Don’t forget all you SHOPSMITH owners. It’s FREESHIPPING til midnight tonight on all ShopSmith parts, pieces and things you want/need. Ends tonight!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Good point. I’ve pinned your comment. Scott
@jonepps8631
Жыл бұрын
Scott, you are frequently apologetic about videos that turn out less than your expectations. I for one appreciate when you show when things are more challenging than you had anticipated. 1,2,3 clean edited step by step is rarely how it goes in real life. The amount of information and the clarity in which it is presented along with the humor, is in my opinion, unrivaled. Thank you for all you do.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jon.
@patrickpfundstein1122
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right, Jon!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you, @@patrickpfundstein1122
@nylandhagar9944
Жыл бұрын
Could not have said it better!!!
@johnoerter2883
Жыл бұрын
I agree, Jon!
@drumaganger
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't have Power Stations. I have Power Stands. When I mounted the Bandsaw onto the Power Stand, I had to lower the motor in order to install the belt. It was a pain. I have never been a fan of link belts. IMHO, the belt is only as strong as the weakest link and with a link belt, there are dozens of “weakest links”. At the very least, you can take the old belt to an auto parts store and get a close facsimile to the original. I’m a true believer in using OEM and the Shopsmith belt is $13.83 so for the two belts, it will cost you less than $35.00 to get two of them delivered to your door. I have one spare belt for all of my machines and I inspect the belts when I do my preventative maintenance and replace as necessary. It's pretty cheap insurance. If you don’t schedule your maintenance, your maintenance will schedule you.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
You certainly won’t catch me arguing against using OEM belts, but I have been using Link belts for about 40 years now, and have never had a single failure. I might be lucky, but I don’t think so. They’ve been used in industry for years and I love how smoothly they run. Scott.
@markbeiser
Жыл бұрын
Both of my Power Stands had been sitting unused for an unknown period of time before I got them, but likely more than a decade. All of the belts had a serious set to them, so were causing significant vibration of the machines. Just replacing them with new belts solved all of the issues I found objectionable. I suspect there are a lot of these machines out that that have a similar problem.
@johnoerter2883
Жыл бұрын
Yup, same here
@dannyc6166
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my time with a mini bike with a centrifugal clutch & a belt. Looks like this mechanism is similar. Caught my pants leg in the clutch/belt a couple of times. It was the 70’s & Evel Kenivel was my hero just to give you the mindset of a 12 year old kid. Safety was always the second thought. Now I’m a safety fanatic with power tools. Thanks for bringing up the memories Scott!!!!!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
I have those same memories. Evel Knievel was amazing.
@dannyc6166
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings I have an Evel Kenivel stunt cycle, the best toy ever made in my opinion😉
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@dannyc6166 I was disappointed with mine. I preferred my SSP cars
@dannyc6166
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings I was into that also, but what could be better than Evil Kenivel in the white jump suit, hitting the ramp flipping in the air, lands on the tire’s almost every time!!!!😉
@jthornca
Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always Scott. I think I chuckled more during this video than any of your others, although the "Thank you Shopsmith for the Flat Head screws" was my favorite comment. Heavens knows I have said that myself multiple times.
@johnhoshock9034
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scott for another great video. I enjoyed seeing how the variable speed system operates. Last year I covered my entire 20' x 20' shop floor with 3/4" rubber horse stall mats and it has been one of the best improvements I ever made. Less noise, warmer in the winter, don't have to worry about breaking things when I drop tools or projects and best of all my 70 year-old knees are much happier.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
John, I’ve looked at those at Tractor Supply several times and have considered that very thing. Did you cover every square inch or just in spaces between tools?
@johnhoshock9034
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings Yes I covered the entire floor, Scott. I priced them at several other farm stores but ended up at my local TSC after it was all said & done.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@johnhoshock9034 Can you still roll your tools around?
@johnhoshock9034
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings Yes I can but they don't roll as well (obviously) as they did on the bare concrete. I have been tempted to try the larger diameter casters on some of my more commonly moved tools like the pro-planer and overhead router table. To me it's just a small price to pay for all the benefits provided.
@jamespierson4324
Жыл бұрын
John, it’s been a couple of weeks since this viewed so I hope you see this and reply. I have a shop approximately the size you have. How does the Shopsmith roll over the horse stall mats when using using it’s casters?
@Bonjour-World
Жыл бұрын
I have always wondered how the Shopsmith variable speed transmission worked. Thank thee :-)
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
This one is different than what’s inside a Mark V, but it is similar. I did a video on this topic that might be interesting: Nerd-Level Shopsmith Speed Control Evolution (You probably don't need to watch this!) kzitem.info/news/bejne/o6SQvqSKmKN5n3o
@Bonjour-World
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings I watched that and it was very informative. I used to ride motor scooters that had belt drive CTV's (they operate via centrifugal weights).
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@Bonjour-World Very similar!
@mikeg6418
Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your video. I want to try putting the Mark V on the anti-fatigue mat. I've always kept it off of the matt in the past. Thanks for the update.
@kevinr1704
Жыл бұрын
That variable speed pulley setup is the same on a lot of riding lawn mowers. Pretty smart invention.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
You are correct, Kevin. One of the companies that predicted the Shopsmith line over 60 years ago also made garden tools like mowers and tillers, and there was some technology that was being explored by everyone in the business back then. In fact, the Shopsmith Speed Increaser uses a friction drive that was also used on early self-propelled lawnmowers.
@annemcdonley5983
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, you keep teaching me things that I've never thought of. Thank you so much!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
You are very kind, Anne.
@danasmith8950
Жыл бұрын
Great video. We’re all learning together, right? Lets just hope no egos were harmed in the making of this video. 😁
@goodoledave723
Жыл бұрын
Ahh, quality time with your tools!
@stased7343
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Am I wrong, or after the link belt was installed did the machine run quieter? Thanks for helping me not feel like a klutz when I am taking things apart and having similar issues as yours. I look forward to the next video!!!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
You aren't wrong. It was much quieter.
@bobwebberkc
Жыл бұрын
If you keep this up visits to the Chiropractor are in your future! The patent drawings were great thank you for the research! By the way there is a free apps for the iPod or iPhone that measure db levels and another that measures vibration levels at discrete frequencies! I use these all the time. What a Maroon! 😂
@sassafrasvalley1939
Жыл бұрын
Scott… replaced the belt on my Delta jointer with a link-belt. It runs smoother and quieter. It has been on the here ?maybe? 10 yrs. I think they have an advantage on smaller pulleys in that they don’t get stiff and crack as they age.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Exactly right.
@johnoerter2883
Жыл бұрын
Yuy, my experience also
@jamespowell9757
Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but I'm a bit confused...were the original belts worn out? or was it a theory that the original belts caused the excessive noise and vibration? What happened to your previous recommendation about using only Shopsmith replacement belts? On the viewer's end, can we judge improvement in noise-doesn't Scott's recording technique reduce noise ? Scott would be the best observer to judge changes in noise and vibration. I thought I heard a ticking noise at slowest speed. Scott did you heard any peculiar noises? Were they caused by the smaller link belt? You were able to just pull off the pulleys, weren't they secured in any way? The anti fatigue matt is a great idea! I typically stand on one(they do make a difference!), but never considered resting the machines on one. Also a cheap shot-what about maintenance- you specifically mentioned oiling the motor...looks like another video is needed. I always look forward to new videos!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Jim, that cheap shot was well deserved!
@woodshopnerdery
Жыл бұрын
Interesting investigation. I guess I never noticed noise from my Power Station, but them again I'm always wearing my 3M Worktunes.
@edmalin7359
Жыл бұрын
Didn't think it would ever be worthwhile putting the effort in to get my Work Station in good working order. The results you found from putting the machine on an anti-fatigue mat are starting to change my mind on the subject. Starting to, but not all the way. The motor positioning method is still a problem maybe. It might give you headaches when the link belt stretches quickly at first, then more slowly until it finally gets long enough to remove a link and suddenly it's much shorter. That's could be a lot of motor adjustment to deal with to maintain the tension. Also have to go see if I have those rubber feet. Wonder if I could make some out of anti-fatigue mat material if they are missing.
@davidmeissner9079
Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Nice try with the link belt. I have a power stand for my SS jointer and use a link belt with the motor I bought for it and it works a treat but its a fixed speed. I'd worry about the wear using a link belt it on a variable speed drive.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is a bit of an experiment for me too. We’ll see if it has any benefits.
@patrickpfundstein1122
Жыл бұрын
Others covered most of my questions/comments, but I was curious if the motor did turn out to be unevenly mounted (which would be likely to cause pulley alignment/noise issues)? Love these deep dives into the mechanisms including the patent drawings!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
It’s certainly could be a contributing factor.
@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852
Жыл бұрын
That's waht I believe to be the issu. Only Scott will be able to confirm.
@bocfus72
Жыл бұрын
I still think a lot of the noise came from the cover vibrating!!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@bocfus72 Some did.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@bocfus72 The noise was joined with substantial vibration of the entire machine. I’ve experienced these belt covers rattling and that isn’t what I was experiencing.
@timgrede6845
Жыл бұрын
I hope you are considering some sort of crane system. We all get older and it is something that protects our bodies and can keep us in the shop longer. As simple as a uni-strut track system or something more complicated.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
What Tim, did you not see me practicing the proper “lift with your back” form? Yeah, I seem to learn new limitations every week! Scott
@timgrede6845
Жыл бұрын
It is those odd size lighter objects (under 75lbs or so) that in our younger days were not a good idea then also, that get us. It is those little injuries that can prevent us in the shop long term. I am one that got put in a wheelchair from many small injuries that added up to a long term mobility disability after 50. I am also recommending overhead lifting for people in their 20's so they are not crippled up in their 50's. The options are inexpensive using a chin hoist and under 800lbs and a uni-strut is under 200USD. It is just preventive,
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@timgrede6845 I’ll look into it. Thanks for the concern.
@mikelilly3855
Жыл бұрын
Scott, I would like to know about safely and efficiently cutting rip bevel cutting on the table saw. Manuals have very little in the way of setup, tips, etc. Was hoping you could help. Thanks
@MrMarkpeggy
Жыл бұрын
Well bless your heart Scott. Thanks for keeping it real. I always learn something from your videos. Dag nabbit 🤭
@petercrizer6102
Жыл бұрын
Fun video! 'Learn by other's mistakes . . .' (w/ love) . . . Would anything be gained by putting rubber buffers between all of the metal parts? (think 'crubber') and creating a kind of isolation mounting for it all ? Or better to just make sure all your screws and bolts are tight and not vibrating? (thread-loc on all of them?)
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
I think either of those options would be wise. I think if you put something rubber between every metal to metal connection, you would probably introduce some flexing, so the idea of using Loctite makes more sense to me. Scott
@nylandhagar9944
Жыл бұрын
Another great and informative video! I learn something from everyone one, commenters included! on the anti-fatigue mats, would you do the same with placing the mats under the Mark V or would that cause issues with some/all of its functions?
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
I have and it works well. When I was an academy instructor I used to set my Mark V on a 3X6 anti-fatigue mat, which left the perfect amount of mat for me to stand.
@BadAppleWoodwerx
Жыл бұрын
Interesting info. I only wish you'd stand off to the side when trying experiments like that linked belt that you knew was too narrow. The whole time I kept praying nothing flew off at your face. 😳
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
You should see the stupid stuff I do that I edit out!
@toddharshbarger8616
Жыл бұрын
I always want to trade out all the flat head screws for torx or other than flathead screws
@steveparmelee4871
Жыл бұрын
Once you get the proper width belt, can you use the removed Shopsmith belt to set the length of the link belt?
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
It’s a starting point, but since the link belts stretch a bit as they settle in you typically start them a little tight and you may even have to remove a link later on.
@clyderenner3688
Жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Markwood, enjoyed the video. Also enjoy you including your struggles as we all have them. It’s not a perfect world. Also did you say “what a maroon”? Is that a South Carolina word? Colorful!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
It’s a Foghorn Leghorn quote.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
No, wait, it was Bugs Bunny.
@clyderenner3688
Жыл бұрын
Foghorn Leghorn is my favorite! But wait ,Bugs Bunny is my favorite! Lol
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@clyderenner3688 it’s hard to beat any character who was voiced by Mel Blanc.
@ryandellova2753
Жыл бұрын
Scott love the fatigue mat idea!! I'm attempting to restore my first shopsmith power station. The shaft was so rusted the pulleys wouldn't even spin. Got everything put back together and clean my only issue is the speed control knob only allows me to lift it to between 3 and 4. Any advice? Thanks!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Was the rack moving over its full range when the belts were off? If so, any chance that you have the wrong belt size on? If not, your motor, maybe too low on the mounting studs. Good luck! Scott
@ryandellova2753
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings spent 3 weeks of fiddling with this thing just to have my problem solved within a couple of hours. Mounting side of motor was more than an inch lower. Can't believe i didnt notice sooner Thank you so much sir. Happy Holidays!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@ryandellova2753 You are welcome and happy to help.
@thebeggarswoodshop8756
Жыл бұрын
"Well all the jokes can't be good, you have to expect that once in a while." -Groucho Marxs. Did Shopsmith ever have some kind of rubber feet/pad for the Mark V/VII? I'm doing a big big clean up on my greenie and noticed how rough the bottom was.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Hey Drew, no, I’m not aware of them ever having any kind of a foot on the Mark V. Shopsmith Inc used to sell a 3’ x 6’ anti-fatigue mat that I always placed my Mark V on during training sessions in the Academy, for the same reasons that I used it here with a Crafter’s Station.
@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852
Жыл бұрын
crafters station has belt and pulley alignment issue.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
It sure did. It really would’ve been nice if they had used, turned aluminum or cast iron for the pulleys rather than the stamped steel.
@clyderenner3688
Жыл бұрын
Is that issue in the design, or in Mr. Markwoods machine alone?
@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852
Жыл бұрын
@@clyderenner3688 I think it is with Scott's machine. He needs to check the belts and pulles on the crafters station. You did notice how much quieter the power station was, yes?
@OpossumPiper
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that’s what I was hearing too. It seems like the motor pulley is out of alignment and putting extra stress on the rest of the system. I do really appreciate seeing that Scott is human and struggles like the rest of us when diagnosing and servicing our equipment!!! 😂
@StevenG1955
Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott. You mentioned the Power Station need oil/grease after 50 hours. I have a PS but not sure where I lubricate it.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
On the two ends of the motor, there are plastic plugs that need to be removed and you add oil at those locations. The owners manual give a brief description, but isn’t very helpful. I will get into this is my next video.
@StevenG1955
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings Thank you, Scott.
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@StevenG1955 You are welcome.
@gregwilsonnaturephotography
Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, do you have a video of attaching the band saw to a work station. I have both and never tried it. It's a long story why..... i just found your channel it fantastic! Greg
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that I follow what you mean by attaching it to a workstation.
@gregwilsonnaturephotography
Жыл бұрын
Scott, which hole do you use to support the band saw and what coupler from the band saw to the drive spindle? I have only used the band saw on my Mark 510 like 20 years ago. I bought a jointer, planer, and shop smith compressor all with power stations for $300.00 and would like to get the all running. Greg
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@gregwilsonnaturephotography Now I understand. You use the lower two holes, which should a line the shafts.
@gregwilsonnaturephotography
Жыл бұрын
Scott, would you then use the same coupler that is used with the 510? I found in one of your videos that had the link from Shopsmith. Thanks so much for your help. Greg
@billmclaughlin8438
Жыл бұрын
Since the lower pulley cover is missing a vibration pad, are there vibration pads where the legs join the the tool base that are also missing?
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Bill, you’d think so, but no. The pads near the top, or enough to keep the cover away from the legs entirely. Unfortunately, those pads don’t explain the vibration that I was experiencing, but it sure makes sense to replace them. Scott
@bocfus72
Жыл бұрын
So would those link belts work in place of the v belt on the mark v’s and up?? I know it won’t work for the gilmer belt just curious about the v belt!!
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it could be used on a mechanical Mark V headstock (not the PowerPro).
@woodshopnerdery
Жыл бұрын
Could you make new feet using Plasti Dip?
@jamespowell9757
Жыл бұрын
Being a cheapskate, I "make" rubber feet from old bicycle inner tubes. They fit any thing and the thickness can be adjusted by stretching or loosening them...I have them on all my stands (which were missing the manufacturer's rubber feet) and have had no issues. I typically wear ear protection so noise isn't an issue. I'm sure the rubber inner tubes could be used to replace missing cushions.
@davidj.kester7979
Жыл бұрын
i have seen you do thez butt i ges i was not in to it lol im thinking i would like a Shopsmith Crafter's Station. hmm my small room would get biger is the way i see it lol i bet $ wtys i need to just keep bying the older shopsmith win i find them
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you'll have one eventually.
@bigsusan666
11 ай бұрын
Oh Mr.shopsmith please help me understand whats happening with my crafters station. The belts (shopsmith brand) look okay and the machine operates seemingly fine but even at the highest speed the belt does not get enough tension to operate an attachment. I can put them on my mark5 and the atyachments work fine. Is this just a belt issue? I dont think the motor needs to be adjusted. Any sage advice?
@MyGrowthRings
11 ай бұрын
I hear what you are saying, but if it is losing speed, the motor needs to be adjusted. That's how you adjust the tension.
@bigsusan666
11 ай бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings thanks you so much. I will try this soon.
@TheTunnellTake
Жыл бұрын
Do you buy subscribers?
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
Buy?
@TheTunnellTake
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings yes
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
@@TheTunnellTake Uh, no. Who does that?
@MyGrowthRings
Жыл бұрын
And what good would that do anyone? As far as Google Ad share, it’s all about views, not subs.
@TheTunnellTake
Жыл бұрын
@@MyGrowthRings it's just a question. And the next question is do you buy likes or views?
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