You should really know it's easy when a former rocket scientist says it's not rocket science 😂😂
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That was the goal 😉
@sargothi
Ай бұрын
I own a 4090, 7900xtx and a 7900xt. Best price to performance is definitely Radeon right now.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I completely agree ... AMD is competing with price ... I truly hope that their next gen cards will help them compete on features as well to help force Nvidia to drop prices.
@IndoHelleneBall
Ай бұрын
thanks for calling me poor
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@IndoHelleneBallno one is calling you poor … AMD is using a chiplet design for their GPU’s which helps to reduce the manufacturing costs … they were caught flat footed when Nvidia went all in on Ray Tracing and upscaling … they are catching up … my hope is that when their features match Nvidia they will force them to lower prices. No one likes spending $2K on a graphics card, regardless of how much money you have.
@IndoHelleneBall
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech nah bro im kidding, there is just a joke in the pc building community that if someone says/shoes them having like a ton of expensive gpus then they are practically calling you poor
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@IndoHelleneBallI’ve seen people call AMD owners poor, which is pretty stupid (that’s what I thought you were saying) … owning lots of GPU’s is actually a good way to go poor … ask me how I know 😉
@qaching
Ай бұрын
wtf how the fuck did you got bruce buffer to show up in this video???
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
When I had the idea for this series I thought it would be cool, so I sent his team a request and he was super nice about it … really awesome guy.
@astheworldlearns
Ай бұрын
I bought a 7900 gre early this year for $550 and am very happy with how the value has held up
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It’s a great card … I’m glad they decided to release it in the US/West given that it was originally supposed to be a China exclusive.
@drew2626
Ай бұрын
What model?
@astheworldlearns
Ай бұрын
@@drew2626 sapphire pulse 7900 gre, seems to have gone up in price
@K.R.98
Ай бұрын
I bought a used RX6900XT. It’s on par with RX7900gre and RTX4070super. But I agree. AMD provides better fps for your money. RX7900gre is definitely a good new card. I also like the features of adrenaline software very much. 🎉
@drew2626
Ай бұрын
@@K.R.98 not from the benchmarks I’ve seen, 6950 XT beats the 7900 GRE in 1080p but at 1440p or 4K I’m seeing the GRE ahead of 6900XT/6950XT
@1benhouston1
Ай бұрын
Had me at “Former rocket scientist.” I’m invested.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Welcome to the Blackbird PC Tech community!
@Cristian-em5wc
Ай бұрын
Same situation as back in 2018 when I snatched an rx580 8 GB for 200€. Everyone was shouting 1060 is way better, that 6 GB of vram are more than enough, that drivers, etc. I didn’t want to pay 250-300 for the 1060, so I went AMD. Still running this GPU today with no issues and enough performance for my needs, definitely it was the better choice.
@qamararfin7534
8 күн бұрын
@@Cristian-em5wc same
@unclebear4806
Ай бұрын
Different market will affect price per performance differently. I live in Thailand. Here on average, RX7900 GRE is roughly 3,000Bath ($80-$85) cheaper than RTX4070 Super of the equivalent model, if you can find one. Every time RX7900 GRE hit the shelf, it was snatch with in couple of days or less. While RTX4070 Super are very plentiful. You can just go to the shop anytime and there will always be a decent numbers of RTX4070 Super card to choose from.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That's very true ... in the video I recommended that AMD drop the price of the 7900 GRE by $50 to compete better, which would make it about $80 cheaper than the 4070 Super ... the price difference you mention ... with the result that it becomes much better value and they can't keep it on the shelf.
@davidmustaine2921
Ай бұрын
not here in NZ cheapest new 7900GRE I seen was $1350 NZD, cheapest new 4070 Super is 1250 such as mine the Gigabyte Windforce OC 4070 Super, so $100 cheaper than 7900GRE. remember new zealand prices look pretty inflated cause NZ dollar not very strong against US or even Australian dollar.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@davidmustaine2921 then I would definitely get the 4070 Super at that price.
@InvestDiva
Ай бұрын
Great to see the UpcFC series back 🥊
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It has certainly been a while 😉
@wh3resmycar
Ай бұрын
problem with that 4070/S is that 12GB buffer would hurt you in the long run. it's true with the 3070/3080 where they get beaten by the 6700/6800 after a couple of years.
@Fronioll9973
Ай бұрын
7900 gre gives u 30 fps in 1440p if vram goes above 13
@wh3resmycar
Ай бұрын
@@Fronioll9973 which games? the ones with RT?
@Fronioll9973
Ай бұрын
@@wh3resmycar lol all latest games have rt . but i am talking about raster . bcs 12gb for a game in 1440p with raster and even with rt is enough but ya 4k u cant do properly bcs of vram , tho 7900 gre isnt a 4k card so it doesnt matter. and 4070 super is only 50 usd more than 7900 gre . if the diff is more than 100 usd in your country buy 7900 gre its a beast of a card if u dont care abt rt
@killkiss_son
Ай бұрын
@@Fronioll9973 the 7900 GRE gets at least 30 FPS in every game at 4K even with RT so it definitely is a 4K GPU.
@wh3resmycar
Ай бұрын
@@Fronioll9973 not sure if you actually understand what you're saying you said the GRE gets 30 fps in 1440p if vrams goes above 13. i own a 7800xt, i never experienced what you're saying.
@mehirplays8084
8 күн бұрын
I just build my first pc with 7900gre and with 7800x3D.and holy it just blows 1440p display. Really happy.I was also recommended 4070 super but it only has 12gb vram. I researched so much about these 2 cards and ended on 7900gre. 4070s is 90$ more expensive in India.From that money I got razer mouse keyboard headphone combo.😊
@blackbirdpctech
8 күн бұрын
Great choice, at that price difference I would select the GRE too!
@Raaj913
2 күн бұрын
Which board did you used for 7800x3d
@kwispykweme8791
Ай бұрын
Great test , but the bruce buffer segment was peak
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
He is a great guy 😉
@bigno1900
Ай бұрын
4070 super is $1 more than a 7900GRE at my region.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s a great deal for the 4070 Super.
@CourageOO7
Ай бұрын
A monopoly is never good for the consumer. I like that AMD offers cards like this, but the next product cycle really makes me nervous. Without a flagship product to fight back at Nvidia, and with the heavy emphasis on AI processing, I'm worried that high end cards will soar to costs that are out of reach for all but the wealthiest power users. I have to keep supporting AMD, if only on principle, for now.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I’m concerned about AMD not competing at the high end for the 8000 series but if they are doing it to better prepare for a future onslaught with the 9000 series then so be it. In the meantime we might get lucky with Battlemage helping to bring the prices down for 70/80 series cards. We will unfortunately be screwed at the high end and subject to Nvidia price gouging.
@MrSatan11
Ай бұрын
I love this video, I have the exact same problem, going with the 7900 gre or the 4070 super, both are good gpu’s. I am going for a 1440p gaming computer, and right now the gre is going for $509, I am still on the edge, but leaning towards the gre.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It's actually not a bad problem to have because both options imo are good ... let me know what you end up going with.
@iskreemrex
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech i just bought the 7900 gre hellhound
@Shimmy2x
25 күн бұрын
@@iskreemrex how is it so far ? I’m between the 4070/7800xt/7900 gre
@Tiber234
21 күн бұрын
I was in the same position two months ago (which did you select?) Reasons I opted for the 7900GRE, I liked the price and the additional 4G of VRAM, Ray Tracing for me is still a gimmick Ive no use for it so that was never a factor and finally Id switched to AMD's 3700X processor 4years and its served me well so I felt comfortable brand jumping.
@MrSatan11
21 күн бұрын
@@Tiber234The 7900 gre is just really good for everything, I also don’t really care for ray tracing and most of the time I probably won’t even play those games. Also it’s cheaper with more vram and porformance. So yeah I went with the 7900 gre.
@nolanroube1009
Сағат бұрын
I'm going to buy a 7900 GRE. He's OC capacities are very high !
@blackbirdpctech
47 минут бұрын
The 7900 GRE typically does well with undervolting and memory overclocking however, your results will be somewhat dependent on silicon quality so don't get disappointed if your card doesn't OC as well as a card you see online.
@serixg
5 күн бұрын
Depends a lot where you live, I bought a 7900GRE just because the 4070S was around 100 USD more expensive (living in europe btw). After 2 months of usage and playing around with voltages and clocks I gotta say, the GRE is a BEAST and probably the extra RAM will keep it this way for a long time
@blackbirdpctech
5 күн бұрын
It performs really well with an undervolt and memory overclock.
@Dreamlink91
27 күн бұрын
I got brand new RX 7900 GRE for the same price on discount as a brand new RX 7800 XT for super cheap and it is few % faster. Running everything on max at 3440x1440 no problem and picture quality and color contrast is way better on radeon than nvidia 3060 i had.
@blackbirdpctech
27 күн бұрын
Sounds like a great deal … the 7900 GRE makes the 7800 XT obsolete if they are priced the same.
@Soso64bit
Ай бұрын
AMD consistently adds AAA game bundles as well, adding more value.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s true however it’s tough to add as part of the value comparison because Nvidia does it sometimes too. That said if they have a bundle with a game you want it can be a great deal.
@kkmcgamer
Ай бұрын
I just got a 4070 super, came from at gtx 1650. I just hope the 12 gb of vram doesn’t become a huge issue in a few years.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It’s a great card, I think you will be fine.
@thelonercoder5816
Ай бұрын
It will in some games at 1440p and especially 4k
@PrrOPHET-no6qe
Ай бұрын
7900 gre with memory overclock, almost performs as good as a stock 7900xt. that wins it for the 7900 gre
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Memory overclock and undervolt ... all 7000 series cards that I've tested benefit a lot from a simple undervolt.
@tadejloncar
28 күн бұрын
@@PrrOPHET-no6qe Overclock a 4070 Super and you get 10% more performance and match a 4070ti. Your point?
@gavin9174
Ай бұрын
should i just get the gre since i dont care about all the bells and whistles from nvdia and its cheaper. going from 3060ti to one of these
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That would be a big upgrade from a 3060 Ti … if it’s $50+ cheaper then I think it’s a better choice.
@diegomazziotta3386
Ай бұрын
This was really useful, especially enjoyed how you presented the information. Got the 7900GRE recently for $550 even though the 4070super was only $50 more at $600. I have an ultrawide monitor and hoping the extra bit of VRAM helps in that regard. Also never used an AMD card before, only one way to really find out if it "crashes" and if the drivers are inferior to Nvidia drivers as everyone likes to say. I just want a card I can plug in, if need be do an easy auto OC like the AMD-undervolt, put it on ultra settings, and then enjoy without having to mess with anything else. I feel like you can always wait for the next best thing another year or overanalyze it to death. Saying you pretty much can't go wrong with either is not bad even though it would be easier if there was a clear favorite to make it easy to pick. Thanks again, great info in 15 minutes!
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
As someone that has used cards from AMD and Nvidia extensively I can genuinely say that I like the AMD Adrenalin software better. The new App from Nvidia is great but its in beta and doesn't yet offer the features that AMD software offers. With respect to driver stability or quality I've had issues with both ... the thing I've noticed is that it typically takes AMD a little longer to release a new driver version when they have an issue versus Nvidia, who will release a fix almost instantly. So don't worry too much about the software, you should be good.
@noyan1123
Ай бұрын
I owned a rx6700xt and paid 330 bucks and now upgraded for a new rtx 4070 super for 480 bucks. I think its a great deal for this gpu. But rx7900gre is still a great card
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Great deal and I agree, I think both cards are good options.
@testAccount-eb2ve
Ай бұрын
Great video! I think you should make a tutorial on how to build a pc, i think that will help a lot of the newcomers who want to switch over to pc from other platforms
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s a great idea … it’s on my list together with part 2 - how to install and setup windows. Appreciate your feedback.
@Tantemify
4 күн бұрын
i think we should all wait for the rtx 50 series. its not too far of and this current line up of gpus is actually weak in terms of price to performance
@blackbirdpctech
4 күн бұрын
The current rumor is that Nvidia is stopping production of the 4090 next month ... that would mean a 5090 isn't getting released until late this year or early next year. That would also mean that the 70 series will likely be later in Q1 2025. So if you don't need to upgrade then waiting is fine, but if you do then I would recommend buying now. That would still give you the option to sell and upgrade in the future when newer models become available.
@choosetolivefree
Ай бұрын
Seriously got Bruce? Whaaaat. Here I am a life long computer nerd, considering what AMD tech has to offer.. but I also happen to be a pretty big UFC fan, and here is my man Bruce. Hahahah love it
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Yes, he is actually a really nice guy ... was super cool when I approached him about doing this and was really supportive.
@leeabrahams9889
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech just assumed it was a deep fake.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@leeabrahams9889it’s actually him … pretty sure I would get in trouble if I used AI to do it and he found out.
@mortonlillico1576
26 күн бұрын
great video! my question is which would you suggest to stream and game from? i have a ryzen 7 5800x3d and looking to get either of one of these cards
@blackbirdpctech
26 күн бұрын
That really depends on the software you plan to use ... typically the software you use will favor one of the cards more than the other and Nvidia usually has an advantage in this area.
@mortonlillico1576
26 күн бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech wow thanks for the quick reply, i use obs and will be looking to stream out at 1080p so youd suggest the 4070 super over the 7900 gre for streaming and gaming simultaneously?
@blackbirdpctech
26 күн бұрын
I use OBS with both cards but I don't stream yet (so take my recommendation with a grain of salt), just recording and for that both are fine. I would favor the 4070 Super for streaming while gaming ... based on what I read online the experience is better.
@AdrianusTirta
Ай бұрын
I just upgraded my GPU from GTX 1070 into 7900 GRE. In my country there was 60 USD price different.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think anything over $50 makes the GRE a better buy.
@vvsvv-e7c
Ай бұрын
quick question what is easier to overclock Nvidia or amd gpu
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
For manual overclocking it’s the same process for any gpu so it doesn’t really matter. For automatic overclocking the AMD software is better.
@joelfernando1
Ай бұрын
You cant overclock Amd 💩
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That is simply not true … please don’t spread misinformation on my channel.
@othonkach
18 күн бұрын
@@joelfernando1 i doubt you know anything about technology since you post under a rock buddy
@songulakdemir946
Ай бұрын
I want to buy a card for my first build but I don’t know wich one to buy. The gre here is around 575-600 and the super around 600. I will probably only play games but mostly AAA games
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
If they are similarly priced then I would likely get the 4070 Super … or get a top brand gre and auto undervolt it
@songulakdemir946
Ай бұрын
Thank you. I know I ask many questions but how long would 12gb vram last for?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
No one can give you an accurate answer to that question ... the reality is you can reduce your VRAM needs by dialing down your game settings so you can make it last if you are willing to give up image quality in future games.
@freedom_fighta
12 күн бұрын
It literally says on the box that the GRE is not compatible with RT, and you enable it. Not very clever. The reason why people buy the 7900 GRE is because it is way cheaper than the 4070 S in most countries and it has exceptional overclock potential. When the 7900 GRE is overclocked correctly the 4070 S cant even be compared.
@blackbirdpctech
12 күн бұрын
Not only is that wrong, it literally says "Ray Tracing" on the box as a feature it supports. Ray Tracing is simply a way of generating a 3D image and is vastly superior to rasterization that uses polygons to approximate a 3D image. Furthermore, stating that an overclocked GRE magically puts it in a class of performance above a 4070 Super is also wrong ... you can definitely get a boost in performance, but you can also overclock a 4070 S, so your statement is extremely misleading. One thing I don't allow on my channel is people that spread misinformation, so take this as a warning. I don't have an issue with you sharing an opinion but don't try to present it as fact, especially one that is easily disproven.
@JaxsonSer
Ай бұрын
Just built a new pc with a 7900 gre a month ago the card in my opinion has really great overclock potential and I think really blows the 4070 super out of the water in terms of value and ability
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think the card performs extremely well with an undervolt ... probably something AMD should consider turning on by default given the increase in performance.
@k1cs1m3a8
Ай бұрын
Would not say. I had a 7900nitro+ fully overclocked and was head to head with a tuned 4070super. But u lose the superior upscaler and get worst rt performance.
@yacquubfarah6038
Ай бұрын
@@k1cs1m3a8xess 1.3 gets very close to dlss and RT has good implementations in a handful of games. If you win the silicon lottery you can get a +15% oc if not maybe around 12%. Around 5% faster than an oc’d 4070 super with a regular oc and 7~8% if you get a lottery card.
@PrrOPHET-no6qe
Ай бұрын
People should stop looking for upscalers after paying 500+$ ,if it can't do it in native, it's not good enough
@k1cs1m3a8
Ай бұрын
@@PrrOPHET-no6qe lol, that mentality kills the internet. Do you know that will be the future? So whats gonna happen now? Are u gonna stop playing????? Wowwwww
@DavideDavini
Ай бұрын
Yesterday I fixed an old MBP and put Linux on it. First thing I did was to install Steam. 😂 Everything was so easy and streamlined that I had the impulse to go look for a replacement for my old 1650S to go back playing games on my desktop computer. I looked on Amazon for a 7900 GRE. 650 euros. Holy cream cheese jesus. I quickly realized I prefer to spend my money on something else. Too rich for me. Cheers.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
The new gen cards are expensive ... I remember getting a GTX 580 for $500 ... an equivalent GPU today (4080S/7900 XTX) is double that price. I will have to give Linux a shot ... what version did you install?
@DavideDavini
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech yeah, I looked into used as well but they’re still too expensive. RE: Linux - I installed the latest Ubuntu, 24.04. Cheers mate.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@DavideDavini thanks … I might do a Linux versus Windows comparison for gaming in a future video … should be interesting.
@DavideDavini
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech that’d be dope. You earned a sub mate! Cheers!
@sasatodorovic9056
11 күн бұрын
l ordered auros RTX4070 super upgrade from 980ti using it around 9 years :)
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
Your 980Ti lasted a long time ... this will be a large performance upgrade ... enjoy!
@sasatodorovic9056
11 күн бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech l hope so, but l using 8700k (4,7ghz) with z370 mobo l hope l will not get huge bottlenack.
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
It depends on the resolution and graphics settings you plan to play at
@sasatodorovic9056
11 күн бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech 1440p Hght dont care for max settings just want to use pc as long as possble
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
@@sasatodorovic9056 you should be ok ... try monitoring your GPU/CPU load with a tool like HWiNFO when you run a game ... if your CPU is too heavily loaded and/or your GPU not fully loaded then you might actually want to consider increasing your settings.
@MoominBoomin
19 күн бұрын
you can purchase the 7900GRE currently for 530$!
@blackbirdpctech
19 күн бұрын
That’s a great buy
@gowtaamkumar8993
5 күн бұрын
I am still having a confusion b/w choosing this both. I am planning to pair it with 7600x and In my region India, 4070 super it is 1.5 dollars cheaper. What should i do especially for 1440p gaming
@blackbirdpctech
5 күн бұрын
I would get the 4070 Super ... if it's cheaper then it's a great deal.
@gowtaamkumar8993
5 күн бұрын
Does the 4 gb Vram will affect in the long run ?
@blackbirdpctech
5 күн бұрын
That's a debate that many have. I'm not a believer in "future proofing" pc components because it's not possible to control all of the variables. For example, while it's true that future games will likely require additional VRAM, it's also true that future games will require additional compute from the GPU, so you might have enough VRAM but it's useless if your GPU can't run the game at anything over the most basic graphics settings. This is why it makes more sense to me to buy the component that is better value today instead of trying to buy for the future.
@ALE79-88
Ай бұрын
In this case i say rx 7900 gre just because of 16gb vram. Anything below 16gb for me is not worth it.
@Aaronnpool23
Ай бұрын
i bought the 7900gre as it was quite cheaper than even just the base 4070 here in Calgary canada. The 4070 super costs 799-899 while the gre sits at 725-780 and has more vram which yes currently 12gb is enough but 2 years from now just wait until the 5070 comes out and people will be selling their 4070's for cheap on used marketplace just like the 3070 and 3070ti. that card is limited because of 8gb vram and soon 12gb will be the same just watch.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
If the GRE is that much cheaper then it’s a very easy choice.
@Aaronnpool23
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech have it overclocked to 2316mhz on the vram and increased the power and put to fast timing card runs excellent and low temps pc idols at 36*C if AMD decides to let us overclock it to the same speed as the 7800xt card would get even more performance only and bandwidth would be over 600 gb/s
@crypto_que
Ай бұрын
The real value in these GPUs is their ability to perform AI/Deep Learning tasks. Using them only to play games is like giving a child a Fighter Jet to buy candy from the store when he needs a push bike and a propeller hat. Turns out it is rocket science.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That's not true ... no one that is professionally involved with the development/application of AI uses a 4070 Super or 7900 GRE to train models ... that simply wouldn't make sense. A 4090 with 24GB of VRAM makes sense as an entry level compute device for AI but even then you are talking about simple algorithm training. Turns out it's not rocket science after all 😉
@pilotoreplicante
Ай бұрын
I bought the 4070S im very happy, with RT, DLSS3.5, i actually dont like FG, but the rest of DLSS is good, that is good enough for me to go with Nvidia, and because all my other rigs have had AMD/ATI and all of thores gpu's burned, soo yeah xD
@epicgamer0007
15 күн бұрын
I feel like you are slightly biased towards Nvidia at least in the comment section, I’ve never owned an AMD card personally. Is there a stability issue I’m not seeing or is there a heavy reason why you are so dead set on recommending 4070 super over 7900gre for the same price despite the fact that one company is giving you better performance And better vram? And is it just me or is raw performance is better too if nvidia Doesn’t use DLSS it gets smoked? Also I do want to say, I am more confident in nvidia as well as their cards have proven good, just want to know if there’s any bias on your part
@blackbirdpctech
15 күн бұрын
I can't influence how you feel, all I can do is provide data and a recommendation based on this data. The 4070 Super provides better 1% lows at all resolutions, as well as equal or better average FPS (without DLSS). It also offers superior ray tracing performance and upscaling quality with DLSS. So if the two cards are priced the same then, based on the data, the 4070 Super is arguably a better option. The extra VRAM didn't have an impact on the 17 games I tested, so it's difficult to quantify the value. It might help with future titles but if a future game requires more VRAM then it's likely the GPU will simply not be powerful enough to run the game at decent settings, regardless of the VRAM requirements. If I could somehow quantify the value of the extra VRAM I would, but I can't so it becomes a subjective value assessment. If however the 7900 GRE is cheaper than the 4070 Super by $50 or more, then I would recommend the GRE over the 4070 Super. I think this is a reasonable assessment based on the data.
@AvroBellow
3 күн бұрын
You forgot to mention a rather glaring difference between these two GPUs, one that is significant and that is the amount of VRAM. The RX 7900 GRE has 30% more VRAM than the RTX 4070 Super. If you're spending this much money on a GPU, you want it to last as long as possible. That's why I chose my XTX. I know that 24GB of VRAM will eventually be insufficient for gaming, but by then, either I'll be dead or my card will so who cares? 😁
@blackbirdpctech
3 күн бұрын
I mentioned the increased VRAM of the GRE multiple times and this was my recommendation: "With that said it’s really challenging to make a recommendation for this video, which is actually not a bad thing for consumers. On the one hand you have the 4070 Super that offers excellent features and low power consumption but is priced higher, whereas on the other hand you have the 7900 GRE that has better rasterization performance and is cheaper, but struggles with Ray Tracing. So it really depends on what games you are playing and how you value features such as upscaling and VRAM. I’m happy to say that both cards are excellent choices, so regardless of what you choose you will have a great gaming experience." My problem with using extra VRAM to "future proof" is that typically at the point where games will need the extra VRAM, your GPU will be incapable of performing at high quality settings. There are of course instances where Nvidia crippled a card because they didn't include enough VRAM, but generally it makes sense to try to match VRAM to GPU performance.
@sonny8962
Ай бұрын
Among the numerous manufacturers, is asus daul product located in the middle class? Which is more advantageous compared to sapphire pulse products excluding price? Temperature, power, noise, etc. I know the Sapphire Nitro Plus is the best
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think Asus Dual is at the lower end of their product stack below TUF. If it was me I would go for the Sapphire Pulse because it has a triple fan design which should be a more effective cooling solution.
@roythunderplump
Ай бұрын
Great showdown, AMD offers great value for just gaming. For Professional users that create, earn a living from a workstation PC. Not seen any AMD Pro series cards being recommended by the big system builders.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s interesting … I would guess that has something to do with hardware support in the programs they use.
@sunilnarine6313
Ай бұрын
AMD does not offer great value for just gaming. its just 30 dollar cheaper. Nvidia is just better at this point and performs better in all charts he shows in 4k department.
@torg2704
Ай бұрын
Cool Video
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Sebastian-kr5bv
Ай бұрын
Hey ordered a 4070 super 2 days ago and dont now if this was wrong because of the 12gb vram. Do you think 12 gb for 1440p is enough?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
You will be fine … it’s a great card … enjoy it!
@ronan7744
29 күн бұрын
probably not so worrying unless its 4k gaming.
@androidboygaming9884
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid man! I was about to build a pc with Ryzen 5 7600x and 7900gre….now I am sure about going with AMD.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
You are very welcome … enjoy your new system … it’s an awesome feeling to build your own pc … let me know if I can help.
@androidboygaming9884
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Thanks Dude! I’m going with all white NZXT H6 flow build….should I go with ASrock Steel Legend OC edition or Sapphire Pure? Also any suggestions of 1440p 180hz monitor under budget 200 to 250$
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I’ve heard from multiple subscribers that the steel legend is a great card and it looks good, but I haven’t tested it. Would have to look at monitor options … I like LG monitors of late.
@androidboygaming9884
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Thanks🤩
@kotra3582
Ай бұрын
Here in croatia 7900gre is 600euros and 4070super750euros,i think its no brainer for me
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I agree … that is a very large price difference.
@FogHazard
Ай бұрын
Bought a Powercolor 7900 GRE Red Devil and unfortunately it turned out to be a lemon. Everything kept timing out and crashing the graphics driver. Tried everything I could to fix it and nothing worked. Replaced with an Asus 4070 Super and everything works beautifully now. The 7900 GRE is probably a great card when it works, but that was my first experience with an AMD/Powercolor card and now I'm worried about being burned again.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s understandable … I tend to like Sapphire better than PowerColor for AMD cards but you can get unlucky with any brand. Glad you like your 4070 Super, I think it’s a great card.
@skitzdaniel3314
Ай бұрын
I recently bought the RX 7900 GRE after using RX 6700 XT for four years. My RX 6700 XT got hit by lightning strike. So you all know, you look at those fancy videos showing 200 - 350 FPS on the GRE and you think you are going to get that. Let me tell you I am right at the same place as my RX 6700 XT in terms of setup. Why. Sure, you buy a Corvette and you are going to drive it at top speed of 196 mph every day. Right. Well video cards are much the same way. To avoid a heat run up, bottlenecking my 5600X CPU, and fans sounding like my computer is going to take off, I cap my RX 7900 GRE right at 150 fps through AMD Adrenalin software. The average comes to about 100 FPS with 1440p res, which I find totally adequate in heavy gaming in Battlefield 2024. I ended up nearly exactly the same settings as the RX 6700 XT. I had to cap settings on the 6700 also to keep the junction temperature of the graphics card in the 70c - 80c level. Else the temps ran right up to 110c the first couple times I used the 6700. So why did I spend $ 560 on a RX 7900 GRE. With the settings I have, I could of bought much "cheaper" graphics cards that would not overheat. But the one benefit I noticed with the 7900 GRE is that my FPS lows are higher and more stable. With these settings my grahic card is running at about 60% and CPU 60 - 80 %. My system 1200w Black Box power supply AMD 5600X CPU Corsair Vengeance 3200 LPX ram 32gb AMD RX 7900 GRE Graphics Card AsRock Phantom Gaming 4 ac motherboard (built in Wi-Fi and Bluetooth - I love the Bluetooth for file transfer) Acer Nitro 27" 180mhz monitor. ViewSonic 22" 60mhz secondary monitor Harman Kardon speakers. Sama Computer Case
@Tomatsuppen
Ай бұрын
Ever thought of upgrading your cpu? Even though the new socket is AM5, the 5700X3D/5800X3D AM4 processors will give a massive boost in gaming performance due to the 3D cache.
@banious1247
26 күн бұрын
Ur getting bottle necked cuz of ur cpu . That's the problem , not the graphic card
@sluchice7494
2 сағат бұрын
just bought a asus super evo but think my 5900x cant handle this card i know amd drivers are not good so i go from 7800xt to 4070 super
@blackbirdpctech
2 сағат бұрын
There is nothing wrong with AMD drivers, but the 4070S is a good card.
@GabrielGarcia-sy5nm
Ай бұрын
I bought a 7900XT and I'm very happy with it.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It's a good card at a great price!
@Honk_Clank
Ай бұрын
A crap shoot either way. Your either losing dlss & better Rt Or 4gb of VRAM.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s why I think it’s best to simply go with the lower cost option.
@zergilli9719
Ай бұрын
Bought 4070 super for low power draw and ray tracing. With my other components, my electric bill went down.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Do you live in a region with high electricity costs?
@zergilli9719
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech no but I was worried going from an Xbox One X to a mid range gaming PC that my bills would go up. They actually went down because my PC and monitor has a lower power draw than my Xbox and TV.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
@@zergilli9719 4070 super is pretty much a power sipper
@zergilli9719
Ай бұрын
@@jamv2122 it's a 220w power draw which it hits around 180-200 watt on average. Compared to the 7700 XT and the 7800 XT, the 4070 Super is around 30% less or more power draw.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
@@zergilli9719 yep 4070 super is as i said a power sipper barely draws more then my old 2060 super but with double the performance.
@Kor3Gaming_Ghost
Ай бұрын
Mi out here enjoying 4070 super with 12gb at 1440p While people out here bashing 12gb of vram 😂😂😂theres a thing called lower some graphics settings😂😂😂come on people 4070 s is not that bad
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It's a great card imo ... unfortunately there are some larger tech KZitemrs out there that push the VRAM narrative too much. The question you should be asking yourself is what is your objective? If it's to play games and enjoy yourself then it's hard to beat the 4070S. If however it's to prepare for future games then VRAM is a valid consideration, but so to is the actual performance of your GPU ... it's not helpful to have extra VRAM if your GPU in 2 years is not powerful enough to run the game at low settings. This is the problem with taking "future proofing" too far ... I think the GRE is a great option but it doesn't really have much to do with the extra VRAM, it's just a good performing card, and I can't test future games that don't yet exist.
@JesManVP
17 күн бұрын
Well I play 4k with my 7900gre like resident evil remake vram usage is more than 12 gigs I think even if you play games as of today at 4k with a 4070 super it will be fine most will do well
@tqrules01
Ай бұрын
In the Netherlands the price difference a few months ago was 580 for a gre and a 680 for a rtx 4070 super, the prices are now closed together but at the time, I went for AMD fir that reason
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I would have made the same decision at those prices
@lynch42o
Ай бұрын
Ive had the 7900gre for a month now. No problems here and it powers through all games so far. Having a 7800x3d doesnt helps as well. ^^
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Nice combo 😉
@Ariel-ru4he
Ай бұрын
I think I'll go with 7900 gre for future proof
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
The 7900 GRE is a good option and I understand your logic however nothing you buy now will be future proof … by the time you need the extra vram your card will not be able to run games at high settings so I would buy a card with that in mind.
@Ariel-ru4he
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech yeha but that either this or rtx 4070 super with 12gb of vram. Idk maybe i would get the 7900XT instead
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@Ariel-ru4hethat is a better option but of course it’s more expensive.
@thesimpleway1998
Ай бұрын
I agree. Basically I can't see any reason to buy the 4070s with only 12GB. My logic is simple if I want features like frame gen + rt I need at least 16GB vram, (many games already exceed 12GB usage) If I don't like frame gen and rt then the 7900gre has better raster performance. Nvidia is an option only for high end GPU.
@NulJern
Ай бұрын
Bro, sorry to tell ya... That ain't LEGO...
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It's not too far off ... replacing components like RAM and GPUs is plug and play ... it's pretty easy.
@NulJern
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech yeah well maybe for you, however i am sure some people broke something while installing ram or gpu's while no one ever broke a lego while putting them together.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I’m sure you are right but one of the objectives of my channel is to show people just how easy it is to build/repair/upgrade PC’s … it’s not as difficult as the vast majority of people think it is.
@8DarthGhost8
Ай бұрын
@blackbirdpctech first time PC gamer here. Is it better to have a AMD CPU paired with an AMD GPU? I have an intel i7 rn paired with the Radeon GRE. I was wondering if there's any significant difference
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@8DarthGhost8it doesn’t really make any difference as long as you turn on resizable bar in your bios. If you have an AMD cpu paired with an amd gpu you will be able to use smart access memory, which is essentially resizable bar.
@dscdscdscdscdsc
Ай бұрын
How can you not support AMD, even with like 5% market share they still force to lower the prices and release graphics cards which pricings make a little bit of sense
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
What makes you think I don’t support AMD? There is a difference between blindly supporting a company and letting data guide your recommendations.
@sluchice7494
2 сағат бұрын
Amd driver make my screen flicker
@blackbirdpctech
2 сағат бұрын
Why do you think it's the AMD driver?
@wayoming3453
Ай бұрын
Correct paying 600$ and get only 12 gb of vram is a mess
@allxtend4005
Ай бұрын
the right choice will be Rx7900 GRE for sure because you have 4 more Vram. We all know what happen to the 8gb and 10 gb cards from Nvidia, 12 gb is the next step where you will see it is not enough.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think people confuse vram and gpu performance. More vram is obviously better but if your gpu can’t push enough frames then the vram is somewhat irrelevant. So in the future even though the extra vram may allow you to play a game, it won’t magically allow you to play at high settings. So the challenge is, should you choose a better performing card with less vram to play games well today knowing that you will have to upgrade within the next few years or choose a card with extra vram that can’t match the same level of performance in games today with the hope that it will last longer. It’s not such an obvious choice.
@dlm_rave1858
Ай бұрын
price to performance is AMD hands down, but performance goes to nvidia everytime
@sohamkulkarni7207
Ай бұрын
The difference between the both viz. Zotac Twin edge non OC (4070S) and Sapphire pulse variant (7900 GRE) is around 25 dollars in my region. And my purpose is to enjoy the present. Mostly gonna play AAA RPG titles in 1440p. Which is the best buy according to you kindly advise ?!
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I would likely go with the 4070S however they are close enough in price that either will be a good option.
@sohamkulkarni7207
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Just for the records I've already subscribed to your channel and you prove it right everytime. Thanks for the instant response. See I know for a fact that 4070S is totally not a RT card. This card cannot push RT without FG. So basically to enjoy the RT, generating frames is my only best bet and somewhere for more than 600$ (inc. taxes in my country) I don't think that is justifiable. On the other hand 7900 GRE provides better performance out of box (also with lil' push from software). I've used Nvidia earlier and have also experience driver issues from Nvidia too. But with 7900 GRE I feel I don't have to worry about FG since the card is already performing well without that ! Also, up high, the person on this side also used to be a Rocket Scientist 😃
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Very cool ... would love to hear more about where you worked and what you did.
@sohamkulkarni7207
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech well actually it is a start-up which deals with orbiting and de-orbitting of Satellites. I was working on the Propulsion. Also would like to know your story 🫡
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Very cool … I tell my origin story in the first video I published on my channel … I’ve learned a lot since then but I think the story is still pretty interesting … it explains what I did and why I left
@GeorgieArellano
Ай бұрын
I had a 7800xt and sold it so I can go get 4070 super! I got the gigabyte windforce oc
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Are you happy with it? I think it’s a pretty good card … seems to get a lot of haters though.
@GeorgieArellano
Ай бұрын
@blackbirdpctech it's amazing 👏 I love it!
@swangin3331
Ай бұрын
Very informative and well thought out video you have a sub from me mate.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Welcome to the Blackbird PC Tech community!
@AnjeshSivaram-pw1dy
Ай бұрын
Bought a 7900gre can't be happier.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That my friend is the only thing that really matters 😉
@derptrain_ttv5763
Ай бұрын
Can I just slap an XTX on the end of it, and be safe with clicking "check out"? Price doesnt bother me too much, tax return was good to me. Might go the 7800x3d too. Never been team red, though.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think that’s a great combo … the 7800X3D is an amazing cpu.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
rx 7900 gre is a bit sad at 256 bit it should have been able to do better in 4k it should have been able to push better it wins some battles but does feel like alot of the hardware related issues with rdna 3 are showing. 4070 super does very well. granted its suppose to be a good overclockers and undervolts well. unsure what the rx 7900 gre may perform better with a undervolt.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Yes, agreed … the challenge is they needed to keep it away from the 7900 XT. I’ve found that all of the AMD cards that I’ve tested in this generation tend to undervolt well … I think it’s because they really pushed the power.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech yeah that's why i don't get the 320 bit bus on the 7900 xt doesn't feel like its doing much hardware wise on paper they should be doing better. something i noticed with rdna 2 is it uses a cluster system basically each gpu core die is paired unlike gcn. so there sharing resources. the issue with rdna 3 is it added quite a lot of new stuff on the pipeline so because its shares resources i wonder if its got some gpu core parking issues like what streamroller cpus had back in the day just where seeing a gpu varient of that issue.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It’s going to be interesting when Nvidia moves to a chiplet design … AMD may have an advantage by working through the fabric issues over multiple generations … should help with costs too.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech knowing nvidia they will keep going on big dies as they have pretty much zero reason to invest in chiplet design because they can charge whatever they want for the performance there giving. as there current designs strategy seems to be a generation of power hungry put powerful design one gen. and a power sipping gen the next. 4000 was power sipping. now 5000 series could be power sipping 2. judging by rumours i would bet it. what amd needs to win is lower power usage and higher performance something team red has struggled with for years. if amd can nail its chiplet design and get the power down and keep performance great otherwise they need to be looking at going chiplet design with the mind of cost saving of like yes where not the best performer but we are cheaper. intel might be the unsung hero. as they seem to be a middle ground.
@AdamTait-hy2qh
Ай бұрын
Bro he compares with RT on....
@Nikk_lx
Ай бұрын
What to pick? In my country the prices are: 4070 super - 900 $ 7900 xt - 940 $ 7900 gre - 800 $ Will pair with 7800x3D
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
At those prices I would go for a 7900 XT.
@Nikk_lx
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech but if we exclude 7900xt, should I choose 7900 gre?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s what I would do … it’s $100 cheaper than a 4070 S.
@Nikk_lx
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech thanks!
@avs_ytb
Ай бұрын
Superior upscaler, Better RT performance, low heating and low power draw. I am happy to pay the extra 30bucks for 4070s. Also forgot to mention Nvidia drivers are much stable then AMDs.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I tend to agree with you however I disagree that Nvidia drivers are more stable … the difference that I’ve observed is that Nvidia fixes any driver issues rapidly whereas AMD takes longer … that said I’ve had issues with both but I actually prefer Adrenalin over the Nvidia app, at least in its current beta state. I think this simply comes down to AMD needing to build a larger software development team.
@GoonyMclinux
Ай бұрын
I have a 4070 super and a 7900gre, the gre matches the super in RT in many titles. The performance is so even I gave the super to my kid. Also drivers haven't been an issue with AMD in along time, thats the standard crap everyone says because they hear it from someone one time years ago.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@GoonyMclinux I included RT results in my data for cyberpunk, avatar and F1 … the 4070S was superior in those titles (if you turn frame gen off in avatar). What games did you test?
@GoonyMclinux
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Go look at Ancient Gameplays results, he shows a couple.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I like that guy ... he generates a LOT of high quality content ... not sure how he does it.
@gravirict7108
Ай бұрын
This is really a question of: Do you prefer to compromise graphical fidelity for high framerates (i.e play at 120+ fps) or high framerates for graphical fidelity (i.e play at 60-80 fps)? If the former, go 4070 Super. If the latter, go 7900gre. The reason is that the 4070 Super has dlss + fg. The difference they make for non-competitive games is MASSIVE. In Remnant II for example, it allows you to max out a 165hz monitor while playing at a latency of 30-35ms which is nothing. Additionally, in this particular game at least DLSS looks so good its arguably better than native, since it also softens jaggies very well without losing clarity. FSR, on the other hand, is so full of shimmering that using an upscaler with AMD is not an option. With the 4070s, you play this game at 165fps. With the 7900gre, at about 70-80fps. As for the vram question, I'll put another example. On Resident Evil 2, even though it is a 5 y/o game, you can max out the "Image Quality" setting @200% and it uses up to 14gb of vram. At that point, the 4070 super starts stuttering, i.e unplayable. The 7900gre can probably play it that way comfortably @60-70fps without stutters. Then again, if you lower that setting to 100-120% instead, both cards can play the game @165 fps without losing much in graphical fidelity because of diminishing returns. How would you rather play the game?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think that's a reasonably good way to look at it ... AMD has made some large improvements in FSR but DLSS still looks better. You can also use frame gen with FSR of course and with the latest version of FSR you can now use upscaling with/without FG turned on, which is nice. I think the largest difference between these cards is ray tracing so it depends on what games you play and what features you find to be important.
@KurokamiNajimi
Ай бұрын
To me beyond 90-100 fps is pointless
@killkiss_son
Ай бұрын
FSR at 4K with quality/ultra quality is perfectly usable from what I've seen. Honestly the biggest difference between the two is the 16Gb vs 12Gb and the RT performance
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I used to think that until I gamed on a 120Hz monitor at 4K … tough to go back.
@KurokamiNajimi
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Thanks now I know to never touch that lmao
@McMd-yp9yj
Ай бұрын
Not Rx 7900 GRE. Go for RX 6750 XT
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
You can still buy a 6750 XT new on Amazon ... I really liked the AMD 6000 series, great cards that got better over time.
@McMd-yp9yj
Ай бұрын
Yes and for 600 we can even go for the stronger Rx 6950 XT same performance as rtx 4070 super
@davidmustaine2921
Ай бұрын
used to have a Sapphire Pulse 6750XT, wasnt really that impressed with it tbh.
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech 6000 series is still better value for money people can still find rx 6800 on the market new. only issue i ever had was weird issues with some games with anti aliasing not working.
@user-fo9ce3hr5h
Ай бұрын
For 3d heavy projects i want to buy rtx 4070 super 2 fan. Do you think it is good? 2 fan enough? And i wonder are AMD gus good for adobe video editing and 3d works good like nvidias?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
The two fan solution is enough however I would personally get a triple fan solution. Based on what I’ve read it appears that Nvidia has an advantage in Adobe applications but it’s not something I have a lot of experience with.
@styx168
Ай бұрын
İf you are planning to do something in productivity fields there is no second choice 😢 Nvidia is the best
@joelfernando1
Ай бұрын
@@styx168Nvidia is the only choice gaming/productivity
@vvsvv-e7c
Ай бұрын
if will buy an Ryzen I'll go with amd if not maybe Nvidia because of DLSS that's my opinion
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I think AMD currently offers the best cpu options but their CPU’s work just as well with Nvidia GPU’s so I wouldn’t let that impact your decision.
@R.EARNHARDTT
11 күн бұрын
What’s the length in the RX 7900 GRE
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
11 inches (280mm) long
@R.EARNHARDTT
11 күн бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech what about the 4070 super
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
@@R.EARNHARDTT these are close in length, as shown in the video. You can find the exact dimensions for each card on the Asus website.
@Ivan80054
Ай бұрын
I am waiting to see new RX 8000 series, right now i have 6700XT but will wait to see what will new AMD GPUs give to us. I am interested into RX 8800 XT if they release it. For me AMD RX 7900 GRE is winner comparing it with 4070Ti.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Apparently AMD really focused on improving their ray tracing performance with the 8800 … if true that would be a card worth waiting for.
@Ivan80054
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Well i hope that RX 8800 XT will be card with at least 16 GB of VRAM with better ray tracing, if we are lucky to have 320 bit bandwith ar that card, even 256 is not bad for now. My biggest hope that will be priced about 500 euros.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@Ivan80054 if Intel Battlemage has that level of performance then we actually could see great prices for all three cards at this level.
@hiegiii
Ай бұрын
i have the 7900 gre , just problems, game is always crashing because driver timeout
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Have you tried uninstalling your drivers with DDU and reinstalling them? I didn’t come across any issues with the 7900 GRE when I tested it and I tested it in a system that had a 4070 in it beforehand.
@JesManVP
17 күн бұрын
Have yoi checked your amd software to see if it's overclocked some people had their cards over locked way to high
@Fronioll9973
Ай бұрын
4070 super is a better pick imo its only 60 usd more and it works really well
@MMmagze
Ай бұрын
@@Fronioll9973 that doesnt make any sense😂 you are saying 4070 is better because “it works really well” and its more expensive.
@Fronioll9973
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze 🤡 it gives same fps in raster with 7900 gre and performs way better in rt and is only 50 usd more
@PhonkWave
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze in productivity like blender 4070 super destroys the 7900 gre. But for games 7900 is better
@GongasPTA
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze and has only 12 GB of VRAM xd, if the 4070 Super had 16 GB would be worth it
@mikymouse7525
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze Because it has twice the performance in ray tracing, better image quality with DLSS and an enviable thermal efficiency. Look at the steam stats, AMD is nowhere. Do you think people are that stupid to buy the AMD crap?
@AdamTait-hy2qh
Ай бұрын
Lol with RT enabled? Why??? SMH
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Did you watch the video? I also showed results for just rasterization by removing the three Ray Tracing titles. That said why wouldn’t I show performance with Ray Tracing in titles that use it? It is arguably a far superior rendering technique to rasterization (i.e. using polygons to approximate 3D images). This is the reason why AMD has focused so much on improving their RT performance with their upcoming 8000 series cards.
@i_sinz
Ай бұрын
would u recomend the sk hynix plat p41 over samsung 980/990 pro
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
The P41 is a great Gen 4 SSD however I prefer the 990 pro ... I like the Samsung SSD software ... makes it easy to upgrade the firmware and optimize your SSD.
@i_sinz
Ай бұрын
hi again thanks for the response i have another question i currently do 80% gaming 20% video editing but probably will go to uni to learn video editing because of this i was going to go with the 4070 super because of the cuda cores but i might have been wrong because the 7900gre matches performance in everything just people say they sometimes have problems and premier pro dosent like it what do you think would be better for me 7900gre or 4070 super
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I am not a heavy user of Adobe products however from what I read online it appears that they do currently favor Nvidia GPU's.
@rxxdlb
Ай бұрын
so will i regret buying 4070?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
The non super variant?
@rxxdlb
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech it was regural one, Gygabyte Windforce OC 4070 12GB
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It depends on what your objective is … if it’s to game and enjoy the experience then you should feel good about it … but if your objective is to have the latest and greatest components then you might regret it.
@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech hi. I have a question, is 4060 ti a good gpu?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@لاإلهإلاالله-ر8ع I would go for the 4060 Ti 16GB variant, but it depends on what resolution and game settings you want to play at. I recently upgraded a system from a 3060 to a 4060 Ti and the increase in performance was significant.
@user-z1u4u
Ай бұрын
Anyone using AMD in servers? I need 2 or more per server. Doing some 3D streaming for some customers thanks
@__-fi6xg
Ай бұрын
hello mister rocketman, is my pc going to be a rocket if i buy a 4080 instead?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
A 4080 is a great card ... the 4080 Super is cheaper so definitely go with that unless you find a 4080 at a lower price ... if you want to see how it performs checkout my comparison of the 4080 Super against a 7900 XTX and 4090.
@SwingArmCity
Ай бұрын
@__-fi6xg No, it will still be a computer. Sorry. 😉
@Antoon55
Ай бұрын
I had a RX7900XT for over a year and a lot of crashes. I am back to NVIDIA with a RTX4080 Super and it's running fine. Maybe because NVIDIA is mostly a software company their drivers are more stable..
@MMmagze
Ай бұрын
Graphics cards dont cause crashes also you bought and upgraded card which is half the problem. Amd gpus are open source
@smokeyislove469
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze yeah whenever i see people complaining about amd drivers its usually about lack of exp/not installing drivers correctly.
@Antoon55
Ай бұрын
@@MMmagze They do, that's why I got a refund after 15 months. Had something to do with power handling. I guess it was a know issue.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Nvidia is not mostly a software company ... they are one of the most valuable companies in the world because they make the hardware that powers the training of neural networks for AI. That said they do make great software but I would argue that AMDs Adrenalin Edition software is better than what Nvidia currently offers.
@Antoon55
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech ok. Anyway I have been playing without crashing to desktop for days now. What a relieve:)
@niyazzmoithu20
Ай бұрын
Saw 7900gre going for $500🤔🤔
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That’s a great price
@Controllerplaayer
Ай бұрын
Which one is better for Fortnite all low settings performance mode 1080p?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Those game settings and resolution will place a heavy load on your cpu … so both GPU’s would be fine.
@Controllerplaayer
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech which one would average better FPS?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Given that this will be a cpu bound situation the fps will be driven by the cpu … the gpu is not going to matter … so to answer your question you would first need to know the cpu
@Controllerplaayer
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech the cpu is a ryzen 7 7800x3d
@Controllerplaayer
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech update?
@yuan.pingchen3056
Ай бұрын
I'm waiting for new AMD single die, larger than 2048SP(6600XT/7600XT scale) model, because AMD doesn't use 12VHPWR power connector, about the brand, I hope powercolor can use 304 stainless bracket so I don't need to buy GPU products of ASUS.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Sapphire is a great brand to consider for AMD too
@yuan.pingchen3056
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech Sapphire is funded by C.C.P. I hope that before C.C.P. disappears from the earth, I can try not to buy products from their affiliated companies. As for how to judge? There are many Chinese lived inside the GFW on KZitem who recommend products. Just don't buy it. You will find that the quality of their videos is not proportional to the number of user subscriptions. That is because their channels are supported by CCP. Even Google Translate is censored by evil forces for political speech. I have to manually modify the translation.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I worked in defense for most of my career so I am familiar with their practices … will look in to Sapphire more.
@yuan.pingchen3056
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech my last comment was been deleted ?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
It’s possible it violated a KZitem policy and was auto deleted … I can read everything but I may have missed a comment.
@abcd-fs2de
Ай бұрын
7800XT is the answer.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I did a comparison with the 7800XT and I wasn’t overly impressed … I think the 7900 GRE is a better option
@SteadyWatch
Ай бұрын
I've recently bought a rx 7900 Gre and pairing it with a ryzen 7 5800x and 32gb of ram but even on warzone after a week of owning it my fps completely went down way under 200 from what they were at first now I barely get above 110-150and feels not so smooth since it's frame dropping I'm not the best with pc so help with me amazing, I've even went to "Geek squad" from best buy and they said my pc would run way better but I'm not sure if that's the case for my pc I need someone with the knowledge to please help me out.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately it’s very hard to diagnose your problem without knowing a lot more information. I would recommend going back through the list of programs that you installed and trying to figure out which one may be causing the problem (i.e. try to figure out when your problems started)
@jamv2122
Ай бұрын
hey was this a new build ? did you replace a existing card with the rx 7900 gre? and is the ram mixed or from the same kit.
@SteadyWatch
Ай бұрын
@@jamv2122 well I upgraded recently due to heating issues from having my old gpu which was a 2070super and had that for about a little over 4yrs nd it was paired with a Ryzen 7 3700x but I ended up upgrading a lot more than I wanted I also did upgrade from 16 gb of ram to 32 and it’s a pair of Vengeance Corsair 3600mhz my pc was a prebuilt pc and recently had to do all these upgrades and struggling a lot to have stable fps and I even realized the performance on the amd app show that they went down a lot from when I first got it which was the beginning of this month so I haven’t had everything for along time yet! Please lmk anything
@SteadyWatch
Ай бұрын
@@jamv2122I upgraded from a 2070super and it was paired with a Ryzen 7 3700x and 16gb of ram but upgraded most of everything due to the gpu overheating so I got the 7900Gre and it was bottlenecking with the 3700x so I got a new cpu which was the Ryzen 7 5800x and also got 32gb of ram Corsair Vengeance purchased all this month and seen performance on amd app drop down a lot I don’t tune anything or touch to much settings because I just wanna game but it’s annoying once I start having less fps around 200+ around the first week and now barely 110-150 sometimes even less if it’s in a mid fight smh please lmk what I can do
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
You need to use DDU to uninstall your old Nvidia drivers before installing the AMD drivers.
@danburke6568
Ай бұрын
With the next generation coming out...maybe wait! There will be a big sell off before the new generation comes or people sell cards off. If you can hold off until Q1 then wait, or wait for the sell off.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
I talked about this in my previous video. Waiting for a new generation of video cards to be released is always an option but in my opinion it never really turns out the way you would like it to. First, a 5070 (or AMD/Intel equivalent) is not likely to be released until well in to 2025 ... perhaps Q2. It looks like the 5090 has been pushed in to Q1, so the 70 series cards will likely be much later. This means you will likely be waiting 6+ months before you can even get your hands on a new card. While it's true that the 4000 series will drop in price when the 5000 series is released, so too will the resale value of 3000 series cards. So while you may be able to buy a 4000 series card for less, you will get less for your 3000 series GPU if you choose to sell it. As a result, unless new cards are imminent (say weeks away) my advice is to try to find a good deal and simply get the card you want now. You will be able to enjoy gaming at higher frames with newer features and you will not feel compelled to go out and buy a newer card when they are released, which is usually the worst time to buy a GPU (i.e. when demand is high and availability is low).
@danburke6568
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech For me I have a working card 5700xt and will be upgrading soon. I believe 8gb on a card will not be great soon. My system is solid and will last years. The 5700xt plays my games fine, but I want my next card to last for years, high vram and a bit of kick. The next AMD card should be a good one. Stronger than a 7900xt but weaker vram. So I'm looking for 7900 xt to go cheaper, I have a price in mind or I wait for the next generation. If Nvidia puts out a high vram card in the mid range maybe that would be a option...never going to happen lol
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@danburke6568 you might want to wait and see how the new Intel Battlemage GPU's perform ... their drivers are fixed so hopefully these new cards will be competitive.
@williamlaprarie3007
Ай бұрын
Me and my friend compared a my 4080S, his wifes 7900gre, and 4090, without upscaling. 7900gre was =to the 4090. But with dlss and ray tracing the 4090 was superior. The 4080 was not as good. Thats our real world experience. Imo the 7900gre is the best vua power usage frame generation at half the cost of the 4090.
@gravirict7108
Ай бұрын
In which games?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
This is why benchmarking matters ... it's tough to judge performance without the data to support your observations.
@Ragssssss
Ай бұрын
Sorry to burst your bubble but 4090 kerb stomps 7900gre, there is no competition between two cards.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@Ragssssss it clearly doesn’t make sense that a 7900 GRE could compete with a 4090 or 4080, but it’s pointless to argue without data to back it up, even when it’s obvious, such as it is for this comment.
@Ragssssss
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech exactly! I mean there shouldn't even be such half-witted argument. 4090 has literally no competition.
@SwingArmCity
Ай бұрын
Whichever is cheaper
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Some damn good advice 😉
@SwingArmCity
Ай бұрын
I although I would, if the same price go for the 7900 GRE for the extra vram
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
As I said in my video I think they are both good options.
@sicksicksick-n7q
Ай бұрын
just forgot what RAY TRACING is
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
What does that mean?
@dennorris4923
11 күн бұрын
Wow, AMD it's great work and good price! 😮 Intel where is your great card's? Move! Lazy assess! 🤬 Nvidia greed is good? 😏
@blackbirdpctech
11 күн бұрын
I really hope that Battlemage performs well.
@shadowknight9099
Ай бұрын
The Best GPU is Ryzen 4070
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Do you mean the RTX 4070? Ryzen is AMD branding for their CPU’s.
@shadowknight9099
Ай бұрын
@@blackbirdpctech it's a ZachTechTurf Inside Joke But Thank you for commenting and For Your Dedication and Work ❤️❤️❤️
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Ha ha … I completely missed that. Appreciate your support!
@mhmdsahilk
Ай бұрын
7900 gre with hynix memory is almost similar in most games as stock 4070 ti super. Check Hardware Unboxed youtube channel
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Not sure what that means … HUB is a good channel but they make a lot of fundamental testing mistakes, such as testing CPU’s at ultra game settings at all resolutions, so I don’t generally find them to be super credible. The 7900 GRE tends to overclock well but it’s definitely not on par with the 4070 Ti Super.
@Nemesis1ism
Ай бұрын
WHY EXACTLY DOES YOUR EXPERT OPINION REALLY MEAN TO ANYONE ?
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
Hopefully you understand why I can't speak for other people. That said, people have a choice when it comes to tech content ... they can listen to the opinion of people without any technical background that show very little data and spend their time talking about rumors (the vast majority of tech KZitemrs) ... or they can watch content from people with a deep understanding of the technology, that know how to test in a robust way and provide unbiased opinions driven by the data. If I needed advice on what components to buy I know which content I would watch.
@Storlans
Ай бұрын
RTX 4070 Super 850 Eur card vs a RX 7900 GRE, 750 Eur card.
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
That is a large difference and will make the 7900 gre a significantly better buy.
@venusprinzj8094
Ай бұрын
Its 4070s 550€ and 7900Gre 600€ in Germany, wtf XD
@blackbirdpctech
Ай бұрын
@@venusprinzj8094 then get the 4070 Super ... the good thing about these cards being so close in performance is that you can get whichever card is cheaper and not have any regrets.
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