Poetic that Liu Shan surrendered in the same fashion as Liu Zhang
@amenbest9641
4 ай бұрын
Liu zhang is useless ruler have money doesn't guarantee kingdom will survive😂
@andrewnguyen4037
5 жыл бұрын
Even the Wei officers are confused with how peaceful and cooperating Liu Shan was with this ordeal. I thought that was funny. But Liu Shan's decision makes sense. To me at least. At first glance, this definitely seems tragic. Surrendering definitely was not the best for the kingdom of Shu in terms of surviving or maintaining power. However, Liu Shan did not feel bound to any kingdom or family heir/bloodline obligations. His goal was peace, and he didn't care under whose name or banner that peace would come under, he just wanted it. Surrendering was an excellent move for that. He saved bloodshed and fighting, instead of bringing many men into an unpromising struggle. I think he was happy with his decision. The only tragedy to him is that the Shu banner is no more, but that isn't as significant to him as what he traded it for.
@Blackwolfninja89
5 жыл бұрын
He and Sima Zhao had that same conversation in Dynasty Warriors 7
@andrewnguyen4037
5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Rainge oh shit lol idk. Thanks for letting me know, I haven’t actually played that far in the series.
@vincently2552
5 жыл бұрын
What happen to the Shu Kingdom?
@vincentlysrandomstuffs8924
5 жыл бұрын
It had been ended by Wei.
@azizabdul8914
3 жыл бұрын
Jiang Wei also exhausted the kingdom's wealth and resources for their endless campaign to the north.
@mw568
6 жыл бұрын
If Liu bei , Zhuge liang and Guan yu and Zhang fei were alive , shu never surrender to wei
@shanyduhoke1520
6 жыл бұрын
Seljuk warrior and Zhao yun too
@warlords5902
5 жыл бұрын
Seljuk warrior and Ma Chao
@cainespade514
5 жыл бұрын
Cao Cao could be considered as well, since he had created an impression of putting a warlord in the golden cage.
@ZhuGeLiang6969
5 жыл бұрын
tbh... the downfall of shu maybe start from guan yu, yes the arrogance of guan yu. but anyway...
@WynterRayn19
4 жыл бұрын
Saitama Caped Baldy it all started from Guanyu, had he listened to Zhugeliang and Liubei none of the shit that he caused would’ve happened.
@Huben57
Жыл бұрын
imagine at 4:19 that Shu soldier was with Liu Bei since the beginning ever since he, zhang fei and guan yu formed their army
@pensamithketya-4382
Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm
@DNAP26
3 ай бұрын
Liao Hua, and 2 Zhang Yi are former Yellow Turban officers, they joined Shu since the three brothers were still alive, even until Shu's downfall
@energiesoler
4 жыл бұрын
Qiao Zhou : we can't join Wu, they'll probably surrender to Wei and then we'll be shamed for becoming subjects of Wei Liu Shan : so what do we do instead ? Qiao Zhou : let's surrender to Wei right now Liu Shan : that sounds like such a good idea ! Liu Chen : *facepalms*
@alexius8392
4 жыл бұрын
flo32om Actually it makes sense because if Liu Shan surrendered to Wei, as a former emperor he would easily get the title of a duke or a king, but if he surrendered to Wu at first and became a duke of Wu, he could only expect a title of a marquis after Wu surrendered. In both cases it would be a great shame for a former emperor to become a subject, but in the former case at least he could live a better life...
@Scrowlock12
10 ай бұрын
There are two ways to look at this. 1. Liu Shan is a coward for surrendering and not fighting until the end. His predecessors would have fought until death because they really believed in the Shu Han dynasty. 2. Liu Shan was more peaceful and virtuous than Liu Bei and carried out those principles better by surrendering to Wei/Jin. He saved many soldiers from dying and hardship on the people.
@josuevilla3024
6 жыл бұрын
I cried when I saw the soldier at the gate crying :'(
@brokensky2378
4 жыл бұрын
given how old he is, and the fact that Zhuge Liang's army was basically the entire Shu military for the entirety of his campaign, the man was probably a veteran of the Northern campaigns.
@roychui6694
4 жыл бұрын
That soldier looks like Jiang Wei the Shu General.
@Wee2Yang
Жыл бұрын
Wait till you see what the son of Liu Shan did to his family after realising that persuading his father is futile😥
@pauloh.alchaar
Жыл бұрын
@@Wee2Yang What happens?
@MastersDefender
10 ай бұрын
@@pauloh.alchaar The prince, Liu Chen, killed his wife and children before committing suicide. As he said, he'd rather die than surrender. I don't know whether his wife and children followed him out of loyalty or he forced it upon them, but given that they all went to Liu Bei's ancestral temple where the murder-suicide was done, it's quite possible that it's the former and that it was meant to be a ritual suicide for them: Liu Chen killed his wife and children first, then himself.
@mymagicloulou4394
7 жыл бұрын
Organization that live in longer hundred years because of heirs are not based only blood of family founders, but of competent able that have loyal and integrity heart, even though they are not same blood. Shu's fall was the examp!e of heir that only based on blood, thus leading to fall once meet the obstacle.
@afterburner44
5 жыл бұрын
Though he may not possess the strength of his father, he shares his love of virtue.
@rosebet348
5 жыл бұрын
The soldier who cried when shu han surrendered made me sad :(
@RealSethLong
7 жыл бұрын
From what I understand from Prof. Yi Chongtian, Liu Shan's surrender was the best decision Shu could have made by this point.
@spalenzagabriel
6 жыл бұрын
After all those years of corruption to its roots with no hope of a new and strong emperor (Like Liu Chen could have been), I can't disagree.
@DeardropsRiho
5 жыл бұрын
Why he waited through all those years? During 40 years, he let Zhuge Liang then Jiang Wei leads men to war against Wei but when it is up to him to defend himself, he surrendered like a coward.
@brokensky2378
4 жыл бұрын
It was honestly pretty disastrous for Shu at that point, considering a population of one million had to support an army of 100,000. That’s like if two families of farmers have to support a single soldier, with all the armor, equipment, grain for marching, etc. Wei had at least 5 or 6 million people with barely twice the army, and held far more land that was well managed since Cao Cao started his campaigns.
@wills.364
20 күн бұрын
Loved the look from the opposition when they were told of Shu surrendering.
@Megumi_Bandicoot
5 жыл бұрын
It’s more like Shu surrenders to Jin. “Wei” was long dead by this point.
@ck-rs2qy
3 жыл бұрын
Wei only been overthrown 2 years after shu surrender
@Pelagion98
3 жыл бұрын
@@ck-rs2qy Yeah, but in reality the Sima family was in charge for years at this point. Same as Cao family was in charge of the Han long before Xian surrendered.
@sackwhacker
Жыл бұрын
2:59 If anyone addresses me as Imperial Father, my reply will always be "Nonsense!"
@wong2230
11 ай бұрын
lol
@juanindojorgijanad782
Жыл бұрын
Sima Zhao (Cao Wei) accepted Emperor Liu Shan's surrender and the kingdom of Shu Han was annihilated.
@albertlauin1180
4 жыл бұрын
Sometime I think Zhou Yun's sacrifice is useless
@authorabel9341
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.... 😢
@gendoruwo6322
Жыл бұрын
not useless. Zhao Yun remains today an example of bravery. Liu Shan remains today an example of cowardice. this will stay so, ... forever.
@Rinaldimanc
3 ай бұрын
What he did wasn't useless, Zhou Yun will always be revered as a hero, in war times, your efforts are based on your merit and your character, not necessarily the results that transpired. It wasn't his fault that Shu failed, it was Liu Shan, what Zhou Yun achieved was showing everyone the indomitable human spirit and the peerless loyalty a man should be to his lord.
@lifes40123
5 жыл бұрын
zhao yun saved liu shan just for liu shan to surrender
@syv5013
5 жыл бұрын
So...it is real the Way of the Heaven.
@Spherecode.
4 жыл бұрын
Liu Bei should’ve thrown him harder
@gendoruwo6322
Жыл бұрын
it's a long way to get there. it's hard to keep focus on the task, when wealth and comfort come easy, and you can't get enough of good life. before long, you won't even remember even the face of your father, you'll care only about what more can you have to entertain yourself.
as the wei army advanced and took over bases, messengers would go to the emperor and warn them about it, but the shu court was so corrupt that the eunuch in control kept the shu emperor in the dark, until one day the wei army was standing at the gate of the capital..
@jamesmandahl444
Жыл бұрын
The lesser son of a greater father. Tale as old as time.
@xenocdocs341
5 жыл бұрын
Watch this in 2x.
@danielbudiono7232
11 ай бұрын
liu bei main priority is not peace and people, but han dynasty (liu clan) hegemony. if liu bei truly loves peace and people, he will assist cao cao and avoid bloodshed and war
@pensamithketya-4382
6 ай бұрын
sure
@eduardo.d
5 ай бұрын
sure... after cao cao flooded almost every provinces he conquered and massacred han officials for supposed betrayal
@Hell_O7
5 ай бұрын
Didn't Cao Cao already massacred cities in the story by that point of time?
@hiimryan2388
10 күн бұрын
This might be the most delusional nonsense I’ve EVER heard. For example even the savior of cao cao (Chen gong) REFUSED to work with him and preferred execution after realizing how much of a sicko he was
@Happy-gv2mf
6 жыл бұрын
万 is 10 thousand not a million
@MetalHeadRed954
5 ай бұрын
I wonder how would things be if shu went to wu for assistance at least they would have stood some kind of a chance against wei around that time
@RedFeng007
4 жыл бұрын
If his son is the Shu Han emperor instead.
@emovic8
7 жыл бұрын
I cant understand that liu shan just gave up so easily? I mean they couldve asked wu for help. liu bei would never surrender to wei..
@raydenchan
7 жыл бұрын
No. It's actually a bullshit idea because Wu is so far away from them. By the time Wu came, the emperor is already captured. Furthermore, Wu is not an ally.
@EliteTaoist
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert but I think shu is more than capable of defending itself when chengdu alone have 110k troops. chengdu is like the furthest city to wu so I don't think they want to go long distance to help shu defending and I'm pretty sure shu don't want wu to go deep into their territory. What wu can do to help shu is by attacking wei. rayden chan I thought they still in alliance?
@emovic8
7 жыл бұрын
Fisher just like that. Wu could have attacked wei so that wei had to fight 2 sides. But still i think liu shan should not have surrendered to wei. Rip shu
@DesertFox36
7 жыл бұрын
For Shu to come back from that situation, they would have to hold out Deng Ai's siege and out-maneuver Zhong Hui's assault on the other front. It's definitely possible but Liu Shan is incompetent in military strategy and governing, and only wanted to live his life as a wealthy, comfortable landlord. To all the idiots who are praising Liu Shan for surrendering are fucking morons. Even if the result was defeat and he dies in battle, it would have been more honourable than giving up your ancestors' empire and live the rest of your life as a pompous pet under your conquerors. I wonder if Liu Bei's sons all died or he somehow deemed them more retarded than this fucker.
@raydenchan
7 жыл бұрын
Deng Ai attacked the capital from a backdoor (across mountain). There is not sufficient army to defend against such attack. It is also impossible to ask help from Wu because by the time the request reach Wu, Shu has already fallen.
@BoredBricks
Ай бұрын
Zhao Yun saved Liu Shan for nothing.
@vincently6707
6 жыл бұрын
Shu Han Surrendered, Cao Wei Becomes Jin.
@amenbest9641
4 ай бұрын
😂Because sima zhou already plan along to sima yi plan to restore jin dinasty after sima zhou die His son Sima Yan become the first emperor of Jin
@Anthony-hh3dl
6 ай бұрын
臣等正欲死戰,陛下何故先降?
@NapoleonAquila
5 жыл бұрын
i freaking enjoy when sub are messed up after 3 sec of video
@vincently1995
6 жыл бұрын
Liu Shan surrenders to Wei.
@Spherecode.
4 жыл бұрын
Wooaaaahh no shit
@EmperorTikacuti
7 жыл бұрын
The Han Dynasty’s +300 year reign is dead 😞😭🤬 4:05-4:20
@vincently6707
5 жыл бұрын
When is the end of Shu Kingdom.
@vincentlysrandomstuffs8924
5 жыл бұрын
Emperor Liu Shan had surrendered to Wei.
@Spherecode.
4 жыл бұрын
This nigga answering his own question from an alt account
@BobFordman
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh they are obviously a twin or a clone
@drevniysamurai
2 ай бұрын
@@BobFordman clones, and they are great in numbers
@jarrodyuki7081
4 ай бұрын
join the navy and the police!!!!!!!!!!!! 110k a year.
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