Dear THG, I've watched you from your beginning on YT. I think you're so smart and can convey education so well. Could you have ever imagined how much money you would make just by teaching people history? Not many history degree holders can do that! This has turned into quite the serious business. Congratulations. You earned it!
@dmacrolens
Жыл бұрын
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
You act like he doesn't have weeks to research a topic... please stop brown nosing for likes.
@guytansbariva2295
Жыл бұрын
@@Marin3r101 No, he means Lance is a natural teacher. Many teachers and college professors are dull, bland and boring, no matter the subject matter. Lance is the exact opposite.
@drsch
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't teach. He lectures on short stories/topics. What he does is very different from teaching in an official capacity. He's very good at what he does, and he writes interesting papers that he reads here. But it's not teaching.
@stuartriefe1740
Жыл бұрын
Good morning fellow students, time for us to take our seats and quiet down!
@frankgulla2335
Жыл бұрын
Dear history Guy, thank you for such an informative and heartfelt tale of a naval disaster, oddly an early German naval incident. Well told and well illustrated with photos and illustrations.
@KR4FTW3RK
Жыл бұрын
A lot of difficult german names to pronounce. I think you did pretty good.
@debbieellett9093
Жыл бұрын
This was awesome! I had never heard about this before. I'm very glad I found your channel. Thank you for providing amazing history.👏👏👏
@stacymcmahon453
Жыл бұрын
Couple notes. First, Frederick William was called "The Great Elector" because his hereditary title included the privilege of casting a vote for the Holy Roman Emperor, as the "Elector of Brandenburg" in a process roughly analogous to electing a new Pope. There were something like seven other electors among the German nobility. Second, "Preussen" translates as "Prussia," not "Prussian." The plural "Prussian" would be "Preussisch" in modern German. Thanks for this video! It's unusual to have such a detailed treatment of the Prussian navy prior to World War I. You typically only hear brief mentions in the context of the equally obscure (to western readers) Danish or Swedish navies. It's interesting that, despite its small size, the German navy suffered as much as any other from the rapidly evolving technology of the time. Even the British with their outsized shipbuilding industry had a hard time in that era getting ships from drawing board to squadron without either redesigning them a dozen times in the process or putting ships into service that were obsolete from day one. The same issues contributed mightily to the annihilation of the Russian fleet at Tsushima.
@thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970
Жыл бұрын
The other major factor leading to Russian defeat at Tsushima being the Kamchatka...
@michaelplunkett8059
Жыл бұрын
@@thatsnotoneofmeatsmanyuses1970 And a shortage of binoculars?
@ralach
Жыл бұрын
Not directly related to this disaster but you mentioned the second schleswig war; one of the danish warships, that saw service in that conflict, still exists..the steam frigate "Jylland" (afaik, the last remaining original steam frigate)..she's on exhibit in the small city of Ebeltoft (located on the Jylland peninsula, which the ship was named for).
@gyrene_asea4133
Жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool to know. Has Drachnifel been alerted to this ship? Might be a fun episode as it is just on the edge of his era of interests and doesn't require a 17000 mile trip to the antipodes to view! If I am in Northern Europe I will find a way to visit as I'm sure the engineering is wild.
@davidlogansr8007
Жыл бұрын
Good Morning! As soon as I saw the “History Guy” notification I clicked but was still third! I enjoy maritime yarns immensely, certainly from my having grown up in Baltimore and seeing thousands of vessels of all types in my childhood. Thank You Lance Geiger, you truly are The History Guy, and rank, imho up there with Dr. Mark Felton and Drachinifel, lofty company indeed! Perhaps the story of the cargo submarine Deutschland? Thank You!
@gyrene_asea4133
Жыл бұрын
One can't help but have a fondness for the "Port Cities" of the world. I am sad when I remember all the ships at anchor in Philly and San Francisco in the 60's and 70's, ships that are seen no more. Consolation can be delivered by channels like THG and Drach.
@cbroz7492
Жыл бұрын
...now I understand the Kurfurstendamm in Berlin..aka the 'Ku'damm'
@RetiredSailor60
Жыл бұрын
Good sunny morning from Ft Worth TX to everyone watching....Beware of hurricane season on the east coast...Stay safe...
@RAnthis
Жыл бұрын
Hempstead Texas here
@tomlindsay4629
Жыл бұрын
Odd coincidence that I'm fiddling around with a 1/700 scale kit of this ship.
@backwashjoe7864
Жыл бұрын
Pre or post collision?
@tomlindsay4629
Жыл бұрын
@@backwashjoe7864 , it will be pre...if I finish, so many tiny parts, and a three-masted rig!😯
@emilyr3451
Жыл бұрын
@@backwashjoe7864😂
@RAnthis
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another fantastic video with amazing insight. You truly are a master narrator of history. Sharing such tragedies reminds us of how fragile life can be and how quickly even the mightiest of warships can disappear in a virtual blink of an eye. I'm glad you're there to guide us through the history, as you say, that deserves to be remembered. Cheers
The Kaiser took out the Elector. This is about as close to funny as a maritime disaster can get.
@reallyseriously7020
10 ай бұрын
Again I am educated by the History Guy. I've never heard the term 'stern castle'. Now I realise why ships have a 'fore castle'. One for both ends.
@Guangrui
Жыл бұрын
Bismarck: fine, just fine, you know what? For heaven's sake, I never wanted the damn ironclad in the first place anyway
@constipatedinsincity4424
Жыл бұрын
Hey History Guy ,👋🤓 do you by any chance have any outfits like 🤔 royal garb or Revolutionary regalia. Or any pictures of you decked out ? I know that I would like to see. 👀 And if I know my highly intelligent and striking fellow classmates they would find great pleasure 😊 and appreciation for that image!
@-jeff-
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sea story whose course took the wrong turn.
@kpdvw
Жыл бұрын
Navigation 101;.....never turn into the path of a closely following ship....!
@bendean4255
Жыл бұрын
Must have been a lot of people that couldn’t swim and no life jackets!
@105381000
Жыл бұрын
It is ironic that the next ramming disaster was the British loss of the HMS Victoria in 1893, by the HMS Camperdown, during a naval maneuvering exercise, in the Mediterranean.
@thomasrengel5577
Жыл бұрын
A new one! I was going to complain about your [deliberately?] atrocious German, but then heard your French was equally bad. Great presentation! In Memoriam I will go play Toll, Toll the Brave, about the Royal George disaster of 1780.
@constipatedinsincity4424
Жыл бұрын
Back in the Saddle Again Naturally, !
@frednone
Жыл бұрын
I thought she had 12 water tight compartments? You'd think they could have gotten some of them closed?
@ValerieprimcessAmanda
Жыл бұрын
Thank you History Guy, for your efforts in your videos. I appreciate you
@beerdrinker6452
Жыл бұрын
Third comment. Love your videos.
@SRW_
Жыл бұрын
Mr history guy can you do a video on the der grosse passenger ship first laid down in 1896?
@victormiranda9163
Жыл бұрын
first time I read "Grosser Kurfurst," it translated in my head to "Fat Kurtis"
@britcom1
Жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the history of The Conch Republic.
@rebsredone450
Жыл бұрын
A credible attempt at German pronunciation. Well done!
@domsphotography
Жыл бұрын
I live in Folkestone and have often walked past the memorial.
@CAMacKenzie
Жыл бұрын
The problem with the ram as a ship's weapon was that the ships closest to the bearer of the ram, and thus those most likely to be rammed, were the ships of the same fleet. This was bad enough in 1878, when gunnery ranges were still relatively short, but developments were occurring so rapidly that by 1890, when HMS Victoria was commissioned, Victoria's guns could, in theory at least, reach out 7 miles. Not much, compared to guns of the First World War, much less the Second, but long enough that battle ramming was becoming increasingly unlikely. Nevertheless, new battleships were still being built with the ram, and thus Victoria suffered a fate remarkably similar to Großer Kurfürst in June 1893, sinking rapidly after being rammed by HMS Camperdown.
@richardmourdock2719
Жыл бұрын
The irony of the British government's sympathy for the German accident is easily understood when it is remembered that Queen Victoria's first language was German.
@lesleyb5591
Жыл бұрын
And Queen Victoria's daughter Vicky was the Crown Princess of Germany.
@TinMan0555
Жыл бұрын
And, another great lesson is “in the can”. Thank you for your good work.
@janlindtner305
Жыл бұрын
👍
@davincisghost9228
Жыл бұрын
Hey Lance...lovely stuff. I hope your cat is well. ♥
@lesleedetchon
Жыл бұрын
I love history and I’m learning so much . Thank you so much for your channel
@ntvypr4820
Жыл бұрын
There had long been friendly/warm relations between Great Britain and the Germanic States. Perhaps you forgot to mention that at the time most of the British Royal Family was of German descent. Queen Victoria had married a Prussian prince of House Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, her female princess children, some married into Germanic royal houses. Kaiser Wilhelm, German/Prussian royalty at outbreak of WWI was one of Victoria's grandchildren. All that made the German declaration of war on the British nation all the more incongruous. It had long been royal thinking that intermarrying across the nations one from another was a prime good way to forestall poor or bad relations from becoming so bad as to allow themselves to deteriorate into complete war. After German bombing of London during The Great War strong anti-German sentiment led to King George V to change the royal name in 1917 to "Windsor" from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Great video! I like all your vids as I am a great lover of all forms of history.
@neilbuckley1613
Жыл бұрын
It didn't help that the German bombers that sropped bombs on London were Gotha aircraft.
@jeffwalther3935
Жыл бұрын
I just realized, thanx to THG, that it is understandable now that the submarine emerged, as "Germany" developed into a nation-state, as quite uniquely, their distinctive and singularly-used naval ways and means of sea warfare. In comparison to all other maritime powers, surface fleets, battles, ships and strategy, as opposing probable other nations' surface fleets in high number, with all the other nations' far logistical, technological and experiential superiority of supplies/ports/crew COULD have been completely neutralized by the Germans with submarines if things had been otherwise different. Not only was practical, high seas fleet operation of the U-Boat exclusively German ONLY because the Kriegsmarine could never realistically hope to challenge and defeat the RNAV conventially, but most other navies too otherwise. That's why U-Boats were so singularly, and ultimately infamously, relied upon by the Germans in the 2 world wars. The first, effective, submarine-launched torpedo was ALSO the first practical use of independently-guided (seaborne antiship) missiles. THESE two technological breakthroughs were thus BIG gamechangers at the turn of the 20th century; determined what and how what happened - and didn't happen.
@jeffbangkok
Жыл бұрын
Saved this for breakfast in Bangkok. Another excellent bit of history I didn't know.
@davidrichie9570
Жыл бұрын
It’s “koor-foorst.” I’ll admit, much harder to pronounce is La Gloire - better to just call it by it’s English name - Glory.
@TheRiverPirate13
Жыл бұрын
When anyone brings up "Ironclad" ships I immediately think of the US Civil War. I keep forgetting that sea going Ironclads were in use in European waters. What I am curious about is where American Ironclads packing more powerful cannons than their European counterparts? I know we had the rifled cannons which spelled the end of stone forts.
@sten1939
Жыл бұрын
Great as usual
@robkunkel8833
Жыл бұрын
(The) Kaiser Wilhelm caused a great, unnecessary disaster. Yes, Kaiser Wilhelm. Should have been seen as an omen of the world that would come from this name, 25 years later.
@DwayneSims-j5j
10 ай бұрын
I can only imagine seeing that in person onshore, or other vessels; to go down in five minutes with such a large compliment must have been heart-wrenching for those who bore witness. Tragedies like this goes on, unfortunately. Great doc, THC
@karlbrundage7472
Жыл бұрын
This episode is poignant, considering that the Communist Chinese are currently looting the graves of sailors lost in the Second World War.
@tomh6183
Жыл бұрын
Thank you again Lance for another wonderful lesson.
@briannicholas2757
Жыл бұрын
Ive often heard it said the Prussia wasn't a nation with an army but rather an army with its own nation. Their naval developement and the end of the German empire is a fascinating story.
@keithbusick6859
Жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed your channel and you never disappoint keep up 👆 the good work
@harryshriver6223
Жыл бұрын
An excellent insight into the history and development of the German Navy. It seems the groundwork was being laid for the eventual war to end all wars.❤My condolences for the lost sailors and officers and kudos to the British Navy for their valiant rescue efforts to assist.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
Жыл бұрын
Actually, not in this period- it would be hard to compare the 1867 plan to the High Seas Fleet. The naval arms race to come would be spurred by the work of Alfred Thayer Mahan and the launch of HMS Dreadnaught.
@harryshriver6223
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Thank you for the clarification, I am still a novice at some aspects of European history.
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
1899 is what year you want to start looking at then look into 1910s thats when you see these crazy naval arms races really pick up.
@Invading-Specious
Жыл бұрын
German prince entitled to take part in the election of the Holy Roman Emperor.
@jrgordon47
Жыл бұрын
They were, at that time, close Cousins of course...
@tomasinacovell4293
Жыл бұрын
They must have all been caught below decks as the weather was too calm to have that many lost so easily?
@BA-gn3qb
Жыл бұрын
SMS Wilhelm was then renamed: Spearfish.
@chocolatefrenzieya
Жыл бұрын
The Gross Kurfurst, The Grosser Kurfurst and The Most Gross Kurfurst.
@RealTylerBell
Жыл бұрын
i wish i had some extra money to give you for amazing work and videos you do
@josephmatthewclift1985
Жыл бұрын
Late to party, but still curious to ask: wasn't the first ironclad ship battle actually between the CSS Virginia and USS Monitor? 5:23
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
Жыл бұрын
The Battle of Lissa is generally considered to be the first major sea battle between ironclad warships. The difference is that these were ocean-going ironclads, whereas Monitor and Virginia, and the other battles between ironclads during the US Civil War, were not ocean-going, but littoral vessels.
@NoahSpurrier
Жыл бұрын
Germany never quite got the hang of a Navy.
@OhioDan
Жыл бұрын
Their U-boats managed to do a number on British shipping for quite some time, though.
@NoahSpurrier
Жыл бұрын
@@OhioDan Yes, but serving on a German U-boat meant one had a 70% chance of dying. After a while Germany ran out of U-boats and experienced crew to operate them. It wasn’t a sustainable naval strategy.
@cowboywoodard2569
3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, boy I like to meet you one day
@quillmaurer6563
Жыл бұрын
Interesting how the ram was the culprit - I recall there were several friendly sinkings of naval vessels in this manner. My understanding is that for a period of time ironclad ship armor could survive hits from the most powerful guns of the time, so ironclads were not capable of sinking each other - as was seen in the famous battle of USS Monitor vs. CSS Virginia ending in stalemate with neither ship capable of critically damaging the other. Thus, until guns caught up, it was thought the only way to sink ironclads was to ram them. However, unlike guns or most other weapons that could be fired or not, a ram is always present and "armed," will damage any ship they hit whether intentionally or accidentally. Thus they probably in the end sank more friendly ships than enemies. Even as guns increased in power, rams were retained for a period of time until it was concluded they posed more threat to friendly ships than enemies, and thus were removed.
@anthonyjackson280
Жыл бұрын
Ramming was also seen as viable due to the increasing speed of steamships vs the incredibly slow reloading of the guns of that period. Breechloading was still some years in the future. Reloading the muzzle loading rifles and then retraining them could take several minutes. It was commonly believed that at the range of engagements at the time a ship could close for a ram attack before reloading was finished.
@quillmaurer6563
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyjackson280 Interesting - good point. Re-loading required pulling the gun back in and manual muzzle-loading. I suppose a ram bow could be seen as the ship version of a bayonet on a musket, or some early flintlock pistols that had clubs incorporated into the stock - fire once then resort to hand-to-hand combat as reloading would take too long.
@anthonyjackson280
Жыл бұрын
@@quillmaurer6563 Good simile. On the ships with turret mounted muzzle loaders the guns were reloaded from outside the turret. The turret would rotate fore or aft (depending on position) to line up with casement guarded openings in the deck, the guns would be depressed into loading channels (almost reverse torpedo tubes) and the powder and shells would be rammed hydraulically. Then the guns would be re-trained on target.
@quillmaurer6563
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyjackson280 Interesting - makes sense, an advantage of turrets over the traditional broadside. But still relatively slow and cumbersome compared with breech-loaders. Actually come to think of it I believe some modern tanks, especially those with mechanical reloaders, have the gun go to a reloading position, but they can re-train much more rapidly, this whole process taking seconds instead of minutes. I've seen videos of such tanks, immediately after firing the gun automatically goes to the maximum-elevation position.
@honodle7219
Жыл бұрын
May they rest in peace.
@kiwiprouddavids724
Жыл бұрын
You really should be doing a history series on Netflix or something like that, I'd almost put your presenting on par with David Atimbra . I'd love to see what you and a team could do with more resources and time sort of thing......there's just so many great peaces of history you bring up ,I don't know how you would chose subjects and how you'd make them all tie into each other, maybe do like a civil war timeline but with all the kind forgotten history and weard history combined into it....😅 anyway have a great day 👍 and just wishing you some good karma
@chaseschneier1076
Жыл бұрын
Straighten your glasses....
@1bert719
Жыл бұрын
HMS Warrior and her sister Black Prince had there gundecks contained in an armoured box known as "the citadel" to prevent taking from now or stern. This term is used to this day in the Royal navy in reference to that part of a warship designed to withstand NBC warfare.
@Svartalf14
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for telling us the meaning of Kurfürst, I never knew what the Berlin Kurfürstendam was about.
@russwoodward8251
Жыл бұрын
A great story in history. Thank you.
@kimhohlmayer7018
Жыл бұрын
Learning becomes fun in your capable hands. Now, how about seeing what you can find on whether certain groups within the American Army used bow and arrow and cross bow to lie in wait for the Viet Cong to shoot them silently as they marched by. A guy came into the local antique shop and began telling me about his brother serving in Vietnam and wrote home asking them to ship him his hunting bow and arrows and described what I cited above. This was the first I heard such a thing and I grew up during the Vietnam War.
@MarshOakDojoTimPruitt
Жыл бұрын
thanks
@dmikulec
Жыл бұрын
The ram bow worked! Hurrah!!!!
@steveshoemaker6347
Жыл бұрын
A sad day....Thanks Mr THG🎀
@backwashjoe7864
Жыл бұрын
That's incredible that a ship could be lost in this manner. It makes me want to learn about the details of the signaling procedures and the experience levels of the crew, pilots, and captains, that surely contributed to the accident.
@TheOfficial007
Жыл бұрын
Im curious what state the wreck is in. Being that a boiler blew does not breed much hope of anything. Also at the initial point of the wreck they probably made it a burial site.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel wow right under the hour with this link. Makes feel bad for not looking it up myself. Thank you so much for your content. I have seen it be an inspiration to so many.
@bigsarge2085
Жыл бұрын
✌️✌️
@chazmclean6014
Жыл бұрын
What...no pirates?
@BasicDrumming
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate you, thank you for making content.
@merlinwizard1000
Жыл бұрын
43rd, 31 May 2023
@RailfanDownunder
Жыл бұрын
Superb work Sir
@markcolyer1989
Жыл бұрын
Well done Sir
@marchellochiovelli7259
Жыл бұрын
Very nice engravings with this presentation.
@davidfurst2807
Жыл бұрын
Furst is the correct pronunciation
@davidfurst2807
Жыл бұрын
Fue rst
@jamesfracasse8178
Жыл бұрын
What does S.M.S stand for? 4:57
@Ar_Tank
Ай бұрын
Seiner Majestät Schiff, means "his majesty's ship"
@jkilby27able
Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@jamesomalley4556
Жыл бұрын
It's a great ship in World of Warships ! Lol
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
Жыл бұрын
Is that the 1913 WWI Konig class Battleship? I didn't think the game went back to ships from the 1870s.
@jamesomalley4556
Жыл бұрын
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel Lol who new.
@nicolletiti
Жыл бұрын
Hi Roxanne, I am so jealous you got that Ipsy bundle .. I ordered it they sent me a notification that it was shipped but the tracking number they sent me never became valid... so I messaged Ipsy and they refunded me immediately saying they can't send one now... bummer but I am so happy you got it.... Congratulations to your winner and I am sorry I missed this live
@ronriesinger7755
Жыл бұрын
The term “British Channel” is an alternative to “English Channel”. There is another site called by the same name: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Channel?wprov=sfti1. Great video, as always.
@bytesback.
Жыл бұрын
Being Engish I have never heard the English channel being referred to as the British channel.
@ronriesinger7755
Жыл бұрын
@@bytesback. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Channel?wprov=sfti1. The video refers to it twice as such.
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