Guys, you once made a video about everything ben can and can’t turn into, and you also made a video about venom in the omnitrix, and one about goku. Can you go more in depth with this topic? You said flash’s dna was changed enough to the point he can be put in the omnitrix, so does that mean spider-man can be the same situation? What about hulk, what if Ben became hulk, but then became calm, and not angry, what would happen? And ghost rider too, and sooooo much more
@shadowfreak5859
3 жыл бұрын
Since I can't be sure if my comment will get buried soon, I'm putting my name suggestion for the car as "Buttercup" since The Princess Bride was Kevin's fav fairy tale.
@DragonspineInfiniteZero
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find it weird that tom from toonami never cameoed or made a appearence in ben 10? i mean alien force did debue and are on adult swim/toonami and steve blum is a ben 10 regular. this was when tom was stuck on that planet after his second encounter with THE intruder wasnt it?
@rafaelconstantino9736
3 жыл бұрын
I mean... it would be interesting to see, Ben would be serious but not super serious (Like the Ultimate Kevin Arc) for the rest of the Alien force and foward.
@phenixgoku11
3 жыл бұрын
@@markherrera7640 if Ben turned into hulk it would be like rath
@thiennhannguyen2550
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin saying Tennyson names rhyme while his father name was Devin, he is Kevin and his son is Devlin. And they all have the family name Levin, I mean that just rhymes on another level to Ken and Gwen
@officialasa
3 жыл бұрын
lol to be fair, at that point he wouldn’t have been aware of his future son’s name, but the other stuff is bad enough on its own lmao
@thiennhannguyen2550
3 жыл бұрын
@@officialasa yeah I know that he only get to know about his dad and son way later on, but how about looking at his name, His name is Kevin Levin, his other persona is Kevin eleven, so it has always rhymed
@joecormons5528
3 жыл бұрын
His middle name is also ethan Kevin E Levin
@yzxz9012
3 жыл бұрын
Where he has a son? 😳
@kirannkornat7761
3 жыл бұрын
Devlin doesn’t rhyme It just has similar letters
@GenerationWest
3 жыл бұрын
Now thinking about it, yeah, Ken appeared out of nowhere, and disappeared as quickly as he arrived, like... Ben is more like Gwen's brother than Ken is to the audience. About Max's possible death, you know what I would add to it, he never dies, but he loses his arm instead, and see the origin of his replacement arm we see in the future, and through the franchise, we see it change and progress.
@infinitypercival5958
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would've gone with Ben's dad Carl being captured instead of Ken for reasons I don't think I really need to explain.
@ciarangleeson2880
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe Carl would have been a better option than Ken. That could have been a main timeline substitute for ‘Goodbye And Good Riddance’.
@StupidWeb
3 жыл бұрын
@@ciarangleeson2880 yeah but then we don't get 'Grounded' next season
@infinitypercival5958
3 жыл бұрын
@@StupidWeb Eh, not really. It wouldn't be completely the same but I could still see it as the episode that comes right after Max Out.
@EthanMallonee
3 жыл бұрын
This 👆👆
@SamLabbato
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they handled max's "death" scene so well, that when it's revealed he's not dead later, it doesn't seem like an afterthought retcon. I mean, sure it's cheesy, but I think it still works. The main thing was they just needed to get rid of max so that ben would be forced to go through his leadership arc, plus, the null void implosion is just a really cool set piece and makes a ton of sense from what we know from classic.
@MarshallLeeA
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and being a "Null Void" weapon it already gives it away, enforced by the future episode "Plumber's Helpers" where Manny and Helen thought their projector was a weapon instead of just a teleporter.
@joshuahecht6866
3 жыл бұрын
And that Ken would be a permanent part of Alien Force out of guilt.
@albedo5455
3 жыл бұрын
Problem being that the Highbreed just let's Max use the projector lmao
@ardzzz1010
3 жыл бұрын
@@albedo5455 I think the Highbreed thought that Max was bluffing about blowing them up. It makes sense since the Highbreeds are very inferior to other race that they also thinks that "yeah, this creature is stupid, does he really think he had the guts to blow up this whole facility with himself" something like that.
@GreaterGrievobeast55
3 жыл бұрын
@@ardzzz1010 if that’s the case then he would’ve reached for the device immediately, or just torn max’s arm off
@StanHanrahan
3 жыл бұрын
damn Ben losing Max, and Ben losing feedback.. those scenes hit hard
@gurubhaktmohit
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he got both of the back. Feedback's return had a whole arc tho.
@axelnilsson5124
2 жыл бұрын
@@gurubhaktmohit and we didn’t know about it until the season 2 finale
@meisnewperson
2 жыл бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 what a way to end it.... man
@plantainsame2049
2 жыл бұрын
@@gurubhaktmohit well he also spends most of his life fighting aliens with only like 15 years - like 2 for classic/omniverse flashback era
@TheCrazyStudio-ou3dj
7 ай бұрын
You think
@Greenthing-zk5tn
3 жыл бұрын
We'll never know why a celestialsapien decided to delete Ken after this episode.
@springmushroom9214
3 жыл бұрын
He was too boring so they sent him to the void
@hamburg4034
3 жыл бұрын
They forgor 💀
@Chimerathedragon
3 жыл бұрын
Well Ben tried to make a copy but probably made Ken another cousin of his, maybe he's Anodite now who knows
@ciarangleeson2880
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Ken should have appeared in more than one episode. Sunny too. In fact, I personally think that everyone in the Tennyson family should have had a decent amount of screen time.
@themanofsteel7385
3 жыл бұрын
He is in limbo. Forever
@Kid_Spitfire
3 жыл бұрын
Actually Gwen's Brother doesn't entirely come out of nowhere in the Ben 10 classic episode "Lucky Girl" there's some pop-up trivia that says "Gwen has an older brother named Ken that Ben worships" and in the episode "Perfect Day" there's another pop-up that says "Grandpa Max's lucky Hawaiian shirt was given to him by Gwen's older brother Ken" so it seems like it was somewhat intended for Ken to contribute more to the story it's just a shame more was not done with him though.
@33pandagamer
2 жыл бұрын
It still kinda comes out of nowhere. The pop-up trivia was made after the fact. You are right though, it does seem like he was supposed to be more important.
@emanuelrojas2
2 жыл бұрын
I have a small head canon that he’s trying to join the plumbers and he’s kind of struggling.
@Squishito
2 жыл бұрын
The pop up trivia was made specifically to hype up the airing of Alien Force, the pop up versions of the classic episodes aired literally right before it in a marathon. I remember because I watched the marathon event thing for Alien Force at the time. Those were written when season 1 of Alien Force was already done and ready to begin airing. Those trivia things included a bunch of Alien Force stuff because I assume Man of Action was trying to make all the thrown together AF bullshit seem less out of nowhere but it doesn't really work because Alien Force still ends up feeling like a bizarre retconned reboot with the amount of stuff that was pointlessly changed or done incorrectly. Originally Gwen definitely was not supposed to have a brother. He was a completely pointless addition made by the people who made Alien Force who does literally nothing and immediately disappears and was never planned lol. It was extra insulting to me as a fan that they claimed that this literally nothing character gave Max his legendary shirt (that he wears all the time and has multiple of...), just to try and make him seem important somehow.
@levievil9220
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I thought max’s shirt was a gift from both Ben and Gwen the only time they agreed beforehand and max went like alright plus hey it’s stylish
@LucyWest370
Ай бұрын
@@emanuelrojas2i like to think hes just in college or something
@pzb1017
3 жыл бұрын
The name of Kevin’s car should be “The Alien Enforcer.”
@failmeep5167
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone would call it Kevin's car still
@GreaterGrievobeast55
3 жыл бұрын
No way kevins given his car that name, sounds like something ben would try and tac onto it
@jakisrandomzpolski
3 жыл бұрын
the ALIEN enFORCEr Secret alien force in the name
@somecitrus7561
3 жыл бұрын
Shit, can't beat that, nice one
@ElecTrick11037
3 жыл бұрын
Genius
@darkspine1037
3 жыл бұрын
The hatchery in this is episode is actually for fish, not chickens, which is why there's so much water around. That matches slightly more with the tentacle/aquatic style of the DNAliens' hatching ground being situated there.
@KraylebStudios
2 жыл бұрын
It's not for chickens if you're a coward
@NoESanity
2 жыл бұрын
@@KraylebStudios or you enjoy chicken.
@ghostspider2056
3 жыл бұрын
I kind of figured he was sent onto the Null Void, but I at least expected it be the moment when Max loses his arm and get his robotic one as we saw in the future.
@andresreynoso7254
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, how did he get his robotic arm again?
@ynot482
3 жыл бұрын
@@andresreynoso7254 never explained iirc
@ghostspider2056
3 жыл бұрын
It’s never find out, all we get is “A lot can happen in 30 years”. The version from the No Watch Timeline stated he lost his arm because of Vilgax.
@horseoperamarker
3 жыл бұрын
@@andresreynoso7254 I think it's in 2017 a bit before ben starts calling himself "Ben 10,000"
@TheCrunkulous
3 жыл бұрын
@@andresreynoso7254 In the original series Pop-Up Trivia, it's said that Max lost his arm in the "Limax Wars of 2017" (The shapeshifting slime guys from Permanent Retirement). While they're not my favourite villains in the series, I think it would've been cool if the Limax returned, considering they were teased to still be alive at the end of the episode.
@gabriellockwood2780
2 жыл бұрын
Grandpa Max's Respect: - "I always knew you could do it, Ben." - "You too, Kevin." - *Acknowledges Ken is there - Gwen: "and Max ignored me."
@KraylebStudios
3 ай бұрын
"I can't believe he's done this"
@Trickward
3 жыл бұрын
The most important point of a character death in fiction should always be how it affects the people around them, not whether or not they stay dead. Max's death isn't undermined when he comes back because Ben has gone through the development that he needs to go through. Had Max returned before the end of season 1 I think I'd be saying something different but that's not what happened
@TyRendition
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly in s2 ben becomes so much more confident in his abilities even shown in the episode where grandpa max is shown to be alive.
@logkmusic5877
2 жыл бұрын
@@TyRendition the way he commands the resistance side by side Max in that episode shows his growth. And how he didn’t revert to who he was. A part of him that still wants his Grandpa is shown in the end, but he’s grown up to understand he has to do it.
@fightingmedialounge519
2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. The most important apsect of a characters death is the precedent it sets for the series . Such as a character death marking a tonal change, or bringing back after their death establishing major characters won't stay dead.
@Luke-fu5co
3 жыл бұрын
I rag on the inconsistencies of Gwens powers in this show, and i doubt it was intentional but the fact that Gwen's force field could prevent them from also being pulled into the null void is consistent with how the people who worshipped Dagon couldnt teleport through her shields because her powers can function through multiple dimensions so i gotta give them credit for that🤣
@jackbaccarat4084
3 жыл бұрын
I think max coming back doesn't undo anything. Unlike most shows that kill off a character only to bring them back, they bring them back during the either the next two or three episodes later or within the same season. Max was inactive for a long enough amount of time. This gives Ben enough time for the lesson to sink in to his core character and does give that big shock for the audience, disregarding the spoiler the teasers gave. But it would have been more believable if Max got some battle damge due to the explosion.
@HiperPivociarz
3 жыл бұрын
Revelation killed Adam off for only 3 episodes, but I think that's understandable, since the whole show lasts only 10. And a big amount of time passes from the time he dies.
@HiperPivociarz
3 жыл бұрын
@Blazedboy Dude, you are a genius! That way even tho he comes back, there is a price to pay. He forever lost something. He did say Limax wars, but you could probably make up some excuse. Maybe he thought telling her the future events would change the future.
@fightingmedialounge519
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, max also came back after a couple of episodes.
@georges2842
3 жыл бұрын
1) If Kevin had named his car, I could see him calling it the "Greenliner," since it's green and he's constantly hitting the redline with it. 2) I've had this idea for a while: If they ever made a new continuation of Ben Prime's story, Charmcaster should get a redemption episode which Ken is pivotal in. Here's my basic breakdown: Charmcaster tries to escape from someone/something, but messes up the transport spell or gets injured, resulting in her forgetting everything except that her name is Hope, Ken finds her and, being the kind soul he is, nurses her back to health and tries to help her regain her memories. A road tripping Team Tennyson (Ben, Gwen, Kai, Kevin, and Zed) decide to go to Ken's college graduation, only to find out he's basically been living with his sister's mortal enemy for at least a month. When Hope's not in the room, the team tries to tell Ken about Charmcaster's checkered past, but he doesn't believe them. Ken gets kidnapped by (insert villain who has bad blood with Charmcaster), the team plus Hope tracks him down, Hope suffers enough stress to revive her memories, but Ken admits he has feelings for her, and she chooses to give up villainy for him. Ken gets a girl, Chatmcaster gets to be more than the anti-Gwen, and Gwen gets her own foe turned friend turned eventual in-law. 3) If Kevin absorbed glass, would his body turn clear, or would he just get a layer of glass covering his body?
@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257
2 жыл бұрын
I love that idea. It would give Ken more attention as well as give a proper conclusion to CharmCasters story.
@spacetacos7574
2 жыл бұрын
The Kevin car would have to be named the kevinertible
@fightingmedialounge519
2 жыл бұрын
A bit random to use Ken, and a little tosy for charmcasterin terms of villain turn arounds.
@levievil9220
Ай бұрын
@@fightingmedialounge519how about that terrapin wizard we see he fits as a villain that wants revenge
@PleasantlyEmpathic9924
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Kevin's car was called "The Ride", because that's what everyone always calls it 😅 Kevin: *Get your paws **_off_** my Ride* Gwen: *Kevin's car- Oh, sorry his "Ride"*
@Medbread
3 жыл бұрын
But he often does say "My car!"
@snowboundwhale6860
3 жыл бұрын
There's a part of me that suspects Kevin did name his car, did so before AF starts, but the reason we never hear about it is because he couldn't possibly admit anyone he meets during the series to having named it "Gwen". He is already crushing on her by episode 1, and the car's the other most notable entity he's consistently affectionate towards.
@Champsr0ck2247
6 ай бұрын
Coupled with the "You have to treat a car like you treat a woman" and Omniverse adding that they were crushing on the other as kids, this sounds true
@Alphaanims
3 жыл бұрын
You know, I actually kinda hoped that grandpa max would lose his arm in the blast and get it replaced with a robotic prosthetic we saw him having in future Ben episodes
@darealkay7517
3 жыл бұрын
That's actually quite clever
@Riley_suv
3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@YES-ol7el
3 жыл бұрын
It’s weird that UAF have no connection to Omniverse or Future Timelines
@Aaroncorn_chaoticmind.
3 жыл бұрын
Would have explained a couple of the future ben episodes.
@Riley_suv
3 жыл бұрын
@@YES-ol7el What about Ultimate Ben.
@miguelbianchi968
3 жыл бұрын
As I recall, Kevin said that ID Masks were photon shift masks, meaning they don't change shape, they change the way photons behave (somehow), and I imagine when a mask out of the wearer's face, it's still shifting light, so it appears to have a rubber texture. This may also be the reason the mask fails when there are lightnings in place I'm Brazilian, so I saw the dubbing in Portuguese, so maybe this isn't necessary, but I believe it's right
@fallen5983
2 жыл бұрын
my problem with that explanation is how they still clearly do change the shape of the wearer, like when ben used one to look like a dnalien, if it just made him look taller instead of actually make him taller he wouldnt have to look down at kevin to see him, and if they didnt change shape then itd be pretty easy to find out someones wearing one if it just gives them a different appearance because their original shape is still there. for example if an alien with a tail put one on to look like something without one, their tail would still exist, and theyd have to worry about not hitting anything with it. while we dont see anything like that we do see the masks seemingly change someones proportions, so the same thing applies there
@deuslouis7030
2 жыл бұрын
@@fallen5983 I mean there also exists the concept of hard-light constructs. Like what the green lanterns make or the bodies of the crystal gems in Steven universe. It is light but it is also some what solid so that can possibly explain why the change is kinda physical even if it is light-based.
@toe_sucker_4165
Жыл бұрын
Oh, like a holographic funhouse mirror?
@certainlysomeonehere4975
Жыл бұрын
That makes sense though , and explains why they become visible as DNA aliens with lightning strikes.
@itstherealbrace6424
9 ай бұрын
@@deuslouis7030 hard-light constructs also Canonically exist in the Ben 10 universe, that's what Tetrax's hoverboard is made of
@VaultN95
3 жыл бұрын
I wish Max would meet Phil in the null void. That would make for a great character interaction and maybe Phil would even get his own character arc.
@adamzielke3541
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine an episode of Max and phill needing to work together to survive the Null Void and maybe reconciling
@zohebrafi
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think any of the UAF crew actually cared about Phil
@michaelcarlton1484
3 жыл бұрын
Phil comes back later on.
@zohebrafi
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarlton1484 He comes back in Omniverse. He was nowhere seen in UAF
@GreaterGrievobeast55
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t phill be some hellish spider alien hybrid at this point?
@blackfox7309
3 жыл бұрын
So my friends and I had a discussion about Bens personality changes throughout the series. One of the things we agree on is that when Max is actually around Ben starts to become more like his og iteration. Like Ben chooses to push his responsibilities on Max rather than himself.
@TheDawnofVanlife
3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I never thought of this
@Alphaanims
3 жыл бұрын
Actually that’s a pretty good point
@vincentadultman6226
3 жыл бұрын
Have to agree, after Max almost died Ben really pushed himself to be better, it could be because he wasn't as invested or knowledgeable in plumber matters, despite being entwined in them for most of his life, so he had a lot of ground to cover, but after Max got back he began to lay off again, because Max was a much better liasion with the rest of the universe anyway
@AmitCinematicUniverse
2 жыл бұрын
This is probably why he is serious in Ben 10: Unlimited. Losing Max, Gwen, Kevin, Julie, Ship, his parents, aunt, and uncle, really made Ben take his life seriously.
@LKYHGaming
2 жыл бұрын
@@AmitCinematicUniverse what’s Ben 10 Unlimited?
@quintonhensley9050
2 жыл бұрын
Something really interesting towards the Omnitrix AI theory is its usage of the term "we" in "should we attempt to repair". Of course it could be referring to we the team as Kevin and Gwen were there, but notably the only one present in the removal "vision" was ben so it feels like the omnitrix is considering itself an entity apart from Ben.
@ScottishScrub
3 жыл бұрын
"You found a bingo game?" Why is Kevin just the best character?
@101caoimhe
3 жыл бұрын
True
@ghostbonepunk1683
3 жыл бұрын
I love that moment
@wojciechcichocki1429
3 жыл бұрын
That's a work related accident. You can sue.
@enderkingdev368
3 жыл бұрын
31:28 Actually, Gwen's brother has been mentioned before. At least technically. He was mentioned in the classic series but only in a couple of those popup trivia things. The first being on the episode "Lucky Girl" in season 1 which stated "Gwen has an older brother named Ken that Ben worships." Another was apparently on "Perfect Day" in season 4 that stated "Grandpa Max's lucky Hawaiian shirt was given to him by Gwen's older brother Ken." However, yea. It's really weird how they finally bring this obscure brother who has only ever been mentioned in a couple triva popup into a main story and then proceed to go back to pretending he doesn't exist. Should've kept some cameos or references to him going forwards.
@fightingmedialounge519
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the pop up trivia only occurred during the creation of alien force.
@robbomegavlkafenryka6158
Жыл бұрын
Not the first time they just forgot about a section of the Tennysons. Remember that one cousin that married the mud alien?
@insertname8230
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been cool to have Ken be the "Normal guy" of the group, like he's geared up and training to be a plumber like Max or something, but when he goes on adventures it becomes apparent he's inexperienced compared to Ben and Gwen. I think he would have made for a really cool 4th member of the team
@sirmel11
3 жыл бұрын
I wish Max was on the team.
@ianr.navahuber2195
3 жыл бұрын
@@sirmel11 At least as a cameo as "the normal guy that somehow is always in the middle of an alien crisis" it would be hilarious for comedic episodes
@Karin-fj3eu
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 yeah I was always disappointed we didn't see him more as a child, I was always curious about who he was. Could've just joined from time to time when he happened to be around.
@Blachexx
2 жыл бұрын
I wish ken appeared in the show but as a male anodite... that would’ve been awesome. lol
@Rose-yx6jq
Жыл бұрын
Then Julie stuck around and we've got the 5 man band.
@DaAcorn
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like “killing” max the way they did, with a modified null void projector, the audience could simply be smart enough to know there’s a chance max just warped himself to the null void. So when it’s revealed that’s what happened, it doesn’t feel like a cop out moment, they laid out the clues for that revelation.
@travisherndon94
3 жыл бұрын
Ben: It's up to use to save the world, except for you Ken go back to the void and we will never mention you again just like before. Ken: okay (disappear) Gwen: Who was that?
@jackfelt1983
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin’s car should probably be named after the man who helped him revert back into human form or at least something simple like “Reformer” since it sounds tech-y and it’s a subtle nod to Kevin reforming as the series goes on
@AlchemixIncTM
2 жыл бұрын
Kevin naming his car after Kwarrel, the alien who helped him learn to control his temper and powers while he was in the Null Void is a really cool idea.
@illanalevi6091
3 жыл бұрын
The odd thing about character development is that people in real life are hard headed too. People slide back on behaviors and don't act on the lessons they learn right away. Ben can learn and grow when he needs too, I think this is an example.
@Artryom
3 жыл бұрын
Old habits die hard…
@StelarVA
3 жыл бұрын
I say we call Kevin’s Car the “Bust Rucket.” Side note since Kuro mentioned it, I remember Will Friedle mentioning on a podcast (Rob Paulsen’s iirc) that his last name is pronounced “Frih-Dell.” The more you know.
@lorddelta1805
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the red and silver color scheme, I think it's meant to contrast the traditional omnitrix Green and black. It's most apparent when you look at Ben and Albedo
@SenojX88
3 жыл бұрын
that’s a great point
@ardzzz1010
3 жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that it is the foreshadowing for albedo.
@maxonbardo
3 жыл бұрын
I think it would actually be pretty uncharacteristic for Kevin to name his car, the car's really an extension of himself so I'd take him shouting "MY RIDE" over some goofy name every time it exploded. The car does feel like it's own character though when it drives off in the big DNAlien battle on autopilot, RIP. Really wish we saw more of Kevin's omniverse car, that thing was sick and the dark blue matched his color pallet super well.
@quantumsurge7250
3 жыл бұрын
3:30 "Oh yeah and this is the episode where Gwen randomly had a brother."
@SM-th7pw
3 жыл бұрын
And he was instantly forgotten about
@ghostspider2056
3 жыл бұрын
Actually her brother was confirmed in the original series in one of the pop up trivias twice in the Lucky Girl and Perfect Day episodes, he’s also the one who gave Max his lucky Hawaiian shirt.
@shyoss2671
3 жыл бұрын
@@ghostspider2056 ok,im not american so i nevere read any pop up trivia BUT watching kuro's breakdowns i came to think that the trivias were made in reference with each episode so why is gwen brother mentioned in the lucky girl episode or the perfect day episode?
@NivekTheEnigma
2 жыл бұрын
When you brought up the dn-aliens overlapping one another it reminded me of the old Ben 10 game creator on the cartoon network's website, if I remember correctly there was a "dn-alien brush" where you could copy and paste the aliens where they overlap each other.
@smolidk7981
3 жыл бұрын
Ben's character development in AF still works even if Max was alive. The fact that we got both the development and the amazing character is great
@neekogregory1885
3 жыл бұрын
29:39 that scene in Omni verse where Ben was talking to the younger version of himself was heat
@jeremiahnsube372
3 жыл бұрын
_How is Max able to do this?_ I am supremely disappointed in you Kuro, it doesn't matter what you're taking into account there is one thing above it all *Infinite Tennyson strength.*
@101caoimhe
3 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed to
@raresr9698
3 жыл бұрын
Grandpa Max is stronger than Four Arms
@ardzzz1010
3 жыл бұрын
He ain't called the greatest plumber in the universe for nothing.
@jbcatz5
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Facehuggers from Alien were an inspiration for the Xenocites. Both target the face to biologically subvert the body to the will of the species, and are multi-limbed creatures which seem to have a certain degree of independent mobility.
@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets
Жыл бұрын
They are way too similar for that not to be the case.
@SuraimuWasTaken
3 жыл бұрын
I think the inside of the Omnitrix scene was definitely all in Ben's mind due to the fact that the Omnitrix is both physically and neurologically linked to Ben because of the alien data dump that happens when he uses an unfamiliar alien. So when he's curing Ken of the Xenocite, he's probably standing there with it in his hand while the Omnitrix is curing Ken but in his head he's floating through the inner tubing of the watch.
@matijasostojic4288
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that because the omnitrix was meant for Max anyone with his Dna or genes like Ben can get the omnitrix. So because Ken was "infected" so his Dna was wrong or damaged or corrupted. The omnitrix detected him because of that and it learned how to cure others.
@digitaltailsmon4096
3 жыл бұрын
Max’s death I still think holds weight. For me when a character death will or is negated by them coming back it needs to follow 3 rules. 1 does it make sense ie does the explanation for why they came back make sense in universe. 2 is this either the first time doing it or is it a rare occasion and 3 does the character coming back add more than what their death meant. In my opinion max covers all 3 easily. Obviously as you showed the explanation later has an animated scene in it with the white flash and from a logical perspective it never made sense a device made to send someone to another world would suddenly just be a normal explosion. It makes far more sense that removing the lens just made it a unfocused teleportation. Granted their is a question of why Gwen’s shield worked but that’s honestly a little detail that could be hand waved by mana. As for number 2 this is one of the only times it did it so far aside from SOTO with Gwen and Gudo. Even still this one lasted longer than those two so I feel it gets a pass on this. Finally as Kuro made it clear max does so much once he does come back that it honestly out ways the issue of him coming back. Especially since yeah Ben might have his development hurt a little but I feel that only would happen if once he came back Ben would always be a follower but that is not the case especially since he sometimes leads when max is with them showing his growth. Overall I feel his coming back is a great thing and as for the making this scene hurt less I won’t denied it kinda does but only a little since the scene is so emotionally well handled
@ghostspider2056
3 жыл бұрын
Actually her brother was confirmed in the original series in one of the pop up trivias twice in the Lucky Girl and Perfect Day episodes, he’s also the one who gave Max his lucky Hawaiian shirt.
@zohebrafi
3 жыл бұрын
Oh shoot you're right
@1234andrewjacksmith
3 жыл бұрын
god i wish we still had all the pop ups there were such a great ideal
@ardzzz1010
3 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this, but I'm glad someone also know this information.
@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214
3 жыл бұрын
@@1234andrewjacksmith i just hate that there are a lot of really important information and lore that was only in the pop-ups
@moviehermit5631
3 жыл бұрын
It's a mixed bag when it comes to Ben's hesitation to use the Omnitrix unless absolutely necessary. One one hand, he's playing it smart and not using up the energy when he can avoid it. Just look at all the times he changed back at an inconvenient time in the Classic Series. In this case, it also showed he had faith that Gwen could handle herself, as opposed to his previous macho mentality where he acted like he was the only capable one in the Rust Bucket On the other hand, he can change back at any time, allowing it to recharge without being completely out of juice. And in the last episode, there wasn't exactly a bigger thing he knew he had to deal with (maybe he was worried someone seeing an alien would cause a panic). It's definitely not that he isn't used to wearing the Omnitrix again, 'cause in Episode 1, he instinctually slapped down on on wrist when the DNAlien attacked him.
@SamG5457
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin looks like the kind of guy that would call his Car Kevin Jr.
@guywithaface887
3 жыл бұрын
Y'mean a narcissist?
@creaketh
3 жыл бұрын
@@guywithaface887 Nah, his car is like family to him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he thought if it as his child or something lol
@SunWarrior155
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin: You gotta treat a car like you treat a woman.
@strangerkryptonair5774
2 жыл бұрын
I liked the Omnitrix talking. It makes sense as it's a highly advanced tech.
@mechajay3358
2 жыл бұрын
True
@mohammadqasimawais9155
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin could have named his car Arcade cause one off his earliest happiest memories come from playing in an arcade, before Ben showed up.
@kumargaurav9212
2 жыл бұрын
One question. Why was the highbreed listening to Max's sermon rather than making any attempt to snatch the device. Imean he had Max in his hand.
@lucasfranke5161
2 жыл бұрын
You can't just interrupt someone's monologue. It doesn't matter if two people are fighting at the speed of light, someone's about to be killed, a bomb will explode in 5 seconds or the characters are standing 50 meters apart... there's always time for one minute of perfectly intelligible conversation
@kumargaurav9212
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasfranke5161 Are you being genuine or sarcastic?
@VerticlSpoon
3 жыл бұрын
He should’ve tbh, would’ve been a great send off. He’s my favourite character though, still fine with him in the series.
@sagittario42
3 жыл бұрын
Are you fine with the ben 10 reboot voice actor
@Chimerathedragon
3 жыл бұрын
Now I think he works that didn't die, it leads Ben to be a better leader and allows Max to see and be proud of what he's become plus it doesn't hit the fans to hard once they reveal he's alive, as well his survival makes enough sense like he used a Null void projector as a grenade, just because you remove the Projector part doesn't mean you make it a bomb, like those old Projectors for movies just because you remove the lens doesn't make a bomb so his death was likely planned to keep him alive
@UnknownEX0
3 жыл бұрын
@@sagittario42 nobody watches that trash
@VerticlSpoon
3 жыл бұрын
@@sagittario42 I don’t really care cause I think Ben 10 is just over, but obviously the OG is better
@VerticlSpoon
3 жыл бұрын
@@Chimerathedragon Definitely think it was fine that he stayed.
@sap-un6ny
2 жыл бұрын
I think Kevin would name his car, Kwarrel after the man who taught him at the Null Void Incarcecon.
@shinkaiatsuya950
3 жыл бұрын
The omnitrix talking just gives more into the idea that the omnitrix has some sort of intelligence.
@calculus4226
3 жыл бұрын
yeah and omnitrix speaking like a human is very weird, it should speak like AI you know, instead of "should we attempt to repair?" it should be "permission required for repairing" or smthing like this but it is all cool
@pikagammerpluspizza7478
3 жыл бұрын
I'd have liked it if only Ben could hear the Omnitrix talk and throughout the episode Kevin waved it off that its just Ben hearing himself but then Ben removes the DNA alien and Kevin believes him. Also now that I'm thinking about it, could the Omnitrix's DNA repair function have fixed Ultimate or even the original series Kevin?
@TheInkTank
3 жыл бұрын
That'd be a neat idea if only Ben can hear the Omnitrix!
@mav1884
3 жыл бұрын
I will never get tired of these breakdowns, I just love them, you get some cool ink tank news, basically get to watch a whole Ben 10 episode, learn some cool details, it’s AWESOME
@Bobb11881
3 жыл бұрын
The hatchery in this episode is most likely a fish hatchery. There's big pools of water where eggs are kept, and the DNAlien that fights Max in the opening mentioned that the town has farm-raised fish. I also wanna point out that Max is 65 in this episode and kicks way more ass than he ever did in the original series. I can buy it. Tom Cruise is 60, and I'm sure he'll still be able to do the crazy shit he does in 5 years.
@recargadorfandango3886
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin: The names between cousins in your family rhymes? That's so funny Yeah say the one who his son is called Devlin and his father is called Devin
@christianparrish6647
3 жыл бұрын
It's so weird
@notemporioiswear9979
3 жыл бұрын
His grandson shall be, Kevlin
@Idiotando
3 жыл бұрын
A quick animation error you missed: For the scene at 9:35 they messed up the layering on gwen, the collar of her shirt and the start of her neck were mistakengly layered BEHIND her torso.
@HiperPivociarz
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Omniverse is "afraid" to do scenes like that, it's just that they weren't allowed to. It makes me feel bad to even criticize it, cause the writers probably heard it a thousand times, and everytime the answer is "Yes, I know. I don't like that either"
@ultimatejager4058
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree, I think Omniverse writers were much more coherent and aware of what they were doing. Alien Force sometimes seems to me like the writers wanted to make a more mature story at all costs, putting random dramatic events on screen just to say “See? We’re making a mature Ben 10”. Highbreeds arc doesn’t even have a clear linear plot, but they kept trying to create a forced continuity that doesn’t seem that much solid at a closer look: Max that suggests Ben to specifically look for plumbers’ children for no reason, the Omnitrix and plumber badges that bring out a new feature when it’s convenient for the plot, Vulkanus that casually has Max’s holo-projector with a message to Ben and it’s unknown when he got it etc. Omniverse on the other hand created simpler and much more coherent stories where drama is there when it’s really necessary. Drama is much more interesting and impactful when it’s used in pivotal moments, not when it tends to influence the show’s general mood. I don’t dislike Alien Force, but I think the first part of the series is overrated and has the least interesting writing of all Ben 10. I appreciate more what they did with War of the Worlds of AF finale where seriousness is used when it’s necessary and the story can still be fun and not too dark
@HiperPivociarz
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultimatejager4058 I think that's completely subjective. There are shows that are mostly dramatic, and mostly dark, and never really do anything humorous, and they are enjoyed by people. I personally like dark stories, and humorous stories. I don't think the humor in Omniverse is the problem, I think the problem is Ben himself. Like, sometimes he's really insensitive and awful, like when Azmuth was basically brain drained, and Ben just laughs and says "Can we keep him this way?", when an actual caring person would probably feel really sorry for Azmuth and want to help him. Especially when this is Ben's teacher essentially. You can still have Azmuth being goofy and sticking out his tongue, without Ben being so heartless about it.
@LuisGustavoSO
2 жыл бұрын
@@HiperPivociarz Ben is just laid back in Omniverse (which really fits his character and is way better than the arrogant cocky version we got in UAF)
@maxmacraft6614
2 жыл бұрын
Yh fr like were people really expecting ben to do some next up shit like kill Kyber or something,(similar to ben in UA where he tried to kill Kevin) omniverse has serious moments obviously but there is no need for people to compare the dark moments to UAF or OS because cmon it's blantely obvious which scenes are serious/dark, the problem is most people want to shit on omniverse is general which i don't blame them because it' the weakest ben 10 show in the series(excluding the reboot) I used to love the show so much is was probably my favorite series followed by ultimate alien, I read all the comments and the hate omniverse was getting watch all 8 seasons of it again but damn it sucked I just didn't enjoy as much I remember simply because all the negative thoughts were getting to me, but's it still a good show imo just sucks that i can no enjoy because of how the fanbase treats it, like I said I don't blame people hating omniverse there is plenty of reason too, but when it's done like 100 times it just gets old and childish anyway that is at least how i feel, anyone is free to disagree lol.
@Sarah12471
2 жыл бұрын
@@LuisGustavoSO Wow, someone actually managed to put it into words
@jackfelt1983
3 жыл бұрын
So in the scene with Gwen walking in water let’s be honest she probably made mana platforms for the gang to make the whole process silent and efficient
@akdrzllol594
3 жыл бұрын
The dark episodes in Ben 10 were amazing imo😅I always found them amazing when I was younger and still do. I have mix feelings about Max being alive but it didn’t ruin it for me tbh
@robertoramirez660
3 жыл бұрын
Keeping Grandpa Max alive is honestly the best decision for Alien Force. Come on, you can’t just kill off the coolest character in this franchise and one of the coolest fictional grandfathers!
@Shane_A_M
3 жыл бұрын
Name for Kevin’s car: Force Maverick Also, one of my favorite Kevin lines is in this episode: “That’s a work related accident, you can sue.”
@mistar_feed
3 жыл бұрын
In my headcannon Ben feels guilty about Max's "death" because he knew he was alive when he went to the future.
@gecko2993
3 жыл бұрын
I recently finished generator Rex and realized why it's not rex joining Ben in 5yl. Either way this is going to be a good video as usual
@JayRedGear
3 жыл бұрын
Why? Rex is in a similar position as Danny (being from another universe). Not to mention InkTank using Nanites as a plot point.
@gecko2993
3 жыл бұрын
@@JayRedGear I haven't read 5yl but my guess would be Danny could be more popular, or because there's no more Evos besides the pack, and possibly bobo
@GreaterGrievobeast55
3 жыл бұрын
@@gecko2993 well the story seemed more conclusive than the others yeah, but honestly i’d suspect the pack to have done something within those five years to keep rex in the hero buisness. Or something else with the potential to justify continuing the story.
@andrewkind2820
2 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling the writers wanted Ken to be a main or at least recurring character in the franchise going forward but someone above them said no
@zenpaulpacheco2607
3 жыл бұрын
A funny play on word for Kevin's car: 'Mai' whenever he shouts , 'Mai' car; with Mai also meaning 'Beloved'.
@ultimatebreak827
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting.. Thanks!
@jbcatz5
3 жыл бұрын
My cabbages!
@jinxtheunluckypony
3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this episode as a kid but I completely forgot Ken was supposed to be Gwen’s brother. He really should have appeared in later episodes.
@dutch_asocialite
3 жыл бұрын
All I have to say about Max's "death" is: Lol, imagine thinking Max's improv Null Void bomb actually killed him instead of sending him to the Null Void. For real though, I remember - or think I do - when watching the episode that he was sent to the Null Void because... well, the Null Void tag. Or I just didn't pay attention to the scene, since I could never get a reliable way of watching Ben 10 Ultimate Alien Force and just tried focusing on the coolness whenever I got the chance. That said, I brought this up to my brother and he brought up the fact that, though a different franchise, Jorge was killed by the Slipspace Bomb in Halo: Reach. Though I believe that's down to the fact that Slipspace is much more hostile to unshielded items whereas the Null Void is very livable, so ㄟ( ▔, ▔ )ㄏ
@jasurmakhkamov
3 жыл бұрын
In H:R Jorge took his helmet off so I doubt he would’ve survived no matter where he went - either he’d be in the vacuum pf space or in an unsuitable atmosphere
@dutch_asocialite
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasurmakhkamov Jorge and the Covenant Supercarrier were transported to Slipspace, which requires a protective field in order for anything to just exist. Regardless of whether he had his helmet on or not, he'd still end up as space smoothie.
@tylercoon1791
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it’s more that the bomb killed Max, more that after the transport, it’s just Max against a Hybreed and an army of DNAliens. Not good odds.
@nowlwane9623
2 жыл бұрын
A few questions need to be answered. Would this change damage the tone of the series? Would the characters be likable if Max died? Would the impact of the death be felt or ignored in later adventures? Viewers will want to move on or stop watching the series if a key character is gone.
@mister360dudegamer4
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yuri does voice the omnitrix in OV, just pitched his voice higher and other effects added on, when i first heard the omnitrix voice in OV i thought the voice was a woman's but when i rewatched ov i realised it was yuri.
@skibot9974
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest as a kid I didn’t think Max was dead. I assumed he was just trapped in the Null Void. I don’t know if I was psychic or just didn’t fully comprehend death yet
@levievil9220
Жыл бұрын
I think you just didn’t get death yet i did which is weird
@DavidPoddany
3 жыл бұрын
I’m really conflicted on this. I wish he would’ve died there, but I also love the devoid episode and Max’s subsequent returns where he tells the verdona story. But honestly his “death” here still carries so much weight since it made Ben and the team grow up quicker, and sort of solidified Kevin as a team player completely. Also I love the ultimate Aggregor story arc where Max had broken some bones and needed to heal. It made everything just so much more real when someone like grandpa almost died in the show (since he was fucking invincible in classic😂) Max-out was always my favorite episode, I remember the commercials hyping up the return of grandpa, this episode was really exciting.
@Chimerathedragon
3 жыл бұрын
Best way I can put it is they did it in the best way they could have to keep him alive, he has a good story for it because he just removed the lens part of the projector it just went off without a means to target it so why would it be a bomb now it's just unfocused, he stayed gone until Ben developed how he needed to and Max got to be proud of him and the fans didn't have to be to sad that he was died because he came back
@iamthebutthead
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Ken had been the one to get the Anodite genes instead of Gwen. She had to earn the magic through study and dedication, where he was just born with the powers. Wizard vs. Sorcerer
@joshualaborde5854
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a little behind on this. Trying to catch up to your present day videos. But in regards to Max's sacrifice, I don't think it's wasted because he survives. Ben grows as a leader because of this moment, and even with the reveal that he's alive later, he's in a situation that prevents him from joining the team, making the growth Ben takes from this moment still relevant and needed. Also, I personally believe Max knew exactly what was going to happen when he pressed that button. If he's as good as he's made out to be, he knows the intricacies of how his tech works. The lens just focused the beam, the handle actually produced the Null Void portal and he knew that (imo)
@fenol8957
3 жыл бұрын
Grandpa Max: "I love all non-Gwens equally"
@raymondyongho5757
3 жыл бұрын
Gwen: “Ken’s the coolest guy in the world.” Why did Gwen need to have a brother? They could have just made her and Ben siblings if they were going to give her one. Also, Gwen, your grandfather is basically a secret agent, and your cousin is a superhero. How cool can your brother possibly be? *immediately forgotten after this episode* Apparently, not much.
@Owlman2577
3 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine Kevin secretly calls his car the Mean Green Machine. Either that or he pulls a mad Max and calls it his "Magnum Opus"
@dutch_asocialite
3 жыл бұрын
Well it is his best work throughout the show, so something blunt and obvious as Magnum Opus could work... until it gets replaced by Omniverse.
@salix_babylonic9
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely think Kevin would name his car something like an old woman's name like Dolores or even Ruth (similar to Rust Bucket in name)
@theheat8284
3 жыл бұрын
In other words, What if Grandpa Max was Uncle Ben'd for real
@RidleyKraid187
3 жыл бұрын
I think Kevin would retroactively name his car “Gwen”. It’s stupid, but I wouldn’t put it past him.
@Aibadenshi
3 жыл бұрын
Max death never was seems like a big deal to me since he was using a null void projector. So it didn't surprise me if he did survive, the scenes is probably to make the first time viewer shock but not the people that already fan.
@yaminogame
3 жыл бұрын
I personally always knew grandpa max would come back eventually. Considering the device he was using. If you think about, taking off the focus lens would cause the energy to ripple outwards instead of “focusing” it to central point. I never bought he died anyway. But with Max’s absence Ben was forced to grow up and become the hero we all knew he could be. It would open the door for Textrax to be his new mentor like you suggested in the classic series. It is a shame they backed tracked that season 3 onward
@josiahdensby2053
3 жыл бұрын
As impactful as it would have been to take Max out then, I feel like that would be too much of a blow to the Original Series. I love all the Ben 10 series for their own reasons, but Alien Force already had some knocks against it for its changes (which weren't all bad), but it would've been like saying to Original Series fans, "This is the episode your series dies." And, especially since later series don't have deaths as serious as this, it would feel far too out of place with the way the series progresses.
@somehelluvafanboy8357
3 жыл бұрын
And then OV does that exact same fucking thing
@HerohammerStudios
3 жыл бұрын
Gwen 'dying' in Secret of The Omnitrix was definitely played very dramatically
@MarshallLeeA
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe? But then we wouldn't have that callout moment when Ben is planning to put down Ultimate Kevin Also, him using a "Null Void" weapon it already gives the outcome away, enforced by the future episode "Plumber's Helpers" where Manny and Helen thought their projector was a weapon instead of just a teleporter.
@Genra
3 жыл бұрын
I think Kevin would call his car "Magnum Opus", because the name literally means "someone's best work", and also it's a reference to a car in the Mad Max series
@christianparrish6647
3 жыл бұрын
Raise your hand, if you didn't know that Gwen had a brother, before you saw this episode.
@TheTrendTubers
3 жыл бұрын
Never in my life have I ever seen such a dedicated Ben ten fan, Robert Orpilla u will always remain a Legend!
@ekereus9037
3 жыл бұрын
Kevins car can’t have a name, because he would have to think of a new name every time it gets destroyed
@springmushroom9214
3 жыл бұрын
It would be hilarious if there was a number for every one that was replaced like the rust buckets
@axelnilsson5124
3 жыл бұрын
You do know it’s the same car right?
@jbcatz5
3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix would be apt, as he keeps bringing the car back from bad condition. Oh, actually, considering it keeps getting bashed up and repaired, Captain Jack! That man knows resurrection inside and out.
@modelomegatyler
2 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna go ahead and agree with the other comments and say yes, i'm glad he's back, but i feel he should have taken some form of damage from it like loosing his arm and eventually get that robotic arm.
@professorannefaire7233
3 жыл бұрын
Ken's also a flipping anodyte so if he stuck with the team he could discover 'magic' along the way
@giovan483
3 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t have the spark
@Blachexx
2 жыл бұрын
Well I mean.. anodites have no DNA so technically he’s not. Verdona May be his great grandmother but she doesn’t have any DNA relating to him. They simply appear randomly with a anodite and a different species.
@primordial_sage
2 жыл бұрын
Sure Ken never appeared after this episode but it's good to kniw that he made a small impact to Ben because as he said Ken is the coolest person he ever knew and it's great to see that Ben later names his son after the coolest person he knew. Kinda like Goku and Grandpa Gohan, where Goku named his first son after the only person who ever cared for him.
@Owen-sx4jj
3 жыл бұрын
Powerscalers be like: grandpa is a able to fight with the hybrid which means he's on par with Ben's aliens-country level + FTL speed
@christophercrafte
3 жыл бұрын
the hatchery they show is actually a fish hatchery, in the diner scene when max mentions fishing they tell him that their fish are farm grown, that was supposed to be a tip that the dnaliens are made at the fish hatchery, which is also why they are in that green water because thats normally where fish would be.
@Dotling
3 жыл бұрын
When the DNaliens ask about the sheriff, I always thought that was code for the Highbreed since they would've recognized the omnitrix immediately.
@matheussandbakk9959
2 жыл бұрын
I believe the "inside" of the omnitrix, is just a cognitive override by it. In real life Ben is just standing there with the omnitrix, but in his brain, his getting all these singals from the omnitrix, in which he visualizes
@chideraekejiuba1319
3 жыл бұрын
The Kevin car sounds nice I'll stick with "the Kevin car" since I can't think of anything else 😂
@BriGuy-ed5dr
3 жыл бұрын
Don't care about it having a voice, but I like the idea that it can do more than alter DNA. It was made by the Galvin after all
@vegeto186
3 жыл бұрын
You're right about the DNA masks being a solid material. The aliens wear rubber ones but Kevin's was more of a solid mask. I always thought he just modified it to fit his face better
@dutch_asocialite
3 жыл бұрын
>The aliens wear rubber ones Really? I just figured it was because ripping the mask off would cause the illusion to tear along with it, considering it's what produces the whole thing.
@vegeto186
3 жыл бұрын
@@dutch_asocialite I think it's just the fact that the animators, writers forgot what the original ones looked like when Kevin wore his in season 3
@Retro_Red
3 жыл бұрын
Well Kevin is already in a humanoid form. The mask doesn't need to fit to an odd headshape.
@vegeto186
3 жыл бұрын
@@Retro_Red good point
@Bluejay-jg6hz
2 жыл бұрын
So I've heard a lot of arguements towards the "death" not needing to stay permanent and I get that it accomplishes what it needs to. The only argument I can personally give is memorability. Like this would go down in Ben 10 history as the death of Grandpa Max but I get people love him and don't mind him coming back instead it now more so focuses on Ben and takes away a bit in my oponion. A good example would be One Piece the death of Ace versus the death of Krillin in DBZ. Ace's death effects the fans and Luffy forever cause that's it for him. Krillins death effects Goku so strongly it brings the series to the next level but no one really cares about that scene for Krillins death anymore cause we know he comes back later.
@quantumsurge7250
3 жыл бұрын
12:37 On the topic of why Ben gets the wrong alien, if you play the Ben 10 omniverse console game and pay attention to Blukic and Driba's dialogue in the first level they actually sort of explain how the transformation mechanism of the omnitrix works.
@cataclysmicsoul1072
3 жыл бұрын
Wait correct me if I'm wrong, but since we find out that the DNAliens are humans, isn't Max essentially killing them by throwing them in the null void?
@anthonyvillanueva5226
3 жыл бұрын
Since you brought up Danny Phantom, I've always thought that it was too limiting making the entire Ghost Zone its own And Beyond episode. You could have individual And Beyond episodes focusing on different parts of the Ghost Zone (one on the Far Frozen, one on the Ghost King's domain, etc)
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