What are your thoughts on policing rogue cyclists? 🚴👮
@nationsnumber1chump
Ай бұрын
If it's Dan without a shirt, then YES!
@tomwestbrook
Ай бұрын
Deterrence for stupid/risky acts is probably needed, since obviously it's happening. I got pulled over for drunk bicycling in my college years (this was the 80's) even though I was only swerving lightly... Cops had less to deal with then.
@cyclecam6328
Ай бұрын
There is honour in cycling safely, considerately and making progress in that order. It's best for you to do that for its own sake rather than for fear of the rozzers. I'm glad police are thinking about dangerous cycling but i think we should do more introspection and have 'a word' with someone who is being a knob.
@DigitalCowboy000
Ай бұрын
I'm all for stopping und citing people on bicycles for breaking the traffic laws the same as people driving motor vehicles. But the cops need to be properly educated as to what is und isn't illegal behavior.
@DigitalCowboy000
Ай бұрын
@@tomwestbrookgood, you *WERE* operating a vehicle.
@Aussie_stu
Ай бұрын
As a society we have been conditioned to just accept when motorists break road rules. Everyday I see cars speeding, running red lights, changing lanes without signalling,, and there is nowhere near the level of vitriol towards this compared to when a cyclist does it.
@charlestaylor3195
Ай бұрын
Cyclists don't have fender benders, the slightest bump from a car can be fatal.
@AlbionSupreme
Ай бұрын
Where the duck are you from? In 1st world countries it's the other way round with cyclist skirting ALL the laws
@ADAMEDWARDS17
Ай бұрын
@@AlbionSupreme So how come in the UK drivers kill 5 people and seriously injure 80 every day, but people who ride cycles at worst kill 5 in a bad year? The vast majority of death and serious injury on our roads is down to drivers because if you hit someone with 2 tons of metail it does damage. We have a massive problem with speeding, drug and drink driving and people driving who have never passed the driving test.
@ianmitchell6279
Ай бұрын
Simple answer. We all follow the rules of the road. Neither motorists or cyclists should be entitled over the other. Respect all.
@82vitt
Ай бұрын
@@ADAMEDWARDS17 Much fewer cyclists than drivers is the answer why.
@spacehed23
Ай бұрын
Dan is right, illegally modified eBikes are incredibly dangerous. They travel at motorbike speeds on pavements and through parks as well as on the road. The riders have no helmets, probably no insurance and definitely don’t have motorbike licenses yes they are essentially riding a highly powerful and dangerous motorbike.
@82vitt
Ай бұрын
Add to that that they are really quiet due to the electric engine making no noise. The police are trying to tackle those with localised operations, but from what I can see this has no effect on the numbers of them. If anything the number I see daily have increased. The only way of sorting this out would be to ban the sales and private ownership completely, but that won't happen.
@dannystaten5701
Ай бұрын
The problem is that the police are largely ignorant about the law as it applies to cyclists. I had a cop pull me over to warn me (no ticket fortunately) claiming that I was breaking the law when I wasn't.
@gavinm717gkm
Ай бұрын
You could drop the last 5 words from your first sentence and still be speaking truthfully.
@mikescott1045
Ай бұрын
Personally I have had more near misses with light jumping fellow cyclists that then accused me of being careless for not looking out for them. Dah selfish and stupid
@leobrennauer
Ай бұрын
Funny how different our world is… I cycled from Germany to Istanbul this spring. When going into turkey there were several occasions where we would ignore Komoot and search for quiet roads instead of going on the suggested highway. Just to find that there aren’t any or if, people randomly stop you and ask, where you’re going, only to tell you that you’d rather go back and cycle on the highway :D Not to say it was anywhere close to fun, but it’s reality. Oh and on another occasion even the military of Greece told us to use the highway to go into Bulgaria - we were desperately trying to find a different way, but there just wasn’t :D So we ended up driving on a shoulder that even was partly blocked due to construction work. In these moments I just can’t believe how lucky we „east-Europeans“ are with our beautiful network of cycle roads or even country roads that are driveable
@Al.2
Ай бұрын
As a cyclist, I can never, ever assert my right of way without first negotiating it with car drivers. I can never rely solely on the rule granting me the right of way. My safety is always in my own hands because I'm surrounded by distracted people driving deadly weapons - no rule will protect me if they break it. That’s why, when I see it’s safe to go, I don’t care much if someone else judges my decision based on the traffic light.
@better.better
Ай бұрын
I am the same way, but even then always remember that it can seem like somebody is looking directly at you but really they're looking PAST you and don't see you at all. I experienced this while cycling through a 2-lane, two circle roundabout that passes under and accommodates the entry/exit ramps of a major highway. I thought the driver waiting to enter the roundabout was looking directly at me and meeting my eyes but as he pulled out in front of me his eyes shifted ever so slightly and went a little wide as he recognized my presence, but I was already taking evasive action into the inner lane for a go around. also remember that people can be night blind... another close call that I had... I didn't realize what probably actually happened until last year when my mother was explaining why she doesn't drive at night anymore, the lens of her eyes are scratched so it's kind of like looking through a dirty windshield. fine during the day when the world is lit up, but at night lights ahead are all refracted, such that she can't tell how far away they are from her. the incident that I had involved an older woman pulling out of a driveway. I'm wearing a headlamp, retro-reflective safety vest, and at the time I was pulling a loaded BOB trailer with the pendant flag on it to which I had also stuck retro-reflective stripe. in my case retrospectively if I kept moving I probably would have been fine, but thinking she was backing out in front of me I came to a stop, however she reversed to the right as if to park on the shoulder. I thought oh maybe she's parking to allow somebody else to reverse out, so I get half a crank in, and she begins forward again... so I stopped to figure out what she's doing now... then she stops again... I think oh she stopped because now she sees me... so this time I pedal in earnest thinking she's waiting for me but then she jerks forward and steers directly towards me and I "giv'n her all she's got cap'in!" but it's only enough to clear the bike not the trailer from her path of travel. the force of pushing the trailer to the side was enough to bend my rear wheel, yet the trailer and the contents we're fine. I remember thinking with all of this reflective stuff I've got on, how could she possibly not see me? well that's how: it's not that she couldn't see me it's that she couldn't differentiate all of the lights & retro-reflective on my bike and body from the house lights behind me.
@secretbrad9259
Ай бұрын
Can we all give a shout out for Si finally ironing a T shirt for the show!
@berenicebaker7191
29 күн бұрын
It wasn’t ironed it was brand new. Looked good though didn’t it!
@micahcarter6588
Ай бұрын
I’m watching hack or hodge saying “That’s a Klein!” So glad Si saw it too.
@Pull_It_Apart_Paul_Ham_CB
Ай бұрын
Courtesy and manners have been lost across all road users. I'm from Australia all your arguments are valid here to, most worrying trend are the high speeds om shared path ways mostly family's, elderly, childre walkers. These people not using bells warning the walkers of their silent approach, E Bikes (suedo trail bikes) speeds of 50kph to some passing me at 70kph. We have a high amount of hospital admissions due to these arrogant users hitting people. Lastly if you're a road bike user or pretending you're racing against a fictitious person on strava (fantastic stuff) but don't warn people you are passing them at 60kph on a 1.5m wide path is insanity, dangerous & arrogant behaviour which gives genuine cyclists a bad name.
@tankbirdfinder6219
Ай бұрын
Not to be hard on law enforcement, it's a difficult job in the public eye constantly. But rather than focus on catching cyclist doing incorrect, how about studying up on what is and isn't cycling laws? Here in Portland Oregon, we actually have police officers on MTB's that ride on the sidewalk along busy streets, presumably because there's no bike path and they don't want to die, but recognize it's illegal. I too, like many, have my story of being pulled over for riding 2 abreast, and again in Oregon it's also not illegal. I was actually at a sanctioned bicycle event when it occurred. So my request, let's educate our officers of the laws, so they can be prepared to assist people in accidents with who's at fault for insurance, how to document the seen of accident, what the actual cycling laws are, and how they pertain to cyclist/car interactions. Let's help officers "protect and serve" cyclist better. Make them allies, not enemies.
@einundsiebenziger5488
Ай бұрын
In recent years I had more problematic encounters with other cyclists than with motorists, mostly near-crashes with people watching their phones while riding and not paying attention to what's around them. This is asocial behaviour and needs to be punished more severely. Also I'd ask police to know the rules they're enforcing. Once I got pulled over by traffic police while riding on a bike lane and told that I should use the road as I was exceeding the 25 kph speed limit for bike lanes (Germany) and could endanger children. In the next village there was another traffic stop and there I was told to use the bike lane because I was obliged to use it no matter what. Rogue cops are just as awful as rogue cyclists!
@vitalitychiro
Ай бұрын
Dan you are correct that squirrel-phobia may be absolutely justified; I wish I still had the pictures, alas I do not. However, maybe 20 years ago when carbon forks were very new, a friend with this new trendy component had a bad squirrel related accident. The squirrel darted through the spokes of his front wheel and was pulled clean through both sides of the carbon fork! Obviously, he crashed and even braking a collar bone! The incident proved fatal for the squirrel.
@gcn
Ай бұрын
does the wheel survive? It sounds like a dramatic accident.
@jackbrew2
Ай бұрын
Regarding illegally modified e-bikes, I think a weight limit in addition to the current regulations might be part of a solution. It would limit the battery and motor size given these are the heaviest parts of the bike, this would encourage pedalling to conserve battery life and the use of smaller motors to increase the range. The inertia of the bikes is partly what makes these "bikes" particularly dangerous in a collision the weight limit would help reduce that and given they typically use standard bike brakes ensure these are sufficient to stop the bike. Unlike power limits and throttle control, police could far more easily enforce this as they could measure the bike mass at the side of the road with luggage scales. The only issue I see is this would impact on cargo bikes but given the weight/size of these perhaps a registration which exempts you from the weight limit is appropriate. I'd be keen to hear your thoughts
@erintaylor6303
Ай бұрын
GCN should produce a hack/bodge coffee table book!
@gcn
Ай бұрын
📝
@charlestaylor3195
Ай бұрын
I must say in California, at least in Kern County, they really have really been working hard at integrating bicycle lanes in our roadways and have given cyclist consideration in new construction projects.
@davidwrightsr4188
Ай бұрын
Rogue cyclists huh? I live in Santa Cruz (CA) a cycling friendly city to say the least, BUT kids flying around on so called e-bikes at 25+ miles an hour (the speed limit on most streets in our nice seaside town) definitely need a lesson or two in danger to themselves (not to mention others). Being kids, they will probably grow out of knobheadedness (?) but in the meantime, maybe need a bit of a boost in that direction. Btw... the police patrol on bicycles around part of our town too (no they don't speed!).
@gcn
23 күн бұрын
It's common for children not to be aware of danger. Perhaps supervision or restricting access to certain things could be a solution 🤔
@sjalilund
Ай бұрын
Is it only me that's impressed that the show came out on Aug 27th, when it was scheduled for Sep 27th? 😅
@ejacosta174
Ай бұрын
Your comments on the Phil situation are wrong on at least two counts: 1. The court did not find that Phil was right. The cop didn’t show up to court and the case was dismissed. This is not a legal “victory,” nor is it a vindication of Phil’s argument. The court did not have to rule on the merits of Phil’s argument. 2. The particular Vehicle Code section, under which was cited, is ambiguous. It does not specifically allow riders to ride side by side. Conversely, the code section does not specifically prohibit riders from riding side by side. The California legislature needs to amend that code section to make it clear just exactly what constitutes illegal road riding. That will help riders better understand their legal rights while on the road. I normally like GNC, but in this instance your information was incorrect.
@rangersmith4652
Ай бұрын
When cyclists violate car-centric road rules, we do it to reduce risk to ourselves without adding risk or inconvenience to anyone else. Note: Road rules have been designed primarily to keep cars from hitting pedestrians and from hitting each other. They generally apply very poorly to bicycles.
@fartman10284
Ай бұрын
In the states, bicyclists are supposed to follow the same rules of the road as motor vehicles. But often cyclists ignore stop signs, traffic lights, etc, and gives all of us cyclists a bad name. A Strava award is not justification for ignoring traffic laws.
@rob-c.
Ай бұрын
Yet one driver doing the same doesn’t give all drivers a bad name amongst those painting all cyclists with the same brush 🤷♂️
@fartman10284
Ай бұрын
@@rob-c. Yet, can you imagine when a bad cyclist gets behind the wheel of car? That bad cyclist isn't going to magically become a responsible driver
@ryalldaniells6346
Ай бұрын
I once received a spot fine for drunken cycling. After a quick warning the police car went round the block and caught me again cleverly remounted on my bike. I then pushed my bike the 3kms home. Lesson learned!!
@harrie974
29 күн бұрын
I was caught once by the police speeding in a 30 km/h zone. The lasergun shot me at 38 km/h.
@rorih
26 күн бұрын
Switzerland had plates for cyclists as well. They abandoned it since orga costs exceed benefits by far
@dimrub
Ай бұрын
I think a somewhat easier way of putting the rear mech into a fixed easy gear is using a limiting screw - no need to deal with the cable at all. But yes, the presented solution should also work.
@you_down_with_pjc
Ай бұрын
It’d be worth paying bike plates/tabs just to stop the argument. Pro-rate it against the weight of a car, maybe 50 cents a year for bike tabs?
@billmmckelvie5188
27 күн бұрын
I think everyone, (motorists, cyclists, scooterists) needs to have a rethink of the consequences of jumping a redlight and attend major RTA and see what is involved including the coroners inquiry, and the consequences right down to how it affects the family, who will never understand _why_ you did it leaving them bereft! Maybe we should put every person, including cyclsists, motorists, scooterists through professinal drivers health and proficiency training, licensed at their expense, and we'd all be a lot safer!
@anthonygain7645
29 күн бұрын
Chickens have to be worse than squirrels (and cows). They are unpredictable, suicidal maniacs when a bike is near them.
@leissp1
Ай бұрын
Apparently Si's fear of cows does not extend to his "T" shirt No Bull
@kipcc3918
Ай бұрын
Rules of the road apply to road users. It’s up to you if you’ll break it or not. We’re still giving Alex a hard time with his Dura-Ace collections. 😭🤣
@mikequinn
Ай бұрын
I am no more responsible for a bad cyclist when I cycle than I am for a bad motorist when I drive. Even if every single cyclist followed all rules drivers would still find some reason to hate cyclists.
@CyclingInTheAlps
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition "Guy in orange shirt under investigation by UCI for trying to make rider experience more tolerable"
@better.better
Ай бұрын
well the situation is getting better regarding cyclists being detected up by traffic signals, I think cyclists should always at least stop to check for cross traffic at a traffic signal, and even when we technically already have the right of way, we should always be watching for situations that put us in danger, not just blindly riding through the intersection. I would say most offenders are just ignorant about how the law applies to bicycles... they're are people who are too young to get a driver's license, adults who rhave lost their license and have resorted to a bike,... and because cycling related laws aren't enforced, they basically go on doing it, regardless of the common sense of it. then there's the people who spend their entire lives just seeing what they can get away with.
@tattooedfred
Ай бұрын
Yes I do think the police should prosecute cyclists. I think it would make other cyclists pay more attention and possibly ride safer and more importantly I think it would actually improve relations between cyclists and drivers as it will show drivers that cyclists are not above the law
@emmabird9745
Ай бұрын
Laws that aren't enforced are corrosive of society. Just think of all the children in the back of dad's car being taught that breaking the speed limit law is only bad if you're caught. If we teach our children to break that law, then will they learn to obey any laws? As far as traffic lights are concerned, I obey them but, being old and slow I find it difficult to get to the other end of the roadworks, or in some cases cross the Wye bridges before the other end gets the green light. On one occasion in Chepstow I got a earful from a driver who had a green, I'm not sure what he thought the car driver following me was doing. I must say, that even as a bike rider, I'm totally against the new 20mph limits, but might also mention that the limits only apply to motor vehicles, so not pedal cycles then.
@ralphcole674
Ай бұрын
I had to Google nob head. Here in the US, lots of people wearing road shoes don't stop for stop signs or traffic lights, presumably because they don't want to twist out of their pedals. Those of us wearing gravel shoes will gladly stop at traffic lights, but choose to slide through stop signs where there is no traffic. I think my riding style is a public statement so I'll go legal everywhere a car driver can see me. We're all in public relations when riding in public.
@mountainclimberzoom
Ай бұрын
#CaptionCompetition A few riders chose not to race in the Vuelta. When they saw the extremely high temps during the race, they were glad they mist it.
@Jorgytonton
Ай бұрын
Si cows won’t get as startled if you shout at them as you’re approaching. They’re used to people hollering at them.
@PRH123
Ай бұрын
What should one say to them?
@Jorgytonton
Ай бұрын
@@PRH123 Wooooooooooo!!!
@zevrobins905
Ай бұрын
#squirrels - i went for a run the other day and a squirrel was on the right side of the path. at first it chose to run up a nearby tree but instead ran back down the tree and between my legs mid-stride. i kicked the little creature rather hard by accident as it was between my legs and it went flying into a nearby bush, only to get back up and then ran back across the path and up the tree it started with... unpredictable and dangerous.
@johnstrac
Ай бұрын
The problem is that "knobs with bikes" are seen as "cyclists" and give the rest of us a bad name. Having said that, if I were to break a traffic rule or act irresponsibly I'd expect consequences.
@jeffscofield8077
Ай бұрын
Caption Competition: The city of Seville was obviously prematurely excited to have le Vuelta come to their town.
@dr_taka
Ай бұрын
Daemon Hill did l’etape and finished at the back but he finished stage 20 of TDF24 at his ripe old age !!! 🎉❤
@CarrieAnnJones-m9q
Ай бұрын
I dont get the issue with the 20 zones. Its a closed road. No way did they stick to 30s when they were 30 zones and they dont get fines for driving on the wrong side of the road or ignoring road markings. I do wonder if anyone has actually consulted the police on this or if its one massive assumption.
@shaunjohnson2288
Ай бұрын
Unpredictable animals. In my experience pheasants are the worst. They seem to have a death wish & run out I front of anything. Descending the Stang at 50mph on my bike I spied a pheasant. Luckily on this occasion it ran away.
@DavidFritzIII
Ай бұрын
I guess that fella on his phone was actually on a work call having not told his manager he's out cycling... he had to keep it together and couldn't risk it
@Ober1kenobi
Ай бұрын
Non cycling point Pedestrian point I hate that were treated like second class citizens. You come to some lights to cross, push the button, no cars around.. gotta wait until the pre determined sequence has run its course Like there isnt all these cameras and sensors everywhere, that are supposed to keep people safe, but only ever issue fines. We could you know, use these devices already in place, program them to talk to each other, like they do in Amsterdam and have a much more efficient system for everybody. Less road rage, less waiting, less bull 💩, but that would probably also come with less revenue being raised by police and traffic cameras etc. Almost like its set up by design, oh wait, it is
@blabla5604
Ай бұрын
Regarding the 20 mph speed limit interfering with a race: I feel like on a closed route, during a race, you could go faster than the speed limit. I don't see F1 cars going 20 mph in Monte Carlo during the annual race.
@wotexpat9367
Ай бұрын
Well, the Haas does.... :) Or Williams with (former driver) Logan S at the wheel... :)
@simonandrachelperchard5779
Ай бұрын
You can't always close roads in the UK.
@simonrook5743
Ай бұрын
What you feel isn’t impacting the law. Roads can be closed and allow speeding, as is the case with closed road rallies (Rali Ceredigion this weekend), but it needs concurrence by Parliament and also a full road closure which may be the issue as road races are a rolling road closure.
@_Tp___
Ай бұрын
My understanding is that bikes don't legally have to follow the speed limit anyway, so they're probably avoiding 20 mph speed limits to avoid controversy.
@Back2Basics1871
Ай бұрын
It's not a closed route, not entirely
@jeffparkinson7541
Ай бұрын
The irony of Si re-affirming his fear of cows whilst wearing an El-Toro shirt!
@gcn
Ай бұрын
Oh, the irony!
@peterleffler2062
Ай бұрын
Ironic. And for once the shirt was ironed! 😂
@berenicebaker7191
29 күн бұрын
@@peterleffler2062I think it was brand new
@verryd
Ай бұрын
Caption-competition #captioncompetition ‘The rain in Spain falls mainly on the chains’
@martintin250
Ай бұрын
The police need to sort out the law breaking motorists before tackling the cyclists.
@simonrook5743
Ай бұрын
Disagree, they are tackling law breaking drivers, some forces admittedly better than others but must be seen to be tackling all crime, if you ignore one crime it becomes rife (like illegal electric motorbikes in Warwickshire as the force is useless).
@mihaelverk9507
Ай бұрын
Yep, tackling different problems should not be sequential
@PRH123
Ай бұрын
Exactly what I was going to write. Sort out the cars, and the e-tards on illegal overpowered electro stuff, and then there would be some kind of moral right to discipline cyclists.
@kierenkd
Ай бұрын
The limit doesn't apply to cyclists, only motor vehicles but the race is flanked by support cars hence the problem
@lawman1965
Ай бұрын
The police do deal with drivers breaking the law. How do I know, I was a roads policing officer for the last 14 years of my career. I issued thousands of tickets, reported just as many to court and made a significant number of arrests for driving offences. My colleagues did the same. The issue is that there are not enough police officers to deal with everything that's thrown at them. There simply aren't enough roads policing officers to deal with every offence you see! As for cyclists breaking the rules. Yes, they should be prosecuted if they're committing offences. The law is the law and it should be enforced without fear or favour. No one group of road users should be immune to prosecution.
@Pionirish
Ай бұрын
Compulsory test, registration and insurance for drivers don't stop them speeding, running red lights and having generally inconsiderate behaviour on the road, so it seems unlikely there's anything that would make the same people suddenly behave when riding bikes.
@yannbachelot5178
Ай бұрын
Well the problem also lies in infrastructures not being adapted to cyclist. In my area in Germany lots of traffic lights have "weight detectors" to turn green only if a car is detected, usually when you are coming from a small road crossing a bigger one. As a cyclist the red light never detects you, therefore you can end up waiting basically forever, which can be frustrating... Also for instance when on a cycling lane, turning right at a red light into another cycling lane, you never cross the path of any car, therefore it represents no danger turning, even though not authorized by law. So the conclusion would be to adapt the infrastructure and a lot of infractions could be avoided!
@82vitt
Ай бұрын
Same in the UK. We call those vehicle detector loops. Usually there will always be a car approaching the junction at the same time I need to cross, but I have had a few cases when I simply had to make the crossing at a red, otherwise I would have been waiting there forever, or would have had to use the pedestrian crossing which is daft.
@stefanwieners1801
Ай бұрын
Fully agree. I also live in Germany and the bike paths are mostly in very bad shape and thus dangerous to ride with a road bike (I had a crash only a week ago when I hit a root). Nevertheless you get pulled over by the police when you do not use them. If the cycling infrastructure would be similar to what you see in the Netherlands or Belgium, rule breaking by cyclists would be a much smaller issue.
@better.better
Ай бұрын
I've figured out with magnetic loop detectors, sometimes if you pedal slowly while coasting up to the stop line through the magnetic sensor, sometimes (certainly not every time) the motion of the metal is enough to "disturb the force"and trigger the light. obviously this probably isn't going to happen with a carbon fiber or titanium frame. I've often wondered if it will trip if you put a copper coil
@robbie6638
Ай бұрын
I love the chemistry between Dan and Si.
@gcn
Ай бұрын
@berenicebaker7191
29 күн бұрын
I agree, absolutely priceless.
@averyhillroad235
Ай бұрын
At 33:00 Why didn't Dan tell the other rider "I usually burst into tears if I average below 20mph in the New Forest!" ??😅
@wertacus
Ай бұрын
I dont think I'd take a cow over a squirrel, but two squirrels have sacrificed themselves twice trying to end my career and cows have not
@gcn
Ай бұрын
We’re glad it didn’t end your career, but be careful... squirrels can be very vengeful
@filipruml
Ай бұрын
@@gcn That's for sure. I got too close to one and it bit my finger.
@JamesSmith-ly2ef
Ай бұрын
I didn’t think speed limits applied to cyclists in the UK, only for motor vehicles!
@Boopop1024
Ай бұрын
That's correct, but usually it doesn't cause an issue anyway as up until now it's been very very rare for a cyclist competing in a race to break 30mph. Event organisers know that speed limits don't apply to cyclists but also know it's a bad look for all their events' participants to be going faster than motor traffic.
@cruachan1191
Ай бұрын
In the case of the Tour of Wales, the issue was the support vehicles not being able to keep up with the riders through the 20mph limit sections.
@forestgump99
Ай бұрын
Surely if the road is closed for the race then usual speed limits need not apply @cruachan1191
@roberteltze4850
Ай бұрын
@@cruachan1191 if it's a closed course even the support vehicles should be able to exceed the speed limit. You don't see the Isle of Man races restricting vehicles to the speed limit.
@cruachan1191
Ай бұрын
@@roberteltze4850 That was the reason given in the story on the BBC website, I can't post the link as KZitem won't allow it but should be easy to find. The Isle of Man is covered by different laws from mainland Britain, and there are no upper speed limits outside the towns even outwith the TT.
@anthonygain7645
29 күн бұрын
Words matter. Anything that has a throttle and does not need to be peddled is NOT a bicycle, please call it what it is, an electric motorbike. If the industry uses the wrong terms, then the media will use the wrong terms and people will lump e-bikes into the electric motorbike category and start to make stupid rules for the wrong people.
@ellerybice3787
Ай бұрын
Getting yellow card for being rude to a spectator? 🤷🏼♂️ Keep the spectator to keep out of the way and not taunt the riders. Give the spectator a lashing card. 🤬
@jesuspascualcamino
Ай бұрын
Dan telling the story of how he slowed down to let the other guy overtake him and take the front really made me laugh, great story : )
@kaidean
Ай бұрын
Dan is on fire this week! Comedy gold is POURING out of him! I particulary enjoyed "I just take a key to the house!"
@JammyRand
Ай бұрын
As someone who commutes to work and basically anywhere I go I do occasionally run red lights depending on the situation. I stop peddling and come to around 5-8km an hour, look around, and continue to go cautiously. I work until 9:30-11ish at night often and most of my journey is on pretty empty streets with lights that sometimes take 20-30 seconds to change. Which is just brutal. I really don’t think I’m putting anyone at risk when I do this. The streets are basically empty in my residential area at that time and when there is a car just treat it by the “law”
@rnedisc
Ай бұрын
There's also so many completely useless traffic lights for cyclists around me that you can't help but ignore some of them. Some on a bike lane crossing a one way street that almost never has a car. All you'd have to do as a cyclist is look one way and if there's no car just go. But "technically" you're running a red light. Another one on a crossroads. But for a cyclist crossing one way the entire rest of the crossroads goes on red. So if you're a cyclist crossing the other way you can just look to your left, see if the light's green and just safely go straight.
@jonathanbouchard39
Ай бұрын
You are probably more at risk stopping, and being rear-ended by a driver either running the red light or aiming to stop a bit beyond the white line.
@凸Bebo凸
Ай бұрын
What you are describing is called the Idaho Stop and is the correct way to negotiate a red light or stop sign on a bicycle. Don't let anyone shame you out of it. Don't worry about the legal status of it. If the cops pull you over for it just pay the fine and don't worry, it's worth the money to lower your chance of getting rear ended at a stop by 40%.
@averyhillroad235
Ай бұрын
I managed to p*ss off the whole UK Police force, when I pointed out they were breaking a road traffic law. In December 2018 I raised the issue of display screens in vehicles and regulation 109. At that point, the UK Police force realized they were diving police cars illegally when using the ANPR system. Following my contact, all officers were issued with a warning about Reg. 109. In November 2020, emergency legislation was passed in Parliament (vehicle special order, Police Vehicles) amending Reg. 109, so that the Police could drive their Police cars legally 😊
@CyclingInfraAudit
Ай бұрын
I believe the Police are modifying all thier ANPR systems to switch off the display above 8mph, because of this law.
@Still_Dracco
Ай бұрын
Lots of talking points this week! I grew up in the 1950s and '60s in the Channel Island of Jersey. At that time it was compulsory for cyclists to display a licence/number plate. This was a small rectangular metal frame approximately 7x10cm (portrait orientation) into which a pink paper licence card was slid. A new licence card had to be purchased each year (it cost 6d in pre-decimal currency). At some time in the early '60s the requirement to display this was abandoned because it cost the government more to manufacture these than they received in income.
@Still_Dracco
Ай бұрын
And finally.....on 20mph speed limits. It's my understanding that the 20mph speed limit does not apply to cyclists, and that the reason for the course alterations in the Welsh race was because the supporting vehicles would have been breaking the speed limit, not the cyclists. (At least, this is what was reported by the BBC).
@travisspuhler7065
Ай бұрын
And yet Italy or France or Spain somehow manage to waive traffic tickets off of cameras when the whole peloton rips through one of their villages? I dunno, it just smacks of anti cycling sentiment
@simonrook5743
Ай бұрын
@@travisspuhler7065it’s different laws in different countries.
@kurtroeder8785
Ай бұрын
Klein bikes had rear-facing dropouts and internally routed cables; I think that hack/bodge was something else. I've still got my old Klein. It's pretty sweet.
@ChrisCapoccia
Ай бұрын
The speed limit is a weird race problem. Closed roads should not be governed by speed limits
@simonrook5743
Ай бұрын
Well that’s the problem, road traffic laws in the U.K. can be waved for a fully closed road event, but road races are not on fully closed roads but a rolling road closure and my understanding that that was the problem.
@Still_Dracco
Ай бұрын
On "rogue cyclists". I must have been one of these in my youth: I was stopped by a policeman in around 1972/73 when cycling up the A420 in Oxford, on a stretch of road that was designated as a bus lane. That was before town planners came to their senses and sensibly permitted cyclists to share bus lanes as in now common in the UK. I got a mild ticking off and was told to push my bike the remaining 60 metres to a point where the bus lane disappeared. It didn't help that this occurred pretty much exactly outside the St. Aldate's Police Station. Did I learn my lesson? Well, I took the precaution of making sure that there weren't any bobbies coming out of the cop shop as I approached this stretch of road on future occasions.
@mikebroadbent2694
Ай бұрын
I grew up in Oxford - by the time I was riding in town you could use the bus lanes, but Cornmarket had been pedestrianised. My mates and I used to regularly ride through it, keeping a beady eye out for the Bobbies. It wasn't uncommon for us to be caught and sent back to the start of the road and made to walk all the way down it... :D
@LWemel
Ай бұрын
Living in Belgium I often break the law while cycling even when I'm doing my best to follow them. The road infrastructure for cyclists changes too frequently, eg where you are allowed to cycle, on which side of the road, on pavement or on the street, etc. When doing longer distances it is a nightmare. Sometimes I'm cycling on the cycling path when suddenly it disappears where a couple 100 m further you realize you need to cycle on the narrow cycling path on the other side of the road. Additionally it feels that the road infrastructure introduces risks for cyclists where it's not required. Uneven pavement in the direction of travel, cycling paths that suddenly become narrow. Cycling path in between parked cars and blind driveway exits. If we put as much thought and consistency into the road infrastructure for cyclist as we do for vehicles i truly believe a lot of the problems would disappear. But until that day I would urge all cyclists to follow the rules as best as they can and ask drivers to be forgiving when they see a cyclist who isn't following the rules perfectly. Can the police sanction excesses they spot. Sure
@stefanwieners1801
Ай бұрын
...and Belgium is already much better compared to most other countries in Europe...
@edwardmacrury5376
Ай бұрын
Excellent episode, good to see Si & Dan laugh so much. Great job.
@wandering_pete
Ай бұрын
To legally drive a car on your own in the UK you require: - a Full License having passed both the theory and practical test. - valid insurance - a valid MOT - a vehicle in a roadworthy condition. - to obey the Highway Code and traffic laws, e.g. obey the speed limit, etc. Yet, thousands of drivers drive on the roads having failed to do one or more of these things. Those who argue cyclists should be license and have a registration plate ignore the fact that those intent on breaking the law will do so, even if they can be traced.
@rob-c.
Ай бұрын
Obviously a good number of drivers do conform to all/most of these requirements and therefore it’s great that we have them - so it *could* improve *some* cyclists as well. It certainly does prove that implementing it for cyclists wouldn’t be the panacea most people think it would though.
@PRH123
Ай бұрын
It's not so much that as the possible impact of a violation. Automobile violations have a great chance of causing death and injury. Whereas for example a pedestrian walking incorrectly has little chance of injuring anyone (unless it's the pedestrian themselves getting in front of a vehicle). Similarly there's not much chance of death or serious injury as a result of a human powered bicycle riding deviation (again only if they get mixed up with a motor vehicle). There's little sense therefore in applying rules devised for motor vehicles to human powered bicycles.
@joinride_cc
Ай бұрын
#captionCompetition: "Caution: Slipstream when wet"
@flavioteures9917
Ай бұрын
Police profile of cyclists is an issue everywhere in Texas
@DC-ul3wq
Ай бұрын
FYI Knox is the first *male* rider to be issued a yellow card. Two weeks ago “Barbara Guarischi became the first pro cyclist to receive a yellow card. During the sprint of Stage 2 of the Tour de France Femmes, she removed her hands from the handlebars while still in the pack. The UCI cited her for “improper conduct that endangers others in the final sprint,” under Article 2.12.007.8.2-1.” (Source: Cycling news)
@averyhillroad235
Ай бұрын
Beetroot boost: for the Nitrate to be transformed into Nitrite, requires mixing with the bacteria in the mouth. So 'necking' b.juice may not result in this transformation. Connor should properly masticate on whole beetroot (preferably home cooked) sometime after brushing his teeth. This is because many toothpastes have antibacterial agents.
@jerryyoung6494
Ай бұрын
I was stopped by police for running a red light. No traffic, and the light is triggered by a pressure sensor. Bikes not heavy enough to trigger the light to turn green. Not heavy enough even with disk brakes! If a car comes up behind me I’m in the way for cars to reach the sensor. Officer didn’t like my logic, and said I had to get off the bike and walk across the lane. He didn’t care about the damage to my shoes or the fact I would have to do this every half mile or so.
@km09876-t
Ай бұрын
I think he's probably right to not care about your shoes.Imagine standing up in court and using shoe damage as your defence!!!!
@gcn
Ай бұрын
Not even with disc brakes-now that sounds like a problem.
@a1white
Ай бұрын
Nice to hear Dan is out riding his bike with Si again. Like the old GCN days 🙂
@blakegoodwin3591
Ай бұрын
I’ve been watching just about everything GCN for ~8+ years now, I love you guys. But why the hell can’t you keep your lighting consistent after all this time……????
@andywalford7544
Ай бұрын
Here in Oz , kangaroos and wallabies behave just like giant squirrels….care required!
@gcn
Ай бұрын
I think a kangaroo would definitely be more dangerous than a cow and a squirrel combined. I can't imagine encountering one of those in the middle of the road.
@gethind-j2390
Ай бұрын
20mph limit in Wales resulted in 23% reduction in deaths and serious accidents.
@a1white
Ай бұрын
That’s really positive to hear
@peterleffler2062
Ай бұрын
It is good that casualties are down but OMG it's slow when you drive! 😂
@Stephen-nq5kd
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition: when asked what his favorite part of todays stage was, Mike Woods replied, “The Hosers eh”
@Mavrik-60
Ай бұрын
That cow was simply playing nock over the humans with it's mates. That cow won too by the by. Keepemcoming
@lux-wattage
Ай бұрын
You should be cautious around cows. Just last week, a 67-year-old hiker was tragically attacked and killed by cows in a nature reserve in Limburg, the Netherlands.
@a1white
Ай бұрын
Passed a guy on the C4 cycle path in London the other day, wizzing along on an illegal e-bike not pedalling, after being behind him for half a mile. I asked him why he had pedals as he clearly doesn’t use them. 😡
@MichaelGermain-mk2bc
Ай бұрын
In Germany if you break the laws of the road while riding you will be ticketed and can even have your driver's license revoked.
@Eapguy
Ай бұрын
I live in Chicago, where the police have been on quiet strike for several years. No need to worry about them enforcing laws against anybody, let alone bicyclists
@travisspuhler7065
Ай бұрын
I live near tacoma, WA and it's the same here. If I'm doing 10 over on surface streets, I'm getting passed like I'm standing still. On highways definitely so. People in cars, especially lifted trucks, are so arrogant and entitled that they will rage and aggressively push their way through ANY traffic they can. And never mind keeping your license plate tabs up to date, probably a third of all vehicles I see are operating on expired tabs. And, it's actually a primary offense here, so cops CAN pull you over solely for that reason
@fb19700101
Ай бұрын
I think if you got a cow through your spokes, it might be a bit uncomfortable.
@bryanthomas3687
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition Racing in this heat!!!?? Water you crazy??!!
@brianorourke4541
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition: Another yellow card issued at the Vuelta as a sudden gust of wind causes a nature break to go horribly wrong
@Boopop1024
Ай бұрын
-Run a red light while riding my bike at a walking pace, and not only am I breaking the law, many would think what I've done is morally wrong. -Walk past the same red light (especially when it's roadworks) on the road with my bicycle beside me, and and it's perfectly legal. Do people think that's morally wrong too? Also cycling on the footway is technically illegal in the UK, but in the past a minister and a police chief have said the only reason it's illegal is so they have something to tackle cyclists behaving dangerously on pavements with. Something something motonormativity, cyclist hating, ethics, etc.
@JamesGoesOutside
Ай бұрын
Exactly. I'll frequently go through red lights on my bike if it doesn't endanger other road users or myself, because in many situations it's just silly to stop and wait. I am not in a car, yet the rules of the road and infrastructure design expect me to behave like I am in a car. My rule of thumb is, "if it would be safe for me to proceed in this situation as a pedestrian, then I'll proceed with caution, at a walking pace on my bicycle". Example 1: At a cross junction, if lights are red on all 4 sides for traffic but green for pedestrians, I'll wait until pedestrians are clear and then I will go through slowly. Example 2: At a standard pedestrian crossing from one side of the road to the other, if the light is red for traffic, I'll stop, but once pedestrians have crossed I'll go through. Example 3: At a T junction, I come to a red light, but there is no traffic. I'd cross if I was on foot so why not on wheels? I'll never just fly blindly at speed into a junction through a red light (like you do see some people doing). That's asking for trouble. I still get shouted at sometimes for going through red lights by other road users, but I'm not going to behave like I'm in a car, when I'm not in a car and I don't pose the same risks to pedestrians as I would do if I was in a car. As l long as I'm giving way to more vulnerable road users and proceeding with caution, I don't see a problem with this and think it's a waste of police time to clamp down on people doing this, outside of say a few junctions in London that are heaving with pedestrians.
@alexbizkit79
Ай бұрын
@@JamesGoesOutside Amen. People so often treat all versions of 'going through a red light' as the same, despite the fact there is clearly a spectrum. Also, a cyclist stopping at a red light and then slowly proceeding through it if there's nothing coming, prompts vitriol from people, but a motorist speeding up as the lights are changing, and speeding through just after they've changed to red, is infinitely more dangerous, and yet never, ever gets remarked on.
@JamesGoesOutside
Ай бұрын
@@alexbizkit79 100% agree. The amount of times I've nearly been hit by a motorist that speeds through a red light a couple of seconds after it's changed is the reason why I cycle with a camera. People also forget that there are basically only two reasons we have traffic lights: 1) To control the flow of MOTOR VEHICLES so that people outside of MOTOR VEHICLES can cross the road without getting hit by MOTOR VEHICLES. 2) To control the flow of MOTOR VEHICLES so that MOTOR VEHICLES can maneovre through junctions without getting hit by MOTOR VEHICLES. Wherever there are no motor vehicles, we don't need traffic lights. I know that sound stupid to point out, but it is relevant, because we don't make traffic lights in response to dangers posed by bicycles. Bicycles are NOT motor vehicles and do not pose the same risks. Bicycles are much more similar to pedestrians than cars and we should allow them to behave more like pedestrians at junctions. Or better yet, build more CYLOPS style junctions that allow bicycles their own lane and the ability to turn left without a traffic light. TL;DR - Traffic lights are for motor vehicles.
@ptmountford
Ай бұрын
You might have rules for going through red lights, but does someone watching you know that when they get on a bike and follow your example?
@JamesGoesOutside
Ай бұрын
@@ptmountford Are you asking me if other road users are mind readers? You know the answer to that. Every road user should always use their own brain and senses to come to their own decisions. If I just blindly follow the person in front of me into danger without using my own brain and senses, I don't just get to blame them if something happens to me. If it's safe for me to go, it doesn't necessarily mean that it's safe for the person behind me to go. People cross the road all the time before a green man comes if its safe to go, and most people don't have a problem with that.
@MggW
Ай бұрын
There's something rather ironic about Si talking about his fear of cows ... while wearing a tshirt with a bull on it! 🐄🐄
@PhyllisBoone-sn8oi
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂❤
@eddiewards123
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition nearly 50 degrees heat? No way hosé?!
@bikeskimawk670
Ай бұрын
B i k E NICE. Ride to the level of your smile. Ride in a way that makes all others smile too.
@DG-tf9rp
Ай бұрын
Si is afraid of cows, but he is wearing a Bull on his shirt?🐂
@AwesomeLegoman1000
Ай бұрын
As a cyclist in north Wales I have to say im not finding the 20mph limit safer. I tend to see alot more of cars overtaking and the immediately slamming on their brakes. Also alot more cars driving alond side me and then slowly closing the door instead of just overtaking. Fortunately I only have 3 miles of town to ride through before hitting beautiful countryside where all the nobheads can be forgotten about.
@CrossHandsRider
Ай бұрын
It's the same in south west Wales too. More close passing seems to have been the effect of 20mph or cars riding your back wheel. I definitely don't feel any safer.
@sn0tkore
Ай бұрын
Living in Cambridge you can sit at any junction and watch cyclists break the rules by the minute. Not to mention the illegal ebikes, scooters cyclists without lights, etc. lots of this comes down to education, make riding road safety part of the PE curriculum.
@catherinebrennan3342
Ай бұрын
That Phil Gaimon show was a lesson in keeping your cool under intolerable pressure. He is so good at implying outrage without blowing up. And cows, my friends, are very dangerous. I was gored by a beast while visiting India which proves that sacredness is very far from godliness.
@PRH123
Ай бұрын
She probably identified you as a foreign meat eater, and took action accordingly :)
@catherinebrennan3342
Ай бұрын
@@PRH123😂
@a1white
Ай бұрын
Omg yes, squirrels running into wheels. Why do they do this?! 🤦♂️
@gcn
Ай бұрын
Could it be that your freehub makes a sound similar to mating calls? 🤔
@sybrenkoninckx
Ай бұрын
we adults try to keep it safe and all that but mostly young kids are gunna do bad things and the goverment is gunna abuse that and punish us all like they use too. im holding my breath for when the bike police is gunna start existing. i know its a bit much what i say but its totaly possible.
@Realciderreviews
Ай бұрын
There are some roads that are so poorly designed that breaking the rules is safer or possible the only way to get through that area
@gregknipe8772
Ай бұрын
you two are great together. thank you.
@easternbrown
Ай бұрын
#captioncompetition: To be fair to the organizers, once you do start on extreme weather protocols you quickly find it's a slippery slope
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