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@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
Of those three, I choose the *Canik SFx Rival Darkside.* Very nice detailed comparison between the 3 brands.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Those caniks are sweet shooters and tough to beat!
@v.german11b
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel If only the other competition gun manufacturers would reduce their over inflated prices.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t that be nice…. Well hold your breath, there’s a new option coming to the market this month and it is awesome
@fang4524
Жыл бұрын
I have the Canik Combat. Has the same trigger as the rival. Best on the market. The feel is amazing.
@LazyGunGuy
Жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to the Rival-S steel frame, should tame the recoil like the legion.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Those will be nice no doubt!
@geebeaux
Жыл бұрын
What "surprised" me?
@alexanderguy307
Жыл бұрын
Mine shoots super flat
@gerstenpower7398
Жыл бұрын
Just picked mine up, dark side version, looking forward to testing it out before my IDPA match.
@RedEyePergo
Жыл бұрын
Still wont shoot as soft as my compensated Canik Mete SF .
@hometed8733
Жыл бұрын
The magwell issue on the Legion is by design for a specific type of competition requirement. So that is intentional. The 22-round extended P320 mags fit fine. I just wish they had a beautiful extended mag in the billet aluminum with the Legion logo. Those flush mags are quite nice and are very slick. Thanks for the review!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are and understandable! Love those big stick mags they have!
@snipervision1
Жыл бұрын
Swap to canik sfx rival s, and you have the winner. Swap to the red dot for $100 more and you have a game changer! I’m not a Glock guy but only because when I have shot one in competition it had the crappy stock one. P.S. I shoot the original Tp9sfx with a pull weight of 2.5lbs with viper and love it. Buddy shoots the shadow2 and was leaning that way for next purchase until I saw the rival s. Great video sir!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@hestongraves3274
Жыл бұрын
The legion is such a great gun to shoot. Feels and looks like a proper weapon.
@MaRcuS-ht7lk
Жыл бұрын
All 3 pistols are great. I’ve owned Canik for the past 4 years. I’m glad they’re getting their recognition. A very slept on gun You really do get a lot of quality for the money the trigger is great. I love everything about it. they are taking the market by storm.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are! Great guns no doubt!
@deanmiller6177
11 ай бұрын
The new Mete is having a lot of issues though.I have a Rival and a TP9 SFX and love them.changeg the trigger out on the TP9 to a flat face.I still hwve to go with Shadow Systems though overall
@Blakehenry11
Жыл бұрын
Not a big fan of the Sig P320 series of pistols. Canik is awesome however my choice is the Shadow systems. Great review.
@bbcoachSupermanBR
Жыл бұрын
I have about 10,000 rounds through my X5 and never had an issue with range drills and the mags. I did, however, get myself 5 extended round mags. The Canik (and Caniks in general) are an amazing value. Wouldve liked a CZ P10 F in here too
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Ultimately we would have the P10F Comp and VP9L but had difficulty finding them. Goes to show you, there are tons of great options!
@bhief473
Жыл бұрын
After 10,000 rounds did you find anything that needed replaced? Mag springs, guide rod springs?
@2aTommy
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this would turn out if these were the newest versions of these guns(320 legion with the integrated comp, the new rival steel frame, and the DR920l). The Rival S is much heavier in the frame so I think that would help soak up a lot of the recoil/muzzle flip. The dark side rival has a plate with a built-in back up iron sight for shield footprint micro dots that doesn’t come with the grey/gold. Personally I haven’t ever had a problem with Canik’s plates, they’re metal, and seem durable to me, but they could be thinner. At least they aren’t like Walther, CZ, and others who sell the gun as “optics ready”, then make you special order a plate and sometimes even charge extra for it 🤦♂️ lol. Great video 👍
@huntgar
Жыл бұрын
Might be a while before that video but worth the wait to me👍
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The rival S came out about a week after we filmed this video. No doubt it will be a great gun!
@DavidBrown-wo9ip
Жыл бұрын
I love that I just saw the Shadow Systems video about the DR920L from Shot Show less than an hour ago. NICE!😎✌️
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
So did we! Made us happy to help them launch it!
@stevenjackson466
11 ай бұрын
Great video. Been eyeing the Canik TP9SFX, I think it’ll be my next pistol. This was really helpful.
@HuntFishShootChannel
11 ай бұрын
That would be a great choice!
@EricSmith-mn4tz
Жыл бұрын
I have the Canik and the Legion (along with a W. Q5 Match) and they all are great guns, the Q5 has to been in this conversation as well.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The Q5 doesn’t have to be but they are also hard to come by. Great guns though!
@optimusvader7823
Жыл бұрын
It was a great Review 😎. One thing i am disagreeing: the plates on The CANIK Rival are well made of Aluminum and includes 5 for all types of Red Dots. Normally optic’s plates can cost aroun $40+ . I hope you have a chance to try The CANIK SFX RIVAL- S.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
We will most definitely be doing a Canik Rival S when we get our hands on one! Maybe I should clarify, the plates themselves aren’t bad and there are multiple options including, but I don’t like the deletion of the rear sight and they are thick raising the optic height. I would prefer to retain the rear sight and have that optic sit in the slide lower for cowitness. It’s possible with this trigger/striker design as Walther accomplished it with the PDP. It’s still easily the best pistol for the money, in my opinion 💪. Thanks for watching!!!
@hoosiered471
20 күн бұрын
Great review and comparison!!!! Thanks!!!
@HuntFishShootChannel
20 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@dvcmaster
Жыл бұрын
I never had any issues with the PMags until recently. I have a DR920 Elite and an MR920L. The DR is 100% with Glock mags, but I have had some issues with the PMags. After break in the PMag performance did improve but still not 100%. I have occasional FTFs with the PMags. On the other hand, the MR920L has been 100% with both. PMags are range only for me in pistols.
@seanvine39
Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a pmag with well over 5,000 rounds. Never been cleaned. I’m punishing the hell out of this thing trying to get it to fail. Just keeps running like a champ. I only use pmags in my SS guns, I’ve never had any issues. 5 SS guns total.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@JaronActual
Жыл бұрын
Having a Rival and X5, the X5 does indeed shoot softer, especially if you swap the recoil spring to match your ammo. That said, the value of the Rival is a force to be reckoned with. For me, the biggest downside of the Rival is only coming with two mags. Being $300-$400 cheaper than the Legion leaves you with a lot of money for extra mags, add-ons, optics, belt system, etc.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It really does. We are gonna try and get our hands on the Rival S asap!
@juniorlewalski4393
Жыл бұрын
I had a dead trigger on my new rival polymer frame and it was brand new and well lubricated. I regret getting it because I'm the back of my mind I don't know if it will happen again. I guess no one has this issue though 🤷♂️
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Hmm that’s interesting, never had that problem! Definitely reach out to them for repair
@juniorlewalski4393
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel I know! No one has!!!!! Lol
@samkamyafes2139
Жыл бұрын
@@juniorlewalski4393 bro did u try to oil your spring kzitem.info/news/bejne/16SNzouhpoN0eXY firing pin spring and another springs sorry for my english
@njcranes
Жыл бұрын
over 3k shots thru my Rival at the range and Steel Challenge, great piece to me. Because I can't help myself, I love to tinker with everything I own. Added tungsten guide rod, new rod spring, striker spring, plunger spring, did put on FS trigger (zero wall and short reset, be careful), brass backstrap and finally a green dot (eyes are aging along with the rest of me). Still with those, puts me less than the cost of the DR920L. Incredible value the Rival
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yes it is! Great setup! Thanks for sharing!
@Osprey1994
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I would say needs to be swapped on a G34 is the sights, that's it. Stock trigger and everything you can easily hit at 25 to 100 yards. I only own one Glock, so it's not as if I am a Glock adherent, but I can admit that the only thing I would change is the slide because it's not an MOS model and I like red dots. The trigger is fine, the Ameriglo sights it came with are great, it's just a solid pistol.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
A Gen 5 G34 runs about 700 then if you put good fiber optic front blacked out rear sights like the others you are closer to 800. You still don’t have a Magwell, upgrade trigger, optics cut or good serrations like the other two, if we take the Shadow Systems out of the equation. The stock trigger on a Glock is lack luster in comparison to its competitors.
@briancarter9120
10 ай бұрын
I have the sig p320 xfive legend and the canik tp9fsx. Both are great guns. The canik comes with more in the box, but the sig is hands down my favorite. It will shoot anything I put in the pipe accurately and fast.
@HuntFishShootChannel
10 ай бұрын
Hell yeah 💪
@Johnblaze678
Жыл бұрын
Since this video seems to focus on the use of these pistols in a competition setting, It's important to note that most guys using the p320 to shoot competitively will be running the Sig 21 round mags for the ease of insertion and/or potential stripping, and added capacity allowing more flexibility when planning their stage. So the issues with the legion base plate are easily remedied. And if they aren't running the stock 21 round mags, they're using some other +5 mag extension.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Although you aren’t wrong, you still buy this particular Sig model and it comes with those basepads/mags/Magwell. Your theory doesn’t make it any better, the gun should just come with those things, kinda like making the DH3 version and charging 300 bucks more.
@Johnblaze678
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel Fair point. I agree that it should just ship with the extended magazines. The M17 and M18 do, not sure why they thought it wouldn't be advantageous to include extended magazines with a competition oriented gun. Guessing a typical money grab.
@stovepipe8966
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel In USPSA/IPSC CO/PO you can’t use the magwell anyway. The internal bevels in the Sig TXG grip and the Rival are very well designed and are just as fast as the mag well IMO. For competition, you want to be able to precisely and very efficiently hit the actual internal funnel, I never actually touch the mag well with the mag even if it is installed . I’ll throw the magwell on for IDPA CO just cause it looks cool . I do have after market + 0 heavy Alu extended base pads for my Sig Max , but that’s just to get more grab on them and more drop on the release. I’m in Canada so we are capped at 10 for all divisions. Otherwise the Max in the US does ship with x4 21 round mags . The DH3 comes with x3 21 round mags , some enhanced grip work, a better optic plate system than the X5 etc . I like all the pistols you’ve got there - but for best overall everything for competition , I prefer the Sig Max - heavy frame , trigger is great once broken in , no malfunctions with any ammo in any situation. I’ve had a few minor hiccups with both Caniks and SS .
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
All three are great options! In particular shooter preference and what one person shoots best is important!
@B0N3ZNP3WZ
Жыл бұрын
Shadow systems all day every day. I can't wait To get the new DR920L!
@ronhunt9396
Жыл бұрын
Great video. My favorite that I own is the Staccato C2 9mm with a green dot. I have a permanent range and a portable range on my property. I'm not a competition shooter
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! The C2 is a fantastic gun and it is better than these pistols but obviously that comes with a cost, worth it to some,like myself 💪 thanks for watching!!!
@dkrz123
Жыл бұрын
For USPSA matches, you can't use the magwell flare on the X5 Legion anyway. That's one reason it's removable. When it's off, it's no different than the other pistols that are discussed here.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Great thanks for sharing. Uspsa may not be the only purpose.
@stovepipe8966
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel I know this has been beaten to death , but there’s nothing wrong with the Legion mags for USPSA or IPSC CO or PO as you have ti take off the magwell anyway. . I use the magwell when I shoot IDPA CO but use Sig extended base pads . But USPSA guys are going to use 21+ round mags anyway . The P320 Max comes with 4 21 round mags . Both the Rival and the Legion/Max TXG modules have very good internally flared mag funnels and I can load just as fast as with the magwell
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Great thanks for sharing! Maybe sig should sell the pistol without the Magwell and then make the pistol cheaper! That would be great
@rudyfigueroa2246
Жыл бұрын
First gun was a g3 Taurus 2nd I just got canik tp9sfx..both nice affordable guns I hope in some months I am able to get this shadow systems one in my collection. Looks really nice.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
gotta start somewhere! Thanks for sharing!
@waynecastleman1363
Жыл бұрын
All three could be a lot of fun at the range. 🇺🇸💪🙏
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Tons of fun!
@doc2936
Жыл бұрын
Canik rival sfx with a disruptive defense compensator and tp9 threaded barrel needs nothing else. I added a bencstorger recoil management system into it also. Shoots flats.
@idrisatesci
Жыл бұрын
I am trained and educated on reading body language. Obviously, you stared way much more than Rival than others giving me a good idea ;)
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It’s a great gun, best value on the market for what it is. Side bar, If you are trained in body language can you read my mind? Objectionable the Canik is one of the best options, but personally I will pick the DR920L 😂
@johnmoore8067
Жыл бұрын
That's because it's SO much sexier.
@Narsuitus
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great review. Even though I prefer combat guns to competition guns, I found your video very useful.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help! Thanks for watching!
@huntgar
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the optic mounting plates either but I do like the Canik best. Have you spent time with the Walther Q4 SF/Q5 Match?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The Walther is very nice but I would Get the Canik pistols before the Walther and they are cheaper!
@huntgar
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel and come with more mags. Walther mags are priced just like the pistols🥺
@eriklambert3809
Жыл бұрын
I have become a bit of a SS fan boy over the last few yrs. Love getting an out of the box gun that is kind of done without having to send everything off.
@ammogiant824
Жыл бұрын
Yes I am..... was now for some strange reason I'm all in on Canik fan
@samsolis92781
Жыл бұрын
I heard everyone complains about the mags it comes with!! What’s your experience? Use Glock mags instead?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
I use the ones it comes with and G17 mags and they all work great. I have never had an issue with PMag GL9 mags, even using them before owning a shadow.
@braylonfisher8062
Жыл бұрын
“This content”🐐🐐
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
💪💪💪
@jamesdelong6401
Жыл бұрын
Nice pistol. I've been 👀 Balling 👀 shadow systems line up for 3 weeks. I'm just holding out for them to come out with a full metal pistol.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
That would be sweet!!! Thanks for watching
@TineEdong
Жыл бұрын
I had issues with the canik out the box with blazer brass. I didn’t like how large the mag button was it would drill my support hand. I had a dr920p also issues with failure to feed and eject issues after 400 rounds. Never had an issue with the 320 legion. Canik IS very accurate though.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@redus2
Жыл бұрын
Seeing that Shadow Systems make me regret getting a DR920 last year :) now I want that DR920L :D
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
You needs it! I don’t know if I’ll be shooting my DR920 much anymore
@edgaresquivel2147
Жыл бұрын
Well you both can send me your DR920s, I won’t mind…
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Get right on it! 😂
@deanmiller6177
11 ай бұрын
Have both the Canik and a Shadow Systems.Shadow Systems will outperform the other two and I will put my Canik next.
@HuntFishShootChannel
11 ай бұрын
For sure!
@mfcriz2561
Жыл бұрын
1st time seeing your videos. Good job man.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel! Check out our other stuff if you want and we have weekly content! Thanks for watching and appreciate the compliment. 💪
@charles17508
Жыл бұрын
I'd take the shadow systems
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
👏
@leoguy1609
Жыл бұрын
For the its range you probably won't find anything better than the Canik SFx Rival. One thing people do is complain to much they don't like this or that or a particular brand for whatever the reason, there will never be a perfect firearm because if there was we wouldn't need all these firearms! If it works for you? Great, that all that matters.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It is a great gun indeed! Hard not to like!
@thomaspuma434
Жыл бұрын
You did a very thorough job Thank you
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas! Glad you enjoyed it!
@jaysen192
Жыл бұрын
The Sig and Shadow Systems DO NOT use optic plates, they mount directly to the slide. I own both. The Sig with a Romeo 1 Pro and the DR920 with a Holosun 507
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
That is correct.
@jamesdelong6401
11 ай бұрын
Shadow systems seems like to me they killing it with their optics cut design on their slides. No, mounting plate needed. A plus
@HuntFishShootChannel
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@joed3264
6 ай бұрын
Looks like the Sig won't make weight for IDPA - too heavy. I have a Canik SFX Rival Steel on the way. It makes weight at 43 oz. I shot a friend's today. The steel frame takes the snap away. Bore axis does make a difference.
@HuntFishShootChannel
6 ай бұрын
All good points!
@randyreviewsit
Жыл бұрын
I would argue the new king will be out this year. Will be a zev with an icarus precision grip and the long slide and barrel.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
I mean it will likely cost twice as much as these then and you might as well buy a Staccato at that point.
@davidhoward9722
Жыл бұрын
Nils won Carry Optics USPSA with the Canik.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Sure did! It’s a great gun and the S model is even sweeter!
@mmike40451
Жыл бұрын
He would have won with a Taurus
@dalerobbins4737
Жыл бұрын
ERY good and honest review 👍⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dale! The reality is they are all great handguns and someone could be happy with any of them!
@ricksprague3337
Жыл бұрын
Great video nice review maybe sig will listen. Heck maybe hire you 😂
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Hahahah right that would work hahah
@Three60Crusader
Жыл бұрын
I just picked up the SFX Darkside for sub 700 so looking forward to trying it out.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
You will love it no doubt! Such nice pistols and can’t be beat for the money
@jonah8133
Жыл бұрын
"Canik doesn't have the track record of the other 2". ? Since when does shadow systems have a good track record? All I've seen from them is garbage reliability from a harshly overpriced platform. Other than that, I really enjoyed this video
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Canik rival hasn’t been out long and the shadow design is a Glock copy/clone. Regardless, in what realm have you seen “garbage” reliability? Do you have a basis for claiming they are “harshly” overpowered or have you never seen a modded or tricked out Glock pistol which usually costs twice as much as shadow systems products?
@reefermonster9651
5 ай бұрын
Nah bro shadow systems ain't it
@jonah8133
5 ай бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannelspeaking from my own experience owning a DR920 War Poet that had issues which Shadow systems never responded to. Also you’ve never done much research on Shadow Systems if you had to ask me that question. Go check out Honest Outlaws review of the shadow systems newer subcompact pistol the cr something. There’s lots and lots of examples of piss poor QC etc
@jonah8133
5 ай бұрын
@@reefermonster9651not at all dude. They blow
@HuntFishShootChannel
5 ай бұрын
@jonah8133 that has not been my experience in a number of their pistols and some other folks I know. Of course issues happen and it’s unfortunate they happened to tou.
@chrisr7694
9 ай бұрын
My Shadow DR920 is the worst gun I own and the only gun i have ever purchased that I regret. I also have the X5 Legion, absolutly amazing gun and would buy another in a heartbeat.
@HuntFishShootChannel
9 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, why is it the worst gun you own?
@johnpelfrey2041
Жыл бұрын
Great job!!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks John!
@frankcampisi6031
Жыл бұрын
Love my legion . Use it for competition and it has served me well
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The legion is a great pistol and has a proven track record! I like mine as well!
@sharper9009
Жыл бұрын
Newsflash!! The mag wells are not used in competition because they are illegal in the main divisions in which they will be shot.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Newsflash on a competition focused gun, why put them on in the first place then and save the end use money.
@sharper9009
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel That would be a question for the manufacturers. But I couldn’t agree with you more
@TheTGRproductions
Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna go with the Canik on this one, they're just amazing handguns for the price!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Yes they sure are!
@awokeone7997
Жыл бұрын
I know the Canik Rival S is out but I'm an M&P/P10 type of guy. Would like to see a video of you with the M&P Competitor vs all of those on the table.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
That would be ideal, but they are just not available or as easy to acquire as the other two
@YouBoyJpres
Жыл бұрын
920L 😮💪🏽
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It’s sweet!
@patthis
Жыл бұрын
Great review, which one do you shoot the best?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The DR920L
@ABiblicalView
Жыл бұрын
I could tell by the thumbnail we got a glock fan here. New glock vs semi new canik. The Canik S should have been in here to be fair. New vs New
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t even out when we made this video. I literally stated the Rival itself is the best value and one of the best.
@ABiblicalView
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel just messin with ya brother 🙂 we all appreciate the time and effort you must have put into giving us this comparison. Thank you very much.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! All good, glad you like it and we appreciate our viewers!
@cee3
Жыл бұрын
Where is the rival steel? The rival won 6 different national championships this year.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
We made this video before that was released!
@BangBang-np9nm
8 ай бұрын
SS are reliability nightmares
@HuntFishShootChannel
8 ай бұрын
Not in our experience
@Glock7eventeen
Жыл бұрын
P320 is the king, same gun used by the U.S. military along with the Norweigan, Danish and most recently Canadian and Australian militaries.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Military or government contracts don’t deem a gun the best. But they are a good gun!
@Glock7eventeen
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel maybe there are other guns that could be just as good as a stock p320, but I want the same gun that is used by the strongest, most powerful military in human history. Also, a proper P320 build, with a PMM Tardigrade Comp + barrel, light cut slide, titanium rod, TXG grip, spring and a gas lever will outperform any gun on the planet, even a 2011 Atlas or a Staccato, it’s like there’s zero recoil. Although a build like that would cost around $3K so it’s not exactly cheap lol
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
That would be a sick build! PMM makes some awesome stuff!
@Glock7eventeen
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel yeah they just released a new comp + barrel for the p320, but it costs like $1600 which is crazy
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
I know it’s super expensive, but I wants it!
@mschulz55
Жыл бұрын
You should try rival dark side it addresses your issue with optic plates
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@el.mas.buscado7221
5 ай бұрын
SFX RIVAL HANDS DOWN
@HuntFishShootChannel
5 ай бұрын
Such a great pistol!
@tarabusaw4627
Жыл бұрын
Canik!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@charles17508
Жыл бұрын
Wish shadow systems used gen 5 components
@NeverGone23
Жыл бұрын
I bought the 21 mags for the Legion.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah
@drkok67
Жыл бұрын
mate just accept the CANIK systems are the best. the rest is competitors nothing more.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
They are great pistols but at some point the individual shooter must pick what they shoot best and they feel most comfortable with
@ThruMyLens100
Жыл бұрын
You say that whoever designed the mag well magazine combination on the Legion X5 has never shot competition, but I think it is you who has never shot competition. The gun was designed for USPSA competition. It can be used in several different divisions, including production, carry optics, and open. The only division that you will use the mag well would be open in for that division you would use extended base pads. The other divisions would require you to remove the mag well to be compliant. The only division that you would use the stock based pads would be production. And in that division, you would have to remove the mag well so the design is great.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Removing the magazine well would be fine and the mags would be great. But with the stock mags it doesn’t index well or work. You are also only considering one type of competition shooting, there is others ya know like three gun, multi gun, two gun, tactical games, just to name a few. How about this, what if someone wanted to use it for a duty pistol? They would need new mags or longer basepads. My point is this, why not make a more usable mag well, that can be used with the stock magazines or easily removed, if deemed necessary for compliance in certain divisions. Besides your point of Sig thought or thinks the mags work well with that mag well, why come out with an updated DH3 model which uses the 21 round magazines. You also assume this opinion or statement I make is original and no one else holds the same sentiment. Remember this also, you can’t pretend to know someone’s background.
@ThruMyLens100
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel - it’s amazing to me how much digital ink someone will spill simply to avoid saying “I was wrong.” The point about the duty pistol is completely irrelevant. This gun was designed primarily with input from Phil Strader himself- former president of USPSA and long time competitor. The gun was not designed to be a duty pistol. Certainly it could be used in that capacity. But SIG has any number of different choices if a duty weapon is desired. This gun was designed for competition specifically for USPSA. It was also designed to be used in several different divisions. The magazine capacity for those divisions vary. Only one would actually use the mag well. The reality is anyone who uses this to shoot in any competitive sport will probably buy base pads to be competitive in their selected division. SIG wanted to make this garden more “special“ by giving it Legion specific bass pads. It would’ve been cheaper to use the standard 21 round magazines instead. The point here is that a person, knowledgeable in competitive shooting would know that the base pads and mag well on this gun are a non-issue. Just learn from the mistake and move on.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Digital ink 😂 I like that. Way more than your comment. Let’s agree to disagree and move on. Your response is short sighted comparable to my short sighted opinion about the base pads or Magwell not interfacing well. Which is really the issue, they don’t. If Sig made This pistol for competition use, why not just make both compatible or even not ship with a basepad and Magwell since like you said, most people will change the basepads and Magwell anywho. Appreciate your input.
@ThruMyLens100
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel - we are inching toward common ground. I don’t disagree that they could have just shipped the gun with the cheaper 21 round magazines. But since it is a Legion, they opted to give it magazines with a special ,more expensive base pad knowing that most users will get different magazine/base pads anyway. So, if most users are going to make a change, why not give them something special opposed to something pedestrian?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! See I knew maybe we had some common ground! Just a slight difference of opinion and maybe I could have worded my opinion better 👍 We will likely review the DH3 version soon enough because it is slick and popular!
@boomee78
Жыл бұрын
You do not need all the things you mentiond to shoot competition with a glock 34 specifically gen 5s if you are running a red dot you dont even need new sights. If not yes get the sights that you prefer but even on the dr920l people switch sights. But you definitely do not need a new trigger or magwell to be competitive in competition
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
of course you don’t need any of those things but they are nice to have.
@boomee78
Жыл бұрын
@HuntFishShootChannel the way it was put in your video made it sound like you did. The words you used to paraphrase were to start competion you need x y z people who are new to competion seem to always think you need certain things its about phrasing and how things are worded. Im trying to get into competion myself unfortunately inwork most weekends and due to manpower issues its extreamly hard to get time off unless injured. That being said i think im just gonna use my g45 mos or my g17 gen 5 and see how far i can get. Or use my walther pdps. Im hesitant to try another shadow sytem or sig
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily must have items but they are things which every Glock owner who uses a Glock to compete does to them. Time is always against us! I know the feeling. For practice, your duty guns would be perfect for the reps and skill building.
@russi1743
7 ай бұрын
I didn't watch it, but let me guess, they are all good guns )
@HuntFishShootChannel
7 ай бұрын
That is actually true! Outside of that it’s personal preference and bank account 😂
@jonathancaldwell4195
Жыл бұрын
Why do you need to be able to grab the clip if it falls out? Just curious, I don’t shoot competition.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
I’m confused by your question, if you wouldn’t mind clarifying
@jonathancaldwell4195
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel how is the flush mags on the sig an issue for competition shooting?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Because you have to deliberately push them into the Magwell and seat them or they will fall out. It almost makes the Magwell counter productive due to them being flush fit
@fang4524
Жыл бұрын
Rival-S has less recoil than any of those guns.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
We unknowingly filmed this days before the Rival-S came out, or it probably would’ve made it in there.
@marisasoniapellegrino3926
9 ай бұрын
I have the rival great gun overall
@HuntFishShootChannel
8 ай бұрын
We think so too! Looking to add the Steel Frame to our lineup
@darenalleyne466
Жыл бұрын
🙏
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
💪💪💪
@davidhoward9722
Жыл бұрын
Silly comment on the X5 mag…..just get the 21 rd standard Sig mag…..done
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It’s what it ships with from the factory. It’s as the pistol sits here, if I gotta go out and get additional mags or basepads does the idea of three mags with little basepads even represent a selling point?
@derrick11boutain
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure this guy has shot the 320 Legion, but the canik has the high bore axis?!?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
And a lack of beavertail. We shoot all the pistols side by side in the video. the Canik has a higher bore axis than the DR920L and feels higher or a toucher higher dimensionally then a 320. That’s not to say it doesn’t shoot well either because it does!
@Samyouell11510
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel all the canik fanboys can’t handle when you recommend something over a canik.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Most people can’t for any pistols and I don’t frankly understand it haha
@thetacticalape8852
Жыл бұрын
Walther PDP Pro ftw!
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
If those existed in a readily available fashion, they would be mentioned. They are great pistol but that model in particular is a unicorn.
@thetacticalape8852
Жыл бұрын
@@HuntFishShootChannel I guess availability varies based on location. I picked one up for Xmas for only 649 at a local sporting goods shop.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
🧐🧐🧐🧐 you son of gun!!! We have been looking for one to review and it’s been impossible and very limited on the web too. Even the folks at Walther told us at SHOT Show there available is extremely limited. Consider yourself lucky! Those are great pistols and easily up here with these.
@thetacticalape8852
Жыл бұрын
@HuntFishShootChannel Well, if you are ever in NE Ohio, drop a line and you can try mine.
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Funny story true story…. Just bought a used/not used one at Fin Feather and Fur. In all serious I have checked stores regularly since it was to be released with no luck since, even was in contact with Walther to get one and they had none available. So moral of the story, we will have a review soon! Haha
@va.6819
Жыл бұрын
I am using Holosun 507c X2 solar and works goog
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
I bet! Those are good for!
@YERAFirearms
Жыл бұрын
I have the Canik and the P320. I am not fan of the ugly Glocks
@brianmadlock8385
Жыл бұрын
So you are the first that said the canik had the higher over bore axis. I’m torn between the rival(s) or sig legion . I want kid of a do all. Fun at the range, do all with light . Also looking at a cz .
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
The CZ P10F Competition is another great option. The Canik is probably the highest bore axis however it still shoots really well. Don’t let that scare you off, just won’t be as forgiving under recoil as the DR920L
@brianmadlock8385
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianmadlock8385
Жыл бұрын
How would the pdp pro sd stack up against these pistols?
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
It would do great I’m sure!
@phenom7181
Жыл бұрын
Check out the new Sig P320 xfive DH3.
@marisasoniapellegrino3926
9 ай бұрын
❤
@marshaclifton1535
Жыл бұрын
I have rival steel . It would win
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Probably would, it wasn’t a thing when this was made.
@PJ-is1jy
Жыл бұрын
Glock takes the crown
@KravMagoo
Жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't. It's a poor man's gun...you have to be poor to buy it instead of a SS...and if you do anyway, it will make you even poorer trying to get the Glock to even remotely resemble a SS. It's a BAD PURCHASE.
@steppenwolf5956
Жыл бұрын
canik
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Great pistol
@damrgee8279
Жыл бұрын
Nice Baphomet
@gunnarhoffer7091
Жыл бұрын
5 inch m&p with an apex blows all 3 out of the water
@HuntFishShootChannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your opinion, the M&P with a apex trigger is nice for sure.
@Pmedic605
Жыл бұрын
I took the mag well off of my 320 X5 Legion because the grip module already has a flared opening.
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