The follower spring gets hung up on the lip of the follower. File the lip at an angle, to allow the spring to slip into the follower socket.
@suasponte6230
6 ай бұрын
I took my drimmel to the interior corners of the follower. I reshaped them from having ledges (where the spring hung up on) to being tapered. Problem solved.
@gabegabe9989
4 ай бұрын
Horrible instruction
@warrenclauss3425
4 ай бұрын
There was a video on how to adjust the follower , just no room for the spring without removing some material from the follower
@SuperEddie0228
4 ай бұрын
Smith and wesson. What the hell. If you know this is a problem, why the fix it. Its suck am easybfix to make your customers happy
@georgeferrone1867
Ай бұрын
@@suasponte6230yes that’s it now 13 easy
@andrewwalters1791
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! I was getting pretty pissed that I couldn’t get but 11 rounds in.
@chriswalker68
Жыл бұрын
Saw another video on YT and he explained why the spring doesn't seat over the follower correctly. He showed where to shave down the backside of the follower so the spring always seats correctly. It's a common issue that should be addressed by S&W. Look up Sack's Garage, I can't figure out how to link the video.
@michaelschaffer5984
2 жыл бұрын
Man I had the same problem. I had several 13 rounders that only held 12. I didn't give up on them. Got an Uplula loader put those mags on the table and pressed down as hard as I could. Some inside the mags went pop and they took another round. All those mags work great now and accept 13 much more easily.
@larryyocum2904
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that! When I get home tonight I'll try it. I already had an Uplula and got the Shield Plus later, but yeah, can only load 11 rounds with my old fingers!
@quintonmcclellan3279
11 ай бұрын
I did the same exact shit. The spring compressed a bit more and popped and now they're perfect.
@horneblendeandcamguy
2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, thank you. The 13 that came with my shield plus was about as stiff to get the 13th in as the second 13 rounder I purchased was to get the 12th in. Thought there was no way I was getting a 13th in but I did after watching this. The mags that come with the gun must be pre-broken in. They also have a different finish. Mags that came with the gun have almost a satin finish, the extra mags I bought have a glossy finish.
@fauxchung3189
2 жыл бұрын
Same issue for me as well and I would like to add that trying to rack back the 13th round is extremely difficult. Not ideal for a gun that’s meant to be carried everyday. It’s so difficult that I rather just load it with twelve rounds to have everything working smoothly.
@KeithRichard-ps6gd
Жыл бұрын
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@jackmarks2176
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info man, I set it on a sturdy wood bench and put some pressure on it with the speed loader and '"pop" right in. After I shoot with it today will leave it loaded for a while.
@jdyounan8660
2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness you did this video. I had the same problem...
@fuckagooglecount2448
2 жыл бұрын
You have to pop the hymen
@geargirl2399
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Got all 5 mags (13round) from sportsman’s guide and couldn’t get the last 2 rounds in any of them.
@zabllen
Жыл бұрын
I had this issue when I first got the gun last week, tried loading both magazines by hand and it wasn’t working, was only able to get 11 rounds in, but I used my magloader instead, and really pushed down on both mags, and that for me did the trick.
@jimc3705
2 жыл бұрын
had same issue with 10 round shield plus, 9th round was tough in 10th round nearly impossible . The problem turned out to be the spring was not hooked into the orange follower hole. this caused the spring to bunch up and take up space rather than allowing the final rounds to load smoothly. used a pair of pliers to get the spring back into the hole and all 10 rounds load smoothly now
@dougt5357
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Just got the Plus package with the Bugout Bag and extra 13 round magazines and couldn't load any of them. Got 10 in the 10 round mag but, that was a struggle, too! Now I have an idea of how to fix this. I have a MakerShot loader so I hope it works as good as the UpLULA. I saw another video earlier where it showed how to load the Plus magazines and there were comments there about having issues filling them to capacity. If you don't mind I'd like to copy the link to your video and post it there. Thanks again!
@EngineVSEngine
5 ай бұрын
I just got my gun yesterday, I am glad I am not the only one having difficulty loading these magazines. I eventually gave up and ordered a loader to help.
@Three2Three323
Ай бұрын
😂😂 my thumb was hurting, trying to put the last 2 rounds. I gave up too
@thaigoebel6100
2 жыл бұрын
I needed to see this. Thank you!
@kenhawk2881
Жыл бұрын
As per S&W ...Depress the Spring with a wooden dowel 100 to 200 times. I did this and still needed a "Super Thumb" loader to get the 13th round in. I heard a pop in the bottom of the mag. They have been easier since. GL
@xdecker1179
2 жыл бұрын
This was exactly my problem. Thank you
@eshedresch8445
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. I thought for a second that if i push to hard I will damage the magazine lips.
@JasonPiepmeier
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! Same issue
@josemtftello5328
2 жыл бұрын
I pushed in the 12th with a Phillips I thought I was weak lol
@KParks
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I took the mag apart twice trying to figure out what the issue is lol thought I was gonna break my loader it was so tight. But it worked 👍
@godsdozer
Жыл бұрын
yep me too
@ecgrillz2045
2 жыл бұрын
same issue, but i did exactly what you did and now it's just fine
@veizour
Жыл бұрын
THANKS!!!! That does help! Appreciated.
@lesliewoinarowicz7018
Жыл бұрын
There is a defect on the follower. Take it apart and you will see the difference from mags the work correctly. I sent mine back to Smith for a replacement. Customer service was rude but they agreed to send me new ones but it is a hassle, still waiting. Some people are shaving part of the inside of the follower to make it work.
@58MrMike
Жыл бұрын
My 2.0 mags are the same. Thanks!
@frankedgar6694
Жыл бұрын
I simply took the magazine apart, reassembled it and had no problem. I have zero idea why that worked but it did. The Bass Pro rep said it’s because of the kind of steel used. He says he simply loaded it, left it for a while and the problem cured itself.
@frankedgar6694
Жыл бұрын
I’d add, I had zero issues with any of the mags when I took the new weapon and magazines to the range. I absolutely love how accurate the Shied Plus is.
@joemercado9664
2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@johnjones5631
Жыл бұрын
This helped thanks
@sarahholtsclaw3723
Жыл бұрын
dam good mag springs BREAK IN U BE OK. LITTLE BOY
@PorfyD23
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dude
@Thesusoperator
2 жыл бұрын
13 should hold 13. Still hard after 500rds
@RanTausi
10 ай бұрын
I am putting 12 , I just figured out the with 13 rd inside is a little pressed while inserting the mag into the gun, with 12 rd is much better. I am ok with it though. I appreciate the 15 rd magazine of rhe hellcat pro it just seat perfectly flat whit the gun grip.
@dcrow1638
Жыл бұрын
My advice on any shield plus magazine is to follow the owner’s manual for disassembly and verify that the spring is seated to the follower correctly (in the spring hole of the follower) as soon as you get one. I went right to breaking my 10 rounder in all this time. Yesterday I took it apart and this whole time from the factory it wasn’t seated properly. Now that it is it takes all 10 no problem. The concern now is not enough spring tension when pushing the follower with your thumb compared to all the 13 rounders or any other gun mag I have. Seems way too easy.
@KeithRichard-ps6gd
Жыл бұрын
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@biteme19671
2 жыл бұрын
One I finally forced 13 rounds in, but couldn't insert into the fun, the 2nd mag using my speed loader would only accept 10 rounds.
@FYMFLBISS1
2 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue, have you figured out a fix for this?
@gunsofmasseffect4321
2 жыл бұрын
@@FYMFLBISS1Not yet, haven't had the time 1 mag I forced 13 in but but the other only 10 went in and I haven't even attempted with the other 3.
@gunsofmasseffect4321
2 жыл бұрын
Plan on at some point taking them apart.
@TerminalM193
2 жыл бұрын
They just need broke in from empty to full about a dozen times. The mag won't set if you force 13 and leave it. The magazine wont "set" unless it's been cycled which helps crack and bond the spring at a molecular level. Forcing it like that will only hurt it...
@jamianbriar
Жыл бұрын
thx bro
@513Headstrong
2 жыл бұрын
I got a 5 pack, 1 10 rnd works good, 1 13 rnd works good, but 3 other 13 rnds, I can only fit 11, and they don't eject from the gun Like the others do, the follower doesn't engage the slide lock either.
@tshep2az
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out about your shield plus mags nor ejecting I am having the same problem with 3 13rd mags that came in bundle won't eject when you press mag release but the two mags that came with gun work
@alswearengen0000
Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@jamesgullo8240
2 ай бұрын
It should be fixed at the factory by S+W, not me.
@hawkgrunt4182
2 жыл бұрын
I also had to get the uplula
@denmar355
2 ай бұрын
There are videos on how to rectify this issue. The follower is having problems with the spring getting seated.
@Blayze1017
Жыл бұрын
Got my plus yesterday. Only able to get 11 fmj 115 gr in the 13 round mags. Remington and winchester. Decided to try my critical defense (115 gr also) and was able to get all 13 in. The nose is tapered more on the critical defense. Maybe the mag spring will loosen up some over time and it’ll all be fine.
@gunracr
Жыл бұрын
Has nothing to do with projectile profile, OAL, fmj, jhp or even lead RN The problem is the spring and follower interaction. Just to test my theory I took a 13rd shield plus mag cut 2 coils of the bottom and tuned the spring to look exactly as the as the oem. The coil orientation and spring base identical. Then I removed 1/8" off the follower stop on the bottom of the follower and reshaped it to oem visually. You might think all that extra coil space and follower room created would easily allow the 13th round to be loaded into the mag. Long story short it didnt and it spring loads up at the 12th round just as before. I've tuned hundreds of race gun mags as COOPTUNED Custom Trigger and mag Works and I was really disappointed with S&W releasing these mags and heavily on the 25th round advertising. The shield plus should come with an Uplula loader as a standard accessory. By the way the trimmed spring and follower mag still ran 100% but my goal was for my wife to be able to load the 13 round mag into the gun fully loaded and be able to rack a round into the chamber starting with slide in battery without the disconnect rail locking that function down due to the pressure from the top round. The problem comes from the spring twisting as it is compressed. The thud release your getting with the Uplula is you now have mechanical advantage to rotate the coils back over the top center of the next coil in line after the 10th round. You can remove your springs and almost like ringing water out of a towel by twisting the opposite direction of how you'll find it several full loads and unloads and reset the spring steel memory. Worked for all of mine
@Blayze1017
Жыл бұрын
@@gunracr when It will take 13 rounds of one type and only 11 of another type it has everything to do with projectile profile.
@gunracr
Жыл бұрын
@@Blayze1017 well then load 13 empty cases and tell me how extremely easily that 13th round loaded based on your findings. I used all common profiles with various OAL from three manufacturers plus my defense and some older match loaded ammo.
@Blayze1017
Жыл бұрын
@@gunracr read my initial comment
@mmatthewcc
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the help. What loader are you using in this video?
@hugostiglitz9864
8 ай бұрын
Any feeding issues with these magazines?
@Gator69420
2 ай бұрын
Anyone notice their brass slightly dented after loading and unloading the mag a few times ?
@godsdozer
Жыл бұрын
Just got my pistol today, yep, I cant get the 13th round in there by hand.
@terragrappler1
8 ай бұрын
I can the 13th rnd in but have to slam the piss out of the mag to get it to lock in the gun.any of yall had this happen also?
@steveh5307
2 жыл бұрын
The metal tab on my Uplula is bending because of so much force and it still won't go. I've given up at this point. I'm just loading 12 and hoping it loosens up at some point. I can load 13 in one of my 13rd mags, but it's so tight that racking the slide on closed slide takes a lot of force. If I go 13+1, it sometimes jams after the 1 in the chamber is fired. What a horrible design. I carry a Gen 1 Shield and have been for the past 5 years. I got over 7k rounds through it. Works great and so I thought I'd buy this Shield Plus but it's nothing but problems. I'm not carrying this thing, ever.
@steveh5307
Жыл бұрын
@@MakeAndFixItYourSelfProjects Another mag loosened up so now I'm up to 2 out of 4. I think it's gonna eventually loosen up if I keep using it. I'll try the slamming on the table a few times like you said. Maybe it'll be enough to pop the obstruction. I so want to carry this gun but not until I can get all mags reliably loading and feeding.
@warrenclauss3425
4 ай бұрын
Video on u-tube what the proble is and how to fix it
@jaimesalazar6184
Жыл бұрын
Even racking it with a full 13 mag is incredibly hard. Anyone else having this issue?
@ghostwrench2292
Жыл бұрын
My issue is loading a full 13 round magazine into the gun. I have to give it a firm smack on the bottom for it to latch. Racking the slide after that seems OK for me.
@athuddriver
2 жыл бұрын
I've had the same problem and heard the same POP to get the 13th round in. What is interesting is that my 13 round mag doesn't lock when I manually pull the slide back but always locks during firing and reaching empty. Ordered a Shield Plus Performance Center for my wife and my 13 round mag also doesn't lock back when manually slid back but her 13 round mag works perfectly in my pistol. Go figure.
@sickshotsnipers
Жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out anymore information on this? Just received my performance center shield plus today and it doesn’t eject the 13rd mag very well or at all sometimes and it needs help coming out but the 10rd works as intended.. any info would be awesome! Thanks for your time
@sickshotsnipers
Жыл бұрын
Haven’t tried loading it yet because I was already having an issue with that and wanted to see what’s up online about it firsy
@athuddriver
Жыл бұрын
@@sickshotsnipers This is a pretty good video on the subject and why it happens. kzitem.info/news/bejne/kX9szXaVjmidooI
@sickshotsnipers
Жыл бұрын
@@athuddriver much appreciated!! Hope you have an awesome rest of your day!
@dustincrum4104
2 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchase the Mag loader? Thank you!
@hawkgrunt4182
2 жыл бұрын
Midway USA
@hawkgrunt4182
2 жыл бұрын
How do you disassemble these magazines??
@joemercado9664
2 жыл бұрын
Screw driver wedged then pry appart, slides right off I used a kitchen knive
@flyingash
2 жыл бұрын
Took apart mine once now the baseplate falls off by itself and all the mag guts go everywhere.
@hawkgrunt4182
2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingash that's blows. I don't take mine apart because of that reason, thanks.
@steveh5307
2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingash you didn't reassemble correctly. You didn't catch the tabs on the the mag body into the baseplate groove correctly.
@steveh5307
2 жыл бұрын
@@hawkgrunt4182 No, no, you can take it apart all day every day and twice on sundays. Don't listen to that guy. His last name says it all.
@513Headstrong
2 жыл бұрын
I think the follower isn't seated properly.
@jimc3705
2 жыл бұрын
took my 10 round magazine apart today and found out the spring was not looped into the follower... so the spring just bunches up until you push so hard that it receipts the spring around the follower
@jimc3705
2 жыл бұрын
and I was not too keen using the loader to push so hard. shouldn't have to
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
2 жыл бұрын
Maglula will solve the problem
@steveh5307
2 жыл бұрын
It does not. The tab flexes under so much force and doesn't drive it down.
@BrandensOutdoorChannel
2 жыл бұрын
@@steveh5307 It works fine. I have the Shield Plus 13 rounders, Video on my channel with Holosun EPS Carry and Shield Plus with two 13 round mags loaded.
@ryetim32
Жыл бұрын
I could hardly get 12 in
@tiii4019
2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the loader
@JasonPiepmeier
2 жыл бұрын
UpLULA
@skitzdaniel3314
2 жыл бұрын
Your kind of crazy man. Lucky they didn't go off in your hand. Good for you. But not what I would like to try.
@philiplacher3396
Жыл бұрын
Watch this to fix the problem. It’s an issue with the follower and the spring seating improperly. kzitem.info/news/bejne/kX9szXaVjmidooI
@millerman3382
Жыл бұрын
Yes, to everyone still watching or coming across this video. There is a nice fix that works great from this kzitem.info/news/bejne/kX9szXaVjmidooI
@robertwaters4365
Жыл бұрын
Buy a magpul loader
@robertwoerner20
Жыл бұрын
Here is the fix for it. Did all of mine tonight works perfectly now. kzitem.info/news/bejne/kX9szXaVjmidooI
@millerman3382
Жыл бұрын
Took me a while to see your comment and watch the video. Just did this to 2 of my 13rd mags today - works like a charm. Still tight squeeze but you can definitely fit the 13rd in, even by hand if you up for the challenge. This IS the fix, thanks for posting.
@robertwoerner20
Жыл бұрын
@@millerman3382 S&W needs to watch it also. Love love love the shield plus except the damn 13 rd mags
@millerman3382
Жыл бұрын
@@robertwoerner20 Wish S&W would see this and fix it. Also, another issue pops up on these mags if you actually use them/drop them for reloads - the extended base spacer will crack in the middle very easily & consistently.
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