Time Markers- 0:00 - Microphone Match UP 1:15 - Mic Design Differences 2:18 - Comparison Setup w/ Rodecaster Pro 3:11 - Sound Comparison 3:51 - SM57 Wind Screen Test 4:30 - Who is This Test For? 5:43 - A Dynamic Duo 6:12 - No Wrong Answers 6:47 - Wind Screens to the Extreme (Pop Test)! 8:41 - Distance Comparison 9:33 - Decide What Works for You 11:12 - More Mic Comparisons!
@alayejon
4 жыл бұрын
OBSERVATION Just before you put the pop filter back on the Shure SM-7B I kinda noticed the almost 3/4 inch hollow gap from side view of the wired mesh in front of the mic which I think further distances the mic user from the actual mic capsule. I'm guessing it helps with the reduction of plosives
@TheStudioFreq
2 жыл бұрын
Happy to bring a little extra traction to this post. The comparison is nice to hear but there are so many differences between those mics that would help someone to consider spending the extra. No mention of dip switches or the hum bucker or off axis rejection or different low end allowed due to the larger body cavity behind the capsule. The SM 7B was born of the sm57 after Shure pretty much wrote a blank check allowing the engineers to create a no limits version. So basically the SM 7B does everything the SM 57 does with greater flexibility EXCEPT you have to have a pretty hefty gain structure to get it to work properly. Very low sensitivity to Background noise as a result which is great but you generally have to purchase something like a cloud lifter for that additional gain boost that most preamps don’t provide. You need at least 60 dB gain minimum to get it to start working properly. I’ve been using the sm57 from time to time for almost 25 years now. The SM7B is great For those who want frequency shaping control on the mic -which the 57 does not have and if they need it to mount for broadcast purposes it does that very well because of the yoke which the 57 does not have. With VERY slight EQ They can be made to sound indistinguishable from each other, but the functionality of why the SM 7B was created is what sets it apart. But don’t forget your gain boost which is going to add to your cost. Are you sure you need that functionality of the SM 7B? If so, go for it. Otherwise, many other mics that can give you killer sound for much less for people doing talking head type work online.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this insight! 🙏
@frankcoffey
3 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Tom Petty and other artists in concert using the SM57 as their main vocal mic without a pop filter and it sounded great. I've had a SM57 in the past but ended up getting the Beta57a for it's increased output and frequency response. Put a cloud lifer or other booster on ether of the 57s and you get great output like a condensor without picking up everything in the room. I'm using a Klark Teknik CT-1 booster (cheaper than cloud lifter) on the Beta57a and the output is fantastic. Let's me run the preamp gain in the sweet spot.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting about the Tom Petty performance- that's super cool! And thanks for the recommendation of the Klark- I haven't heard of it.
@frankcoffey
3 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck If you search KZitem for Tom Petty live you will see him using a SM57 in several of them.
@errorsofmodernism7331
Жыл бұрын
Doors at Hollywood Bowl is SM57
@sung_yun
3 жыл бұрын
By now, I've listened to SM57 and SM7B dozens of times on multiple KZitem videos, and I've listened repeatedly to HUNDREDS of sounds from dozens of different mics of quite a few price ranges. They both sound VERY good. They DO sound different (ALL mics do), but really, based on your goal/objective/taste/preference/bias, either can sound more desirable than the other (listen from (click on) 5:10 / 5:33). It's sort of like Coke vs. Pepsi, if you (already) think that the "BEST" soda SHOULD taste like Coke you will go for Coke over Pepsi (that is, if you already think SM7B is the better/best sounding one, you will reject any other comparable mic as not as good). I think with either mic you'll sound AWESOME! (Idea: go find and gouge out a tiny bit of fine insulation foam and stick it into the tip of Shure A2WS windscreen for better plosives rejection. I like the look of A2WS over A81WS. Lol.) Besides, virtually all listeners won't be able to tell the difference especially between these 2 mics when listening on their smartphone or tablet, especially without headphone. And as for Shure SM57, it's legendary and it doesn't need my take on how great the mic is (the President of the United States can speak to this mic). Thanks for the video, Tom, vey nicely done/presented.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Your Coke/Pepsi analogy is perfect- it really does depend on what you're expecting to hear or what preconceived notions/biases already exist.
@officialWWM
2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to mics, it’s not just all about sound!
@benjhaisch
Жыл бұрын
Love that this came across my feed today. If I could only own two mics for everything, it might be these two. Could easily record every instrument I'd have use for. SM7b actually works really well as a kick drum/bass cab mic too.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, they're an amazingly versatile combo!
@michaelrodnick7223
4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate your content and knowledge, Tom! I get excited each time I see a notification that you dropped a new video. Keep it up!
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! That is incredibly awesome to hear 🙌🏼
@chivatech
4 жыл бұрын
SM57 + Shure A81WS and you are set.
@ChrisPFuchs
3 жыл бұрын
This 100%, the A81WS warms up the SM57 closer to the sound of the SM7b, while also doing a better job than the default A2WS at plosives. Also, the SM7b doesn't have a transformer (hence why it requires so much gain), while the SM57 does, so for those that really want to get the sound closer to the SM7b, doing the transformer mod might be something worth looking into.
@purplepudding9144
3 жыл бұрын
For fuckin what tho. Get specific what are you set for.
@LuckyFlesh
3 жыл бұрын
@@purplepudding9144 Specifically, set for... everything. With filter for vocals and without for instruments/everything else.
@MakeTechPtyLtd
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable content! -Ken
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@MakeTechPtyLtd
4 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck I just did a Rode wireless go unboxing and comparison to a cheap lapel mic and a zoom h4n. You really set the bar pretty high with your video quality. I'll keep practicing and get better. Thanks for your help and inspiration. 😀
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll have to check it out- I love the Wireless Go and the H4N was my first audio recorder 👍
@MakeTechPtyLtd
4 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck yeah your Rode wireless go video helped on that purchase. The H4n is still legit after 8 years or so. Any feed back on my videos would be great. Im just smashing out 6 or so a week and using it as education for myself and growing the Chanel. Goal 100 vids in 100 days. Just started using the Sony a6400 that will go on the Robotic Camera System that we've developed.
@PrestonJensen
4 жыл бұрын
Both sound great! Just got my wind screen for the PodMic. Wow! Can’t believe it can make that much of a difference.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Right?! It's almost like a different mic! I hope you noticed, but the photo you sent it on the wall in the background now.
@PrestonJensen
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Buck Oh I noticed! This is the first thing I look for in every video! I’m honored it’s on the wall!
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks again it really looks great.
@magoostus
4 жыл бұрын
it doesnt even really matter what mic you get to some extent. the issue is that nobody knows how to EQ or use compression
@str8frmthacr8
3 жыл бұрын
YES!! I've had a client run through SEVEN mics in a year. a 55SH, 57, 58, pod mic, re320, re20, and they've finally settled on a 7b...of course. I don't think that has anything to do with everyone using it AT ALL.......However, If I played you her audio post processing, they all sound the same. She was looking for a mic that made her vocals sound "mixed" the moment she hits record. I believe that's what inexperienced people think they need in order to be successful. Lol. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Get what's in your budget and hire someone to mix it for you. It can be someone on fiverr for cripes sake. *face palm*
@AdamKrukowski
3 жыл бұрын
no..
@str8frmthacr8
3 жыл бұрын
@0Jebus0 back when I was doing studio work I had this guy walk in with his own u87, record a song and wanted it on a cd right away. The MOMENT he finished his last vocal take. I asked him if he wanted a quick mix he said and I quote "the guy at guitar center said it sounds mixed right away. Thanks though." 😂 then he calls me a week later saying "I think your studio is messed up, man." I'm like what are you talking about? He says "I've been listening to this and it's really quiet and doesn't sound that great" I just hung up on him. He REALLY thought he could solve his problems by throwing money at it and that his mic would sound mixed...can't make this up.
@purpleheart69420
3 жыл бұрын
@@str8frmthacr8 lmfao
@kingsqueak2221
2 жыл бұрын
I use the Shure windscreen on the SM-57, I set it 3/4" from the element and it works very well, better than the ball on the SM-58 and it has a lower visual profile being narrower and black so I like the way it looks better for fixed position use on camera for speech. My voice is very bass heavy/baritone and this mic of the pile of other mics I own, many much more expensive, has a perfect profile. I wind up having to dump an extreme amount of 63Hz and 120-140Hz on many "studio" mics and the SM-57 takes a lot less correction to level it. It also has a very smooth upper frequency response so it doesn't exaggerate the gravely overtones in my voice either, where many other mics have a presence rise that gets gritty fast on my voice. For the money, vs the SM7b , it's a no brainer for most people.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting, thanks for sharing! I appreciate all the details!
@PhillipBridgesReviews
4 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how close they sound. Nice alternative. 👍🏻
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! The 57 is an awesome mic.
@kingsqueak2221
2 жыл бұрын
With any mic element, take your hand as if you are about to salute, four fingers in a shark fin, space yourself from the element, on center and four fingers away. This is basically what the SM7b "cone" is doing. If you put the SM-57 windscreen on about 3/4" from the mic element and then speak 3" on center from the windscreen, your plosives will almost disappear.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip and easy to understand explanation!
@MichaelW.1980
2 жыл бұрын
I personally would go for the Shure Beta 58A any day. It sounds great and it beats both the SM57 and the SM7B to a pulp, in terms of background noise rejection.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had a chance to use the Beta myself, but it seems like an excellent choice.
@AndyKow
4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison video. Thanks for making and sharing it. Was thinking of the SM57 for a multi use setup between music and voice.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
It's perfect for that.
@mattwruff
4 жыл бұрын
I think I would have liked to see the PodMic against the SM57 or 58. The 57 is a great instrument mic the 58 is geared to vocals. Want to try an Amazing Mic try the Neumann u87 ai Mic ($3,600). I think we agree that if you can afford it buy a Podcaster and a couple of PodMic’s for under $1000 you get a complete system that just amazing for HOW EASY it is to use and the overall very nice Quality it offers. After the audio is compressed to MP3 for the podcast the quality is already compromised. The one thing is everyones voice is deferent so you need to get a mic that works with your voice and the best advise is to try several mics out and then ask your friend which one sounds best. What you think isn’t what matter it what the listener hears is what matter. That what I think..
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s all about what works for each person’s voice. I do have a “$100 Mic Showdown” video that puts the PodMic up against the 57 and the 58. 👍
@DigitalSlang
4 жыл бұрын
Another great video bro! Keep it up! Love my Rode Podmic..all thanks to you and your videos!
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re doing well! The channel is looking great 😎
@DigitalSlang
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Buck appreciate it!
@holmes1978
9 ай бұрын
As soon as typed that you pull out the wind screen excellence
@mcclendonreport
Жыл бұрын
But the question remains, is the difference worth $300? The SM57 is a road warrior of the 1st degree. I will take a page from my audiophile dad's playbook. He use to always remind my brother and I, when compare shopping for gear: "Ok fellas, but does device A sound that many dollars better than device B?" He would go on to conclude, "at some point a human can't hear that well. You must find that threshold and then make your decision." Advantage SM57.
@xaviertx89
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Tom 🙏🏼🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥🔥🔥
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙌
@sassulusmagnus
2 жыл бұрын
Both are great, and they can be set up to sound similar. But if you set each mic up to do what it does best, you will find that they do not sound exactly the same. They have different capsules and those are in different enclosures. Even the same capsule will sound different with a different enclosure.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
The enclosures are definitely different. The shock absorption of the SM7B is pretty mind blowing to me 🤯
@ChroniclesofGhoul
10 ай бұрын
Hey Tom, I rented and tested the SM7B tonight and with the standard windscreen, I found huge plosive issues, irrespective of how far away from my mouth it was or what angle I put the mic. Is this something you’ve experienced or could the rental be defective. If I can’t figure it out, I’ll be getting the RE20. Just curious if you’ve experienced that?
@tombuck
10 ай бұрын
That’s super strange. Even without any windscreen, the metal grill of the 7B should tame a lot of plosives. You never know what a piece of rental gear has been through, but this is definitely a mic that’s well known for its ability to reject plosives.
@dreaminginnoother
3 жыл бұрын
I finally got the sm7 since it was something I had thought about doing for years, and it sounds great, but honestly, it's not significantly better sounding than when I was using my sm57 and sm58. It is fuller and warmer sounding, but I kind of miss the brighter tones of the other ones sometimes. Really, what I still appreciate most is probably its ease of use. There's much less worrying about plosives and movement noise. If sound is your concern, I would happily go back to the sm57 or sm58 and might still for some things. Can't go wrong with any of them.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
I think you're exactly right. The sound quality isn't light years beyond the other Shure mics (all of which are great), but it's definitely an easy mic to work with and just gets out of the way while you do your thing.
@xyzct
Жыл бұрын
Krause has a video on how to EQ the 57 to sound like the 7B.
@crtune
Жыл бұрын
Shure calls their "capsule" in a mic the "motor". It turns out that the SM57, SM58 and SM7B all use some variation of a capsule (motor) called Unidyne 3. This is the third version of a type of dynamic mic capsule invented in the 1950's. This type of capsule has been used in quite a few different Shure mics, but specifics matter - it's not the type of capsule in every Shure mic. I have a SM57 mounted on an arm right next to my PC running into the machine. This is fine for picking up speaking voice, but it will pick up noise and plosives if you don't ISOLATE and provide POP FILTER protection. All that can be done without spending hundreds.
@ClearAdventure
2 жыл бұрын
PRO TIP: When you use the smaller pop filter on the SM 57 you cannot use it all the way down on the mic like you are doing here. There is a tiny screw on the side and you tighten that screw with the pop filter a half to full inch ABOVE the mic. I see here for quick change you had it all the way down on the mic. That gives little to no plosive diffusion. Basically, you had a screw loose. (Ba-dum-chi) 🤘🤣
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
Great point! Even better pun 😁
@xyzct
Жыл бұрын
Dude, great pointer! Thanks!!
@renegadeeats
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom! 👋🏼 I noticed that you set the sliders really high/ towards the top. I usually set them right in the middle with my Røde pod mic. I use Premiere Pro to edit my videos and I usually use the “Stereo” file in my videos because it seems to sound louder/ better than the “mic 1 file” I guess my question is, am I doing it wrong? Haha Maybe a video on how you edit the audio for your videos? You’re awesome! 😎🤘🏻
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on how loud you speak and what gain levels you use. The lower you can keep the sliders, the cleaner the sound will probably be. I've been experimenting with a Cloudlifter lately, and will probably have a video about that soon. It definitely helps.
@ben-benedict
3 жыл бұрын
Any thought about the « humm » sometimes picked up by the sm57. I got one with a81ws pop filter . It sounds amazing but has some hmm . It disappear if I handled the mic or if I put my hand on the audio interface .
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I’m wondering if it’s the mic or your cable?
@Sairamark
3 жыл бұрын
pretty good for SM57, can you make comparsion with beta 58A?
@xAudiolith
7 ай бұрын
6:12 the difference here is crazy. I love my 57 but your voice sounds ten times better on the sm7b. The 57 sounds pretty cheap and jarring in such a straight up comparison. Personally I would either shell out for the 7b or get something cheaper more suited for the task than the 57.
@aztecazul
3 жыл бұрын
What are those colored cable clips that are on the end of your XLR cables? And where can I get them?
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
They're the "Rode XLR-ID" clips and they're great. They also match the colors of the Rodecaster Pro's channels perfectly.
@PaulElijas
2 жыл бұрын
I think even thought the SM57 is legendary (and I’m probably going to pick up one at one point), I won’t be satisfied before getting the SM7B. That’s just how my brain works, can’t help lol
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I get it 100%. If that's the case, it's definitely worth saving/waiting for the thing you really want.
@nunoandradebluesdrive
3 жыл бұрын
Sm57 or 58 is all you need for podcast spoken.. Sm7b is close enough, the difference is justified if you are going to sing in studio. After recording and mixing maybe whos gonna know?
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I really love the 57 with the big giant pop filter they make for it.
@carloisidoresalcedo6325
2 жыл бұрын
The 7b doesnt tire your ear too much because of the high mid scoop.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
It's a great mic for spoken word.
@emanuel_soundtrack
2 жыл бұрын
1:00 this is nice! the fact that a michrophon records everything that is in front of it makes it very democratic
@Touseef
4 жыл бұрын
u knw its tom when even the video title has a pun in it :D
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
I was particularly proud of this one 😁
@kege
4 жыл бұрын
I picked that up too! Love how it was so subtle that it sounded natural even without noticing the pun, but once you saw it... 👀
@Touseef
4 жыл бұрын
@@kege yeah Tom is pretty good at doing this, I myself do more of sarcasm like chandler :P
@FR8Productions
Жыл бұрын
im wanting to get 2 dynamic mics for my Video cast, and 1 condenser mic. I really am limited on budget and do have a Rodecaster pro 2. I do video voice over for my video content movies and online inspirational stuff. I want both. What do you suggest between the SM57 and Rode podmic ,, and what affordable condesor mic? Thank you!
@diamondstudiosorocaba
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for video my friend, how nome of this acessory of SM57 (buff filter) please?
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
The small windscreen is the Shure Aw2s 👍
@TylerBeanHead
2 жыл бұрын
How would I EQ the SM57 on Go XLR's software?
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had specifics, but I haven’t used the GoXLR myself so I can’t speak to it. Maybe someone else here will know?
@CaptRadar101
4 жыл бұрын
You should try the SM-57 with the Shure A81WS Gray Large Foam Windscreen for SM81 and SM57, Black
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
I just got one and it’s terrific!
@priyonjoni
3 жыл бұрын
That larger windscreen on the SM7B is one size short of Bernie's mittens.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
I think his mittens would make excellent wind screens 🧤
@han1218
Жыл бұрын
Even with the filter, the sm57 has more plosives than the sm7b. It's not just the windscreen but it's also the metal casing around the capsule. Not sure if that's worth the price difference though...
@Undefined9
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, no, they sound incredibly similar and virtualy no plosives from the SM57 when a good windscreen is on it; get your ears checked.
@kobinsadvance
4 жыл бұрын
Make a comparison video on Sennheiser e945 vs Shure SM57.
@lassenope5594
Жыл бұрын
The sound is 100% similar. Sm7b is just rly good looking and also the xlr port isnt at the back, which is rly good for gaming or daily use, if you use a boom arm. Other than that you shouldnt buy sm7b. Consider mv7x, really good mic.
@DakDario
Жыл бұрын
SM57
@desmondmiles1066
2 жыл бұрын
Save money and buy sm57 + cloud lifter for budget.
@Bobbyblades
2 жыл бұрын
rip the transformer out of the sm57 and you will be closer to the sm7 sound, but caution do not turn on phantom!!!
@jakethegamer1028
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair sm57 is more for instruments
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. The lack of a built in windscreen isn't great for spoken word, but once you add one it can be a great vocal mic!
@jakethegamer1028
2 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck true but it is fantastic for recording Instruments I use one to rec brass solos
@holmes1978
9 ай бұрын
Great humour
@ulfrinn8783
3 жыл бұрын
IMO, get that low profile rubber shock mount for the SM57, the windscreen designed to fit it, and you have a setup that looks as good on camera as any other studio dynamic. I don't understand why the podcasting and streaming/content creation community looks down on microphones because they can be held in the hand.
@xyzct
Жыл бұрын
Because ... you know ... tattoos and man-buns ...
@waynemiller6070
2 жыл бұрын
I tried to justify spending the money. In fact I bought a sm7B yesterday. But when I added a vocal track using that mic and compared it side-by-side with $100 PV mic that was already recorded, I literally could not tell any difference. I brought my sister in and had her listen as I A/B’d them. She couldn’t believe there were two different mics. They sounded exactly the same to her. Edit: I cannot justify the money. I’m returning the 7B today.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
Always helpful to get an outside opinion! Glad you found what works best for you.
@matrixate
3 жыл бұрын
They both sound almost identical but people don't know how to EQ. The SM57 is the Swiss Army knife of microphones...EVERYONE should have one. It's like...a necessity. I'll never sell that mic. I can live without the SM7B. I'd rather just get a Cloudlifter CL-Z and make my SM57 sound better than the SM7B.
@michalbochenski4329
2 жыл бұрын
or you can get a dbx 286s and have a lot more stuff for the same price as the cloudlifter.
@CosmicApe
2 жыл бұрын
How does an in-line preamp help make the SM57 sound better than the SM7B? I'm getting my first microphone to primarily sound better in most of my applications. Sure, the SM7B sounds good, but a $400 microphone is wasted on me. While listening to the video and reading comments, I couldn't personally tell the difference between the two.
@AudioHaze
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly for me if you can buy an after market pop filter and snap it on the SM57 its good as golden, no need to blow the cash :)
@MrKarlGP
3 жыл бұрын
...and you could always side chain an upper harmonic synthesizer in post these days for a little "air" if you want :)
@stevef
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, thanks so much for doing this review. We are starting our podcast and I actually found an SM57 in a box. It was used for instrument recording and I didn't know that the windscreen and settings on the RODE could bridge the gap while I save up and also this can be deployed for a guest.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
That’s perfect! It’ll definitely hold you over.
@vardhanmahajan7135
4 жыл бұрын
I never knew the Shure SM57 existed. Thanks, great video! Edit - honestly I don't hear much difference. But I don't have a trained ear so I didn't expect much, but just asking, how different are they, to your trained ears? also, just a suggestion you should compare the Podmic to the Shure SM57, I think a lot of people(including me) will find that very helpful.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a “$100 mic comparison” video that includes both of those, so it should be helpful. I don’t know that I have a trained ear, but I like them both. Personally, I use the PodMic because that’s what I find to be most natural for my voice.
@vardhanmahajan7135
4 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck great, thank you! I will have a look at that video! I don't know how I missed that! :(
@Gr0llig3r
4 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck and thats why i bought mine. IT'S YOUR FAULT 🤔🤣🤣
@juap
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, Shure SM57 its the industry standart of microphones, they are on all major studios on the world, they are absolutely awesome to record guitar amps, drums, acustic instruments. if you want to record on your home you must have one of this, the best thing, its that they are so damn cheap. This things rarerly occur in life, being so good and cheap.
@vardhanmahajan7135
3 жыл бұрын
@@juap yea dude! I will look into it, thanks :)
@ittotaq
4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping we could hear an a81ws windscreen comparison to the sm7b regular popfilter
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have that windscreen, but I’d love to get one.
@camilospataro664
4 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck This would be a great video to do! No one in youtube has donde that review and I know for sure a ton of people (me included) are interested in seeing that., coupled with a A2WS vs A81WS. I bought a sm57 with the A2WS after seeing some reviews and I was left wondering if I should have bought the A81WS. Youre reviews are pretty awesome and usefull, so you should try to do this review when you have the chance! Thanks for the great reviews!
@nunoandradebluesdrive
4 жыл бұрын
No real difference here. 57 sounds really nice and good enough for podcasting and even recording vocals in a band record on the sm7b realm.
@nmonye01
2 жыл бұрын
As a listener I can't distinguish the two. As a performer the SM7b has an amazing bass response...my lower voice loves it then I see the price...ouch...it's worth it...both great mic s. Great video.
@CosmicApe
2 жыл бұрын
I can't really hear the difference between them either.
@TH-lo8mq
Жыл бұрын
SM57 has slightly more high-end. They are extremely close otherwise.
@gabrielchavarria22
4 жыл бұрын
If I got an SM7B, I would EQ it to sound like the SM57.
@johnngatho6520
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...so you'll make a $399 mic sound like a $99 one.... nice one.
@Brando-_-440
3 жыл бұрын
Right, it’s about an understanding of EQ. The 57 is enough with tweaking. $300 saved.
@Brando-_-440
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, and a hair tie with some foam makes a damn good wind screen
@purplepudding9144
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnngatho6520 do your homework. Worth doesnt affect sound
@gabrielchavarria22
3 жыл бұрын
@@marles139 Nonsense. I own an SM7B and I still prefer the SM57. Nice try tho. #ProudSimp
@SantoValentino
3 жыл бұрын
I really like your videos. Great lighting, great editing and great sound. And you’re not boring. I watch too much KZitem so I’m kind of an expert on skipping boring channels.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That's high praise!
@FutureVegan
5 ай бұрын
Hi Tom. That was a great comparison video! I've been watching many videos where people compare Shure mics and I still have some questions about them. I'm looking for a mic solution to reduce the echo in my studio. Currently I'm using a zoom h5 with the zoom ssh6 capsule. From what I've seen and read it seems that perhaps the SM58 might be the best option to reduce echo, noise and reverb. I already got 2 fetheads thinking I would buy the SM7B, but now I don't know what to do. If you watch my last video you'll see how the sound currently is (and it is a treated small studio room with 10 sound panels). My room size is 420 x 310 x 260 cm and I've got 10 acoustic panels (100 x 50 x 5 cm). These are the options I'm considering: *1 - SM7b + Fethead + Zoom h5* *2 - SM58 + Fethead + Zoom h5* *3 - SM57 + pop filter + Fethead + Zoom h5* It seems like the SM57 and SM58 are esentially the same mic, but I still don't know which option would be best for my setup. Any help / feedback would be much appretiated. Thanks!
@charliejg
4 жыл бұрын
The SM57 and 58 are workhorses. I was using them back in the late 70s early 80s in my band to mic instruments and for vocals. We also used an EV PL-76 for the lead vocals. But, though it had a nice pattern, it was battery powered which could be a pain.
@ZTTowell
Жыл бұрын
I have an old EV PL77 and it can be battery or phantom powered. Maybe the 76 can too?
@charliejg
Жыл бұрын
@@ZTTowell Not sure, I don't think we had the capability to do phantom power with our equipment at the time. Or, didn't have the know how! LOL!
@STARSTATUSCHRIS
3 жыл бұрын
The Shure SM7B has a little more intimate presence (to my ears) but I don't know if that's worth the extra 300 price tag, So I'll go with the SM57.
@PawFromTheBroons
4 жыл бұрын
From prior tests I’ve seen, quite surprisingly, if you use the bigger alternative gray foam for the SM57 (Shure A81WS) it brings it closer to the SM7B.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned that windscreen too, and it seems like it would really bring them closer together.
@carlosgulotta
Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@celebril
2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be a surprise that there is a lot of similarity. The SM7b was designed around the SM57 cartridge, with a bit more low end. You really should mention the gain needed a bit more, as well. The board your using is capable of driving it but a lot of lower end boards just don't have the gain needed. Personally, for someone starting out, you're better off getting a better preamp and go with a SM57, than not having something that could make best use of the SM7b.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I think that's really good advice. It's tough to go wrong with the 57.
@HiFiASMR
2 жыл бұрын
the windscreen doesnt just dampen the brightness on the sm57. you can hear a noticeable tonality coloration same as what happens on sm58 due to its headbasket.
@adamm2571
3 жыл бұрын
I wanted a good, cheap dynamic for stream because my condenser was picking up external noise. SO happy with the sm57, and the fact that it's $400 cheaper and sounds similar to the 7b makes it all the sweeter! Thanks!
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
The 57 is so good! I recently got the AWS81 windscreen for it, and I swear you really can't tell the difference from the SM7B.
@wilsonvn
3 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck will you make a comparison video with this windscreen?
@najiahgriffiths4216
Жыл бұрын
you mean $300 cheaper? the sm7b is $399
@adamm2571
Жыл бұрын
@@najiahgriffiths4216 In CAD, it's a $400 difference.
@Godzillah
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if multiple mics would work in a recording environment like one close to u and one distance away and both record vocals that would capture your voice better. Well like milking an instrument I would milk my voice if that make any sense.
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
I think this is actually a semi-common technique to create certain "vibes" and bring the feel of a space into a recording. The fun part with things like this is that there's so much room for experimentation!
@uKoalele
3 жыл бұрын
Very clear and nice Video. Thank you!
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the kind words 🙏
@JashimJalal
4 жыл бұрын
I want that male sex hotline voice the Shure SM7B gives. Very similar quality and separately there's no way to tell them apart, but compared next to e.o the SM7B is marginally better with better plosives and a lot better in the looks dept. Great comparison Tom!
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad it was helpful!
@emanuel_soundtrack
2 жыл бұрын
yes, this is my voice criteria hahah but eq and comp do the service alone with the 57
@nicolasjohnson2971
3 жыл бұрын
I came across this video looking for “sm57” and “Rhode caster pro” comparisons. I own two “sm57’s” originally for my home studio but have used them for podcast interviews and they work great! A couple of “tidbits” on the humble sm57: it has been used on every presidential inauguration/speech since 1977. Also uses the same capsule as the 7b, it’s just placed further back. So one could get the same sound by just boosting the low end in post.
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
It's a great mic and it's use in presidential speeches is realyl fascinating (I just didn't want to bring up the president we had at the time this video was made😉 )
@ThisIsTBChannel
3 жыл бұрын
If I have a Cloudlifter, should I use it with the Rodecaster pro? Using a Condenser setting for my Shure SM7B w/ Rodecaster Pro (letting myself to have the levels to 32). Or should I do like you, with Dynamic settings (levels at 40) . Thank you so much!
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying the Cloudlifter with the Rodecaster, so I'd recommend using it if you have it. And I do recommend the dynamic settings since those are dynamic mics. I don't know how much of a difference it really makes, but I like it.
@ThisIsTBChannel
3 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck Thank you so much!!
@johneem
Жыл бұрын
57 all day long
@thegodnasr
Жыл бұрын
Will the SM57 work on a Podcast with more than one guest as far as noise rejection?
@tombuck
Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Especially if the mics are positions at about a 45 degree angle so their pickup patterns don’t overlap.
@thegodnasr
Жыл бұрын
@@tombuck ok thanks man! New subscriber! Love your content and puns🤣
@holmes1978
9 ай бұрын
Am57 Elvis Presley sang out of that Mic in 1972 enough said ! ❤❤❤
@tombuck
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the kind words!
@francoallione6766
2 жыл бұрын
sm57 me parece mejor
@MichaelWilliams-lo3ix
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@TelugutoenglishDictionary
4 жыл бұрын
Will the heavy sm7b fit well on the short mic stand used in this video ? I am worried it will fall ?
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, the mic stands are super sturdy.
@ClintsGrievances
8 ай бұрын
I had both these mics and directly compared them by recording a single sentence spoken into both mics at the same time in a multi-track recording. I wanted to see if the price of the SM7b was justified... I now own an se electronic v7.
@pretor706
4 жыл бұрын
If I'm using headphones, yes I can tell the difference (paying attention). But in all honesty during driving, or whatever... Does it really matter? At least for podcasting.
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think the 57 really does sound terrific.
@self4autism333
2 жыл бұрын
The sm57 was better because thats the one i allready have....
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
You really can't go wrong with the 57. It's an outstanding microphone.
@disass
5 ай бұрын
so much more clarity in the high end on the sm57
@EzioTravel
4 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant
@muziky2k
2 жыл бұрын
Obviously, looks matter to modern content creators. I get that. But, no content creator needs a microphone that costs more than $100. Heck, the President of the United States of America uses the SM57. For the life of me, I don't get the infactuation with the SM7B. Ok, I lied. The SM7B is very sexy. LMAO
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I was honestly not that into the SM7B until I got one of my own and then I literally laughed out loud to myself after connecting it and hearing how good it sounded. Plus the built in shock absorption is second to none 👍
@muziky2k
2 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck Just keeping it real, you sound better to me on the SM57. It's the clarity for me.
@RenaldoQuestelles
4 жыл бұрын
The Samson Q2U and the Shure SM58 is a perfect pair too. I did a comparison video on them. 4 Samson Q2U for $240 USD
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
That's true! Samson makes really great affordable mics.
@RenaldoQuestelles
4 жыл бұрын
Tom Buck I’m considering starting a go fund me to get a RodeCaster pro. 🤣 I’ll be the first in my country with one 😈
@marvean2519
6 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I honestly believe you'll be totally fine with either one of these mics, SM58,75,7B. They all sound very similar, especially after EQ.
@Jamespendle
3 жыл бұрын
Came for the mics, stayed for the room visuals
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! 😁
@gregaluise5727
2 жыл бұрын
For the price difference the SM-7b does not justify it's more than $300 increase (for the application of podcasting). Not to mention the extra $90-$150 you'll have to spend on either a FETHead or CloudLifter in order to provide enough preamp gain (unless you have a higher end preamp with +60db of quiet/clean gain). The SM57 in this comparison as well sounds like like it better isolates your voice in the room as well. The SM-7b has an extended lower frequency response, but that lower frequency response also sounds to be coupled with a little bit of low-end resonance or ringing. This seems especially apparent to me when you do speak plosives as they plosives seem to "ring" a bit somewhere between 50-60hz where the 57 seems to not suffer that issue.
@CosmicApe
2 жыл бұрын
I started reading the comments during the video and so couldn't tell what microphone he was talking on at any given time. Personally, I thought they sounded basically the exact same to my ears.
@gregaluise5727
2 жыл бұрын
@@CosmicApe I guess Shure's Unidyne III based designs have a lot of similarities. I've played with EQ'ing in some low end "resonance" via a HI-Q parametric band in around the 60-90hz region and feel like I've been "close" (maybe the same neighborhood but not the same house :-)) I do like an SM57 for use on podcasting talent. Especially in the event they are in an untreated room. A 57 in somewhat close proximity 3-6" coupled with some nice EQ, downward expansion, and maybe a little compression and you can get pretty close to a "broadcast studio sound." Even when the room has hard wood floors :-)
@timsmusic7349
Жыл бұрын
Definitely heard that low ring on the 7B also. Absolutely no one could ever hear less quality from a 57 or 58. I’ve done audio all my life and I have no idea what the 7B crazy hype is other than you look like more of an influencer on KZitem. Can’t beat the old 58. Same price for over 40 years. That’s cool enough for me.
@Organplayer1947
3 жыл бұрын
END APPLICATION....end application......ah..did I say 'end application'???
@officialWWM
2 жыл бұрын
Er $400 is not an expensive microphone! I have mics that cost $4000!
@MarioBertram1992
3 жыл бұрын
The SM57 sounds better! ;)
@tombuck
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a great sounding mic.
@rangersmith4652
8 ай бұрын
I suspect most recording engineers would find four SM57s (or 58s) far more day-to-day useful than a single SM7B. I honestly wonder how many video creators use an SM7B simply because people will see it and recognize it and think, oh wow this person is for real because there's an SM7B on his desk. After all, the vast majority of people listening are using playback equipment that cannot reproduce the difference, and such creators ought to know that.
@urbnctrl
2 жыл бұрын
For point of reference to those not familiar. The presidents speeches to the nation are done on the SM57.
@Tomijee
Жыл бұрын
Great video but, Im waiting that moment when streaming trend dies little and all those SM7B drop in Reverb. There is no real reason to buy SM7B if just stream or random podcasts, only if you are wealthy then expensive toys are great. People buy all kinds of shit just because "I like it" mentality, heck even for professionals SM7B is "okay" and just iconic but today we have so many great mics. SM57 just wins this by far if we actually think about it. Throw some pop filter like a2ws and FetHead for 60 bucks, dont throw 200+ bucks for cloudlifter.
@ulfrinn8783
3 жыл бұрын
My honest opinion? You should be arrested for that cell phone vs microphone football game joke.
@FacultadDeSonido
2 жыл бұрын
Those bad jokes always make me hit the like button. Great Content.
@tombuck
2 жыл бұрын
I love it. Thank you Jaime! I just had someone tell me the jokes are why they don’t watch my videos 😁
@FacultadDeSonido
2 жыл бұрын
@@tombuck they are missing out!
@brap17x
Ай бұрын
Really not that big of a difference. Has that distinctive Shure sound out of both of them
@JashimJalal
4 жыл бұрын
Loving your comparison videos. I'm currently in the process of purchasing a mic and I cant wait to watch this!!
@JashimJalal
4 жыл бұрын
...as I'm watching this 😅
@tombuck
4 жыл бұрын
Haha glad they’re helpful. Hopefully you find the one that’s right for you 👍
@dmitriyobidin6049
4 ай бұрын
SM57 good enough for presidents. I think that's all we have to know.
@hndembuon
Жыл бұрын
SM57 is my favorite, and another way to avoid p sound is just putting the mic a delta like 45 degree to your mouth.
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