For $45 I think it's a great value. You can get many hours of entertainment. And your 'sunk cost' is minimal. So walking away for 6 months to a year and waiting for things to get better is much easier to do versus the guy who dropped 5k and is expecting 5k of 'value'. I would say for the average person, the less money invested the happier you will be with your fun to cost ratio. 😉
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely my opinion- and if you take that approach then do want to upgrade to a Cutty etc you’ll be confident you’re enjoying things enough.
@BlakedaBull
10 ай бұрын
well said "invest little gain a lot, invest a lot gain little." (if you want real power in verse whatever that means i think making good friends with similar minded people will do you better than any other thunder you can bring.)
@baldmista1907
10 ай бұрын
Also the fact that there’s a 14 day refund policy
@B.D.E.
10 ай бұрын
Try it for free during IAE or any free fly event, no reason to pay anything before you try it.
@FunkThompson
10 ай бұрын
Wipes: There have been like 3 or 4 wipes since persistence started, or about 2 per year, or so. Generally not a frequent or big problem.
@alexh3464
10 ай бұрын
Recently got back into the game and now that you've made this video I don't need to keep repeating myself whenever the bois say they're not sure if they should join me. Nice one!
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
You’re most welcome & thank you for the share!
@lunamaria1048
10 ай бұрын
As a long time backer, I have a lot of friends i made through Elite Dangerous that are asking me if SC is finally ready to try out. I'm always honest, so have a hard time telling someone to spend money on this, so typically tell them to wait for free fly days and decide for themselves. I think they can benefit from watching this video of yours, so I'll give this a share.
@baldmista1907
10 ай бұрын
A lot of people forget the fact that there is a 14 day refund policy. So if you don’t like the game…just refund. And it only costs $45 🤷♂️
@Shanex250
10 ай бұрын
I always say it's the one game you will never feel like you wasted money on, every person I have known to get into the game has spent more money on it, and while some of them hate on the game they going to be the first ones to play when the game comes together (in their eyes). The 45$ you get for the game is better than the $70 if not 100 people spent for lame ass starfield. I still feel second hand upset that someone I know paid 100 for starfield to play it early and they didn't even play it for more than a week, I paid a dollar for it and only played it for a week and still felt scammed. I will give star citizen it's gripes, but it is the only game I perpetually want to play, it is the only game I actually look forward to and if I have an excuse to play it, I am going to.
@TimSchraepen
10 ай бұрын
This might sound like a strange request, but I have not found this information readily available in any video yet. Could you make a video showing what to do when “stuff goes wrong”? In this video I heard you mention “…then try again”, as if you can start a “new game” or new character, with the tier you bought. Because I have not tried looking for how. I have been playing the game as if it’s “hardcore mode” (you die, you lose everything). Things I’m afraid of are: Getting exploded in space combat and losing my entire inventory. Dying on an FPS mission and not being able to retrieve the loot on my body. Getting server disconnected and respawning without any of my inventory. Experiencing inventory bugs and not being able to recover. Losing my ship to a thief stealing it when I’m on a box mission.
@Crook_Croberts
10 ай бұрын
Yea get a refund problem solved
@SkyForceOne2
10 ай бұрын
Thing is, it is currently very easy to make money and just re-buy most equipment, or have spare things readily available at your base station. 1. If you set out for space combat only (and nothing else), you only really need to equip the white horizon undersuit and helmet - they are freely given to you at any respawn. 2. Why should you not being able to retrieve it? you realistically only need a weapon to do fps missions. If you lose the marker for some reason (and dont have a spare ship) thats tough, but like i said, equipment is not that expensive. 3. Usually you keep your inventory. If not, like i said, there really is nothing too valuable to use, it's going to get wiped anyway. And if you have paid for it with cash, youll get it back. 4. same thing as above. if inventory bugs out tho, usually relog is enough. 5. If you close your ship behind you, it is extremely unlikely for anybody, even in general, to steal your ship. If so, well, worst case you fail the mission, no big deal? If you dont have a ship full of cargo, unlikely that anybody is going to try and steal it in the first place
@Orca_Blacksail
10 ай бұрын
U can do a character reset from the website only. Sets u back like day 1. U only lose items u buy in game but never ships unless CIG does a full wipe.
@Tainted-Soul
10 ай бұрын
the future is bright the future is Orange erm I mean Drake LOL . Star Citizen along with SQ42 is looking good but I would echo Loudgun's words of you only need to speed the starter package all the rest is up to you an only you can choose that along with what others have said don't expect to get more out of the game if you spend more. one day there may not be server / game re-set in which case you will have loads of in game dosh to spend on in game ships. Do not listen to the people that say you have to spend $$$ in this game you dont.
@cicio7777
10 ай бұрын
So what does ALT do in 3rd person mode?
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
F4 gets you to third person and a classic troll in SC is to tell someone that the answer to their question about controls is Alt + third person (which will then just close the client).
@frozenplague4003
10 ай бұрын
typo in description SOP in this vid
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@chrishoppner150
10 ай бұрын
No. You shouldn’t. There, I saved you some money.
@NemesisDK79
10 ай бұрын
Should you try it out? I would say yes. It is worth playing atm? Not for me, it has too many bugs and it gets frustrating real fast. However it I think SC will become the most epic game ever if they will make it work... But it will likely be years before that will happen.
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
I think it’s very much about your own personal tolerance for bugs and jank. And I think that’s why my final recommendation to play with others is so important - it does really help when it comes to getting through some of those setbacks which could’ve made me quit solo.
@NemesisDK79
10 ай бұрын
I do agree with that, that is also why I said not for me. However it might be ok for others. Playing with others does make it a bit better. I have played on and off for years, I enjoy logging on and playing a bit once in a while. I just wish that there was more to do easons to play and that it would work a bit better. But I must say SC has come a long way, and I have high hopes for the coming years 🤞
@DamonCzanik
10 ай бұрын
I also think it's dependent on your tolerance for bugs. Alphas aren't for everyone. It requires an adventurous spirit. I love to play do bounty hunting and salvage missions. They're far less buggy than FPS stuff & I enjoy them.
@bujin1977
10 ай бұрын
I jumped back in a few days ago for the first time since, I think, 3.18. I dip in every now and then to see what progress has been made. Decided to start out with a box delivery mission. My on my first actual mission, it failed to register that I'd picked up one of the boxes and there was nothing I could do to get it to work properly, so had to abandon the mission. This is the sort of thing that happened when I last played, and to see that it's still happening is not, IMO, great for the game. I then decided to try one of those base clearing missions. It CTDd before the lift had got into the base. That's when I gave up. It also runs really badly on my PC. My Ryzen 7 3700X and RTX 3070 graphics card can only manage about 24 fps in the big cities, and that is with the detail settings on low. I even dropped from 2K to 1080p, and that didn't help a great deal. May be struggling with RAM as I only have 16Gb. In some of the lighter areas I can get to about 45fps, which is playable, although still seems a little laggy. It's still a pretty fun experience, but while what I've seen of CitizenCon made it look awesome, I am still not convinced that it will ever be a game that is bug-free enough to be playable, or will run satisfactorily on most people's machines. They seem to be more focused on cramming new stuff into the game than fixing the stuff that's been broken for years.
@NemesisDK79
10 ай бұрын
@@bujin1977 SC pretty much needs 32Gb of RAM, you will really feel a difference if you go from 16 to 32
@MountainSnowInc
10 ай бұрын
I just really appreciate this type of video. So informative, non biased and educational. Love it! Thank you!
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
I feel it’s a tiny bit biased but I try to be honest in that I love the game, and I just try to dial it back to 90% fact / 10% I find this fun!
@lunamaria1048
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns Yes lol, it is definitely a bit biased, but you fully acknowledge that, which is probably refreshing for any potential new backers. I'm a long time backer, but I'm always 100% honest with potential new backers!
@Bluefork
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for great Vid, I bought the game and used your : Code : and I got extra 5000 credits and a : Quad Hoover Bike : Thank you for your help :)
@CrispyMuffin2
10 ай бұрын
I love how you can get all this for $25 less and 100+GB less than MW3, like its nuts how much value you can get out of a single purchase in this game compared to others For being labelled as a cashgrab, this game is pretty generous compared to AAA titles
@CodeBlue18
10 ай бұрын
I've been playing Star Citizen since 2017 and these are still some of my favorite videos about the game. While I unfortunately only play the game at the end of each year for a couple of months before I lose interest, I have to admit that there are still many activities and missions I've never tried, mainly because playing on my own often gets too boring or too dangerous. Playing with randos often enough brings more trouble than it's worth so I'll probably try joining a org and see how it goes.
@micknolan2061
10 ай бұрын
Another great offering from one of the best SC creators. From personal experience, I can attest to the value of pc interaction and org play. There really are no strangers in SC, just mates we have not met yet.
@DamonCzanik
10 ай бұрын
At $45, it's a great value. Additional ships help fund the game but can also be earned in-game. The gaming press often highlights expensive multi-crew ship prices, which are designed for large organizations. Think of having an aircraft carrier with no crew - it's pointless! These ships are designed for group efforts & prices reflect that. The $330 Valkyrie, a drop ship, fits 20 people, making it only $16.50 per person. This price becomes more reasonable for group play. Priciest ship is $2.5k, needing a crew of 80. 80 people! It's designed for organizations, working out to $31.25 each. Not cheap, but more reasonable. It's not "pay to win." as game mechanics are balanced like rock, paper, scissors. Capital ships overpower small fighters, bombers target capital ships, but small fighters destroy bombers. Capital ships are costly & need many resources and crew. Many ships serve non-combat roles like salvage, medical, mining, or repair. Just buy the starter package & if you absolutely need to, you can upgrade your ship to another ship via the website.
@shawnc5188
10 ай бұрын
LOL. I was just on a server where a new player had no idea what to do in SC! Then he started begging on global chat for auec to buy a trader...🤣 At this very moment.. 6/11/2023 - don't play SC. It's buggier than usual as there's a lot of 'stuff' in active testing and development, which impacts the persistent universe. Wait till 17 November when there's a FREE-FLY for IAE 2023 - you don't have to pay anything to play SC for 1 or 2 weeks, and will be able to fly over 90% of the ships in this game. kzitem.info/news/bejne/rqBryoGXcYqSiZgsi=nAToUO5EsQKPDNuj
@fajarn7052
10 ай бұрын
I even bought the SQ42 package half price back in 2016, 22.5$ for already hundred hours of fun. Currently, the state of SC is the ultimate sandbox experience. Its a barebone world with some semblance of gameplay loop without any progression beside fatten yourself with digital alpha currency. You have to search for your own fun things to do. I wouldn't recommend it for anybody but for those who are curious, 45$ is hardly a big amount of money considering the dogshit state of CP2077, NMS, and even Starfield, when they were launched. I would recommend instead take benefits of free flying weeks to see if the game is for you.
@NahtanKowalski
10 ай бұрын
I love Loud Guns' dialogue and content. This might be nit-picky, but I wish the background music was a bit more engaging or upbeat, or match the scene a bit. This music makes me zone out too much and I miss the content...
@miinyoo
10 ай бұрын
I backed this shit storm 10 years ago and it's nice to see it finally coming to fruition. Slowly. Still a lot of patience to be had but once the flight model is finalized, I'll be romping in the verse for sure. That's the only thing holding me back. I can take a ton of jank but refuse to play until the flight mechanics stop changing.
@JDBriceProductions
10 ай бұрын
Verse Guide? I've been at this for a year and only now hearing about it? Nice! I certainly appreciate any help with exploration that I can get.
@hypertion
10 ай бұрын
Yes, during a free fly. The game is buggy and freeflys often overload the game to its worst. This is the best time to get a honest idea of the game before you buy.
@toonstyle1
10 ай бұрын
lets gooooo cant wait for this year iae and luminelia :3 so many new things :3 ps u know when are the time laps u can play on pyro playground?
@josemartins-game
10 ай бұрын
Its a geat game. I hope they implement VR soon.
@cpt.tombstone
10 ай бұрын
It's really cool to see how much has been added over the last few years. I became a backer around 2016, and for the game has been on the back-burner for me until late 2020 / early 2021. Since then, so many new loops have been added. 2-3 years ago, we couldn't move cargo around, didn't have inventories, couldn't really loot anyone, we didn't have consequences for dying, we didn't have salvage nor racing. Now, the mentioned aspects for bounty hunting are on the horizon, server meshing is no longer 1-2 years away, and we have Pyro in the preview channel. Oh, and squadron 42 is feature complete. Yeah. We've come a long way. And we still have more to go. I'm curious what you will have to talk about next year.
@Stigglitch
10 ай бұрын
Stay away! It's highly addictive unless you think every Call of Duty is a innovative masterpiece.
@B.D.E.
10 ай бұрын
Try it for free during IAE or any free fly event, no reason to pay anything before you try it. They run free fly events every quarter, and the next one starts on either November the 17th or 18th. Don't spend that 45 USD until you have tried it. The conversion rate from free trials to buying the game is insanely high, like 75%! So that's a very clear objective sign that the game sells itself. Still a great video, as it introduces new players to what they might be able to do during their free trial!
@Strandbacker
10 ай бұрын
I encourage potential new players to look at the ongoing PVP discussion before joing a game that is currently largely tailored to griefers and player killers.
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
When were you last actually shot down by a player while out doing an industrial loop?
@Strandbacker
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns Not helpful. I dont play regulary because the game is too bugged (speaking of live, I dont like having a bugged inventory to say the least). But I do watch streams and there of I can see what happens in pyro or when CIG lets people test changed SoO and then get greeted with a group firing grenades into them at a choke point - for just the LULs. Always the same assholes show up and kiling people. I could not care less because CIG clearly also does not. But the effect of this is, that these assholes still running around living on the fact that there is no negative side effect of killing players when doing so (and on test environment where you can copy over your char and remove as thus any klescher sentence, even the super mild klescher cannot stop the griefers) You can deny this but it happens and I dont see any reason why this should change without CIG ackknowledging the problem (they think, that players should fix this pvp problem with more pvp).
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
@@Strandbacker All I mean is (as someone who does play off stream a lot) that the PvP side is over exaggerated quite a bit. Tbf streamers will naturally attract PvP'ers and griefers who want their little moment of fame so I don't think it's a good benchmark. I would expect Pyro to be a hotbed of pew pews but at the same time does that not then make Stanton better for the average PvE player?
@johnfranklin2547
10 ай бұрын
Should noobs Buy SC now? NNOOOOO! Should noobs join the free fly at IAE this month? Abso Freakin Lootsy. Try n Fly Free and decide yourself R U ready for life in the verse.
@BerraLJ
10 ай бұрын
Do you sell the salvage in major spaceports or any special outpost?
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Legal cargos can go to the TDD’s (quantanium etc) but the drugs have to go to scrapyards or other NQA terminals.
@BerraLJ
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns Cool thanks, not even logged on to the game lately but i guess i should check out the Vulture that i did buy :)
@mariocarolino9607
10 ай бұрын
Great vídeo ❤
@rocky258258
10 ай бұрын
im only a week deep and I personally enjoy, a lot. You have to be REALLY patient and have lots of spare time for this game. I find myself having most fun just exploring the verse and just messing with my fds, quite literally just hanging out in different ships and roleplay.
@MAJOR_PICKLE
10 ай бұрын
Not unless you have a High End PC with all the Bell's & Whistles that would be able to run the game😑
@Abyssdiver
10 ай бұрын
And even then you are lucky to see 35fps in cities its complete garbage
@Orca_Blacksail
10 ай бұрын
Averaged 59fps over a year ago on an rx580 8gb w an AMD ryzen 3 w 16gb of ram. Medium settings.
@Abyssdiver
10 ай бұрын
@@Orca_Blacksail Yea hahaha ok bub. Today 3070 8gb w I7 8700k clocked at 5ghz on all cores and 64gb ram running it on a NVMe drive med settings lucky to see 30fps in the cities. It runs like TRASH
@Orca_Blacksail
10 ай бұрын
@@Abyssdiver Brah.. it's not for the computer illiterate?? On a 3080 now and average close to 100fps. Ryzen 5 3d. If u get those speeds and ur proc is decent u just don't know what ur doing. I believe ur virtual memory should be 1.5x that 64gb. Made a huge difference on my old system.
@jamespruitt4756
10 ай бұрын
i recently just got my first vulture... turns out i love space powerwash sim :D
@chrictonj9503
10 ай бұрын
"pewpew action fancies". Such a way with words. 😁
@PvtDamion
10 ай бұрын
I love these videos you make and like someone mentioned before; these videos are great for showing your mates how cool SC has gotten, without sounding like a broken record yourself. I haven't gotten into racing yet, but with the recent victory by Frontier Consolidated and having a Fury LX in my hangar, I think I need to give it a go. Also hoping Bounty Hunting will get fleshed out in a fun way (I've got some ideas for to make it fun) and am looking forward to Cargo Hauling. I like doing things like simple delivery missions, but not do the whole trading part, so that loop seems ideal to me
@mantasbekesius6993
10 ай бұрын
I bought this game after seeing a dude fly with Constellation Andromeda. That ship got me into it
@MadworldofChaos
10 ай бұрын
Another great video dude im interested on your take on the engineering game play and which ships can still be soloed im hoping the 400i with it's 3 power plants and numerous back up will still be a good choice
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Cheers mate - honestly I think it massively depends on how much risk you’re taking, probably to some degree as long as you maintain your ship well in between outings you’d be ok solo in fairly safe space. But if you take to the same ship and get shot at a lot you’d need a decent crew compliment. Your point about contingency on some ships makes a lot of sense. We did a distortion weapons race - Scarlett apex - this weekend just gone, and out pilot Ryu kept one of the Hammerhead’s power plants completely shut down so he could spool it up if plant 1 got taken offline. Thinking about things in this way could really make a difference.
@dek5775
10 ай бұрын
dont play the game play it when it feels like playing
@GunmadMadman
10 ай бұрын
I flipping love JPEGs. Especially the sexy ones that come in boxes 😂
@thedudeabides3138
10 ай бұрын
Great video, lot of work went into this, thank you for your time and effort.
@jawszy
10 ай бұрын
hey what’s the intro song you used?
@voxdeus
10 ай бұрын
its 56.25 dollars not 45 dollars
@charlesrobertson2979
10 ай бұрын
Should add a No before Should
@Podokodo23
10 ай бұрын
Fantastic summery.
@porkorosso7885
10 ай бұрын
Great level headed summary. Cheers.
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
That was the goal so thank you very much 🙏
@BlakedaBull
10 ай бұрын
there is a good 50 hours of gameplay (kind of pushing it.) this is stressful at time, or big empty moments, or need for third party research/ tools. at my point of being around the project other than seeing small changes grow into changing the usual/old experience is cool and the last pure form of gameplay i haven't explored completly...because it is always slowly growing. right now it feels like a chat room with cool ships. (after you done all the loops, with friends maybe it goes on for ever.) anyways the realy reason i made this is what do people do while waiting in SC? to you watch youtube as you qt over 10 mil, do you listen to album as you go rock rock drilling? are you reading a book, getting a few sentances again if the server crashes or you die and waiting for the load back to hospital. Shame simple tools could make global chat a little more useful, and less a good filter to find out if other people answer kind to noob questions or have a personality flaw to record for personal use.
@firestorm8321
10 ай бұрын
Word.
@SeerreuS
10 ай бұрын
Can anyone tell me how you retrieve gear or armor that you received from purchasing say The Nomad package if you die is that stuff gone. My buddy jumped out into my snub fighter and accidentally hit the ship while trying to dock he died I was able to retrieve all of his gear off of his body and bring it back to my ship to Constellation and take it back PlanetSide and he was able to recover it but until then we thought he had lost it
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel this is something that’s explained very poorly - right now items like armour and guns that are bought for £$€ are lost when you die until there’s a reset (unless you recover your body). They will come back with each new patch and there are plans to implement a system to recover them but it’s not here yet. In terms of the ones that come with the ships I would view them as nice to have but disposable (pretty much all of those can be bought in game).
@SeerreuS
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns my friend almost did an account recovery to regain his items but I completely understand what you're saying and it makes sense that you would lose items like armor and guns until the reset or until they have some type of insurance system for purchased items with money.if but it's still cool I was able to go out in space with my suit and pull his body back into the ship and land PlanetSide although I wasn't given an icon for the bay I was supposed to land in I had to guess which one it was fortunately there was a bay door open at new Babbage I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out where to land
@Orca_Blacksail
10 ай бұрын
Just do character reset from the website. You will keep in game purchased ships and it'll be like day 1.
@SeerreuS
10 ай бұрын
@Orca_Blacksail that's what he was going to do that's what we probably will do from here on out do you have to create a new username when you do this?
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
@@Orca_Blacksail did they reverse the change to character repair?
@Volf1916
10 ай бұрын
To answer that question, simply no. Money is way better spent elsewhere rather than a piece of entertainment that is not even tech complete let alone in a functional test beta. FOMO is a fiction used by marketing, the bias on what is and is not functional or accessible is significant. The anger and vitriol towards those that even question in the community if it is the quintessential peak of all things gaming is more than any other community of MMO players I have come across. To Aquent those that have asked me about the alpha I pull up the "Star Citizen WTF & Funny Moments" as what they can expect as normal content in a game session.
@kennethjensen730
10 ай бұрын
Not atm No, unless u wanna support the game, not worth playing, since there really is No game. Just a test system with 100 players and 1000 of bugs, nothing to work towards that gives meaning. Its still not a game. You will lose your money, and you will lose your ships.
@iamjeramy
10 ай бұрын
But also fun to play with some friends! You WILL lose your money and lose your ships, but you will get more money and buy more ships. The bugs can be annoying, but having people to play with smooths that annoyance a bit. I do have to take some time sometimes to chill out after a frustrating play session of bugginess, but that is also true of many other games. The goal is not money, the goal is having fun with friends. Or just moving cargo to give you something to occupy you while listening to a podcast or watching a show. As with all things, YMMV
@kennethjensen730
10 ай бұрын
@@iamjeramy i agree on most, but ill rather listen to the podcast in peace then 😅 and yes, friends makes this game a lot more fun, but atm im playing alone since No friends is playing it. But when, some day, this become a real game, where u really van invest your time and see the results, that day ill be happy
@CrookCroberts
10 ай бұрын
100% not worth spending any money on. It is 13 years old already and still a barely playable test demo!
@Inar038
10 ай бұрын
@@CrookCroberts stop recycling bad info.. that tech demo shit gets old when you can easily get hours and hours of gameplay, you just have to get through the learning curve, which is extreamly steep.
@CrookCroberts
10 ай бұрын
@@Inar038 You can lie to yourself as well anyone reading your post. IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A TEST DEMO with NO FLESHED OUT GAME LOOPS as well so BROKEN it CRASHES and broken BUGS at every step of the way! I stand by what I said it is a 13 year old BARELY playable TEST DEMO.... GET OVER IT
@Abyssdiver
10 ай бұрын
13 years in and with well over $600,000,000 to test out their barely playable test demo. This last CitizenCON is all in its name "CON" nothing but smoke and mirrors just like every other one in the past they do every year just before a large JPEG sale. They get people to open their wallets and prey heavily on fear of missing out FOMO to fuel their JPEG sales. The engine is nothing more than the 2009 CryEngine3 that has been botched and broken in so many ways and all the crashes and bugs inside their "test demo" really shows. So NO this 💩show is not worth a single penny to test out their broken code wait for a free fly event and see for yourself.
@LoudGuns
10 ай бұрын
Every opinion is valid in this regard, but I do always notice that when someone gets very angry they can never leave it at a single comment like this and have to also go on a tirade in a number of other comment threads. Honestly, getting really angry is probably just bad for your health - just enjoy other games 👍
@Abyssdiver
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns Hmm funny how truth is getting very angry... Yea ok I do enjoy other games as well I do enjoy watching KZitem videos and commenting on them like I did here. Now if I was using foul language cussing and such sure there would be anger. Yet you boi's that continually shill for this broken test demo ALWAYS take the opinion I wrote above as "HATE SPEECH" "BEING ANGRY" and always say GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME as if we don't already. So if you can't roll with the punches and take criticism perhaps stop making youtube videos about what is probably the most controversial marketing scheme in gaming history....
@CrookCroberts
10 ай бұрын
@@LoudGuns laughing at Scam Citizen ohh I am sooooo angry
@csdigitaldesign
10 ай бұрын
@CrookCroberts calling it a scam just goes to show how ignorant you are. Learn about something before just blindly following masses and calling it a scam. You are entitled to an opinion but the fact is its anything but a scam.
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