Love this 👌when I done my time I was always told you never stop learning....thanks Robin👍
@philliplewis4212
6 ай бұрын
I don't like mdf at all wood is best in my eyes, I have just done some skirting board for a customer and they chose mdf square edge with an little grove running down it around 25mm from the top I know what Rodin is on about when it comes to the internal corners and how to make them look nice , now I put the floors in this building and built the stud walls so I knew everything was spot on, so I just mitered the internal corners no worries .keep up the great videos!!!!
@Tl-rk3et
6 ай бұрын
Ideal I’ll use that next time I’m on price
@MrStormas
6 ай бұрын
😂
@franciceroberts4573
6 ай бұрын
A standard but joint is much more likely to open up over time. I’m a carpenter of 20 years but still learn stuff from your videos. Keep up the good work pal 👍
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@pauldavies7251
6 ай бұрын
This will still crack the paint if it moves just like a butt joint or a traditional scribe on moulded skirtings, I love the channel but this is just silly, Im a 46yr old chippy by the way whos used to working with oak etc in million pound homes
@FiscalWoofer
3 ай бұрын
Robin you are fortunate to have clients that either notice this and/or who will pay for it. I only work like this if client appreciates it. But the last skirting was solid oak so we took our time on that - no caulk , no paint just limed and wax oil
@justicecase19
6 ай бұрын
Good carpentry is all about the extra little bits and bobs that alot of people are to lazy to do, or dont know. Thanks Robin.
@karlkjj
6 ай бұрын
A scribe is still a butt joint it’s not about being lazy it’s about being cost efficient….. I’m a joiner of 41 years working in high end houses its pointless
@cjmallett1
6 ай бұрын
It's also finding customers prepared to pay the extra when most sell the house within a couple of years
@tomasmorrissey7324
6 ай бұрын
And what's the benefits of doing it this way please tell me only takes longer ,a scribe is a butt joint and is the proper way to do curved stuff so why not straight
@thomasnn
6 ай бұрын
Using the miter saw fence as a saw horse for the hand saw 🪚🪚
@crystalwaveable
4 ай бұрын
This is the difference with a craftsman like Robin. I'd have just butted them up against each other, caulked and painted and it would still look the same. I wouldn't have the same inner glow of satisfaction but I would have more time to watch fantastic Robin videos 😀
@sixpotshot
6 ай бұрын
Houses that look like boxes, detail-less carpentry as boring as a Sunday morning, ,skirting as flat as a punctured tyre .... and that skirting tip that sums it all up... Nothing of this is my cuppa but nevertheless I keep loving your content. Thank you.
@samsonacc8081
6 ай бұрын
I quite like the simplicity of it all, can't stand that tacky style. Even sprayed it doesnt look right cos no PD will waste his time sanding and flattening it all down as it takes too much time. And the dust😶🌫️. I will never understand why we must have acropolis in our homes, it looks terrible. Perhaps to mask up very low quality standard and drive the price up? Coving, molded skirting, doors with molded curved shaker, nevel posts and spindles that came out of colosseum, molded architrave, and if you are really unlucky you get a fireplace too - with 10 000 edges on it. Bloody gypsies. Nice clean design is where it's at, and with high end finish it will look million pounds too.
@RedRupert64
6 ай бұрын
It depends on the age of the house. Perhaps I'd prefer to see a medium 45 chamfer on that skirting.
@wrightwoodwork
6 ай бұрын
Im personally not too sure about the detail. It looks good where it houses in . Its just from the top i dont like the view. I have in the past done a cheaqued mitre at the top about 15mm deep then a butt down below
@JurassicJungle
6 ай бұрын
I am just about to start skirting on my build with this skirting so perfect timing again for me. Thank you so much. I hope it is as easy as you make it look. I will record and share my own experience
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
You can do it! pop me a pic on Instagram!!
@lewisbrotherscarpentry
6 ай бұрын
Fool the haters I do the same on this stuff. I make a jig and do one pass on a router if I have lots to do 👌 it’s the little things like this that show you care
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Nice one Josh!! true!!!
@MrBaconis
6 ай бұрын
I dovetail all my mdf butt joint skirting.
@muddyrich2008
6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@markdyballuk
6 ай бұрын
my main work is painting. painting pictures not walls. i'd just like to say your thorough professionalism helps me with my practice and making art again (after a while of doing some diy on our house we bought 18 months ago) your manner in doing things has rubbed off on me. your method of taking your time really helps in these times where everybody seems to be rushing around is a great help to my practice and making a frame today i couldn't help thinking about how you work and i appreciate your efforts so much. Thank you Robin. I hold you and your working practice in the greatest respect.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Thank you Mark
@awreetmeowd
6 ай бұрын
The piece you notch out just becomes a butt joint up against the shorter piece. Any movement will show just the same.
@chrismacleod9326
5 ай бұрын
Technically yes it does however because it’s recessed in it will allow for any discrepancy in movement. Mind you, if it’s well glued and fixed it shouldn’t move regardless of whether it’s cut this way or just left to butt it up normally. I’m not wowed by this technique and would question its necessity however I do believe it’s a superior method.
@chriskehoe3180
6 ай бұрын
If you are earning extremely good money on your jobs you can take as long as you want, but for the mass majority time is money and you have to shift to earn it.
@dermotkelly6946
6 ай бұрын
I don’t even mitre the external corners , any chance of the start Robin ? , respect to you Robin you do what you think is right 👍
@hansmikkelsen
6 ай бұрын
A nice detail for no skirting boards is to have double sill plates and have the wallboard about 7-9 cm above finish floor and rip floorboards down to the same height you have the wallboards hanging above the floor , then fit them in like skirting boards so its flush with the wall, no dust collecting on top and looks really nice
@paulmetcalfe3721
6 ай бұрын
Aiming for exactly flush is problematic with this technique (bottom plates and studs often don’t perfectly align). You also may want to use a finish drywall edging material (vinyl or aluminum). If your floor is wonky, all that skirting then needs to be scribed perfectly. I love the look and I did it on my house but it increases the work load significantly.
@todc8986
6 ай бұрын
Very clever tip, it will keep the skirting from twisting. Keep up the good work!
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Yes it is a really good way for both the runs to stay nice and tight and not twist
@pauldavies7251
6 ай бұрын
If your 100mm mdf skirtings twist youve got big issues
@todc8986
6 ай бұрын
Maybe not so much as twist but it does expand and contract. Personally I don't like MDF It damages easily. But this is a great tip either way. So if the 100mm skirting twists there are more important problems to deal with. RC & Ed keep up the good work!
@RedRupert64
6 ай бұрын
It's a bit gappy along the bottom where it meets the tiles old chap. Give your tiler a slap. We usually use tile skirting on tiled floors.
@LH-wn1wt
6 ай бұрын
Yes very good Robin, now what about getting some of those lovely hinge jigs made up. I'm still waiting for an email to say they're back in stock. Keep up the good work!
@pauldavies7251
6 ай бұрын
Buy a trend skeleton jig, 100times better & way more robust, Or if your a chippy make a jig in 10minutes like the rest of us
@robertbamford8266
6 ай бұрын
Well, I like the look of the joint. And the only time difference is the chisel time - assuming you scribe the “first” board into the corner. Were you working on the finished floor (no carpeting to add)? If so would you have used shoe moulding or caulk along the bottom of the baseboard?
@gmafh1315
6 ай бұрын
In the olden days they used to cut a mitre & notch internally when it was the plain stuff, the thickness of the skirt down from the top. Used to see it a lot on school jobs. Used to do it on the posh jobs when time wasnt an issue.takes 3times aslong and pretty pointless like this tip is tbf 😅
@joecartwright8631
6 ай бұрын
Really do make mountains out of molehills
@cbkipper
6 ай бұрын
You need to get out more, why create a possible problem when there is none.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
What sort of problem am I creating? many years ago it was traditional to house or tongue square or flat mouldings such as skirting that turned a corner, I appreciate that was before grab adhesives and mitre glue and some of the old techniques are being well and truly forgotten and standard is not important to a lot of people these days
@MK-yo4jn
6 ай бұрын
Lovely job. Thanks for sharing Robin. Can see from the comments it's become a devisive topic, you can't win them all 😂
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
So true!
@williamsmall2710
3 ай бұрын
Why can’t you just put a stepped mitre like what was always done just a thought
@philgrant83
6 ай бұрын
Great tip Robin, I'll definitely be using that technique from now on thank you. Keep.up the great work!
@stuartday1876
6 ай бұрын
Flat skirting, aka The Dust Gatherer!
@gbwildlifeuk8269
6 ай бұрын
All skirting gathers dust! As does any horizontal surface.
@Doug....
6 ай бұрын
Lovely neat joint Robin. One question-- who on earth has nice sharp chisels like yours 😁
@stuartday1876
6 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same, you could have a shave with that chisel🤣
@Doug....
6 ай бұрын
@@stuartday1876 Yes indeed you could 😀
@BillyMustang101
6 ай бұрын
Me!
@tomasmorrissey7324
6 ай бұрын
Wish I could get my chisels this sharp
@BillyMustang101
6 ай бұрын
@@tomasmorrissey7324 japanese water stones!
@chrishawksworth4002
6 ай бұрын
Day rate
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
All my work is on a price
@0000kris0000
6 ай бұрын
I don’t like the look of the joint on the top of the skirting though, and it will be seen when it moves and cracks the paint. A lot of time for not much reward.
@teversoncoleman496
6 ай бұрын
Sorry have to disagree with you on this I think it looks horrible especially looking down at the top of it because you have two joint lines instead of one.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Once it is painted you will see no joints
@beecee985
6 ай бұрын
Until it moves
@andyrice859
6 ай бұрын
Come on, mate! That's just mental.
@jonylevitt90
6 ай бұрын
I get what your doing but I think the butt joint follows the front line of the skirting much better . This way created a line that's set back and would probably stand out
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Once its properly decorated the joint is invisible
@cannontrodder
6 ай бұрын
Honestly when you said “but I personally do something for this” I thought, well of course you do Robin, I’ve come to expect it from you! What a lovely finishing touch!
@eddiebrockbank6517
6 ай бұрын
And when it's painted you won't see a thing, dear God what a waste of time.
@PaulSmith-pr7pv
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Robin
@8bitsim
6 ай бұрын
I think you might see the joint showing through the paintwork when looking down on it and I don't think it would look right, personally I prefer a mitre joint.
@muddyrich2008
6 ай бұрын
Who mitres internals 🤷♂️
@Skeletoncrew46and2
6 ай бұрын
Proper carpentry Robin. Kids today don't understand proper carpentry. Unfortunately as you have spoken about before the quality of trades in todays building trade is shocking. Lovely to see a real trades man at work. One question, how the hell do you still have any kneed caps left, i see you never wear need pad in trouser😂!!!!!
@paulknights1764
6 ай бұрын
Nice way of doing it , on a private job perhaps 🤔.. other than that just butt it with some pva in case of shrinkage…
@petepiper7383
6 ай бұрын
Why not set up your trim router? Could have done 4 in the time it took to saw out one
@NAFO_Badger_Brigade
6 ай бұрын
Cos I still can't afford a router!
@petepiper7383
6 ай бұрын
@@NAFO_Badger_Brigade OH LOOK ITS A TROLL grow up mate or even better expire quietly in a dark corner - you are now blocked and forgotten about
@dragonfitter
6 ай бұрын
I have fitted miles of skirting over the years but never once done square skirting 😂
@tomasmorrissey7324
6 ай бұрын
Just out of curiosity whats the benifet of doing it this wayb
@user-xz3iv6tw2i
6 ай бұрын
A video for youtube.
@MrHabba12
6 ай бұрын
Over kill 😂😂😂
@SteveHit1
6 ай бұрын
Very neat, top quality, result. Nice to see hand tools used!
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@grahamedwards5551
6 ай бұрын
Over egg the pudding for content
@jonfenwick6200
6 ай бұрын
Another bit of magic, in years to come someone will be pulling off the then, old boards, and saying "look at this, the guy who did this was a proper carpenter!"... i say that myself a bit from time to time. Even today, an old kitchen rip out and loads of fancy joints and almost unnecessary carpentry, but i like that. It shows the guy who made it really put his soul into it.
@Dale-11
6 ай бұрын
Surprised he didn't use a biscuit Cutter too...
@oskarsmillers
6 ай бұрын
and what about outside corners? same way or 45 degree?🤔
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
I did show that at the beginning
@oskarsmillers
6 ай бұрын
ohh yes , you did . my bad🤦♂️
@gcara9918
Ай бұрын
on sq stuff a little biscuit does the trick
@m2dat791
6 ай бұрын
Do you not scrib into unlevel tile
@craigbarry1340
6 ай бұрын
Would you clamp an off cut on and run the router over it set to 6mm with a guide bearing?
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
You could indeed, just super dusty
@samposton9101
6 ай бұрын
Nice detail Robin
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Cheers Sam
@BoabMarley
6 ай бұрын
Top quality finish but unfortunately on a lot of sites you would probably be let go for wasting time. Quantity not quality with most companies these day's
@RichieRich845
6 ай бұрын
👍
@DeclanKeenan2035
6 ай бұрын
Not a very nice looking joint looking down and also complete overkill
@Oli_Hudson
6 ай бұрын
It's all about the detail!!
@craigwilliams6734
6 ай бұрын
Don’t hate me Robin, but I hate MDF! It is so “crap”, honestly…my house has got MDF skirting boards that have been routed with a groove & it is so rough in the groove, I’m thinking why would anyone use it? The architraves aren’t too clever either…conventional softwood is absolutely perfect for this kind of woodwork. Also, I’m surprised that experienced chippy’s use it in the first place! Unbelievable
@davidfarnall3211
6 ай бұрын
Rough finish in the routed areas is almost certainly down to the decoration. When we fit raw MDF trim we prime, flat off, prime again, flat off, then fit. Zinsser Coverstain as primer is solvent based, so doesn't "raise the grain" like a WB would, two hour re coat time, so no great issue in delay of job, and you get a glass like finish where the raw surfaces are indistinguishable from the flat surfaces. Doing this level of prep before fitting is as easy as pie and super fast. I can't comment on who fitted your skirting, or who painted it, but if it's rough I'd guess it was a bish bash bosh team, paid low and need the volume to make money, rather than do a job properly. Also, modern softwood is often total 💩. Full of knots, shakes, warps and terrible to work with from a seasoning point of view. MDF has issues, but it also has advantages if treated properly.
@TheKerb17
6 ай бұрын
I'll give it a go tomorrow 👍
@JonDunnmusician
6 ай бұрын
Robin, please ignore the naysayers. Their jealousy is greener than the grass. By the way, I have shifted to using PVC for much of my base & trim. It is absolutely a delight- of course waterproof, & as the regional manufacturering rep for Versatex points out: if they don't love x y and z , tell them they never have to paint for the rest of their life!
@grey8559
6 ай бұрын
Its still just a butt joint but takes 5 times longer nice idea just not prctical for site work when your still getting same result but nice work tho
@alextheman422
6 ай бұрын
He’s lost the plot😂😂😂
@brianbostock1698
6 ай бұрын
Have you seen the property Robin has , from losing the plot
@alextheman422
6 ай бұрын
@@brianbostock1698not doubting his credentials at all … this is not a useful tip for any up and coming carpenters .. or anyone for that matter .
@nathanmiller5209
6 ай бұрын
my ocd would make me mitre that internal corner lol
@ramiebay1685
6 ай бұрын
Great tip! I cant believe I never thought of it
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@joevaldivia6733
6 ай бұрын
That makes no sense
@frankmatibs8076
6 ай бұрын
Remember he his explaining how he does it so it will appear to take a while but on his own he will do this in less time than you think and it eliminates a fixing in that corner which saves time I always domino all mitres and at the junction where the skirting meets the architrave Robins work is second to none it can’t be faulted
@JL-rx6hl
6 ай бұрын
those spuds on the table need planting...
@watchthisspace688
6 ай бұрын
What a waste of time 😅😂this looks exactly the same as a butt joint but takes 5x longer.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
It holds both sides true and tight something a butt joint will not, its just good joinery practice, when I served my time in the late 1980's we where taught many techniques like this, I find it amazing that people would prefer a butt joint over this, even with explaining it only takes a few minutes????
@1987pagey
6 ай бұрын
Proper job
@BillyMustang101
6 ай бұрын
Why on earth would you triple the time it takes to do a corner when a butt joint, glued, is just as effective and more importantly, quicker. You really have too much time on your hands Robin!
@mrsbradpittiful
6 ай бұрын
Couldn’t go through this process if you want to make money on a job
@dannym670
6 ай бұрын
Agreed, I knock a four bedroom house out top to bottom in a day with 6" ogee skirting, doing this I'd be there 3 days and the end result wouldn't be any different! Totally unnecessary, the poor customer paying on the other end will be well out of pocket paying 3 times over.
@TheUkGrimekid
6 ай бұрын
Yeah, not a fan of this idea, with today's adhesives to fit skirts just seems so pointless. I would get spending the extra time if it made a big difference, but yeah not in my eyes.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
I make money on every job, its just the standard I do for my customers
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
I used to do price work when I was younger and indeed used to get through masses of work to make it pay, its not my preferred type of work anymore!!!
@duncanvincent9106
6 ай бұрын
Not a fan of that
@RMMaryport
6 ай бұрын
Come on.
@sharvey6146
6 ай бұрын
Bet he doesn’t go back and put it right
@handycrowd
6 ай бұрын
Flat, plain skirting? When the heck-a-doodle did that abomination become a thing? Must only be in houses with staff... ;-)
@blairr97
6 ай бұрын
Mainly used in big apartment blocks in communal hallways/corridors
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
Nice and modern!!
@user-xz3iv6tw2i
6 ай бұрын
That looks awful.
@ukconstruction
6 ай бұрын
But the joint is invisible once the decorator has painted
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