One overzealous caption doesn't make the empire.....however the torture chamber and corpses in cages thought Imperial dungeons does speak to some seriously messed up stuff that the Empire is fine with. Seriously, screw those guys and their Getmos.
@SupComRaiden2
7 жыл бұрын
No? Well how about General Tullius the commander of the entire imperial legion in skyrim standing by and allowing them to execute a traveler who just so happened to cross in the same area the stormcloaks were at. If he won't put his foot down to prevent the summary execution of a traveler he's never going to be able to stand up to the altmer dominion. And honestly the empire surrendering just because they managed to attack the imperial city is like the US surrendering because a single army managed to invade washington DC.
@TheRoguePrince0
7 жыл бұрын
Yung Venuz God of guns yes the empire tryed to kill me so now i must join the stormcloaks fight the empire kill tullius and Rlikka and win skyrim its freedom
@julianmendoza5521
7 жыл бұрын
leon Shepard it was because of the stormcloaks that you were on the block in the first place
@TheRoguePrince0
7 жыл бұрын
redninja 64 i flight the empire for vengeance and i will have my revenge
@mystic0146
5 жыл бұрын
Skyrim “war” Battles “5v5” ......
@rampage3337
4 жыл бұрын
@Mr Stxne Alxne with mods 5v5 + thomas the train
@StoneOfChaos7
4 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, the engine has it's limits. That's gameplay and story segregation.
@tomveloso6231
3 жыл бұрын
@@StoneOfChaos7 yes, but there is a lot of cut content, like sieges and such
@richhartnell6233
3 жыл бұрын
I killed 80 men during the siege of windhelm in the legion side and a similar number during the siege of solitude on the stormcloak side. There are often relatively large amounts of enemies during most of the sieges. To progress during the sieges of most forts you need to kill like 40 enemies.
@JackofTrades21
2 жыл бұрын
@@richhartnell6233 what mod is that
@hypnode3270
5 жыл бұрын
Guys we’re forgetting the true rulers of Skyrim, the fall damage
@surrk1057
4 жыл бұрын
So, Gravity?
@timothywade4385
4 жыл бұрын
I think rd2 has worse fall damage as you fall 2 feet and die.
@surrk1057
4 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wade Well, it’s more realistic than most GTAs I guess?
@surrk1057
4 жыл бұрын
Golden - Destiny ..And in the end, I did -Arthur Morgan
@nohl__9394
4 жыл бұрын
@@surrk1057 this is Skyrim dipshit, not RDR2 not GTA, Skyrim.
@aboredguywithaninternetcon4663
4 жыл бұрын
"I promise, I'm not going to get political." 3 drinks later..... "Ultimately, the empire under the rule of Titus mede the 2nd is a joke and DESERVES TO DIE."
@Jonas_æ
4 жыл бұрын
sounds like my kind of politics
@jon1819
2 жыл бұрын
I would 100% go stormcloak if it wasn’t for the state of windhelm. If this is the kind of world the storm cloaks can build, why even fight for them? I get enough short sided racism and economic inequality in the real world
@dogebanzai456
2 жыл бұрын
@@jon1819 human and elves aren't the same species, you can't call them racist if they aren't even the same species.
@kyleauthinus7517
2 жыл бұрын
@@jon1819 look at the location of Windhelm. They are living in a cold as fuck area, of course they are not going to be as prosperous as Solitude who is at a much better location. And the city is also incredibly old
@snusey3642
Жыл бұрын
@@jon1819 just remember, the dark elves are way more racist than the nords
@joshlk
7 жыл бұрын
You can't compare the Nords and Redguards and say Skyrim would fight off the Aldmeri Dominion like Hammerfell did. We all know those redguards only won because they have curved swords. Curved. Swords.
@spenkerdetanker9067
7 жыл бұрын
Josh Konyn blades katana is also curved fam
@joshlk
7 жыл бұрын
steven buitenkamp Yeah..... you know the blades are: 1. An Imperial agency, not Stormcloak 2. Basically non-existant (at least in my games; I ain't ever gonna kill Paarthunax for those losers) Your argument is therefore invalid.
@spenkerdetanker9067
7 жыл бұрын
no fucking shit but havin scimitars isn't that big of an advantage either so its not a valid argument either, that's why I responded like dis.
@joshlk
7 жыл бұрын
steven buitenkamp U mad bro?
@spenkerdetanker9067
7 жыл бұрын
no
@goro8812
7 жыл бұрын
The logo for skyrim shows the empire symbol with a chip at the bottom symbolising the empire is not what it was and is crumbling
@Blurple0
7 жыл бұрын
Goro Or perhaps the missing chip is the dragonborn. Once you join the empire, it is complete and unified. Perhaps that's why only when you join either side do they gain the upper hand. Ta daa
@Benjamin-sq3gu
7 жыл бұрын
Goro Or maybe because they taught it was wise to have mindless barbarians as their subjects.
@chihao5395
7 жыл бұрын
Ysmir and his 500 warriors were outnumbered to the Snow elves. Ysmir with his Wuuthraad and 500 warriors buttfucked this shit out of the Snow Elves assholes. Another thing is that Empire AND the Aldmeri Dominion armies were decimated. The Dominion suffered more than the Empire because ALL their armies in Cyrodiil have been slaughtered in the last battle. Last, Elves breed very slow compared to humans. When Ysmir came with his people, Snow Elves were frightened by their breeding process. Humans fuck like rabbits. We breed fast as fuck. Elves are very slow at it. Either side you choose will result the defeat of the Dominion. I myself will always choose Stormcloaks because I can never support corruption silver tounges.
@briansheehan3430
7 жыл бұрын
Ulfric is just a man who wants to be High King and doesn't care about how many blacksmiths, farmers, or any of Skyrim's native sons and daughters die for him to do so, even having you personally hand deliver the crown to him while he sits on his ass in a decaying apartheid city. The Stormcloaks also attack the innocent civilians of Whiterun during the Battle of Whiterun.... Ulfric is being used as an asset for the Thalmor to drain Imperial resources and make it easier to invade Skyrim, and that's why he will die at the tip of my sword, for the greater good of Skyrim, and for the eventual fall of the Aldmeri Dominion. For the Empire!
@Itsprincesweets
6 жыл бұрын
Brian Sheehan then why does he go to sovengarde...
@HazarTulum
7 жыл бұрын
I found a wonderful comment on a civil war video some time ago, and I think it fits perfectly here Ulfric is High King by right. Now before I continue, let me just say - I'm just stating facts. Facts that you can't ignore regardless of your personal opinion of Ulfric or the Stormcloaks. So let's begin; in the ancient times, Nordic custom was that one man can challenge another to an honourable duel. If both men agreed, they can meet up and fight. The first to give up or die was declared the loser, and the winner was given whatever they were duelling over. "But Ulfric walked in and killed him" This is completely false. In game dialogue does prove that Ulfric challenged Torygg to an honourable duel, which Torygg accepted. "Torygg had to accept, he didn't have a choice" Yes he did. As any man has the right to challenge someone to an honourable due, any man also had the right to refuse a challenge, "Torygg would of looked like a coward if he rejected" Doesn't matter, he still accepted. He just put his pride over his life. "Using the thu'um was cheating" This is bullshit. At the time these customs took effect, using the thu'um was not only allowed, it was praised. Even a basic shout like 'Fus Ro Dah', takes years of meditation and dedication to be able to perform. Using the thu'um was just using what you know, and it served as a testament to your dedication and strength. "Torygg didn't know Ulfric had the thu'um" Complete fabrication. Not only is it common knowledge that Ulfric studied with the greybeards. Ulfric is a well-known war hero. And it's well known he used the thu'um in the war. If Torygg didn't know, that's his fault. "The Empire does not recognize this law" There are no records of the Empire changing this law. I could understand why they wouldn't give Ulfric the throne, but charging him with murder while they watched Ulfric duel and kill Torygg is just ridiculous. "This custom affects the smallest things, and no the throne" False. Jorunn the Skald-Kind challenged his brother to the throne, and got it when he won the duel. Now: "The rebellion is stupid, because it divided the Empire, and Skyrim will fall to the Thalmor. With the Empire in control, they have a chance to resume war with the Thalmor. Not to mention Ulfric is a racist" I'm getting tired of healing this. But especially the "Ulfric's a racist" thing. First of all, just to get it out of the way, I'm pretty sure true Nords would rather go down fighting the Thalmor than living under their rule. Second, "they have a chance to resume the war." The war shouldn't have stopped in the first place. The Empire was winning, and they just surrendered. Joanna's battered legions. In the end, the main Aldmeri army in Cyrodiil was completely destroyed, The Emperor's decision to withdraw from the Imperial City 4e 174 was bloodily vindicated. So even if the Stormcloaks were to lose, it's more than the Empire would do. "But Tullius said they are going to fight the Dominion?" Well, Tullius doesn't run the entire Empire, does he? Now onto the racism. Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are not racist. That's a very big accusation. If you think Ulfric and the Stormcloaks are racist, you have not been paying attention. You need to open up your mind on this a bit. There are only two real racists in Windhelm, Rolff and Angrenor, who were first seen bullying a Dunmer woman when you first enter the city. Other than them, what makes Stormcloaks any more racist than anyone else? And seeing people immediately changing factions just because of these two fuckers makes me cringe. So I really need to get this off my mind. First of all, if Ulfric truly was a racist, then why would he let Altmer and Imperials live nice lives within his city and lands? If he really was racist, you would think he would be treating the Altmer (Race of which the Aldmeri Dominion is centred around and consists mainly of) and the Imperials (Race of which the Imperial Legion is centred around and consists mainly of) worse than the Dunmer and Argonians. But there are Altmer and Imperials living wonderful lives within his city (For example: Niranye and Viola). This is because, unlike the Dunmer in the Grey Quarter, they actually contribute (I'll touch on that as this goes on). Speaking of the Dunmer, many Imperials also like to use them being in the Grey Quarter to further their argument. But have you not noticed Belyn Hlaalu? He's a Dunmer who lives a nice life on a nice farm on Ulfric's land. If he wanted to, Ulfric could take that farm from Belyn with a snap of his fingers. Belyn contributes to the Stormcloak cause in Windhelm. This is proved when he says "The only way to win the Nord's respect is through hard work." Indicating that he is working for the Nords who occupy Windhelm, aka the Stormcloaks. He also says "Too many Dunmer complain about the way we're treated. What good does complaining do?" I agree. I don't see those Dunmer in the Grey Quarter doing anything to help out, if they did, they would be living a life similar to that of Mr. Hlaalu. He helps out the Stormcloaks, so he gets to live a nice life. Have you also considered that Ulfric is a bit busy with a war and then preparing for a bigger war to spend a large amount of money on renovating a quarter of a city filled with people who don't even contribute? Now moving onto the Argonians. You also see people condemn Ulfric for keeping the Argonians out of Windhelm. But last time I checked, Brunwulf Free-Winter (Whom becomes Jarl should the Legion win) also keeps them out and his reasoning is that "they must remain outside for their own safety". Have you not considered that maybe that's why Ulfric keeps them out? It appears not. Nothing changes for the Argonians when the Imperials take over. Does that make the Imperials racist as well? Ulfric respects anyone who supports the Stormcloak cause, regardless of race. Also, let's not forget the fact that Nords are a naturally proud race, but that doesn't make them racist. And finally, to the people who read the Thalmor dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak and immediately assume he's a spy. So many people read that and don't understand what it is saying. They call him an asset because his actions are inadvertently helping the Thalmor. They captured him and tortured him for info during the last war. Then they let him escape so that he could stir up trouble with his unrest over the Talos banDoes no one read the "uncooperative" part? It means he's not trying to help them. His actions just happen to benefit the Thalmor since a civil war gives them time to gain strength and take over at a later date. But if the Stormcloaks win it will still be bad for the Thalmor. The dossier says as much. People who say Ulfric is a spy really don't understand the context of that report. I hope this helped to enlighten whoever read it at least a little.
@proxy90909
7 жыл бұрын
Skullcrusher430 You state a really good point, as someone who made his first character an Argonian it seemed pretty racist to keep them outside, but it is not like they had a lot of empty houses perfect to fit people inside and the grey quarter its still a place where they can live, there are only two racist men against them but it is not like the guards themselves or other people are racist on the other hand on whiterun that has jarl Balgruf(I think I mispelled it) who is mainly imperial has khajit outside completely forbidden from living anywhere on the hold. I know other holds do the same but if you see the comparison the only race that is truly affected by racism its the khajit cause the argonians can live and work in windhelm aswell as the dunmer but not the khajit so they are not racist and the only race that the stormcloaks are racist against is the same race that the very empire is ALSO racist against, I dont recall an argonian or dunmer outside of the companions living in whiterun or solitude there is only the bandit-like argonian and the wabbajack crazy dunmer windhelm and its "racist" jarl actually houses more races equally. What is more racist giving jobs and homes to the people or strait up deny entry or residence?
@Jon_Snow_88
7 жыл бұрын
Skullcrusher430 Beautifully put, honestly was a good read. Sadly the Empire fan boys will discredit this and continue to believe in there false "Empire".
@HazarTulum
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Actually, yes
@nickpavon4388
7 жыл бұрын
this doesn't explain what the Stormcloaks would do afterwards though which is a huge deal. The biggest problem is what would happen if X side won. Stormcloaks have no allies from other provinces. They would lose imported goods and would be forced to become self sufficient. Losing good they like as well as being forced to become farmers just to survive would make the stormclaoks lose support of much of the people. They have zero chance of invading to stop the dominion simply because they lack the resources. They would only be able to defend their borders at the best, wasting many resources that would be scarce from trying to be self sufficient. That means if the Aldmeri just toss enough to keep them occupied then they could play the waiting game and steam roll them once they build up more forces. Perhaps their most glaring weakness is that it is built around Ulfirc to much. If he were to die it's extremly likely a power struggle would commerce or Stormcloaks would slowly weaken until collapse. The empire one the other hand is self sufficient. It is very likely that it will be allies with hammerfell due to a legion being there and helping the redguards beat the aldmeri. It would have the remaining military force of skyrim and eith strong allies the neutral Bretons would likely join them as well. Not counting the Bretons, the empire would have a decent chance of defeating the weakened Aldmeri with such a rapid build up of forces and resoruces. With the Bretons it's almost 100% guaranteed they would win
@HazarTulum
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn -_-
@Jonas_æ
6 жыл бұрын
Stormcloaks win, Emperor recognize Skyrim as independent, and Ulfric and Galmar Stone-Fist start chatting up Hammerfell about bringing some thicc curved swords along when they set out to kick some damned elven ass.
@forestjohnson7474
4 жыл бұрын
YEP, hell hammerfell is already half way there, they have a few troops in town, enogh to kill a whole thalmor army, hahahahahha!!!!!
@drasticmeasures4136
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly put highrock on that good shit too bruh like the bretons definitely hate the thalmor too and also put blackmarsh on that good shit because they took away morrowind from the dark elves they literally own it and they are independent im pretty sure and like cmon ik argonions hate elves but the bosmer they pre chill
@jamesmccloud7535
4 жыл бұрын
huh sounds like fanfic to me. The stormcloaks will lose I dont see how they stand a chance against the empire what more the Thalmor. And no Skyrim and Hammerfell are not "friends" sorry they don't owe each other anything. You're dismissing the fact that even if they somehow become independent, the Thalmor will see this as an opportunity and IMMEDIATELY take the weakened Skyrim for themselves, like taking candy from a baby.
@drasticmeasures4136
4 жыл бұрын
James Mccloud sounds very close minded to me, just watch more videos on Stormcloaks and not biased ones that are against them and then put 2 and 2 together because im not about to argue about this stuff anymore, the arguments just get toxic and becomes biased
@Jonas_æ
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmccloud7535 I didn't dismiss anything. If the Dominion were to attempt an invasion on Skyrim, they would need to march their forces there. Skyrim is the northernmost province of Tamriel, only accessible through mountain passes in their bordering regions. The Dominion would have to go to war with at least another nation in order to even get there. Geography matters in war. I never claimed anyone to be 'friends'. Skyrim and Hammerfell used to both be Imperial provinces, they're both nations of men with a long history of conflict with elves, and they both recently fought in a war together and suffered unjust treatment in the aftermath. They have more than enough reasons in common to ally against an enemy they've already allied against.
@xelgringoloco2
7 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn't mention in regards to the Thalmor trying to invade Skyrim is that its a logistical nightmare. They don't share any border with Skyrim and even if they did its one of the furtherst point from their core territory. So trying to supply their army would be near impossible. Once they enter the country they are faced with small roads, large forests and hundreds of hills and mountains. Terrain that massively favours defenders, especially since they have the home field advantage of knowing the terrain. The Nords are in an excellent position to use their terrain advantage to set up ambushes, and they've already proven their prowess with guerilla warfare.
@xelgringoloco2
7 жыл бұрын
Also the Almeri Dominion's soldiers would come from the Summerset Isles, Valenwood and Elsweyr; All hot climates. The soldiers would freeze to death and their combat ability would suffer as they aren't acclimatised.
@raynes6286
7 жыл бұрын
xEl Gringo Loco I don't know if the Dominion has a navy but that could be effective. Though the Sea of Ghosts would probably claim many ships and lives.
@secondandonly8032
7 жыл бұрын
xEl Gringo Loco The Thalmor can go through cyrodil you know
@xelgringoloco2
7 жыл бұрын
Yung Venuz God of guns Yeah but that means the have to travel through Cyrodil, which means feeding their army for the entire march. Which means less supplies when they actually enter Skyrim and they wont be able to resupply once in Skyrim because of the distance.
@drippinwet774
7 жыл бұрын
xEl Gringo Loco The Thalmor are not retarded. They need the Aldmeri Dominion united if they want any power over Skyrim. The WG Concordat allows more resources for expansion in a region that will not bow to the Aldmeri Dominion. Regardless, it doesn't matter. Skyrim will never bow to the Thalmor/Aldmeri. It'll always end in bloodshed. However, if the Dwemer were to return...
@sonnylummes3052
7 жыл бұрын
The red guard kicked the dominions ass, the empire is weak to fall to them.
@podtherod9304
7 жыл бұрын
Sonny Lummes The Empire losing the War was a strategic decision, learn your lore mate.
@wolfwarlordjake8992
7 жыл бұрын
The reason the Redguards' won was because they fought off a weakened Aldmeri Dominion.
@razzl8219
7 жыл бұрын
The redguards won because the aldmeri probably fight whit a small army
@ultratankie
7 жыл бұрын
Hammerfell is basically the Vietnam of Tamriel. You don't fight a war against its people, in their country and on their terms, and win.
@codyconnor6981
7 жыл бұрын
Sonny Lummes The dominion isn't getting their asses kicked in Hammerfell it's currently a stalemate.
@aboredguywithaninternetcon4663
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine elder scrolls 6 being like "Yeah, Skyrim controls everything now."
@jamesmccloud7535
4 жыл бұрын
nah highly unlikely es6 will be the second great war. Empire Vs Thalmor
@AGwest1
4 жыл бұрын
James Mccloud Actually, it’s possible. Apparently the game is set six years after the events of Skyrim, it’s been on a couple trustworthy leaks.
@jamesmccloud7535
4 жыл бұрын
@@AGwest1 yeah sure everything is possible - Michael Kirkbride You can make anything your headcanon and completely dismiss anything that contradicts that. Though that might be true in the CODA concept but that doesn't apply to the games. Bethesda will have to decide how the story goes on after Skyrim and I don't see Skyrim conquering anything. In es6 there is a high chance it will still be the empire v.s thalmor whether stormcloak sympathizers like it or not. Actually there is a hidden note in the game that can only be unlocked that many people don't know about that "kinda" tells how the civil war will turn out. It can only be unlocked if you joined the stormcloaks and defeated the "small" legion in Skyrim. I don't have time to explain the details about it so I recommend just watching this video and tell me your thoughts... kzitem.info/news/bejne/mK5u2Yahq2ZzpqQ
@AGwest1
4 жыл бұрын
James Mccloud I think I misread your first comment. I thought you were saying that there wasn’t gonna be a Second Great War. I prefer the Empire over Stormcloaks, just to clarify. I also don’t see Skyrim conquering anything. In my comment, I was inferring that because it’s only six years after Skyrim there could definitely be another Great War.
@jamesmccloud7535
4 жыл бұрын
@@AGwest1 oh ok, did you watch the video I linked? cause be4 watching that I didn't know a note like that existed all these years. You should definitely give it a watch, it's really interesting it can only be unlocked if you joined the stormcloaks. Which is Bethesda's way of saying it doesn't matter who you side with, the Empire still wins regardless. It didn't really surprise me though, I recommend you watch it in case you didn't know about it.
@295Phoenix
6 жыл бұрын
The Empire demonstrated that they no longer have the best interests of Skyrim in mind. Regardless of whether that's out of weakness or malice, the Empire is clearly on the road to falling apart and it's only right for the Nords to get off the train before it crashes.
@dutchpatriot17
6 жыл бұрын
That has to be the most braindead line or arguing I've yet to see. Can you not look further than your nose is long?
@Ithinkso11
3 жыл бұрын
@@dutchpatriot17 I hope your views have shifted after two years because goddamn this has got to be the most ignorant thing I’VE read
@dutchpatriot17
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ithinkso11 Nope, because what I said remains correct. Not my fault that you don't know the lore.
@Ithinkso11
3 жыл бұрын
@@dutchpatriot17 You are an absolute prick bro. Two years and you’re still acting this way? I hope you’re at most 15 because you need to grow up dude
@dutchpatriot17
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ithinkso11 Look at who's talking.
@BHSNetwork
7 жыл бұрын
Have u not heard of Ulfric being controlled by the Thalmor to weaken the Empire so the Thalmor can invade and take Skyrim????? Because when I heard that I went from a stormcloak character to an Imperial
@notsoprogaming9789
7 жыл бұрын
he was not being controled it was more like manipulation. and also in the same dossier they said that stormcloak victory was also to be avoided because it would make skyrim much harder to invade or something
@notsoprogaming9789
7 жыл бұрын
Tage Sylvan ?
@juanjoseph
7 жыл бұрын
No, it said a Stormloak victory was to be avoided since humanity becomes weaker each day the Civil War keeps going.
@notsoprogaming9789
7 жыл бұрын
juanjoseph yes and if the war ends the opposite is true
@milohoff1409
7 жыл бұрын
If you were to ac actually read it you would know that they were pretty much trying to start the civil war and in order to do so needed the Nords to be pissed (hence the banning of Talos) and a leader to be driven and inspirational enough to start the war, ulfric was the perfect choice. The most the thalmor did to his mind was convincing him that he was the reason the empire lost.
@jamesroper4952
7 жыл бұрын
I always pick the Stormcloaks every play through, even as a High Elf. The Empire did the one thing, that an empire should never do. Outlaw the praise of its founder and hero. I think the Roman Empire did the same thing with Julius Caesar, and look what eventually happened to them. Imagine what would happen if the Federal Government banned the worship of Jesus Christ, under the order of some foreign country. Americans everywhere would be taking up arms against the government. Outlawing the first right of the First Amendment, Freedom of Religion. The empire is falling apart in Tameriel, just like all empires. It's time for a new kind of leadership in Tameriel. Free from the tyranny of the Aldmerie Dominion. With the Dragonborn on their side, the Thalmor or the Imperial Legion don't stand a chance against the Stormcloaks. Plus if you refuse to kill Paarthurnaxx, but kill any of the remaining troublesome dragons. It seems likely that a united dragon kind under the leadership of the Dragonborn is possible. With Paarthurnaxx as second in command. The dragons could very easily prove to be very powerful allies against the Aldmerie Dominion.
@drasticmeasures4136
4 жыл бұрын
James Roper i honestly never thought of it that way like ive always been a stormcloak myself but I always thought that if you kill paarthurnax and build the blades again it would be like a second army of very skilled warriors. Basically the same idea as yours but with the blades
@jacrispy3275
4 жыл бұрын
The problem with this comment is that you act like the Empire & the Dominion are both allies, which couldn't be further from the truth. Tullius states in-game that the Empire is rebuilding its numbers for another Great War with the Aldmeri Dominion. You know all the Stormcloaks do? Slow down the Empire from rebuilding itself for another chance against the Dominion. And the picture is a lot bigger than "HuRr DurR, TalOs WorShIp iS BanNed"; the Thalmor are looking to destroy the races of men by decimating The Towers (which literally hold Mundus intact), and raising themselves to godhood in the process. Stopping mass genocide is much more important than Talos worship.
@drasticmeasures4136
4 жыл бұрын
Mathew C. This is where i think you don’t understand, the dominion go wherever the empire goes and they send spys on the empire and literally piggy back ride them, if you watch fudgemuppet they explain it but also not worshipping talos is bad because when a divine looses its worshippers the divine weakens and weakens till they die and are erased from history so the thalmor are literally trying to end one of the divines. Sorry about that i usually skip ahead when I comment cause I generally think people actually watch videos on this kinda stuff
@jacrispy3275
4 жыл бұрын
@@drasticmeasures4136 - really? Well, I'll look for their video on that later. Thanks!
@drasticmeasures4136
4 жыл бұрын
Mathew C. Well its not a specific video but if you watch the secret plan of the thalmor video, you’ll see what i mean
@mikeycisar2665
7 жыл бұрын
I love Stormcloaks, but also I love Jarl Ballin' :D
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
Same here, but in addition Brunwulf Free Winter
@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099
2 жыл бұрын
He's the lord of the rings, he's the jarl of whiterun
@piceofknowledge9296
5 жыл бұрын
Its TIE-BURR Septim
@galacticquasar9944
4 жыл бұрын
Dude went tibber like wHt 😂😂😂
@joshfoley6412
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a pet cat or something
@JohnDoe-wp2gs
3 жыл бұрын
The stormcloak victory is badass i love how ulfric shouted everyone in solitude
@RidingNQ
7 жыл бұрын
honestly my skyrim character is strong enough to destroy the aldmeri dominion
@adamryan6857
3 жыл бұрын
Same console and Tgm my friend, console and tgm
@Daan-Dovah
3 жыл бұрын
My character has their own kingdom is married to Miraak and has 3 dragonborns living in their house and has a full army of full ebony armor and has bend will and dragon aspect etc not only that I can summon mother fuckin alduin so ya no one is beating my character plus they have a ring of immortality so they can forever rule and bring peace
@memejojawolf
3 жыл бұрын
@@Daan-Dovah 😂
@eugeneyesledge
7 жыл бұрын
Thought of a good quote, might as well share it. "In war, amateurs talk tactics, trained talk strategies, professionals talk supplies." In the universe of Elder scrolls, it is IMPOSSIBLE for the dominion to start and maintain an open war with an independent Skyrim. And here is why. First, invade skyrim by land is simply not an option, unless the dominion is also at war with Hammerfell, the empire, most likely both. Even assuming the dominion is at war with only one of those powers, a large portion of its troops still cannot be deployed to the battlefield due to the threat of another neutral power. Unless the dominion develops a way to transport, supply, and care for its troops deep in hostile territories, strategically speaking the dominion doesn't even have a chance against Hammerfell alone due to its unforgiving terrain, let alone reaching and fighting in skyrim. So the second option is the attack with a naval invasion, and honestly it's even worse than attack on land. The only one port suitable for a LARGE SCALE invasion and maintain as a supply distribution center is solitude. And it's near impossible for the dominion to maintain a supply line reaching all the way from the southeast corner of the world, travel through hostile waters( hammerfell water and high rock imperial water) and reach solitude in time to supply and rotate its troops. Yes I do realize there are other beachheads that can be used as landing zone, some of them do have villages nearby, but they are not suitable for a large force to use it as a forward base, and here's why. 1, most of these beaches are located near shallow waters, large ships used by the dominion to transport all the way over would not be able to sail into port. 2, if we use the in game calendar, frozen water surface are presented in most of these locations year round, not ideal for troops made up of mostly southern elves and other races. 3, most if not all of them are not near major transportation routes, meaning the dominion needs to literally dig a new highway for the supplies to reach its front line troops. At first glance this is not a problem, however if that's the case, the majority portion of its invading forces would be consisted of rear echelon troops, engineers, workers and none frontline troops. This was exactly the problem the German army faces in WW2, almost half of its invading force during operation Barbarossa were made up of rear echelon troops, consequently they suffered greatly to local resistances, lack of efficiency when it comes to resupplying its combat troops. If that was a case for a near fully mechanized army, just imagine what a disaster would be for an army with medieval resupplying and mobility tech. It is also worth mentioning, skyrim's terrain somewhat closely resembles a modern day shithole on earth called Afghanistan, but much colder all year round, unforgiving. Skyrim's people are even more committed to their cause than the extremists the NATO faces today. Conclusion to my late night comment, in war it's not always the one with bigger muscles wins. Skyrim's independent opens an opportunity for its new political alliance with Hanmerfell, an isolated resisting force that desperately needs a new comrade in arms. Plus the dragonborn, you know.
@TBone4Breakfast
6 жыл бұрын
I imagine it would be like trying to invade Russia in the middle of a blizzard
@andyrrafaelthebeastemperor8709
6 жыл бұрын
Trenton Quinn You imagine right. Skyrim by land and sea are practically impossible with a large attack force. Unless... Say that the Stormcloacks won, and we (dragonborn) killed Tullius. I doubt we would stop there, as there are many camps, and thalmor. So I may see that one way of reaching Skyrim is by accessing Cyrrodil. Because we rebelled, the Empire is now our enemy, and the Thalmor would use that as an asset. If it was up to me, I would definitely use the concordant to get military access, and send a large force to, officially, quench the rebellion. But as we know, alliances can be made, truces as well. Skyrim should make an alliance with highrock and hammerfell.
@mitchell3593
6 жыл бұрын
Eugene Ye ummm the summerset isles are in the southwest not southeast
@MrPsych77
6 жыл бұрын
darklord_silver still a drastically different climate
@nocthemedic2951
6 жыл бұрын
Andyr Rafael the only problem with that idea is that the Empire don't like the Thalmor and in fact the only reason they accepted the peace treaty is because they wanted to declare war again once they've rebuild their civilization. Should Skyrim gain her independence and then declare war on the Thalmor with let's say the assistance of hammerfell and possibly High Rock there is no possible scenario in which the Empire hold such a grudge that they would not at the very least be neutral in the conflict and at the most Ally with Skyrim and hammerfell. Just remember the Empire doesn't actually like the Thalmor so the odds that they would Ally with them is slim to none
@aha8887
7 жыл бұрын
For God's sake when is this utter 'Ulfric is a Thalmor SPY' bullcrap going to end? The dossier says he's an 'uncooperative asset'. For anyone above the age of 6 this clearly means he does not serve the Thalmor as a vassal but his actions indirectly benefit them in one way. As is inevitable seeing as they're more powerful than the Empire and the Stormcloaks on paper. Also, Ulfric isn't racist. He's a Nord nationalist which is to be expected since he's in the middle of a freaking war for the Nords and he quite possibly is suspicious toward non Nords on a personal level but that becomes irrelevant; there's a rich High Elf lady in Windhelm who comments on how a little work earned her a good place as a merchant there. There's also a Dark Elf who owns a farm and even comments on how the Dark Elves of Gray Quarter complain too much instead of doing anything; that the authority expects support from its citizens during a war effort is common sense. Also, the Gray Quarter Elves steal stuff and have Imperial Armour stashed in that inn/house of theirs. Kek. As for Argonians not being allowed inside Windhelm, Ulfric didn't make that rule, someone long ago did. Khajiit, yeah skooma thing.
@aha8887
7 жыл бұрын
The only way you could've made such a comment is by literally not reading a word I said. I'm just going to copy paste to shred this 'he is racist' propaganda (keeps elves belonging to the enemy race inside his city = 'wants to kick all elves out of Skyrim' lol talk about making things up) : 'He's a Nord nationalist which is to be expected since he's in the middle of a freaking war for the Nords and he quite possibly is suspicious toward non Nords on a personal level but that becomes irrelevant; there's a rich High Elf lady in Windhelm who comments on how a little work earned her a good place as a merchant there. There's also a Dark Elf who owns a farm and even comments on how the Dark Elves of Gray Quarter complain too much instead of doing anything; that the authority expects support from its citizens during a war effort is common sense. Also, the Gray Quarter Elves steal stuff and have Imperial Armour stashed in that inn/house of theirs. Kek. As for Argonians not being allowed inside Windhelm, Ulfric didn't make that rule, someone long ago did. Khajiit, yeah skooma thing.' Tl;dr High Elves and Dark Elves can make it good in Windhelm if they WORK. Not sit around remarking on how they don't care about the city's affairs (the women murders, for example). The Argonian thing is part of lore; the previous holders of Windhelm did indeed ban them, even if an NPC says otherwise. Ulfric simply didn't lift the ban.
@artifica0
6 жыл бұрын
Guys he's a thalmor spy get him
@kmstirpitz4285
6 жыл бұрын
AH A The Ulfric is a spy for the Thalmor thing is literally the strongest point they have, yet it can be discredited easily. It's been stated through and through, that a Stormcloak victory is to be avoided at all costs along with an Imperial victory. It's what they want, both sides to be distracted. I still don't get why they say Ulfric is a Thalmor puppet. Is he a bigger puppet than the Empire already is to the Dominion? Hell no. Thalmor practically roam the streets of Skyrim prior to a Stormcloak win. So to all to the people who say a Stormcloak victory is beneficial to the Thalmor, it's not. It's stated in the documents themselves. And when you think about it, the Thalmor wouldn't want a whole group of angry Nords whom are threatening to invade their homeland to be able to rule a whole province, right? No, they wouldn't. They want to control everything. The whole Empire.
@krustykrabemployeepatricks3709
6 жыл бұрын
Halmar Steel-Dick I bet most Imperial extremists haven’t even done the Stormcloak questline. They always say that Ulfric is an asshole because he is apparently racist. But they never even make the point that Ulfric straight up LIES to the Dragonborn once the Stormcloak side is completed. He said he’d become high king fairly, by letting the Jarls decide if he is worthy or not. But a conversation with Falk Firebeard states that they have no choice but to vote towards Ulfric for High King because his soldiers are garrisoned in all the holds.
@nicopiggin9029
5 жыл бұрын
AH A You ignored so many things I can't believe it. If your a khjeet he calls you "cat" which is rude. If your not a Nord he makes fun of you.
@cillrend5764
7 жыл бұрын
I like the storm cloaks BUT I like ulfric's coat soooo you know
@hisholiness4537
7 жыл бұрын
+cillrend Check out the Stormlord armor mod. Clothes fit for a true high king.
@justnoob8141
7 жыл бұрын
cillrend but... his armor has no full set model for female model
@jimmywalker7381
7 жыл бұрын
cillrend just pick pocket man
@heathen2743
7 жыл бұрын
Can't you pickpocket it?
@marshalmarshall2109
6 жыл бұрын
*PICKPOCKET 100*
@codybrown1320
7 жыл бұрын
I feel as though many people say "if the Stormcloaks win the empire will be divided and will fall easily" without truly understanding that the Stormcloaks, provided with freedom, would support the empire. All the Stormcloaks want is the option to make their own decisions. The Stormcloaks would side with the empire and Hammerfell, effectively leading to a new empire. Given a year or two they would have organized enough to wage a devastating guerrilla war. Hammerfell and Skyrim are extreme climates with citizens who are experts in guerrilla warfare and know the land. The Thalmor don't know the land, are not adjusted to the land, and are less skilled in guerrilla warfare when compared to Nords and redguards. We are essentially looking at Russia vs Napoleon or Hitler and America vs the Middle East; the resources expended by the Dominion would drain them to the brink of defeat. Allowing an organized assault to end the war. Please criticize my opinion as I would love to see all sides to this argument.
@HumanOfPrey
7 жыл бұрын
Are you writing a fanfic? What you said is pure fanfic and would NEVER happen.
@codybrown1320
7 жыл бұрын
HumanOfPrey If you have a more likely theory I would love to hear it. I'm honestly quite bored right now so I'd love to have a petty argument that will amount to nothing.
@skyrimandskuldduggerypleas491
6 жыл бұрын
No, because the hate the Empire. Ulfric hates the Empire and they all do. So they wouldnt help.
@dutchpatriot17
5 жыл бұрын
@Rick O'Shay Why would he bother with a ''counterargument'' when OP"s post isn't even using facts or logic?
@dutchpatriot17
5 жыл бұрын
@Rick O'Shay Allow me to show you how his theory doesn't use logic: *the Stormcloaks, provided with freedom, would support the empire. All the Stormcloaks want is the option to make their own decisions. The Stormcloaks would side with the empire and Hammerfell, effectively leading to a new empire.* This is fake. The Stormcloaks yell ''A Pox on the Empire!'', ''Death to the Empire!'' and other such battlecries throughout the entire game. They do not wish to see Skyrim independent, they wish to tsee the Empire fall. The Stormcloaks do not seek to work with the Redguards or the Empire, they seek to create their own invasion on Summerset, both Ulfric and Galmar state as much. *Given a year or two they would have organized enough to wage a devastating guerrilla war. Hammerfell and Skyrim are extreme climates with citizens who are experts in guerrilla warfare and know the land. The Thalmor don't know the land, are not adjusted to the land, and are less skilled in guerrilla warfare when compared to Nords and redguards.* This is, again, utter nonsense. Skyrim following the Civil War is broke, its coffers are empty and under Stormcloak rule, its trade lanes would be extremely limited. The Stormcloak army is also extremely weak, and there's absolutely nothing to even suggest they'd be good at any sort of guerilla warfare. Not even the Redguards are said to be experts at guerrilla warfare; OP is speculating without anything to back it up. The Thalmor know Skyrim, they know how its climate is, and have far more skilled soldiers than either the Redguards or Nords... Aside from that, the Thalmor also have battlemages, something both the Nords and Redguards shun. *We are essentially looking at Russia vs Napoleon or Hitler and America vs the Middle East; the resources expended by the Dominion would drain them to the brink of defeat. Allowing an organized assault to end the war.* Comparing Russia to Skyrim is the biggest fault that exists. Not only is Skyrim nowhere near as large as Russia, it's also nowhere near as strong. Every time Skyrim has been invaded, the Nords failed to push back the invading force, how come? Because the Nords are bad at warfare. The Dominion's resources are grand, especially compared to Skyrim post-civil war.
@CockyRabbit
7 жыл бұрын
I can wipe out the entire Aldmeri Dominion with my character...
@Lb-ft3fv
6 жыл бұрын
I side with the stormcloaks just to kill thalmor tbh...
@TheLatiosnlatias02
3 жыл бұрын
I wish they eradicated Black briars, Thieves Guild, Blades and not to mention Battle born
@tyskbulle
7 жыл бұрын
"I fight for the men I've held in my arms, dying on foreign soil! I fight for their wives and children, whose names I heard whispered in their last breath. I fight for we few who did come home, only to find our country full of strangers wearing familiar faces. I fight for my people impoverished to pay the debts of an Empire too weak to rule them, yet brands them criminals for wanting to rule themselves! I fight so that all the fighting I've already done hasn't been for nothing! I fight... because I must."
@tyskbulle
7 жыл бұрын
"Soon, the elves will again seek to rule the world. We must ready ourselves to fight them. For it will be Skyrim that shall lead Tamriel in those dark days, when the fate of the world is finally determined."
@jesuspinto9805
7 жыл бұрын
Just like what a comunist would say before taking over lol
@tyskbulle
7 жыл бұрын
The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people! So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine!
@tyskbulle
7 жыл бұрын
"We're fighting because we're done bleeding for an Empire that won't bleed for us! Untold numbers of Nords died defending the Empire against the Dominion. And for what? Skyrim being sold to the Thalmor so the Emperor could keep his throne. We're fighting because our own Jarls, once strong, wise men, have become fearful and blind with the people's suffering. We're fighting because Skyrim needs heroes, and there's no one else but us." :)
@tyskbulle
7 жыл бұрын
The White Gold Concordat is the crime and the emperor the accused. "If this was my Empire, I'd be able to worship whoever I damned well pleased. You wish to see an Empire without Talos? Without its soul? We should be fighting those witch-elves, not bending knee to them. The Emperor is nothing more than a puppet of the Thalmor. Skyrim needs a High King who will fight for her, and Whiterun needs a Jarl who will do the same."
@marshalmarshall2109
6 жыл бұрын
My first playthrough was imperial and I regret it
@Cowboybounty
5 жыл бұрын
I've been a stormcloak since the beginning , I keep wanting to make an imperial and go the empire route , but it never feels right. I really feel like , if the elder scrolls 6 is a direct sequel , which I hope it is , I hope there are alot of options when choosing how the war continues. Maybe you get Ulfric to change his mind about the empire , and you act as a peace treaty to combine the forces against the Thalmor , or you dual Ulfric the same way he dualed the High King and you become the leader of the Stormcloaks , and with that choice you either side with the empire against the Thalmor , or say fuck them both. Or you play as the empire , and either wipe out Ulfric , or get him to join , or you join him. Some many options to me that Bethesda dropped the ball on in this game. But whatever it is , I hope the Stormcloaks take the fight to the Thalmor like Ulfric stated at the end of the Civil War in Skyrim.
@aylerowens1293
5 жыл бұрын
So was mine but that was when I first got the game and I didn’t know you could join the stormcloaks
@Nice-pt9mp
5 жыл бұрын
Same
@imperialtrooper927
4 жыл бұрын
Equality and Unity is the way to go for me. Empire for life.
@theparodywizard677
4 жыл бұрын
@@imperialtrooper927 Equality and unity!!!! Under the Thalmor's Boot.
@spoops752
6 жыл бұрын
100% stormcloak all the way but I always feel bad when having to choose between Ralof and Hadvar istg. I like em both. Edit: I forgot to add that I usually go with Hadvar to Riverwood as yk his uncle is a blacksmith. You can get free ingots whenever they respawn lol
@justsomedude8091
4 жыл бұрын
Only reason I don’t like the stormcloaks is that they are racist 😕
@spoops752
4 жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude8091 Same but i agree with most of what they're fighting for
@justsomedude8091
4 жыл бұрын
Spoops yeah. And I also choose them over imperials because I got a mod that lets you use a war horn depending who you’re fighting for
@spoops752
4 жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude8091 O shi, bois
@reese4077
3 жыл бұрын
@@justsomedude8091 wanting to protect your homeland and culture isn't racist. Look more into the dark elves, they want to take over all of skyrim. Read Dunmer of Skryim. Also elves think they're superior too. Imagine the empire comes to you Country to try and eliminate your culture and people, they're the real racist
@Spike2276
5 жыл бұрын
my allegiance in skyrim was a journey, on my first playthrough i had come from a shallow playthrough of oblivion as a kid, i mean not an actual kid but not old enough to understand politics as well as i do now, i also didn't pay much attention to the surrounding world other than "gotta deal with the big red dude" so my very first skyrim playthrough i played the underdog side and joined the stormcloaks (call it star wars syndrome, whenever i saw the word "empire" it was an immediate red flag) but i was still largely oblivious to TES lore in general after many playthroughs and diving deeper into the lore i came to respect the empire build by tiber septim and i thought it was something worth fighting for thus i became a die hard imperial loyalist keeping with my respect for talos, after i went back to oblivion and had a much more in depth playthrough, which importantly included the knights of the nine which was not available when i first played, i saw how talos was straight up a part of the divine pantheon as talos is literally the divine that allows you to do what pelinal couldn't because talos wasn't around back then add to that my further learning of the lore and how TES gods have their power directly affected by devotion and worship, as well as learning more about tiber septim in life as opposed to learning of the god talos, i realised how talos could effectively be rendered powerless and how tiber would've spat at the notion of peace at any cost i'm now back at where i started, backing the stormcloaks and i can proudly say that skyrim truly does belong to the nords, i don't entirely agree with ulfric's methods or his persona in general but the man has a point when it comes to the empire's bad management of resources, it's destruction and defamation of it's history and religion, and while him using the thu'um against torygg was the greatest dick move recorded probably since the second era, in using the thu'um he showed what the nords were, what skyrim and tiber septim were, and he reminded the world of the true power of the children of the sky and their storm voice big take away: ulfric is a dick but he is right, tiber septim was also a dick and i really respect the guy so stormcloaks FTW EDIT: as far as the mede dinasty goes, they aren't all without their merit especially titus mede II who is/was the current ruling emperor (depending on how far you've progressed into the dark brotherhood quest line) in fact titus mede II seens to be a fairly decent ruler but he was set up for failure due to general instability in the continent that started way before his rule so it's not like he's a shit emperor, he just got dealt a losing hand EDIT 2: as for skyrim being self suficient, well... i'm not so sure that they are but they are a pretty big player in trades, if high rock (likely) follows suit and peaces out of the empire then skyrim has pretty much 2 to 3 trade partners literally bording it (hammerfell, high rock, and orsinium) and honestly those 4 provinces have a pretty decent shot at starting their own alliance, they all hate the dominion, they're all soured by the white-gold concordat, they have relatively little bad blood among them, hammerfell orsinium and high rock once made up the "daggerfall covenant" way back in th days of ESO and were an alliance built on a prosperous relationship and mutual benefit, skyrim would only add to that as for dealings with black marsh, i find it unlikely as the folk from argonia seen pretty cozy down in their swamps and haven't made big plays since leaving the empire (outside of the instance where they rekt southern morrowind for revenge) plus they are far AF from skyrim so they likely wouldn't go out of their way to establish trade relations morrowind is a weird one, they kinda owe skyrim some props for helping them out after the red year, the high king literally gave solstheim to them just because it was the nice thing to do, the borders were largely opened for refugees and outside of windhelm the dunmer don't seen to have it too bad out there on the other hand nords and dunmer really fucking hate one another from way back when, morrowind is only with the empire because the old agreement with tiber septim essentially says "morrowind is part of the empire but gets to go about it's business as if it wasn't" so morrowind is only a part of the empire on paper, on practice they've been doing their own thing since the beginning of the third era and would likely just shut off relations with everyone if shit hits the fan, they seemed to get by just fine by themselves, with the helping hand of some friendly argonian slave labor but the big thing is that morrowind and black marsh are incredibly unlikely to become active enemies of a free skyrim at this time, they have no reason to join the ranks of the imperial legion in an effort to retake skyrim, the dunmer are really into daedra worship and the dominion is really against that stuff so morrowind isn't going to allly with the dominion, and black marsh is just a generally isolated place with very undesirable territory and of little military significance outside of maybe a staging post for invading cyrodill or morrowind, but morrowind itself is pretty undesirable as well so the real use of black marsh is to invade cyrodill which is empire territory anyway so no other province would be bothered to give half a skeever's ass about an invasion, especially if it came from black marsh which is geographically so far from any other province that it presents about zero threat of eventually engaging with anyone other than cyrodill
@lordcommissar7813
5 жыл бұрын
All is well put but I'd like to add that in the past elders scrolls games all the guilds were cannon even if it ment some other person did it they fill the roles by saying stuff like the arch mage or leader of the fighters guild. My point is that would mean the dark brotherhood where you kill the emperor will be cannon too even if it's not the dragon born that did it the lore will say a member of the dark brother hood did
@cajunpeople
4 жыл бұрын
Tldr
@jazlynstorm9772
4 жыл бұрын
Damn
@shmorble
7 жыл бұрын
Think of this Civil War like the American Revolution. Some band of only farmers and poorly trained soldiers without proper equipment defeat the Empire. Now, you're thinking, "The Americans won because they had Spain and France helping them." That's correct, and that's also where Hammerfell comes in. Hammerfell allies with the Stormcloaks, a weak but effective alliance mind you, and now the Stormcloaks have an entire country on their side. Now, you're thinking, "Another reason the Americans won is because they had an ocean between them and the British, meaning it took longer for soldiers and supplies to come in." And that's where the geography of Skyrim comes in. No major attack force could move through the mountains that surrounds Skyrim. Or, at least, it would take to long. They Stormcloaks could simply pick off and attack force by hiding within the mountain near all the trails. Also, if an Imperial or High Elf navy was to go to the Ghost Sea, well, they probably wouldn't get there. Considering the High Elves would have to go past Hammerfell, and since Hammerfell is an ally, the would attack these fleets. They would also stop anyone going to Skyrim through part of the south, southwest. and northwest. Also, the Black Marsh might also ally with the Stormcloaks. They might not be a total ally, but one that's on standby during an evasion.
@joeytoofly5139
6 жыл бұрын
Ethan Gowers hammerfell has no reason to allign itself with skyrim I also don't think ulfric would ally even if hammerfell offered. He's too proud and stubborn
@juicesauce5672
6 жыл бұрын
Hammerfell had it's own problems with the Thalmor and it is highly likely they would join forces.
@HumanOfPrey
5 жыл бұрын
1) Did you know the Redguards and Nords fought against each other during War of Bend'r-Mahk some 600 years ago? Hammerfell just experienced Haymon Camoran or the Camoran Usurper taking advantage of the disunity between the Crowns and Forebears to invade the weakened Hammerfell. After the Camoran Usurper's invasion, the further weakened Hammerfell faced the Nords from Skyrim. The Crowns and Forebears was too caught up with their hatred for each other to face the Nords properly. It ended up with Elinhir and half of Dragonstar captured by Skyrim. So if you think Hammerfell is going to step in and help Skyrim, you're mistaken. One more thing, the Redguards signed a peace treaty with the Dominion (Second Treaty of Stros M'Kai) and they won't break that treaty just because Skyrim "asked" them. 2) Skyrim was once a falmer land, then it was invaded by the akaviri, by the nords and by the imperials. The Dominion can do the same with ease.
@easybakeovens309
5 жыл бұрын
The next ESO game is in hammerfell. You're right.
@Poledo
7 жыл бұрын
Just a basic question to all of you Stormcloack supporters: If the Empire couldn't beat the Aldmeri Dominion with Skyrim and Hammerfell on its side, what makes you think that Skyrim alone can stan its ground? Cold is not a problem for elves since there are LOTS of troops in Skyrim already and Skyrim would probably have to fight against both Empire and High Elves. While making Talos worshipping illegal is a bad thing, if you are losing you need a tactical retreat: that's just what it is, a temporary solution. Nords are not the best fighters neither the best magic users, those titles respectively go to Redguards and the High Elves; the College of Winterhold is in shambles so no help from that. And let's talk about that topic which is so fun: Ulfric slaughtering the High King. "But it was a fair fight". No it wasn't. Ulfric using the power of the voice in a duel is like a man bringing a gun to a stick fight! I don't see much "honor" in this man. Some of you will say that if you support the Stormcloacks they have the dragon born on their side. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Why? Let's analyze the ending for the Dragonborn DLC: the dragonborn kills Miraak and Hermeus Mora just lets him go away? I don't think so. (Some other youtuber actually analyzed this theory so go search for it) It's quite possible that the dragonborn is the new "prisoner", so no vantage for the Stormcloacks. You know what would be the easiest way? Skyrim TALKING to the Empire and getting their forces together to wipe out the Thalmors, but Ulfric's hot head could not think about that. I'm pretty dure that if Skyrim has the strength to beat the Thalmors the Empire would come to bargain (Dorumammu). I just feel that Stormcloacks are disorganized. Fighting a Civil War is very much different than fighting a full on war between to realms. In the end the Empire is destined to fall, but should it really fall under the Thalmor? The Thalmor would get hold of the biggest province of Tamriel. At that point Skyrim would be fucked anyways, because the Thalmor wouldn't let the Nords go because of Talos worshipping they'll probably keep going to war with them until they wipe out all the Nords, and they will win. Skyrim can become independent when it's not threatened by a much stronger force. While the state of civil war is good for the Thalmor, also Ulfric's victory is good for them you know? I just stated that if the Empire WITH his allies couldn't win, probably all of them divided will surely perish. I'm done.
@kazumablackwing4270
7 жыл бұрын
Edoardo Poletti actually, it was fair combat. as far as an independent skyrim vs the dominion...hammerfell did it. not to mention Skyrim has geographic and resource advantages...and short of conquering the empire first, the dominion has no land route into skyrim
@Poledo
7 жыл бұрын
Hammer fell did it, but the Redguards are the best warriors of Tamriel. Geographic advantages are a plus yes, but there are already lots of Thalmor troops inside Skyrim, holding forts and whatnot, making them quite useless in most cases. Lastly if the Stormcloacks beat the Imperials in the civil war, the Empire is probably going to unite forces with the Thalmor to take Skyrim back and punish the transgressors, they don't need to conquer Cyrodiil to get into Skyrim, the Empire MUST to let them trough.
@harleymitchelly5542
7 жыл бұрын
Switzerland managed to deter both the Nazis and Italians with: 1. Their natural fortress of a country. 2. A militia that was fairly well armed and trained, but with some of the most die-hard soldiers around, told to reject any news of surrender as enemy propaganda. 3. Common knowledge of guerrilla tactics and how to properly fight a guerrilla war. Stormcloak Skyrim is a very good allegory to Switzerland. You have a die-hard militia, knowledge of guerrilla warfare, and both natural and man-made defenses dotting the landscape. By all means, the Stormcloaks would win, if for no other reason than the total extermination of the Nords would be required, and that in and of itself would prompt moral outrage generating more and more rebellion.
@harleymitchelly5542
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Actually, Hitler had a very strong motivation given his political leanings. Not only did Switzerland have a sizable Jewish population and was a frequent stop for fleeing Jews, Germany wanted to annex the German cantons like they defied the military restrictions put upon the Rhineland, and annexed the Sudetenland, and the German areas of Austria and Hungary. Further weakening your point, Germany did draft invasion plans, and continued espionage efforts past 1942. In the intelligence report Kleine Orientierrungsheft Schweiz (Concise Reference Work Switzerland), they continued to analyze the Swiss resistance, and invasion plans were drafted in late 1943 by SS General Hermann Bohme and would have been executed in the summer of 1944 were it not for the D-Day invasion. Even earlier, in 1940, invasion plans were drafted and presented by Captain Otto Wilhelm von Menges of the German General Staff to the Army High Command, split into the German attack and the Italian attack. Plans continued to be refined all throughout the war, all referencing the will of the average Swiss man to pick up his rifle and fight to the last if need be, one report different from the last two going so far as to say that even though the Swiss army per se was not 100% mobilized, Germany should proceed as if that were the case. Switzerland had no value eh? History disagrees. Germany was planning an invasion for some time, clearly they had value worth fighting for, and an invasion would have happened if the Allies did not invade France beforehand. Citation, in as close to APSA format in a comment: Halbrook, Stephen P. 2003 “Citizens in Arms: The Swiss Experience” Texas Review of Law and Politics 8: 142-172 Found in EBSCO.
@harleymitchelly5542
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Then why are you objecting? The original point was that the Stormcloaks will win because they must be eradicated, and to do so is prohibitively expensive, just like an Axis invasion of Switzerland.
@dankley9969
7 жыл бұрын
would be cool of you could raise an army from all the guilds you lead in skyrim and take cities for your own
@dankley9969
7 жыл бұрын
the fallout new vegas hoover dam battle option basically
@nedzolepi7878
7 жыл бұрын
I think that a Stormcloak victory would isolate High Rock from The rest of the Empire(Cyrodill) and would make a Thalmor invasion much easier. Either way the Stormcloaks must cooperate with the Empire to stay alive even if they do win. So an Empirial victory benefits everyone.
@michelescorner9908
7 жыл бұрын
Ainsley Harriot Did You Watch MrRhexx Video If Not Watch It I Also Agree With Your Point
@nedzolepi7878
7 жыл бұрын
Michele's Corner I did watch Rhexx's video. ☺
@secondandonly8032
7 жыл бұрын
Ainsley Harriot LONG LIVE THE EMPORER
@justnoob8141
7 жыл бұрын
Ainsley Harriot or? Ally with Hammerfell? Black Muscle + Beer Muscle? Not strong? How about...... ally with dragon?
@nedzolepi7878
7 жыл бұрын
Just Noob An alliance with Hammerfell can be seen from miles away. I'm more co concerned about the fate of the Imperial provinces. The Argonians and Dunmer dislike the Nords and the dragons are exticnt after Alduin's death. So your point is invalid.
@deathdog1392
Жыл бұрын
Idc, it's cannon that the Dragonborne sides with the Stormcloaks. The Dragonborne met Ulfric while arrested, Ulfric uses the Voice, you are clearly meant to follow stormcloak after the dragon. Nord is default race. They clearly had written it that the Dragonborne was meant to side with the Stormcloaks. If it's not that way in ESO 6 I'm gonna be mad because it's an obvious retcon.
@dutchpatriot17
Жыл бұрын
You clearly don't know what either canon or retcon means, lmfao.
@8baller10
7 жыл бұрын
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!!!
@Vekhelven
7 жыл бұрын
8baller10 no Skyrim belongs to the gourds.
@Haugys
7 жыл бұрын
Skyrim belonged to the snow elves, the nords stole it from them basically. So even if the imperials are doing the same thing (which they aren't) they would kinda deserve it.
@Vekhelven
7 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dan no they earned it from right of conquest. The snow elves attacked the ancient altmoran city and and killed everyone but three altmoran. If the imperials one then it's there's if they lose its the Stormcloaks.
@Itsprincesweets
6 жыл бұрын
Dirty Dan stole? You never even watched a single lore vid ever lol
@Itsprincesweets
6 жыл бұрын
Furshnor yeh but its atmoran, your confused with altmer
@mitori
7 жыл бұрын
your video convinced me that i should side with the empire.
@ДениславПетров-е6д
7 жыл бұрын
mitori Because you were with them before that imperial dog
@jameslegrand848
7 жыл бұрын
mitori it's the best choice to be honest.
@fmwr1397
7 жыл бұрын
James Legrand Ehh no. Did you not watch the video?
@marting4089
7 жыл бұрын
Empire strong, Stormcloak Weak, Thalmor stronger
@brockly7916
7 жыл бұрын
GENER CAP bitch please.....
@Akkarin-wq8rr
7 жыл бұрын
No, it's more like Thalmor : Nazis
@brockly7916
7 жыл бұрын
Akkarin0815 agreed.. ʕ •ᴥ•ʔ
@marting4089
7 жыл бұрын
Akkarin0815 Exept that the Empire (Pétain) aren't evil, but weak, and the rebellion make them even weaker.
@davidaxelsson1239
7 жыл бұрын
The only way I can think of a victory against the Aldmeri Dominion is a unified front. Different independent countries would make easier targets to take control over one by one. If the combined forces of the empire just barely forced back the thalmor offensive, Skyrim alone would never be able to hold back a full on invasion. The argument with Hammerfell pretty much falls short considering that there really never was a full invasion that aimed to take all control of that region.
@christophercharles1937
7 жыл бұрын
I choose Stormcloak because its their home Obviously
@TheGamingVillas
6 жыл бұрын
Me I always sided with the Stormcloaks when I sided with the Blades. Considering under the Empire the Blades seem to be open season for Thalmor Justiciars.
@dutchpatriot17
6 жыл бұрын
The Blades themselves support the Empire though.
@celan4288
6 жыл бұрын
Somebody actually sides with the Blades?
@TheGamingVillas
6 жыл бұрын
Celan obviously
@RavingNutter
7 жыл бұрын
*Grabs popcorn and scrolls the comment section.
@WitcherGerd
4 жыл бұрын
All the elves have in Skyrim is a small fort and an emissary containing a small army which is badly enough to occupy the 4th largest kingdom in Tamriel.
@Astialo
7 жыл бұрын
If the Empire had not signed the White Gold Concordat, the Empire would have been destroyed by the Aldmeri Dominion. (Or atleast, conquered.)
@sandwichman1490
7 жыл бұрын
Dragon Lord Frost Scythe Yeah yeah, but if The Dominion wins, what next? Oh cool! You have a bunch of land you don't know what to do with? You also have most likely countless dead bodies someone has to clean up? Oh that's your problem now. I just don't really see much benefit from destroying the empire
@Astialo
7 жыл бұрын
The Dominion is hungry for power, meaning more land, more power. Yeah, that and they also want to eliminate all races of man.
@rodh1404
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not really sure about that. The Aldmeri Dominion lost their major army already at the Battle of the Red Ring, and their other army was already in retreat in Hammerfell. Unless the Elves can replace their losses (which would have been very heavy), they wouldn't have any real army to pursue the war with, so after that the best the AD could hope for is a stalemate. Instead, they won the war on the bargaining table.
@rodh1404
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Sorry, what pocket were they supposed to be hiding that in? There's only ever mention of two major AD armies during the Great War. The army of conquest in Hammerfell, and the delaying army in Cyrodiil. As it turned out, that delaying army encountered a super weak Empire and had astounding success, so they became an army of conquest as well. In fact, they became the army the AD concentrated everything they could on. And that was the army which was destroyed, BTW. So exactly where are you getting this "main army in general" from?
@rodh1404
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn So you're imagining armies for which no evidence exists now? Good luck with that.....
@cosmicwartoad2587
2 жыл бұрын
Del the Argonian's made it her personal mission to get the different porvinces to put their differences aside and unite against the Thalmor ands it's her personal mission to kill all tbe thalmor she can and it was her village that started an uprising and drive the tlamor out and keep Black March independent and neutral
@merchant6562
7 жыл бұрын
It's all good when the elves come the companions are going to enchant more weapons just like wuuthrad
@AmyraCarter
7 жыл бұрын
In truth, I've not had the opportunity to go through the Stormcloak quests, and only once did I take sides. Thing is, NO ONE likes the Aldmeri Dominion, but the Empire is waiting to strike back, whilst the Stormcloaks are less patient. It is more of a Zen vs. Old Age North thing.
@betrayfate9772
6 жыл бұрын
I've only sided with the Empire once to see the dialogue cause I like that shit and i got to say at least Ulfric went down like a true warrior instead of giving up like tullius who only fought because Rikke fought.
@dutchpatriot17
6 жыл бұрын
Tullius didn't want to fight because it'd be fighting a losing battle. Killing Tullius is arguably one of the most idiotic things Ulfric could have done. Tullius was a brilliant general, Ulfric killed him merely because he wanted him dead.
@betrayfate9772
6 жыл бұрын
The Forgotten Hero Still doesn't change my opinion that Ulfric went down like a true warrior.
@TheEnderCorn
6 жыл бұрын
I only sided with the empire was for the armor.
@lorelord2272
5 жыл бұрын
And also, Skyrim is in a very strategic position when it comes to defence. The border of Skyrim and Cyrrodill is very mountainous, so any invasion by the Imperials/Thalmor via the border would be ambushed and defeated swiftly (the same can be said if the Imperials invade via High Rock, which alone is unlikely), and on Skyrim's right side is an already independent province (Morrowind), so the safest way the Imperials or Thalmor could invade is via Skyrim's northern shore, which would take ages to ship troops there and longer still for reinforcements.
@benyosefdrak2686
5 жыл бұрын
Skyrim was conquered before by the Imperials without too much difficulty, don't see why the Dominion can't do it.
@lorelord2272
5 жыл бұрын
@@benyosefdrak2686 Skyrim allowed the empire to annex it during Talos's conquest of Tampons because the Nords respected Talos and saw him as one of their own.
@benyosefdrak2686
5 жыл бұрын
@@lorelord2272 Hmm, still he would have taken Skyrim regardless.
@lorelord2272
5 жыл бұрын
@@benyosefdrak2686 Because he's the dragon born (you make a good point though)
@benyosefdrak2686
5 жыл бұрын
@@lorelord2272 hmm, I wonder how powerful he was compared to Skyrim's Dragonborn.
@darkstepsgames4335
5 жыл бұрын
My High elf character is a stormcloaks soldiers
@markbailey7925
5 жыл бұрын
They hate you secretly there racist
@cjliles8788
7 жыл бұрын
The stormcloaks have a very good reason to fight for what they believe in
@zhanbuenbasmayor1853
7 жыл бұрын
They believed that the Empire is weak, gets massacred by scouts lol.
@aetheriusscrolls3843
7 жыл бұрын
Alderman Xalvador //Kings Council// #Caeronvar and surrendered 3 times
@theinstitutephil2300
3 жыл бұрын
Ulfric is a puppet of the thalmor
@thuledragon6663
7 жыл бұрын
"the empire is a shadow of its former self" no wonder why the emperor was definitely okay with being assassinated besides being able to predict that future.
@aceofspades3805
7 жыл бұрын
1) Has anyone heard of living to fight another day? The empire signed the teaty so they could survive.2) Playing oblivion you see just how much love and devotion the imperials have for Tiber septim/ talos and his blood line and because he is the founder of thier country, god protector, and his blood line reinforced his strength when his heir saved them from the oblivion crisis...My point is that many imperials would of also been against the banning of talos but with their army beaten they had no choice
@heyeat2641
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who’s an imperial who joined the stormcloaks
@james739123
Жыл бұрын
Archer thief, married to Ria, lives in Honeyside, adopted Lucia and Blaise, wears Linwe full set and Zephyr as my bow
@mattmarino-ut4yw
7 жыл бұрын
I always rolled with the stormcloaks because I thought they didn't want talos worship either but as I've looked the stormcloaks wouldn't help the cause. And the empire wants to regain strength and eliminate the dominion
@CarlosJimenez-fi3pl
7 жыл бұрын
The empire is crumbling down just like the western roman empire, and the Aldmeri Dominion knows that the next step for total conquest is weakening the empire even more, so they are helping to cause unrest in imperial provinces like in Skyrim. A prove of this is when you do the thalmor embassy quest there is a dossier that calls Ulfric and his rebellion and asset and even as a last option to contact them and help them out, also the banning of talos worshipping is a strategy to piss of the Nords. I heard that guilds questlines are actually Canon no matter if its the mainplayer or not it just happens, this means Emperor Titus Mede will die during the events of Skyrim causing an internal unrest in the empire. Finally, Skyrim probably will gain its independence along with other provinces and the Aldmeri Dominion will strike in a second great war but this time they will take over cirodiil. They will fight with an independent Skyrim in the North,but the aldmeri has the upperhand, being more organized,powerful,and smarter. It would be cool and would be a very realistic scenario that would be a time now ruled by the elves by the dominion.
@TheSectorM
7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Pretty much have to disagree on most points here, though. If Ulfric wins, Skyrim is then ruled by an acknowledged Thalmor 'asset', and one who doesn't care about other races. The treatment of Dark Elves, Argonians and Khajit, is a pretty clear indicator of how that practice might spread if Ulfric takes the throne. It wouldn't surprise me if the Stormcloaks banished/eliminated the other races. They might even suspend trade with other provinces, which would be a huge mistake. The influx of other races keeps Skyrim from reverting back to a pretty primitive level of technology, which you can see in the more remote areas of the province, like Morthal or Dawnstar. Iron or steel, maybe.Take that with the Nords distrust of magic and the supernatural, and that's pretty much an open door for the Thalmor, who have both advanced technology and magic. Skyrim has neither the population nor the infrastructure to stand alone against the Dominion. It's going to take the combined might of all the remaining provinces to take down the Thalmor.
@MrPsych77
6 жыл бұрын
The Sector M an Uncooperative asset
@TimHoltorf
6 жыл бұрын
I agree, the Thalmor really would like to see Ulfric win the civil war because the Stormcloaks do not have a military system that could take on the Aldmeri Dominion. And the Dominion would encourage the civil war to continue, thus weakening both the Empire and the Stormcloaks. If the Stormcloaks win, they are screwed. Even if the Empire wins the civil war, the Nords are screwed. Skyrim won't be winning no matter who wins the civil war. And while yes, Skyrim would be economically sound, but the Dominion would make sure it would never come to Skyrim becoming independent. And if they do become independent, the Stormcloaks, Ulfric in particular, is hugely racist towards anyone who isn't a nord. In the end, an independent Skyrim would crumble, not through a war with the Dominion, but a Season Unending with the Emprie, supported by the Dominion. Because that's exactly what the Dominion wants.
@willvolkman9234
7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, keep it up
@peryite9979
7 жыл бұрын
Ulfiric Stormcloak by the 9 an imposter!
@willvolkman9234
7 жыл бұрын
Ulfric Stormcloak holy Talos! my long lost brother
@commandergame
7 жыл бұрын
You are not a septim and Talos lived 600 years before you have benn born you are not his brother you blasphemic tahlmor pupet.
@willvolkman9234
7 жыл бұрын
commandergame How am I supposed to take you seriously when you spell thalmor as tahlmor, plus your crumbling empire is abandoning Talos, so don't give me that
@commandergame
7 жыл бұрын
Ulfiric Stormcloak On paper they abondond Talos but in realty they don't give a shit about what is written in the concordat, most imperials still whorship talos (including Tidus Mede) and when you din't had caused the Markhat incident the nord could to without problems. And you should watch what you say you might don't know it anymore but my avatars killed you 3 times already.
@kingreikon2192
7 жыл бұрын
Think about it this way, if the Stormcloaks win, the Dominion would invade Skyrim and cause another war. BUT, the Stormcloaks have Ulfric and the Dragonborn on their side. The Dragonborn saved the world multiple times, the Stormcloaks would still win against the Dominion if the Dragonborn is willing to help (which is very likely). And Ulfric can use the shouts, what if the Dragonborn trained Ulfric on how to use different shouts? Ways the Stormcloaks would lose: If the Dragonborn doesn't help. Ways the Stormcloaks would win: If the Dragonborn helps. There's a lot of possibilities to take into account to determine if the Stormcloaks would beat the Dominion. It's literally a what-if game. You can roleplay to make it where the Dragonborn helps Ulfric take over Tamriel, or you can roleplay it where the Dragonborn doesn't help Ulfric. Once again, it's determined by the player what would happen. Edit: The Stormcloaks WOULD WIN against the Thalmor because of this. If the Dragonborn did indeed do the Dragonborn DLC he could get the help of Hermaeus Mora to find him a way of defeating the Thalmor, like how Hermaeus Mora helped Miraak with the bend will shout. Either way, the Thalmor is defeated no matter who the Dragonborn sides with.
@mr_mike_boyjohn8898
7 жыл бұрын
the stormcloaks racism is what always puts me off siding with them
@doubleaa_02
5 жыл бұрын
Defending your culture and way of life is not racist.
@nickhannah7234
7 жыл бұрын
Look at how Ulfric treated the Forsworn, look at how Ulfric treats citizens of his own city, look at the Stormcloak's universal discrimination towards non-human races, look at how the Thalmor used Ulfric as an asset, look at how pathetic Stormcloak officials are (Silver-bloods, Jarl of Riften, Jarl of Dawnstar) and you will see plenty of reasons as to why I would prefer a united empire to defeat the Aldmeri dominion, which if you listen to Ib-game dialogue is their ultimate goal.
@fireblast133
7 жыл бұрын
Nick Hannah exactly. Beyond that the whole rebellion spark actually came at the end of the forsworn takeover of markarth. Up until that point the Thalmor were not as stringent in policing the outlaw of Talos worship. The empire's agents could simply pretend they don't see Talos worship in any province they control. But that event basically brought the Thalmor to Skyrim. One stupid mistake sparked the seed to grow
@penguindmaster6898
7 жыл бұрын
Nick Hannah hail empire and hail sithis more
@recchisexy3776
7 жыл бұрын
If the empire can't defeat farmers then don't even convince me to join them
@Blurple0
7 жыл бұрын
Recchi Sexy So basically how America couldn't defeat Vietnam?
@Benjamin-sq3gu
7 жыл бұрын
Recchi Sexy If a nation known for its strong and honourable warriors can't defeat a locally recruited legion with barely any heavy armoured cohort then I wouldn't be suprised that Skyrim is fucked up when the Empire is gone.
@ScytheNoire
6 жыл бұрын
The Empire has become tainted by the Thalmor, who have been plotting it's destruction throughout the Elder Scrolls. I see the next game having Ulfric win, Empire crumbling further (with the Emperor assassinated during Skyrim), and the Dominion plotting the final destruction of the Empire. I can see the next game set in Elsweyr, Valenwood, or Summerset, with us playing characters who can either side with and help the radical Thalmor, or work to put an end to the Thalmor and bringing honour back to the Altmer.
@neroidius6915
5 жыл бұрын
Literally the only reason I joined the Stormcloaks was because I wanted the house in Whindelhelm
@quiteindeed6809
7 жыл бұрын
i say ont side with eather, the elfs are the real enemy
@enclavesoldier769
7 жыл бұрын
The Dominion, not the elves
@razzl8219
7 жыл бұрын
Yea, orcs and dummers are not bad
@razzl8219
7 жыл бұрын
For me bosmers are bad, and altmers are devils
@guccicles
7 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the faction that's going to be the ones to defeat the aldmeri dominion will be whichever faction the dragonborn sides with, who knows, maybe in elder scrolls 6 it could turn out regardless who you sided with, the imperials and stormcloaks recombine there forces against the aldmeri dominion, originally I was all for the empire being the best choice, but now I'm having second thoughts, perhaps with the stormcloaks defiance towards the aldmeri dominion, the citizens of cyrodil gain inspiration from them and in turn start there own rebellion against the aldmeri dominion? Or perhaps after the death of Titus mede the 2nd the next emperor may sympathise with the stormcloaks defiance towards the aldmeri dominion and seek to make peace with the stormcloaks against there common enemy?
@phashift9364
6 жыл бұрын
Or, you know, choose neither side and they make a cooperative treaty in the end. That way less resources are wasted, armies still have strength, trade is fine, the empire AND the Stormcloaks could work together to defeat the Dominion.
@phashift9364
4 жыл бұрын
That's under the assumption the missions on the side quest are fun to begin with. The Whiterun battle seems like the only highlight of all the Civil War Quests.
@elpsykoongro5379
4 жыл бұрын
Phashift get open civil war, there is even huge skirmishes that occur in borders, and it’s better if one side wins because that way they can start thinking outside of were they are
@Lolpy.
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a treaty, more like a non-aggression pact until the dragons were gone. Then the war would resume
@TheCrazyPUNKIN
7 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with the stormcloaks is that there is a real lack of vision as far as the future. The stormcloaks destroyed homes of more than just the imperials. They destroyed their own peoples homes and destroyed towns. What country are you going to rule if you destroy and kill everyone in it? The imperials don't like the thalmor and only parter with them so that they can keep skyrim from falling apart. However, the thalmor required that they ban talos worship. This was only temporary, because when the stormcloaks lost, the empire would part ways with the thalmor. The empire cares about talos and wants to keep skyrim safe, but when you have nords that kill the empire that tries to protect their homeland, obviously the empire would retaliate, and when the thalmor attack the stormcloaks, the imperials will not help them because they have no friendship with the same people that killed them. The stormcloaks lack much thought into what the big picture is and the overall wellbeing of skyrim. Which is why the stormcloaks must be rid of so that the true sons of skyrim can worship talos in peace and without thalmor interference
@johnharbinger4637
7 жыл бұрын
you can find out ingame that ulfric is a thalmor sleeper agent. He was tortured and put under control of the thalmor during the war. it spacifically sais stormcloaks winning will weaken the empire enough for the next war
@ChaoticMartian
7 жыл бұрын
yeah sure split the empire for the second war against the dominion, making it a MUCH weaker empire without the nords, and handing skyrim over to a racist that believes that if u ain't a human u don't belong in skyrim. no ulfric is fighting primarily over the worship of Talos, even tho the majority of people do not openly support Talos, there is plenty of evidence to show pretty much every Nord still does but in secret.
@Un4rceable
7 жыл бұрын
What the Stormcloaks don't realize is that the Empire needs them because Skyrim is the empire's sturdy foundation so to speak so if the empire lets the Stormcloaks seceed then it's like their shooting thenselves in the foot because let's face it, the empire is Nordic, everything it represents is Nordic, and without the Nords the empire feels like if they do get into another war they would be losing their biggest friend because throughout the empire's history the Nords have always been there as the man behind them in the shield wall all the way from Talos of Atmora to the Empire-Aldemeri war.
@HasturCarcosaYT
7 жыл бұрын
An independent Skyrim would not have a significantly better chance of victory in the case of a Aldmeri-Skyrim War. Since we established that the Thalmor essentially wants skyrim to withdraw from the empire, why would they allow skyrim to become stronger than they previously were? If the Aldmeri Dominion were to cause the imperials to capitulate, what would prevent them from invading from less secure regions (I.E. Falkreath, The Rift, etc) and use overwhelming forces to break the nord armies?
@tailorbanks3334
6 жыл бұрын
The Empire has 25 legions at the border of valenwood, the emperor has been preparing for another great war
@celan4288
6 жыл бұрын
Good for him. He's also using the legion to oppress his own so-called citizens. Time for Cyrodiil to man up and learn how to play nice with free neighbors, not colonies.
@Hannah-ly9fo
4 жыл бұрын
I would love people's opinion! I want to do a playthrough as a high elf who DOES support the dominion and the Thalmor. Which side do you think would be more 'in character' for such a playthrough? I'm a little bit torn.
@vegannegan4160
7 жыл бұрын
Do you fight for Skyrim, or the glory of a dictator? What's YOUR WINNING TEAM and WHY? 🖒😆🖒
@odds0777
6 жыл бұрын
The DAVE ur mom
@nathancaynor4105
6 жыл бұрын
I fight for a united cyrodiil. Not some racist nords who think “Skyrim is for the nords” maybe my being an atheist makes me not care about the ban on worship to talos, but that’s not enough to make me side with xenophobic nords
@joeytoofly5139
6 жыл бұрын
Skyrim that's why I chose the empire
@skyrimandskuldduggerypleas491
6 жыл бұрын
Empire. The facts are there. I found them. Id still prefer an alliance ending.
@the_blind_hearing6
5 жыл бұрын
@@odds0777 gottem
@Xlen-omega
5 жыл бұрын
And while the war goes on the Thalmor just wait and watch.
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Good so many imperial posters. I am glad to see this and I agree completely There can still be unity against the thalmor without being under the imperial banner. The empire already screwed any chance for unity when they through skyrim and hammerfell under the bus so the best chance for victory is with the stormcloaks
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Compelling argument, Best I have heard from an imperial
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn No it's not, If you pay attention to the story you would know I am right
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn You should try playing skyrim for once. It's clear you haven't.
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn Then you weren't paying attention because if you were you know that the redguards consider the empire to be traitors for giving the dominion some of their land and that they kept fighting even as an independent state. Meaning there is a better chance for a stormcloak alliance than an imperial one with hammerfell
@Kirasupporter1
7 жыл бұрын
Thijs Tharn No they don't. Where did you get that from? The nords control over a few reguard territories happened centuries ago. Do you really think they are going to hold a grudge that long? Especially when the empire screwed them over within about 25 years. I also see redguards on the roads of skyrim going to join the stormcloaks. so I don't buy what you said. The empire is not needed to defeat the dominion, A coalition of independent nations can do the job. We are talking 3E 397 to 4E 201. The redguards will side with the stormcloaks
@ghauld786
6 жыл бұрын
ulfrics racist yeah lol, but the empires been way more systematically racist in the past even in skyrim where theyve clearly ripped away the cultural identity of most nords. So its like a choice between 2 flawed factions but the stormcloaks have more good reasons to fight :p
@dutchpatriot17
6 жыл бұрын
The Empire's not racist, nor do they remove culture. Hell, freedoms of culture and religion are one of the key aspects of the Empire. The Stormcloaks are wrong.
@evzenvarga9707
6 жыл бұрын
If you knew at least the little basis of the TES lore you would know that the empire started in Skyrim.
@nicopiggin9029
5 жыл бұрын
The empire never took away cultural freedom. The Aldmeri Dominion did. Who cares if the storm cloaks have "more reasons" their cause is the worst cause I know of. Starting a whole war over one God like jeez
@crisp9929
5 жыл бұрын
@@nicopiggin9029 A whole war over one God is crazy? Oh boy, wait until you see most of the wars in history
@DangerMike709
6 жыл бұрын
Probably the only educated and critical analysis of this subject on youtube. But ITS TIBER(TIE BER) SEPTIM
@hunterstewart8475
6 жыл бұрын
SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS
@williambriggs4574
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone. To know who would and should win u would have to know war, politics, economics, and many other things, and I'm pretty sure most ppl here including me don't know the strategizing of war, the game of politics, and the math and science of economics we could possibly get even close to knowing who would and should win. I personally prefer the imperials for many reasons and other ppl choose the stormcloaks for many reasons. But I nor them likely know any of the technicalities.
@theunclecappy4846
7 жыл бұрын
Talos is actually 3 people who became one divine: Tiber Septim, Hjalti Earlybeard, and Zurin Arctus.
@DarkKnightofThrones
7 жыл бұрын
If Ulfric had asked High King Torygg to declare independence, he would have done it! He greatly respected Ulfric. But Ulfric MURDERED him. And as far as "honor" goes...see what High King Torygg, himself, has to say about it, when you meet him...in Sovngarde! So I say this: Down with Ulfric, the killer of Kings, on the day of your death we will drink and we'll sing...we're the children of Skyrim, and we fight all our lives. And when Sovngarde beckons, every one of us dies!
@zacharyreist6605
7 жыл бұрын
Long live the Empire!
@Itsprincesweets
6 жыл бұрын
Zachary Reist gg
@thatpatrioticfucker2309
6 жыл бұрын
U dont kno dey wae
@sedgenova
6 жыл бұрын
I think I should say this. For anyone who says Ulfric is totally okay for using his voice in the fight with Torygg, that’s absolutely bullshit. Understand that he learned THE WAY OF THE VOICE. The Greybeards teach those the way in order to use the Thu’um in a peaceful manner. Ulfric went with the greybeards AFTER the Great War. It was only when his father died he took up the mantle. Ulfric was completely in the wrong for essentially breaking the tradition of the way of voice.
@TheParadox116
7 жыл бұрын
I like stormcloack are my fav honestly always pick the stormcloaks
@GuidoRowe
5 жыл бұрын
As I am currently taking GCSE history, we are studying Weimar and Nazi Germany. The political / social situation are very similiar to that in Skyrim. The White Gold Concordat signifying the Treaty of Versailles, The Empire representing the failing Weimar government and the Stormcloak rebellion representing the uprisings and the Nazis that the Weimar Republic had to deal with. Excited for ES's 6
@dutchpatriot17
5 жыл бұрын
I'd argue against that. The Weimar Republic was not planning on ever fighting back against the treaty; the Empire, however, is.
@GuidoRowe
5 жыл бұрын
@@dutchpatriot17 Thats true, I think the main similarity is still the opposition to the Empire (Weimar Republic) whether or not they supported the White-Gold concordat. However you could argue that in Temriel, the empire is grudgingly accepting the concrodat by upholding its terms and not openly opposing it, but we still see a lot of Imperials unhappy with the Aldmeri Dominion.
@dudle7613
7 жыл бұрын
Ok. Let me just settle this all out and lay everything out on the table. I'm going to be outlining the reason why I think an Imperial victory would be best for Skyrim: I think the best place to start would be the Great War. Ulfric Stormcloak had been studying the thu'um with the greybeards up on High Hrothgar beforehand, and used the thu'um in battle. The end of the war came because the Empire was being ravaged by the Thalmor and didn't want to be completely obliterated, and thus surrendered. The Thalmor held all the cards at the treaty discussion and could ask for whatever they wanted. They decided to essentially take over Skyrim and Hammerfell by literally taking Hammerfell, and controlling most decisions made in Skyrim. They outlawed Talos worship because they knew it would weaken Skyrim and the Empire, allowing them to just walk in and use the troops already patrolling Skyrim searching for Talos worshippers to take over Skyrim easily, but even if the Thalmor weren't allowed in Skyrim their army is huge, and could just take Skyrim easily, seeing as the Empire would be in a civil war and couldn't take two enemies at once. They want Ulfric alive because dead the stormcloaks would have no one to lead them, but with the Empire, you can kill the Emperor himself and the Empire would still fight. If you kill Ulfric, you end the civil war. If you end the civil war, and even a few former Stormcloaks join the Legion, you have a bigger force to challenge the Thalmor, and also their plan for perpetual war fails. As for outlawing Talos worship, 1: even Legate Rikke is a Talos worshipper, and 2: if the Empire challenges the Thalmor as a unified nation, they might be able to withdraw Thalmor justiciars and then push harder to re-legalise Talos worship, but only if the rebellion ends. Even if the Stormcloaks do win, as soon as Ulfric dies, Skyrim will be swallowed up by the Empire or the Thalmor. I agree with the whole honourable fight with Torryg thing, but in using a thu'um, Ulfric goes against the philosophy of the Greybeards, who believe that the thu'um should never be used in war. He also breaks the philosophy of the Greybeards in literally using the thu'um in warfare. Ulfric is also a racist, more so than the other Jarls, in barring not just the Kajiit caravans, but also Argonians, and sectioning off the dark elves to the Grey Quarter (which is exactly what Hitler did to the jews before sending them off to the concentration camps). All in all I think that the Stormcloaks would not be a good choice of victors of the civil war.
@BACKWOODSSAMURAI
6 жыл бұрын
Spent 16 minutes here not even understanding what's being talked about just to find out what side to choose lmao
@vegannegan4160
7 жыл бұрын
Everybody says that the Stormcloaks are the worse team to join because they'd lose a war to the high elves. THAT'S CRAP!!! YOUR THE FREAKING DRAGONBORN!!! YOU ALONE COULD KILL THOSE ELVES!!! RESTART YOUR GAME IMMEDIATELY AND JOIN THE STORMCLOAKS!!! 😤
@vegannegan4160
7 жыл бұрын
Jackalack313 M, That is true. Tis up to everyone which team wins in the Civil War. I'm just advising everyone to join the one that's best for Skyrim. 🖒😆🖒
@memes-px7wi
6 жыл бұрын
The DAVE well they are. As usual. You missing the point.
@MultiGreenwood
6 жыл бұрын
So Skyrim remains independent for the rest of the dragonborns lifetime? More or less 80 years, then Skyrim would get run over by the thalmor
@jakestewart8703
6 жыл бұрын
MultiGreenwood They would have 80 years to prepare I guess
@leonardovangogh2098
6 жыл бұрын
why does no one understand the in the canon that the dragonborn doesn't choose a side only main quest line and maybe dragonborn dlc is canon
@gabekovach2053
6 жыл бұрын
Even if Ulfric won the war there is still an army of imperials waiting on the other side of the boarder to come end Ulfric.
@NiceLeonLion
6 жыл бұрын
they actually do , watch imperial knowledges video
@Whiteknight23495
3 жыл бұрын
Both sides have great ideas how to defeat the aldmerian dominion one is using the build and bide and aline with the provinces that are trying to Throw a koo from behind the thalmer’s lines while making them think their following the white gold concordant (imperials) the other wants to divide and fight using one raise the problem is it’s highly raises Ulfric wants Skyrim to be nothing but nords which wouldn’t except any other raise that wants to fight aldimer ( Stormcloak)
@ffflustered9qr
5 жыл бұрын
Some Skyrim players (no one in this comments--I just mean in general) have criticized the Civil War for being a bit bland but the comments on this video BEG to differ. The issue of how to defeat the Aldmeri Dominion and which faction is "right" or "wrong" is surprisingly complicated. The Empire is more equitable and racially diverse, has more lands and nations, and has more potential to be a strong monolith against the Thalmor (if they get their shit together obviously), but they underestimate Skyrim and its culture, are fraying at the seams, and were forced to roll over for the Concordat. On the other hand, the Stormcloaks are passionate, have great potential to be martially strong, are rightfully outraged about their religious rights, and have more charismatic leaders, but are also often blindly nationalistic (nationalism=/= racism, but it's a slippery slope), distrust magic too much, and might be a bit short-sighted. I don't intend to preach to the choir here; I just know that it's easy to see this in a binary. I guess we won't know which is "right" until we see where ES6 is at.
@dutchpatriot17
5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't sayt the Empire underestimates Nord culture; they dishonor less of it than the Stormcloaks do. The Stormcloaks are not rightfully outraged, as they are responsible for their ''religious rights'' being stomped on by the Thalmor. Also, the Stormcloaks, especially their higher ups, are racist.
@gokuson5480
5 жыл бұрын
I seen people make a lot of votes for Imperials or Stormcloaks and I saw two internets of the votes saying Stormcloaks have higher percentage of voting but I would join the Stormcloaks but I don't know about the Imperials I still really need an answer to know which one to join.
@saulusje
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry this is late, but Jesus christ. Most players probs became the leader of every Guild. DB for assasinations against the AD, TG for sabotage etc, CoW for teaching magic, Comp for just plain strength. And, I doubt the Greybeards wants to get destroyed by the AD, so they'll probs help in battle and help defend, or atleast teach a few people the Thu'um. Also, Skyrim has a lot of wildlife and Giants. The Stormcloaks could possibly tame them. They also have the Dragonborn at their side, and the DB can spawn a few dragons, he/she can just teach the Thu'um too, etc etc. Skyrim also has good natural defenses. There are probs a few things I forgot, but you get the point.
@rayngenshin7070
3 жыл бұрын
WHY YOU SHOULD SIDE WITH THE EMPIRE: docs.google.com/document/d/1ZKCSw_pzDkRbgftQ9iSBNHmACR17JIMucgsuUbGxP38/edit?usp=sharing
@funnydepressive32
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, Ulfric was set loose by the Thalmor to be used as a puppet to destabilise the Empire by causing the Civil War in Skyrim... A victory for the Stormcloaks is EXACTLY what the Thalmor want. A united Empire is the only way to defeat the Dominion. So no, you're absolutely wrong.
@ricetrea8736
6 жыл бұрын
the reason why the white gold concordo was made cus the emperor at that time he did not have enough men to fully retake cyrodil so it was made
@AlexanderTheOkay214
3 жыл бұрын
If Stormcloak rebellion wins you should know that you did what Aldmeri dominion wanted, and General Tullius said it before his death. Everyone knows that Ulfric deserved death, in every medieval society treason was punished by execution, yet Ralof complains that there was no trial. Besides apparently all Stormcloak generals are stupid enough to not realise that when the empire falls there will be nothing to stop the Dominion, which again, Tullius knows very well. At the very beginning when carriage arrives at Helgen we can see Elenven talking to Tullius, about freeing Ulfric, because obviously they want the war to last, the best option is either killing Ulfric or organizing the peace council.
@perfectpREdAtori
3 жыл бұрын
Was about to say this.
@kadesjunkdrawer2233
3 жыл бұрын
Look what happened in hammerfell. and also It wasn't treason to kill the High King, it was important to show how weak skyrim really was.
@AlexanderTheOkay214
3 жыл бұрын
@@kadesjunkdrawer2233 The murder of the High King weakened Skyrim even further.
@kadesjunkdrawer2233
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTheOkay214 I disagree. it was cutting out the rot. nothing was lost when he died
@AlexanderTheOkay214
3 жыл бұрын
@@kadesjunkdrawer2233 Except for the relative peace between Skyrim and Empire, Empire did not give a single fuck if Nords were worshipping Talos or not, as long as Thalmor couldn't see it it was fine, now that the king is dead and the Skyrim is at war the entire province has become a Thalmor playground, they can control anything. Tell me please who was supplying Ulfric with arms and armor? The Thalmor obviously. Who wanted to bail out Ulfric to keep the war going? Thalmor. Who did not know that the Thalmor are controlling the war? Ulfric. Who knew? Tullius. Who knew that after the civil war in Skyrim it would be the great war all over again? Tullius. What i want to say is that the Stormcloaks have a very unhealthy mindset of focusing on the present instead of looking into future that the Imperials do have. After the civil is over and stormcloaks win and Thalmor stops supplying them with weapons tell me please how long do you think they would hold off the Dominion ?
@coreydemery4710
7 жыл бұрын
Although, you're argument is valid, I believe that Skyrim leaving the Empire is the biggest slap in the face to Talos. Talos was man raised in Skyrim and united Tamriel under one Banner. I believe Tidus Mead the Second ordered the death of himself to unify Tamriel under a new ruler. one who would not stand for The elves controlling the empire. He signed the White Gold Concordant to end the war and save countless lives as well as the Empire that Talos created. During the Dark Brotherhood questline he knew an assassin was coming for him. but why? The Dark Brotherhood was in ruins during the Events of Skyrim. And the Morang Tong had no footing in skyrim...How did he know an assassin was coming for him? Unless he conspired in his own death to unite Tamriel under a younger more ambitious ruler. The Altmeri Dominion wants skyrim weak in order to invade. Knowing that the last Stonghold of the Dark Brotherhood was in skyrim Tidus Mead the Second ordered one of his underlings to perform the Dark sacrament to end his life while he made a visit . If Ulfic and his Stormcloaks won, the Altmeri Dominion would invade too quickly for them to organize and sieze Skyrim. The Empire must persist. The Emire must not fall. Long live the Empire.
@coreydemery4710
7 жыл бұрын
Also; the dominion knew that Ulfric would start a rebellion. That's why he was allowed to "escape" or rather set free. the Dominion wants this rebellion so the empire would be occupied dealing with that.
@ImposterMonarch
7 жыл бұрын
The thalmor are actually good because just look at the statue of talos, hes stabbing a snake, the incarnation of shor, the god talos is thought to be related too, he is not a nord, hes not even an atmoran, hes a BRETON
@arcadiomedsimplelife
5 жыл бұрын
Aldmeri dominion vs 3 dragonborns (you, myrak and call of valor) + All dragons (due to the defeat of alduin and the bendwill shout) + The support of all daedric gods and artifacts + blessings of all 9 divines/support (10 if the differ between akatosh and auriel) + Stormcloaks + Blades (whether your supported by the dragons or not both have a common enemy) + Ulfric and his way of the voice + Your fellow companions and Skall support + every hold in Skyrim + allegiance with hammerfell + the Brotherhood + Grey beards + every orc hold ( if your an orc or chosen by them ) + the power of the Elder scrolls and prophecy + All mage support in Skyrim ( due to your title of arch mage ) + All wood elves and with that all the animals of Skyrim + Vampires ( just serana and valerica) + All dwarves knowledge and artifacts + Nightingale and thieves guild support + Your wife and children + All Your exclusive and obtainable powers + Any and all summons or reanimations + any and all who are condescended and betrayed by thalmor rule + werewolves + whatever is left of the empire at that point. It’s obvious who takes this L
@arcadiomedsimplelife
5 жыл бұрын
And werebears lol
@benyosefdrak2686
5 жыл бұрын
It is obvious. The Dominion would win. Everything you said is still pathetic compared to the might of the Dominion. Also the Bosmer wouldn't join you, they are part of the Dominion. It's the Dominion That has all Bosmer and all the animals to fight for them plus the wild hunt. Not to mention all of the Kahjiit.
@arcadiomedsimplelife
5 жыл бұрын
Benyosef Drak what might ? Green skin and blond hair ?
@benyosefdrak2686
5 жыл бұрын
@@arcadiomedsimplelife it's golden skin! GOLDEN! Also, the might I was speaking of is them beating the Empire which consisted of all the Human nations.
@douglasmurphy1113
7 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a 3rd option in the civil war, To have the ability to say "fuck you" to both sides, wipe out both the Imperials and the stormcloaks, and assert yourself as the High King. Both sides of the war suck and belong underneath the boot of the Dragonborn
@Whiteknight23495
3 жыл бұрын
The civil war in Skyrim is really a question which strategy is best for Tamriel again the aldmeri dominion empires koo or Ulfric’s
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