one thing I caught - one of the most powerful mechanics shelob has is that her foods are copies of other creatures so you can steal etbs, statics, and triggered/activated abilities. Unfortunately due to the way the replacement effects work, academy manufactor turns your food token into a vanilla food token with no extra abilities instead of the copy food token. So I’d recommend cutting that for anybody that wants to move their shelob build in the direction of her special food tokens
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
You’re right on this. I will edit the decklist and cut that out of the video because that’s a very good call
@wesleydickson7036
Жыл бұрын
As someone just getting into Commander it is nice to see a straightforward and beginner-friendly video. Keep it up!
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Thank you :)
@amphilochusofmallus5070
2 ай бұрын
Night of the sweets revenge has been doing work for me in this deck
@KitsuLeif
Жыл бұрын
A few things to clarify: With just 2 power, you won't be able kill eight creatures with Watcher in the Web, as you have to assign each creature 1 point of damage for Deathtouch to happen. Unless you buff it, you can kill a maximum of two attackers with it. Also, First Strike doesn't care for cards like Prize Fight, as it doesn't happen in Combat. Both creatures just deal damage to each other at the same time. Ram Through's damage isn't Commander Damage, even when you target your Shelob with it. Only Combat Damage from a Commander is Commander Damage.
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
I went ahead and cut those parts from the video, as this is all true. Good catches! I’m not perfect and just do the best I can with these things so I appreciate it when people come along and help me catch my mistakes!
@AdamKaiser1
Жыл бұрын
It's Time! Swarm, Fight, Eat, Repeat.
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
Haha yes
@woodstock7063
6 ай бұрын
Glowstone recluse mutate over Kami of Whispered hopes is such an explosive combo. Transforms Kami into a spider mana dork for mana equal to toughness. If you have any method of multiplying or adding 1+1+'s such as hard scales, doubling season, or roaming throne, just to name a few the combo gets even nastier.
@philbrake7525
5 ай бұрын
Hey one thing to be weary of is that Shelob is a decently high costing commander, and there really isnt much ramp or mana rocks in this deck. The mana curve is pretty low, so you may not think the ramp is much needed, however if the deck's performance is based off of your spiders having deathtouch (fight cards, etc), then having Shelob out late is a big problem, also Shelob being killed is a huge problem. Gyome, Master Chef helps with this for sure, but i feel like having to hope for that one card to protect your Commander could be an issue. A great addition to help with this could be Arachnogenesis (Creates more spiders / prevents all damage by non spiders). Additionally, to my earlier point about ramp; Jaheira, Friend of the Forest is a great card, however if you dont have your commander out creating tokens, it loses alot of value, and also by the time your Commander is out, you really dont want to have to be worrying about ramp still. Take this all with a grain of salt, as i havent actually played a version of this deck yet (cards are ordered, waiting for me to pick them up!!) But i would be curious to know your thoughts on how your deck turned out, and if you did or did not, infact, run into the issues i mentioned here. Maybe i dont know what im talking about. who knows? EDIT: On second glance, the ramp doesnt look as bad as i thought. Only 3 mana rocks does seem on the low side though.
@hazrdusleech9594
Жыл бұрын
Love the videos man. I bought your zada and added some of my own and it is a beast. Keep it up man
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome to hear! I think you might have been the first to buy a deck a built so that’s really cool ;)
@deenmohammad385
Жыл бұрын
🔥 vid
@noaht2125
Жыл бұрын
I may not want to build a deck around her, but if I played against this deck that you built I’d be terrified!
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
That’s a huge compliment! I have playtested this one a number of times and it is probably one of the most powerful deck techs I’ve made.
@Musical-listener
8 ай бұрын
Can you come back and redue this deck to see if anything new with spiders come up
@gingercommando7399
Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
@Vohtwomax
4 ай бұрын
I played against a shelob deck a few weeks back. All spiders had deathtouch, reach, ward, and indestructible(i think?) I lost.
@patricklyles8053
Жыл бұрын
Am I getting this wrong but Shelob says that when creature dies it loses all creature types, when it becomes a food token it does not lose its abilities thus ETBs are still active
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
I’m honestly not too sure! That’s a very good question.
@pyropyro2669
Жыл бұрын
Building to help me with a dragon problem lol😂
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
definitely a good way to do it haha
@pyropyro2669
Жыл бұрын
@@v0idmtg best part that player the it is already has arachnophobia
@shinysanimals
Жыл бұрын
Frodo Sauron’s bane next please!
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
definitely could do this
@Just-a-Canuck
3 ай бұрын
Question, when the creatures have death touch and trample, can you assigned one damage to the blocking creature since it will kill it, and then use the rest as trample damages?
@keypiece9764
5 ай бұрын
There isn’t a lot of ways to buff creatures in suggest thounder foot balouth
@bryamramos6220
Жыл бұрын
You should post the decklist link in the description
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
Thought it was there! Thanks for pointing that out
@tradebaron6790
Жыл бұрын
Love the video, though Academy Manufactor is a nonbo with Shelob: because the AM says "create one of each" and specifies Food, it will replace the unique food token with a regular one. So just be careful when both are out
@v0idmtg
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a good call!
@tokknokk
2 ай бұрын
is there a recommendation for a replacement to Curse of clinging webs. It seems to be not available for mtgo. Thank you!
@RefriedVirus
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you get the killed creatures abilities in the token when turning them into food too
@korosensihi6335
Жыл бұрын
Yes I love Shelob and I’m glad you built this deck I might Want to buy it . Great deck tech
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