@@Matrioth The wording on the item is "Max shrapnel target parts 1". So it maxes on 1, it doesn't say "Max shrapnel count +1". Cage helmet gives +1 to shrapnel count which is IMO much better. Since 2 shrapnel procs have more damage than one shrapnel proc with 20% increase.
@vland9900
Ай бұрын
@@Matriothit means instead of having 2-3 sharapnels being shot to different parts, you now just get 1 but it’s does 120% more damage
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
yes but you do the damage of and extra 1.2 proc, ie 2.2 is better than 2. the math ends up being the gas tight hood does 10% more damage than the berre or caged
@xenoclix
Ай бұрын
Can you show this build in action? So many videos on builds and no one shows them in action.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@xenoclix yes, the complete build with footage will be in two weeks once we can actually put it all together, mods, gear, and guns
@RAWRLEN87
Ай бұрын
You could have showed your cradle override nodes to give us more insight in your build. Maybe next time thanks for the vid!
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
oh dont worry, im making a more in depth video. the issue is with all the time gates theres certain things that cant be shown like mods and what not. But I do intend on going into the numbers in the next one!
@Darksyde1029
Ай бұрын
Was hoping to see you demonstrate the build in this video. The Last Valor looks like it has been changed pretty drastically since I used it back in the April beta. Have you actually used it since it was changed? Depending on how it works mechanically it could be significantly worse than it was before so I'm really curious if you've had a chance to actually test the new version.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
I am using it right now and not much has changed about it, it still slaps like a truck. And the reason I didn't demonstrate is because I don't have all the pieces for the build made, I should have all the mods and gear I need by next week so stay tuned.
@Darksyde1029
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando Well just based on the text on the weapon it looks like a lot has changed. In the April beta it said something along the lines of... "Hit 4 times to trigger Shrapnel" "Crit hits count as 2 hits" "After a crit, the number of shrapnel triggered +1 for 1 second" "+30% critical damage from shrapnel" But now on the release client it says... "4% chance to trigger shrapnel on hit" "Crit hits count as 2 hits" "Crit hits grant Shrapnel trigger chance +1 for 1s" "Shrapnel crit damage +30%" So unless this is a translation error, it looks like it went from a guaranteed shrapnel proc every 2-4 hits based on if you crit or not, to now being a 4% chance per shot, with an increasing chance each time you crit. But I don't have the weapon so I don't fully understand how the new version works when it says "crit hits count as 2 hits". Does that mean it rolls 2 separate 4% chances to trigger shrapnel whenever you crit? If this new version works the way it says then it's a huge nerf compared to the April version.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@Darksyde1029 no clue but it still feels nice, Ill do a demonstration in like 2 weeks when the build is complete
@Darksyde1029
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando Have you done any damage testing on a dummy yet? I'm curious what kind of numbers you're doing even without all the optimized mods.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@Darksyde1029 think with just the gun and I was using steel ammo, was doing 17k, so im thinking with everything the potential could be upwards of 80k on the low and maybe 110k on the high but its hard to say
@gnoel5722
Ай бұрын
Could you make a video demonstrating that the VALOR it is NOT a "4% chance proc(once every 25 shots)" and instead a "once every 4 hits"? because that is the difference between a bad build and a god tier. I am rocking the smg because of the 30% proc chance but the VALOR would be better if it is a once every 4 hits garantied. ALSO, from my undertanding you are wrong on the helmet. It doesnt give you +1 shrapnel proc, the other one at 8K does that, this one MAX your proc at +1 (so only 1 proc of shrapnel maximum) but does +120% of damage. So with this helmet, if you do 1000 base damage you would proc 1 time at 50%Sharpnel damage (500) + 120% (700) so a MAX 1 proc of 1200 shrapnel damage, TOTAL 2200 damage. With the other helmet who give you + 1 shrapnel proc it would be: 1000 base damage + sharpnel proc at 50% damage (500) + 1 garantied shrapnel (500) so it would end up at 2000 damage total but the extra shrapnel has an extra chance to CRIT or an extra chance to hit a WEAK spot for extra damage and would also be more affected by items who boost you shrapnel damage. so it personnaly think the +1 shrapnel helmet is better than the MAX 1 sharpnel with +120%.
@Jamespeterstu
Ай бұрын
I think you're right. But the interesting thing would be the Cage helmet. I dont have it to test but it says +1 trigger chance. If that means the requirement to proc shrapnel goes from 4 hits to 3 hits that would be potentially much better than the beret because using shrapnel carnage you are going to be hitting the head with shrapnel. That said, I'm not sure how to actually get this gun to be good. Whenever I test on dummy vs my lightning rifle it's just hugely outmatched if you aim for head - and using SC mod and then shooting body feels like the gap is even worse. I'm not super geared yet and so it could scale up enough with crit chance but right now it feels like power surge is just better, and more reliable, and doesn't have falloff damage. Power surge has a lot more functional cradle mods which is why i think it's this way - but at the same time that means you have less open slots for damage reduction for pvp...
@gnoel5722
Ай бұрын
@@Jamespeterstu Yeah, I keep seeing comment that people are sleeping on the power surge build but the thing is shrapnel damage is based on weapon damage and power surge is based on Psi damage. So boosting your weapon damage increase your base damage + shrapnel damage while if you go with power surge you need to increase your weapon damage AND / OR PSI damage to ramp up the DPS. But I might be wrong it"s all new for everyone.
@Jamespeterstu
Ай бұрын
@@gnoel5722 I tested cage helmet now. I have no idea what it does. It appears like its identical to beret... but it does less DPS on dummy. And it's true that surge would scale off wd + psi vs just WD. But what that also means is u have 6 item slots to upgrade for psi vs just the weapon slot. I'm not sure how that works out in terms of scaling either. Power surge also applies like -70 accuracy on enemies so anyone hip firing is super scuffed.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
every helmet has been tested and gas tight helm does 10% more than the berret, but when crits and weakspots come into play the gas tight only does like 4% more damage but 4% is still 4% more
@Apollo_White
Ай бұрын
what about a power surge build with the lone wolf set? with that one mask it looks like a gas mask that does like 35% extra power surge
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
I will be doing a build video for all but yes the gas mask hood for crit rate is the one you want to go for
@bradturner7678
Ай бұрын
i tried this with lonewolf, and the gasmask seems to do worse than the goggles.
@Apollo_White
Ай бұрын
@@bradturner7678 so would the lone wolf set be pretty good then with power surge?
@vland9900
Ай бұрын
Hey bro I just wanna confirm. I think the helmet limits your shrapnel to just 1 being fired instead of multiple but that 1 being fired does 120% more damage . Or is this just a poor translation like with the 4% chance actually being every 4 bullets? With that being said does it really do more dps than beret?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
so from my understand is yes its only one, the math of it is the berre or caged does 2 in total, however the gas tight hood is basically adding an extra 1.2 shrap because of the extra damage to the only 1 shrap, so youre still technically doing an extra 10% more damage with the gas tight hood over the berre or caged
@vland9900
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando so how woutld you go in order of upgrades? should i start with the helm and then the set or vice versa?
@tusharmasti3123
Ай бұрын
Personally, I like Div Evo more than last valor. For starter, you don't need to spend starchrome on div evo as you get it through the quest reward, and you have 25% shrapnel proc. Also, it has higher fire rate, so faster shrapnel procs.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
yeah the div evo is nice but tends to not have the same dps, but i still have it in the off hand!
@tusharmasti3123
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando Actually, some people are saying the SCAR's description might have a typo, that it proc's shrapnel every 4 hits instead of 4%. If that is the case then yeah, SCAR is the GOAT
@singularitybound
Ай бұрын
@@tusharmasti3123 This is a myth.. the 4 / hit is how it was. Now its correct. People know because the Valor out of the box feels nothing like it did before. This is why the Evo is so hyped now, it decimates bosses solo if shrap building. The second reason is when your crit gets high enough the Valor starts to perform like it previously had (and catching back up to the Evo), validating the tool tip. The more crits the more bonus frags. Before it ran off the per 4 hit which is why it was so good out of the box before.
@ghontukhatertola6907
Ай бұрын
@@singularityboundYou couldn't be more wrong the scar is still every 4 hits trigger shrapnel and it still is miles above the div evo
@waterm3lonlover937
Ай бұрын
Awesome video! Hey can you make a specialization tier list plz ?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
I can try, maybe would it be better to just do a video on the ones you should go after?
@waterm3lonlover937
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando Yeah! Wtv format you feel works best! Cuz I know its alot of RNG so it might be impossible to go after everything, so as long as there's a bunch of options for everyone, on the best specs to look out for =D! Thanks alot, looking forward to it, ik alot of people are grinding their brains on the specs and loosing out on them cuz they are waiting on opinions lol
@josephsantiago1852
Ай бұрын
My question do I have to use the div evo as my secondary or can I use the crossbows whit bullseye per to get more damage
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
use whatever makes sense to you, don't let a youtuber tell you what build you should feel most comfortable using
@oFiGuReZo
Ай бұрын
Ppl sleeping on shock builds
@P1DZz
Ай бұрын
You seen any good build videos? That stun shits on me in PVP some times and I cbf finding my own build 🤣
@oFiGuReZo
Ай бұрын
@@P1DZz I’m running the shock smg build the shock shotgun gos crazy in pvp
@joshfoster7795
Ай бұрын
is the only way to get these armor blueprints through the wish machine?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@joshfoster7795 permanently yes, you can get them from high level gear crates but it’s rng and I don’t think you can repair them, only when you craft them yourself are they permanent
@MultiGreenbuds
Ай бұрын
Xbow prc Before you hit is higher dps
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@MultiGreenbuds yeah but you can do that for every build, I haven’t done it but that’s just because the dps of this build is already so high it’s not really necessary… well at least until we get to LEA or the Giant
@sadpay
Ай бұрын
why do you should get a weakspot bonuses? It doesnt combine with crits. Or I dont know something
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
yes crits do effect weakspots
@sadpay
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando so can we get roughly speaking * * ?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@sadpay what I had on the beta was, 47% base weapon damage increase, 42% crit rate increase, 89% crit damage increase, and 112 weakspot damage increase. And that wasn't even the best you could do
@Arrakis40K
Ай бұрын
Level 36 dude?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
yeah, im level 50 now, when i filmed this video we couldnt get into tall grass at the time. I'm using my knowledge from the cbts and demo for this build. Footage of what its capable of in the near future
@Arrakis40K
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando Cool video though! \o/
@doomslayerforever2858
Ай бұрын
first bro that gear set is wish clown machine only it wont happen falcon is good enough for now
@Jamespeterstu
Ай бұрын
It's 3k per piece.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
correct but the wish machine is where you get the best loot. This is an end game build not what is easy to get
@Dorfess
Ай бұрын
would you say gas mask out dps the barret?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
gat tight hood does yes
@darlingcasa1873
Ай бұрын
Best sniper build?And best legendary weapon in general?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
best in general, best sniper build is the boom boom build which I will be doing next
@Fhysique
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando was going to ask this same question but glad i checked through comments. looking forward to this video also. this one was great
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@Fhysique thank you so much! Going to try and get around to all the builds in this game.
@NATEDAWGG79
Ай бұрын
dang I think I messed up unlocking all the blueprints I can
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
not to worry theres always more starchrom each week
@NATEDAWGG79
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando gonna just start fresh and follow this guide! Thanks Man!
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@NATEDAWGG79 sounds good! The build is coming together slowly but surely, just a matter of the starchrom lock
@doomslayerforever2858
Ай бұрын
yeah dont do that next season
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@doomslayerforever2858 dont do what?
@Bociik
Ай бұрын
What about gold mods with shrapnel core effect? Are they usefull or should i look for crit dmg etc?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
well this build is based on the beta and since then, I've seen so many new gold mods. I'd recommend crit rate and damage, weapon damage, and either mag capacity/reload speed. But there might be some new mods that are worth more than those stats Ill keep you guys updated in another video once the build is made best in slot.
@tcaps2115
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando how about weapon mods? no build guide tells you wwhat wepaon mod to go for lol
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@tcaps2115 good mods come out during hard mode and there are some new ones since beta, so got to wait at least until hard mode comes out before we can say for certain
@depracated
Ай бұрын
Should I get the gun or gear set first?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
gun first, the last valor does so much damage but the gear just boosts the damage
@monsterrunleashed
Ай бұрын
Good stuff, build looks solid!
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
thank you!
@MishaXG
Ай бұрын
Not sure about the set for PvP at least. Yes you gain more crit dmg but it has to proc. In real scenario zhere player are moving and hidding Time to kill is the most important thing or Crowd Control like a stun. Falcon also has some problems like stamina management to get the bonuses but in practice you decide when you proc your bonus while the other item not real cause it s only when you shoot + when you crit. Interesting question is does the shatter effect count as a crit to gain stats or only the hit and not the bounce ?
@kaiserdarkangel
Ай бұрын
build is more for pve (bossing) or taking down big enemies , but damage output is so high that you can use it on pvp too is just flat damage just that ,not explosions or status or anything just pure dps damage , for now best pvp builds are bomber , bulleye, icy rain , and div evo ( div evo at cqc shreds armor , and purple scar for pvp is good too( way too good)
@MishaXG
Ай бұрын
@@kaiserdarkangel icy rain too as a build for pvp? thought the numbers where a bit low and the frost effect wasnt great except if you use the shotgun that can freeze the target when you want to have basically a free kill?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@MishaXG it does work for PvP too, the issue is hard mode isn’t out and we don’t know what new mods have come out but from the betas there were mods that boosted crit as high as 60% (base crit) shrapnel has its own crit modifier though. Until I know more, I can’t be certain but once I have the build together I will show how well it works in both pve and pvp (if it’s anything like the beta it shreds)
@kaiserdarkangel
Ай бұрын
@@MishaXG spray and pray build for pvp shotguns are good too but not really interested in them now , and try div evo with same shrapnel build on pvp for some reason it melts at least for now
@samuelquemag1062
Ай бұрын
I've a lot more fun with unstable bomber
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
thats fair, thats how I feel about shrap. Both builds are very very good its just a matter of preference
@takiburistabol191
Ай бұрын
wait so which one do we run endgame, bastille or gas tight?
@cerberus6400
Ай бұрын
You wear 4 pieces of Lonewolf with 1 piece of Bastille and the head slot is the Gas-tight. That's all 6 slots filled.
@aruex34
Ай бұрын
isnt 4 star pioneer stronger than last valor?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
cant compare apples to oranges, if the pioneer is 4 star we should make the last valor 4 star as well and then the last valor wins every time
@deathlapse3384
Ай бұрын
this is such a bad guide ahah, go test ur dps with this build im really curious how bad it is. There are way better choices for this build than the ones you recommend
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
i have tested this build... you dont think ive played all the betas? Im a once human cc, and beyond testing ive taken the time to actually do the math. Why would I tell you a wrong build?
@deathlapse3384
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando then post an up to date video while also showing your dps on dummy. All im seeing is misinfo or missing info
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@deathlapse3384 one calm down you dont need to be mad, and 2 the only thing wrong are mods being missing and those couldnt be farmed until hard mode, theres no misinformation, i literally have 130 hours on the base game so far and 700 hours combined on the betas. just because your build is different doesnt mean mine is wrong.
@deathlapse3384
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando im not mad at all, but dont post outdated and incomplete videos recorded months ago and act as if you are posting a guide. All you have to do is record one now, show end game gear and mods, explain your math, and then add a 6 second clip of you shooting the head of the dummy. Suddenly people will pay attention and your video wont be seen as clickbait especially with thirty other shrapnel vids out there that at least are recorded with current gameplay and show some actual end game gear. In other words, I actually want you to be correct and tell me something I didnt know, but you fail to prove anything so im being left dissapointed that I wasted my time watching an inconclusive video.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@deathlapse3384 i recorded that the day before i posted it, and if my build is so wrong what build is better id love to know
@RedgBouchard
Ай бұрын
Hi, i just watched your video and really enjoyed it, but i don't understand the 6 pieces set, you're saying to use the '' Beyonder Bastille SET Frag Legendary Helmet '' as 5th piece, then after you say we have to use '' Gas-Tight Helmet Frag which is another Helmet right? i can't use 2 helmets...or it looks like a helmet but it's gonna equip on the Gas mask slot?. Thanks for your help
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
use 4 pieces of lone wolf, 1 piece of bastille, and the gas tight hood, the order for lone wolf or basille doesn't really matter just as long as the helmet slot isnt being used
@RedgBouchard
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando I know, i'll use 4 lone wolf piece, so i need 2 more, but the Bastille Head is a head and the gaz tight hood is a head piece too, how am i supposed to equip 2 headpieces? unless you tell me that the gas tight hood is in the Helmet section but its in reality a gas mask?
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@RedgBouchard bastille is a set, you can use any bastille piece besides the helm
@xaviar87
Ай бұрын
4% chance to get shrapnel, chances are low, why people love this gun? am i missing something? the blue version have 30% of getting shrapnel.
@GoT_Lukass
Ай бұрын
asking same thing
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
sounds about right
@Jamespeterstu
Ай бұрын
It's because it's a bad translation. The shrapnel is every 4 hits. And a crit counts as 2 hits. So if you hit 3 times with 1 being a crit u get a shrapnel.
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
@@Jamespeterstu exactly
@P1DZz
Ай бұрын
"pistols or boltys are a no from me" so you can't aim and you wabna spray and pray 😝
@toxccommando
Ай бұрын
Ive played both in the cbts and demo, its not a matter of aim its a matter of I like ars better
@P1DZz
Ай бұрын
@@toxccommando I'm kidding bud, it's not a competitive shooter that's forsure aim isn't the biggest key
@MicroDotTV
9 күн бұрын
lol not the best hah
@toxccommando
7 күн бұрын
ah yes because other big youtube said so that makes it true... hahaha
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