"People ask me, "what's that song about," and I say, "well, if I could've said it in other words than are in the song, I'd've written a different song, wouldn't I?" -Elvis Costello
@Barf-Barfolomew
Ай бұрын
Acolyte Tuesday!!!
@tacobowler
Ай бұрын
I like the idea of surrendering lightsabers when leaving being voluntary but common, because I think it adds to Dooku’s character that he didn’t, and to the hubris of the Jedi that they still were so dismissive of his fall when he hadn’t followed that tradition.
@jamesmanclark6178
Ай бұрын
Jaws, Rocky and Star Wars were my major entry points (The Big Three) in film as a 10, 11,12 year old.
@mrvoltar
Ай бұрын
Acolyte and the Dooku stuff in Tales have really been pushing this sort of tragedy of the sincerity of the sith. I don't think I really took Palpatine's 1st sith pitch to Anakin at the Opera as his core beliefs but now it looks like he started with his understanding of the truth, "All those who gain power are afraid to lose it," but gave up and took the quick and easy path of manipulation with Padme's death. Dooku similarly now seems like he really believed Qui Gon would've agreed with him and his manipulative spilling of the beans has a hint of, "This is the craziness I'm mixed up with," and a bit of a cry for help.
@gustavoolivieri6568
Ай бұрын
Shouldn't the saber be disassembled, when handed over? 🤔 Or should it be kept there until the person dies? 🤔🤔
@noHOPEof
Ай бұрын
*-* 8min mark (meme worth locating) *"The Mayor in Jaws2 is the s a m e person."* *"PLEASE look deeper into your local elections."* ◇ ~ ( worded quite similarly )
@TheNamekianClown
Ай бұрын
To the Padme question, I'd also say it could be a scandal for her because of him being a Jedi in the sense that they are viewed by the masses as a hardcore religious group. I think the way it could be viewed sort of feels like if it was found out that a US senator secretly got married to a Hindu monk sworn to celibacy. Not only would a lot of people question it as her seducing someone religious that has sworn to no attachments, but that her political stances would then be constantly scrutinized as favoring the Jedi for personal gain.
@gustavoolivieri6568
Ай бұрын
Wait! What?? 😱 Ken never saw Jaws?? 😮😮😮
@KenNapzok
Ай бұрын
I've seen enough to know I'm good on sharks attacking people. Too real for this lil' kid growing up a mile from the beach!!!
@gsarngad
Ай бұрын
I'm not sure I've ever sat down and watched it all the way through either. I know I've seen lots of parts of it on TV over the years. And I have a dim memory of seeing one of the sequels that takes place at an underwater habitat of some kind with like glass tube walkways between the sections on TV at a friend's house.
@gustavoolivieri6568
Ай бұрын
@@KenNapzok It wasn't a critique. 😉 There are classics I haven't seen myself either... It was just a spontaneous reaction.
@dawgfanjim
Ай бұрын
What town Ken? I'm in Shoreline but I'm guessing Edmonds?
@gsarngad
Ай бұрын
Is it Fourth of Julys (Julies? Julyes?) or Fourths of July?
@JSeed47
Ай бұрын
I've always disliked PTI just because of the feeling i always had that it was just 2 sports insiders arguing. Then the 'news' and other lesser types of 24 hour arguments channels always had panels and groups arguing.
@Igor_the_Mad
Ай бұрын
Hey Force Center, loved the episode, but I have an honest question that might come off as a bit difficult. I've noticed that you all are spending a lot of time each episode lately discussing the state of the media pundit and marketing worlds, and I wonder how it is you all deal with the tension of being "part of the problem" so to speak. You all are very responsible, but isn't discussing this sort of stuff at all just adding fuel to the fire? Neither of you really like that writers and directors are making these comments and news, but then still discuss it. As well, when it comes to marketing, it feels like a little bit of a self created issue when we as deep fans devour every ad and trailer we can find to then complain about moments being spoiled. Marketing isn't really for deep core fans like us, it's for the average consumer who doesn't know there is a Star War on this month. I hope this question came off respectfully, much love for the positivity you always spread. ❤
@KenNapzok
Ай бұрын
It's a great question. And I absolutely took your intentions as fair and respectful. I speak for myself here, but the tension is a hard line to walk and it can be difficult to find the right balance. A while ago we stopped covering Star Wars news regularly. Just didn't have much to say about it anymore. But that affected our numbers. So we decided to get back to covering it but we wanted to spin out the coverage into more in-depth conversations and discuss what was going on beyond the headlines. Does it always work out? Maybe. Maybe not. But it was our way of at least trying to add something more to the news cycle. My problem isn't so much a creator sitting down for an interview. It isn't just the existence of marketing. It's the fandom cycle behind it. I've been covering Star Wars since 2012. Hyperfocused on from 2014 to now. And The Cycle has worn me down a bit. My joy for the shows and stories is still there, but the weekly war over it is an ever-present downer. ForceCenter tries to stay in our corner, do what we feel we do best, and try to succeed within those parameters. I personally have mixed feelings and some regrets for being part of shows in years past that helped create the problem. Shouting Movie Dude Bros, turning movie discussions into verbal combat sports, and peddling reductive, surface-level readings of Star Wars as insights. All of it helped lead many fandoms to this frustrating point. Again, speaking for myself, what you're picking up in my words is often the desire to move forward in a deeper way while knowing we still have to swim in the same waters that brought us here. We love doing this. It's a business. We're far from done. But the same cycles repeating can wear you down. Thanks for watching.
@Igor_the_Mad
Ай бұрын
Thank you for the reasoned and well said response!@@KenNapzok
@ForceCenter
Ай бұрын
Agree with everything Ken said. I will add for myself that when it comes to the trailer side of promotion, I just have a criticism of some of the promotion choices. Particularly with The Acolyte. I agree the trailers are there for the average consumer (and for in-depth fans to generate more social media buzz by dissecting and discussing them.) The average consumer doesn't need shots like Indara's lightsaber on the ground, images from the 7th episode of an 8 episode season, etc. For me, those shots have a spoiler impact on in-depth fans but don't particularly add anything for average consumers. It's an entirely subjective thing and I'm sure other in-depth fans would disagree with me and that's fine. In the big picture, it's a minor complaint but when I have a criticism that's affecting my attitude or outlook, I want to be honest about it. Thanks for watching and asking! -Joseph
@Igor_the_Mad
Ай бұрын
Like I said to Ken, thanks for the reasoned answers. It's great that you both are willing to be upfront about stuff like this with the community and practice what you preach with trying to analyze oneself and the situation. I do certainly agree overall that some trailers are just outright spoilery, and it's a fine line that people will have different opinions on.@@ForceCenter
@joannascheer5835
Ай бұрын
Yeah, ki ade giving Anakin Relationship's tips, having multiple wifes on his own, that wouldn't end good 😂
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