I have a 2001 set up similarly to yours. I got mine for free from a Simplex tech. I currently have a 4001, 2001, two 4010s, and a 4004. I plan to get a 4005, 4002, and 2350 master time panel. The Simplex tech I know has a 4020 he programmed for me and is going to send me. That one will need me to repair the power supply. I made a demo video of the 2001 on my channel. I added a march time card after the fact as well and I got it going with the jumpers. My dual signal card is in slot 8 like yours along with the march time card in slot 7. what I can't figure out is when the panel is not in alarm, the march time card slow pulses the signals. I know the march time card does its "heart beat" pulse of the green LED normally, but I can't figure out how to make it stop slow pulsing the signal circuits. I cut the diode on the main control card. Do you know what I need to cut on the signal card? The diagram said some jumpers but I don't really see any jumpers on my dual signal card. My panel also has an annunciator trouble that I don't know how to get rid of. I posted about the march time wiring on the fire panel forums. Hope you can get your 4005 going. These 4005s had a recall on the early model power supply boards due to them failing. Later ones are better. The power distribution board is a common failure when something in the power supply goes or if lightning damaged. Hopefully your CPU board is good. I'm working on a 4005 power distribution board and 4005 power supply for another KZitemr. His 4005 power distribution board needs a new connector and the power supply works but has a ground fault. He already got replacements so I'm just fixing these old ones for spare parts. Good luck with your 2001 project! The 2001 is such a rare panel and I'm so happy I own one. These older Simplex panels are great. Simplex was such a great company back in the day when they were owned by the Watkins family and still known as Simplex Time Recorder before Tyco bought them out, made the best time and fire alarm products from their Gardner and Westminster plants in MA. I've done a lot of electronics repair ever since I was a young teen. I'm 20 now. I'm glad I got into electronics and repairing vintage electronics and antique radios, as fire alarms are of course part of that interest and my broader interest in anything electrical or electromechanical. Especially these older Simplex panels. Even the time clock stuff. I should eventually be getting a 2350 where I will have a couple of clocks set up.
@officialsimplexguy
2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see that 4020 of yours. Thats my next bucket list panel. Been rummaging through a local abandoned hospital which has a few in there somewhere. Either that or some old 4100s. As for your 2001, you need to cut 2 resistors on the dual signal card. Those being 15-16 and 29-30. That should solve your problem. I had that same issue when I wired the march time card on mine. I did get it working but i cant seem to solder to save my own life so its back to a steady system. My 2 bay 2001 (not seen) I've been building from scratch has an issue with the motherboard that I cant seem to figure out. I bought a second one with the jumpers on it so if it works, ill put the march time card in that one. I did manage to fix the 4005. The CPU was damaged unfortunately which really surprised me because it was in mint condition. So in the end I had to replace all 3 of the main components on it to get it going. The I/O cards still work thankfully. I'll have a small demo of it next month.
@docbrownsradiolab1220
2 жыл бұрын
@@officialsimplexguy Thank you! It's definitely a bucket list panel of mine as well. Abandoned buildings are cool. I've seen a video the other day of an abandoned mall that had a 4005. I may possibly also get a 4100 of sorts with a voice bay. I plan to make a video on repairing the 4020 power supply assembly. Probably just a bad capacitor or something simple as it simply didn't come back online after a power failure, which is why it was replaced and the tech saved it and programmed it for me. Thank you!! Those two resistors being cut got it to behave normally. Only thing is it now doesn't slow pulse at all when ACKed, not sure how to make it do it but it's no big deal as the march time works correctly now. Only thing is mine still has an annunciator trouble on it. I should do a video on soldering. It's honestly very easy once you get in the flow of it but it can be a bit of a challenge at first for most people. In high school I showed up to the soldering lessons in my automotive class and brought my old trusty Weller iron to help teach the students. The most important thing when soldering is to have an iron with a clean well maintained tip on it. If the tip is black or corroded, solder won't stick to it and you won't have a fun time soldering anything. The tip needs to be bright and shiny, clean and "tinned" with solder. This helps preserve the tip from oxidation due to high temperatures as well as allow the solder to flow correctly into the joint you are soldering due to thermal transfer. Once your iron is good to go, then make sure you have a good quality solder. I prefer lead solder, as lead free stuff is just horrible to work with and doesn't make the experience any better as it requires higher melting points than leaded solder. You just wash your hands good after handling the leaded solder. If you use rosin core solder, then flux paste isn't always needed as it's built into the solder, but sometimes old joints could use some flux to encourage the solder to flow. Another thing I like to do is if I'm heating up a joint that hasn't been soldered to in decades (such as on a 2001 board) I like to flow some fresh solder onto the joint first, that makes it easier to melt and work with. In the case of a 2001 where you are simply soldering to "virgin" pads on the board (as in they are bare holes and have never been soldered to before) then solder should flow easily into the holes. Make sure the jumper is clean and apply the tip of the iron against the pad and allow the heat to flow into the wire. Then add your solder to the pad and give it a second or so to flow. Then remove the heat and allow it to cool and check to make sure it took. A big mistake I've seen people do is they attempt to solder by simply globbing solder over things, such as wires. The best way is to get everything hot and then gently let the solder melt into the joint. With wires or component leads, you want a mechanical connection before you solder. Just be sure to not leave the heat on a board for too long, the traces can lift if the board is overheated. I hope that helps a bit! :) I may also get a two bay 2001. When I got my 2001 it had a bad 24V voltage regulator on the board so nothing had power. I had to replace the regulator and all is good. I hope you can get your board working. I'd start by checking to make sure the correct voltages are present and look for any physical damage to any components. I'm glad you got your 4005 going! I've seen this a lot with 4005s. They tend to get hit by a surge and it travels through every component, taking them out. Power supply, through distribution board, to CPU. Sometimes takes out the I/O cards. Components can be internally shorted even if they don't look physically damaged. 4005 power supplies don't have very good surge/transient protection, so I'd encourage anyone with a 4005 nowadays to run it on a surge protector, either switched or in-line.
@officialsimplexguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@docbrownsradiolab1220 appreciate the tips on soldering. I should probably invest in better tools first as the 8 dollar Chinese kit is probably giving me half of my problems. Gonna have to practice with a better one with some higher quality solder and see if that works out. As for the annunciator trouble, there may have been some jumpers cut on the zone cards that have enabled annunciator supervision. I believe there are more jumpers you can cut to reverse this I just have to find the right documentation for that. The 2 bay 2001 had some bad components I attempted to replace myself. The issue its having now is only the main control card seems to get power, everything else is dead. If the new board works out, I may try to troubleshoot the old board and maybe you can point me in the right direction since its doing what yours did.
@vintagefirealarmguy5285
2 жыл бұрын
Ooh a 4002
@FireRescue80
2 жыл бұрын
Love the spoilers.
@FireRescue80
2 жыл бұрын
Please join our discord: discord.gg/Yn75s72S
@HarlanE1995
2 жыл бұрын
Nice dude I haven’t seen a 4002 in a long time
@vintagesimplexfirealarmsof6440
2 жыл бұрын
that's some jamning there
@Chathamrailfan
2 жыл бұрын
how much was it?
@officialsimplexguy
2 жыл бұрын
That, the 4001 and 2001 all came together for 475
@Chathamrailfan
2 жыл бұрын
@@officialsimplexguy dam that's a deal!
@officialsimplexguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chathamrailfan more like a steal. Thats the going rate for just 4001s on the low end nowadays. The other 2 panels go for near or above 1k now.
@Chathamrailfan
2 жыл бұрын
@@officialsimplexguy I got a 4004 for $213 and the mother bord was broken so now I need a new cpu
@officialsimplexguy
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chathamrailfan ive seen a few new cpu boards for under 100 lately. Keep your eye out, hopefully a cheap one will show up
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