Great video. We can see that the wheel stopped rotating forward and started to rotate reverse. Probably due to changing orientation of the wheel during the fly. When you landed it was going back and maybe that is why ot was not able to react properly after landing. I think wheel in the air idealy should be spinning with the same speed as before the airborne, so it is crucial to maintain the same position of it.
@JamieDirt
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right.
@vertigev
Жыл бұрын
How do you do that though?
@deadmonkeyeuc2594
Жыл бұрын
I have landed my s18 and Master with more air and more back spin and both have managed to catch me just fine every time. The loose gravel would have helped to soften the impact on the electrics. This is not a good look for veteran and people who want to do even occasional little jumps on the Sherman s.
@eucmike
Жыл бұрын
s22 can do this night and day with the wheel spining in reverse... done it manny times 0 issues. LeaperKim need to work on the FW I guess.
@hi--tEk
Жыл бұрын
@@vertigev keep your feet dead level all the way through the jump,try and just take the wheel with you without to much imput
@grb1969
Жыл бұрын
We need a slightly more sophisticated torque conttrol feedback method that would allow these wheels to have less instantaneous torque applied when wheel speed exceeds ground speed . This is a software problem that causes current surge feedback issues and can blow components on the motherboard. If fixed, we could have better traction control on ice (slipping), the ability to power slide (translating) and safer aerial flight (unloading). This is easily fixed in firmware but additional code will have to be written so it might take some time before we see this core design deficiency addressed. {too bad the firmware isn't open source or this would have been fixed by the community by now.}
@deadmonkeyeuc2594
Жыл бұрын
and the wheel would need accurate gps location data?
@grb1969
Жыл бұрын
@@deadmonkeyeuc2594 Not necessarily, when the wheel is “unloaded” during airtime, the current needed to spin up is minimal and this could be used as a parameter that would maintain constant rotational velocity while airborne until the current spike of landing re-engages the balance mode. The ability to measure the needed metrics already exist but the programming just needs to be improved. What is key to understand is that there are almost no circumstances where the wheel spin up while decreasing current demand (except free-spin test, for example). Torque control could result in traction control, which would make riding across “black ice” more safe; it could also make stair climbing easier too. The problems arise from the simplicity of the control method, which was sufficient for “toy” EUCs but complicates potential failure modalities for high speed/ performance wheels. My previous response was slightly incredulous 🤨 because the jump executed in the video was nearly perfect, and the minimal backspin seen at landing should well within a performance wheel’s capability. I suspect that the failure was from a faulty capacitor, which should have been able to handle the load. The trend of blaming the riders for the majority of electronics failures is simple egotistical arrogance (I.e. bullshit).
@benjaminloyer1293
3 ай бұрын
@@deadmonkeyeuc2594 accelerometer would be enough
@bobdebouwer7835
2 ай бұрын
This is why I don't like powerpads that are so wide. They lock up your legs. Instead of flying forward you are smashed to the ground.
@BabbittdaWabbitt
Жыл бұрын
I must be getting old. I don’t see the point of jumping an euc.
@hellavisionsmellavision
Жыл бұрын
It is very fun 😄😁 so is riding stairs. I ride a kingsong s22 though. It's a skill to be learned
@deadmonkeyeuc2594
Жыл бұрын
jumping euc's is like the reason i bought one. its super fun. I've landed just like this countless times. something is wrong with sherman-s
@boblatkey7160
4 ай бұрын
I bet your wife is bummed.
@UpcomingJedi
2 ай бұрын
Simple. They should have bought a paramotor to fly but invested in the wrong sport.
@0xsergy
17 күн бұрын
i'm too old to jump bicycles at this point. i still gotta work, i aint breaking a bone flying through the air
@UpcomingJedi
2 ай бұрын
Lo tyre pressure. It bottomed out so hard that some chinese man planting rice in china got hit.
@JonahOnEUC
Жыл бұрын
What do the log file say happened???
@MitchG
Жыл бұрын
Don't let the wheel lean back in the air and it won't happen
@YeeLeeHaw
Жыл бұрын
This is a software problem. If they made their source code open this would be an easy fix probably.
@boblatkey7160
4 ай бұрын
Wrong!
@Gideon-300
6 ай бұрын
Haha that debris at the end
@milordas
Жыл бұрын
and whats happened to the man without protection? :)
@Hokunin
2 ай бұрын
he had helmet. knee caps and elbow joints are not necessary to exist
@supercurioTube
Жыл бұрын
I don't think your landing was trop brusque (too harsh) but good instead although not _perfect_. The wheel was not supposed to give up balancing in that case and it's not even a high torque situation given how clean the landing: no significant forward or backwards lean. It needs to be brought up to LeaperKim's attention. Is high speed mode active?
@alexiscalcagni
Жыл бұрын
No. Speed mode is off
@FourthWayRanch
Жыл бұрын
@@alexiscalcagni any wheel needs to be in it's highest performance mode to respond to a situation like that no?
@CrossroadWater
Жыл бұрын
And this right here 0:26 is EXACTLY why I don't like to be 'locked in' with power pads as everyone likes to say.
@vertigev
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@CrossroadWater
Жыл бұрын
@@vertigev Meaning his feet were so 'locked into' the wheel, that when it went down, he was forced to go down with it.
@deadmonkeyeuc2594
Жыл бұрын
you jump wheels without foot lock?
@CrossroadWater
Жыл бұрын
@@deadmonkeyeuc2594 That's a really great question. No I don't, and to be fair if I did do jumps I'd probably lock in just like he has. But doesn't change the fact that it's still spooks me 👀
@pedro-on-wheels
Жыл бұрын
I ride fully "locked in" .... if I fall hard, I typically get ejected from my shoe(s). It's a little sketchy but I'd fall a lot more if I weren't locked in to begin with. Safe Riding!
@GokdenizCetin
Ай бұрын
Warranty status?
@Vince4343
4 күн бұрын
🤕🤕🤕
@jspjjsspp5077
Жыл бұрын
Best vidéo ever !!!!
@RoughNeckDelta
2 ай бұрын
So why did this happen?
@bepriceless
Жыл бұрын
Good air, anyway.
@BigBoss-gb4cx
Жыл бұрын
That isn't pedal dip. You lean back and you can see that the wheel starts roll backwards at 0:23 because it tries to ballance.
@boblatkey7160
4 ай бұрын
Regardless, it shouldn't have dipped like that on a landing when he was only slightly off. You're splitting hairs
@A-Viking
Жыл бұрын
..yeah not good
@quantumtechcrypto7080
Жыл бұрын
RIP REST IN PIECES
@kitakevoykrul725
Жыл бұрын
just the same thing happened to me. And jumped not half as high. I jumped a pedaled crosswalk and got off the pedals.😅
@supercurioTube
Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in more details to investigate the issue, could you develop further everything you can remember?
@tanknd804
Жыл бұрын
In this video of the Sherman Patton (at 2:20) the wheel also began to spin backwards.....but it didn't cut out...kzitem.info/news/bejne/xoyG2IKPrqB8a20 But the Patton is also 126v Sso....!🤷🏾♂️
@everest0411
Жыл бұрын
ha ha ha ha ha sorry, but the ending was dramatic to me!!! IT must be hurting, hope you feel better now. That kind of crash was so bad. Good launching and good landing, except the sensor for some reason decided to lean forward.....
@tony2707
Жыл бұрын
all that forward momentum when you hit the ground and the wheel trying to go in reverse. The question is why the wheel goes in reverse mid air, is the tilt back really that sensitive and shouldnt it know if your off the ground?
@mycaremel3348
Жыл бұрын
This feels like lays potato chips, 90% air 10% chips
@JemWode
5 ай бұрын
chujowy skok
@boblatkey7160
4 ай бұрын
Shitty comment. You're full of crap.
@Not_Evil_
Жыл бұрын
Trying to get it covered by warranty?
@THCshow
Жыл бұрын
Yeeeet
@Esk-be8kd
7 ай бұрын
Dang
@jaymoose4337
Жыл бұрын
That's why I don't care to jump unnecessarily. Not worth destroying or unnecessary repairs
@mariom9008
Жыл бұрын
There must have been tilt back mid-air because the wheel started going in reverse as it was airborne.
@MaximilianGros
Жыл бұрын
When tilting back the wheel must have spun faster. It only dips forward if it can no longer accelerate.
@dirt.surfer
Жыл бұрын
Lol like the pad, the shit and debris flying back at the end. I jump my s22 everyday and do trails, because it was made for that. Perhaps use the Sherman s for a street cruiser, because that's what it is. The s22 is modular and has superior suspension for jumping and trails. The new Patton seems to be more a trail/jump fun ass wheel, maybe consider that. Hope you didn't get hurt and can ride another day. Just know what your riding and why.
@FourthWayRanch
Жыл бұрын
do you S22 is the best offroad wheel now? V13 has "redundancy" supposedly. have you ever had a cutout?
@dirt.surfer
Жыл бұрын
@embededfabrication4482 it's in a good place nearly any earlier later. Easy to work on, change a tire. And very smooth comfortable ride on the trails. I haven't tried the pro, ppl say it has more torque but apparently it's not a big difference. But getting the 8 rail suspension kits is a game changer
@dirt.surfer
Жыл бұрын
@embededfabrication4482 oh and no I have never had a cutout, I had a few tiltbacks at speed approx 40 kph and leaning to hard up hill, but that it pushing it. Part if knowing your wheels limits.
@FourthWayRanch
Жыл бұрын
can you feel the spikes in the pedals? I ride in sandals. maybe I could grind them down a bit.
@apb64
Жыл бұрын
Колесо в воздухе остановилось и начало вращаться назад. Надо было следить за уровнем! Не умеешь - не прыгай!!
@boblatkey7160
4 ай бұрын
He jumped just fine. You're full of crap!
@Debiutant
Жыл бұрын
Где конец?
@omidel.
Жыл бұрын
This is not acceptable...stop making heavy, underpowered wheels
@VECTOR_Coasters
Жыл бұрын
this wheel is the opposite of underpowered! did you even watch the video? it had some much power when spinning backwards that it couldn’t recover and this was the riders fault for not knowing how to jump properly
@omidel.
Жыл бұрын
@@VECTOR_Coasters leaperkin will fix it..
@VECTOR_Coasters
Жыл бұрын
@@omidel. will fix what? nothing went wrong
@vertigev
Жыл бұрын
@@VECTOR_Coasters Nothing went wrong? This crashed the rider. If it can be improved for safety, then it should.
@VECTOR_Coasters
Жыл бұрын
@@vertigev and its the riders fault for tilting the wheel back in the air (you can do this exact same thing to any wheel) it can't be improved safety wise because it had nothing to do with safety
@jawsilent13
Жыл бұрын
Rider mod needed. Landed incorrectly, and if someone has to explain why, rider has no business doing stuff like this. Upgrade skills and reattempt.
@grb1969
Жыл бұрын
This was a perfectly executed jump.
@jawsilent13
Жыл бұрын
@@grb1969 if the objective was to land induce pain, then yes.
@grb1969
Жыл бұрын
@@jawsilent13 Why blame the rider?
@leetNightshade
Жыл бұрын
@@grb1969 I guess they're blaming the rider for leaning back instead of remaining neutral or leaning forward slightly.
@MaximilianGros
Жыл бұрын
The rider wasn't at fault. It was a firmware bug. Every wheel should be able to handle a litte backwards spin. As far as I know it has been fixed.
@murdomeek
Жыл бұрын
You landed poorly. A good landing should be straight up and down. You landed with too much forward lean
@m.m85434
Жыл бұрын
Forward lean? His wheel was literally spinning backwards :D
@oakwolf5161
Жыл бұрын
@@m.m85434 yeah it seems to be back spinning. Something like he landed on the heels/brakes and "overpowered" it?
@JonahOnEUC
Жыл бұрын
@@oakwolf5161 That is my current theory. Voltage spike into the motherboard from the reverse direction, coupled with not enough caps in Veteran wheels and probably set to Hard mode.
@MaximilianGros
Жыл бұрын
@@oakwolf5161 It's a firmware bug. Every wheel should be able to handle a litte backwards spin. As far as I know it has been fixed.
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