl100 BG - 187808 Joan np5 DCS lvl100 BG - 170009
@lhv2k
Жыл бұрын
13:22 Actually even at NP5 her damage is still LOWER than Iyo, let alone NP2. At NP5 she would do only 216k on W3 damage, and only 173k at NP2, so nowhere near Iyo, you'd need both NP5 + Grails.
@AKei1412
Жыл бұрын
iyo supremacy
@farizahmad3036
Жыл бұрын
Even when she hit her niche?
@chadachi3970
Жыл бұрын
@@farizahmad3036 In her niche she out damages but that's a given as bonus trait/powermods are crazy strong. However if you compared just Anti-Man or Anti-Evil vs Anti-Divine, Evil does less damage while Man does 20k more, which is hardly anything. Obviously their niches almost never line up, so you wouldn't field Iyo vs Man if you have Joan and you wouldn't field Joan vs Divine if you have Iyo. One thing I will say though, if you have Space Ishtar at Np5 then even vs Man she will outclass Joan in damage with the same team. DCS, lvl100 BG, Np5 >Iyo Anti-Evil - 232524 >Joan Anti-Evil - 217234 >Joan Anti-Man - 255013 >Space Ishtar - 278063
@farizahmad3036
Жыл бұрын
@@chadachi3970 well, avenger had a higher damage mod compare ruler to begin with, combine it with her stackable NP up and her high atk stat, she could out-damage both of them. Tho i only have NP1 spishtar so i might just aswell stick with my usual farming team (arc for buster, ranmaru for art, and sen no rikyu for quick)
@gusbart5856
8 ай бұрын
Avenger have the Same Attack modifier as rulers @@farizahmad3036
@thelegendmusashi9479
Жыл бұрын
the moment i saw the aoe np she instantly died to me. what is going on at lasagne? surely there must be some kinda reason behind all these aoe fucks
@ivanbluecool
Жыл бұрын
Fgo to arts:my sweet lovable baby. I'll give you everything you want and need. Chu chu chu. Fgo to buster:best I can do is kuku. Fgo to quick: it's skadi again
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Жыл бұрын
Skadi's back hurts because of carrying "fgo best (and only) quick support" and "fgo best girl" titles
@ivanbluecool
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w haven't seen her in the top popularity polls or 120 lists so her back must feel better by now
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Жыл бұрын
@@ivanbluecool best girl ≠ most popular girl
@ivanbluecool
Жыл бұрын
@@user-mg4rc1qw6w so your opinion basically. Not a fact.
@user-mg4rc1qw6w
Жыл бұрын
@@ivanbluecool that's fact. it was revealed to me in a dream
@shikiyama
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your opinion of the Strawberry/Blueberry Lock-On Chocolate buffs for the JP event? They have some insane buffs that make a lot more farming comps viable for the event
@MystFGO
Жыл бұрын
I think it's great that they are enabling more options to make hard farming content viable
@shikiyama
Жыл бұрын
@@MystFGO The fact a servant can start out with 300% overcharge if NP5 is very nice
@aero6104
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna roll for her, she seems really cute and wholesome
@Harbinger359
Жыл бұрын
Another day, another AoE looper. Another Arts Servant. Another Support designed to help Arts do literally everything in the game. Yay.
@ShiraFuyu2022
Жыл бұрын
You know if she has a Supportive NP, maybe it wouldn't be so bad for her. As of things are right now, she's more of a Aggressive Proto Merlin and of course if Iyo didn't shaft James' job enough as it is, so is she
@sibsart2039
Жыл бұрын
If you wanna go for a tanky team, using her with Lady Avalon would be a really hard team to kill.
@karma3351
Жыл бұрын
Can you maybe show the NP from now on in your First Impression videos? Other than that these videos are really helpful
@pingufan1239
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I am very upset that she is an AOE arts, however she is the only proper arts crit support 5 star we have. I do like that all of her skills are supportive
@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU
Жыл бұрын
She may not be the strongest or the most busted but she's hella cute and I will roll for her just based on that
@TheRobag
Жыл бұрын
Myst uses ascension 1 because it shows a bit of feet. I use ascension 1 because it has big chonky owl. We are not the same.
@astridparungao4971
Жыл бұрын
Her cooldowns and low attack stat are the biggest issues.
@daxterscool
Жыл бұрын
ST on life support. Maybe next year.
@cherlynfrania2161
Жыл бұрын
As someone who is still using hans frequently, she's going to synchronize well in my party. NP charge and crit dmg aside, her damage cut will help to stall more. It's unfortunate for everyone hoping her to have support NP, but having a buff block with good np gen is actually good.
@alexstar9871
Жыл бұрын
Double Castoria+Yagyu+Johanna seems really fun ngl
@TheNightofWalpurgis666
Жыл бұрын
She's a buffer for the old Arts core aka the triple Arts deck..who ironically has scuffed NP gain on their Arts deck. She fits right there. Funny enough, you can make Tamamo Caster DPS who can roughly do 100k crits on an Arts card on assassins/zerker with double Johanna, and Tamamo can NP back to back with under double Johana which helps reduce CD for Johanna.
@jomar4093
Жыл бұрын
2:07 pretty sure God put you on a list for that
@BlueFlameKirin
Жыл бұрын
myst was sold at the wink, i know lol
@VioletEyesOfHeaven
Жыл бұрын
She’s perfect for Ruler Mori.
@armihnfruity4788
Жыл бұрын
I hope her strengthening quest take a cool down for her skill like what they did on kiara
@winter3666
Жыл бұрын
Ngl i see her as arts equivalent to arts summer skadi minus the 50 np batteries. There's not a lot of support that give 3t 100% crit dmg(i can think 3 including pope johanna but one of them tied to specific type)
@frostshard8825
Жыл бұрын
Old man Li buff let's go
@lielikevortigern113
Жыл бұрын
Qsh support? Maybe I'll roll for her just for that.
@iamthestormthatisapproaching69
Жыл бұрын
For waifu, yes. For gameplay, no. I mean if you happen to not have any of the vast numbers of arts loopers, sure
@ameshunter
Жыл бұрын
I see Hedwig, I roll.
@clionelascendant8305
Жыл бұрын
Vale la pena usarla como supp?
@devilix123987
Жыл бұрын
I just watched this vid and saw the Lady Avalon CE and went ooo me want, I put 5 singles in and got Johanna on the 5th 💀💀 Also what does the Lady Avalon CE do? I can't find the details for it anywhere rn.
@danielsheehan5504
Жыл бұрын
Good grief. Double down for 40% regen 40% attack, and 40% arts as a support, and it's loop city.
@digitalnative5678
Жыл бұрын
For me, while I think that she does undoubtedly have farming potential and the like, I feel her NP is a support NP in elaborate disguises. That Buff Block 1 time, 3 turns if it gets spammed could help tons in preventing CQ enemies and bosses from getting a good number of their buffs. That by itself I think is the crux (heh) of her NP and the rest is to make it feel not as "niche." Hairbrained theory but just came to mind.
@farizahmad3036
Жыл бұрын
Johanna design: close and pure Martha design: ......
@christianvannucci6455
Жыл бұрын
Her looping resembles Lolivinci with her giving enough battery to let Castoria NP regardless. You underestimate the fact she's gonna benefit from two attack boosts from Castoria, which is probably why her attack boost is so low, it accounts for Castoria. A shame for the cooldowns, but her looping seems very stable
@sobokgaming8476
Жыл бұрын
They just keep making the same 3 units, bt then reskin them with different aesthetics. Quick AOE looper with some challenge synergy, Arts aoe looper with crit synergy or a defensive skill, and buster aoe boss killer. Rinse and repeat. The closest thing we’ve had to an interesting gimmick in a while is Kuku’s passive.
@mrkag2145
Жыл бұрын
damn I rolled for Jean on friday and got nothing but the next day 1 do a single on caren banner and she drop the girl like me way too much she is np3 already and i only wanted np2 for her...
@dstreetz91
Жыл бұрын
Other people: I hate arts, arts get everything. Myself: She has a nice cute owl. Not worth rolling for as a gssr2play on JP.
@ghostering8
Жыл бұрын
if you don't know what to do just waiting for Johanna 👙 👍
@kr555wizard
Жыл бұрын
If only her np supported the party in some way then i'd think she'd be perfect.
@BaileyZKerr
Жыл бұрын
13:36 even at NP5 she wouldn't beat Iyo, still like 1 or 2k lower. She'd need NP5 plus some grails. Double Castoria NP on the 3rd wave would change that though
@lhv2k
Жыл бұрын
Not 1 or 2k, more like 16k, at NP5 her w3 damage is still only 216k
@bernardoduarte5881
Жыл бұрын
NO LEWD FOR THE (this) HOLY WOMEN
@Misconcepcion
Жыл бұрын
I've been a free to play player since launch and with the arcade collab coming up this is an easy skip for me, though her design is cool. I need those precious quarts for Tiamat (i must will it into existence).
@ChrisMorray
Жыл бұрын
Kukulkan be like: All my Invulns become super-invulns, also I have a permanent fragment of 2030 as a passive. Also all my skills get even better if you spend crit stars. ALSO 3% NP charge per turn just cuz. One passive btw. Johanna be like: Territory and Magic resistance lel.
@lu70lo
Жыл бұрын
Arts isn't the weakest card for critting anymore. That was only the case because of the lack of supports. Quick has worse card multipliers AND worse crit supports now. Star generation is far from a problem with 2030, Johanna and Purin.
@thewhyzer
Жыл бұрын
So over 200% damage against Evil Mantypes, right?
@elaine4286
Жыл бұрын
She's so cuteee
@tragicclown5243
Жыл бұрын
Think about it we already have pretender aoe arts and alter ego aoe arts, I see no point of getting a neutral aoe arts looper at this point
@buddypaulgoat19324
Жыл бұрын
It's sad that she's aoe. "How many times do we need teach you this lesson old man"
@ryuunotessaiga
Жыл бұрын
If I get her, o would user her with Tammy and saberlot or hokusai
@streliza8627
Жыл бұрын
Oh gatcha gods show me the waifu way of holiness
@WolfBetter
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to star JP after I'm done with NA content
@emperormaxwell432
Жыл бұрын
I could care less about what she does, she is cute and thats all I need to roll for her.
@SpaceAndyx
Жыл бұрын
She should have had a support NP :l
@TheStuffEnjoyer
Жыл бұрын
Johanna is gonna help Arts Berseker such as Musashi and Vlad to crit hard and she can be swapped our via MC or Gong
@browncaramelboba8408
Жыл бұрын
What I think is that history gonna repeat itself. Right now, art become less relevant like buster in the old days, may be in the upcoming banner they might bring up new art support for white damage like the case with Morgan
@sezzomon6625
Жыл бұрын
How did we get 3 AoE arts rulers over the last 12 months? She seems alright, but her downtime is tremendously long for what she provides compared to other options. Definitely easy to work with, but kinda lackluster when looking at her competitors.
@altri2254
Жыл бұрын
From the start of 2023 until now, we got 5 SSR servant 4 of 5 IS FUXKING AOE ARTS. And from 6 total new servant, all of them is AOE what was lasengle thinking??? give us a ST unit please
@sezzomon6625
Жыл бұрын
@@altri2254 last st was from the last collab lol
@altri2254
Жыл бұрын
@@sezzomon6625 yep thats is sad man.... And counting ST sr too, last one we got is huang feihu like 6-7month ago?? T_T
@sezzomon6625
Жыл бұрын
@@altri2254 Yeah it's sad. I was really hoping that Kirei is ST for example and not competing with 28 other loopers and Kiara especially.
@miraich.4604
Жыл бұрын
Another AOE arts, color me shocked.
@SpaceAndyx
Жыл бұрын
CAREN DOES +2M?
@altri2254
Жыл бұрын
Its 200k
@dkz5726
Жыл бұрын
She is too strong for me. I she somehow in her skill 1.May be she also is another solo servant🤣
@TheyCallMeDio
Жыл бұрын
Desu Vult
@frostkie8002
Жыл бұрын
Shes niche but not needed another arts looper hybrid support
@KING-ll2mz
Жыл бұрын
I don’t like that she’s an aoe, but arts crit support is very nice
@dkz5726
Жыл бұрын
If me I will skip her🤣
@Shokamoka
Жыл бұрын
Easy skip, my brothers.
@CB-kf9up
Жыл бұрын
So vanilla, both her set and her design. I'll skip aoes out of spite at this point until we get a proper ST
@kagero-107
Жыл бұрын
Her np is so bad, it’s funny😂
@MystFGO
Жыл бұрын
Effects wise it's actually really good, but her damage numbers aren't all that amazing.
@kagero-107
Жыл бұрын
@@MystFGO yes, the effect is certainly delicious just like her 1st ascension’s legs *licks* But it would be better for other servants instead of a low base ATK SSR, don’t you think so? I appreciated the reply
@BirthdayFreak67
Жыл бұрын
Literally the worst DPS Ruler. Being out damaged by Young Moriarty and even the wet noodle Blonde Bunny (without niche). Shes even out damaged by Iyo. And she was for free lol. This is a pure support unit. Any arguments classifying her as anything other than a light flex unit is big Cope.
@altri2254
Жыл бұрын
Same shit as koyan light.USE them only for support
@BirthdayFreak67
Жыл бұрын
@@altri2254 not the same shit. Koyan's kit was revolutionary. Johanna is just an art crit support thats a little better than Proto Merlin but not by much (literally only 2 turns more better)
@chadachi3970
Жыл бұрын
@@altri2254 While this is "true" it's also not even remotely the same, Koyan Light actually does do good damage and can buster farm, she just enables other servants to do it better and her kit is what enables buster farming to be a thing. Koyan vs man-attribute Riders completely shits on them in a VVOV comp and has no real other competition in Buster AoE Assassin in general, while Pope Joan is outclassed by Iyo vs non-man and Iyo vs Divine is very close behind Joan vs man.
@altri2254
Жыл бұрын
@@chadachi3970 if you use iyo vs johanna as a comparison, it means i can also use gray vs vitch as a comparison. Both of them got outclassed by welfare. "No real other competition in buster aoe assasins"? Yes no one can reach VVOR comp dmg except gray, semiramis come close. Same as Ruler aoe arts. Johanna deal more dmg than moriarty in turn 1 & 2. Turn 3 moriarty deals 3k more dmg than johanna. So its same no other competition. See my point here? If servant has better support capability better use them as support dont slander them because they sucks at 1 point. Anyway.... Why use johanna/iyo if we have caren/S.skadi or gray/vitch when we have huanzhuo/S.valk am i right XD Source for dmg calc you can see it on myst's farming docs
@chadachi3970
Жыл бұрын
@@altri2254 DV in DVVO is for Dark Koyan, don't know how she's abbreviated otherwise. SScope + New Plug >VVO Gray turn 3- 233912 >DVVO Np1 Koyan turn 3 - 183310 >DVVO Np2 Koyan turn 3 - 244413 >DVVO Np5 Koyan turn 3 - 305516 Yes Gray can nearly match np2 Koyan, but she is nowhere close to np5 Koyan. You cannot say the same thing about Joan because Joan is out damaged at np5 by Iyo, meaning that the comparison of Joan and Koyan as "dps" are vast, as Koyan is actually competent. As supports, Joan is also nowhere near Koyan, Koyan blows her out of the water. Honestly the comparison of Joan to Koyan is just really bad, Koyan is superior to Joan in every role except defensive utility. The only reason for a comparison between them at all is because of the similar crit skill, but otherwise, nah.
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