The best feature of a display like this is that it doesn't come with all the malware that TVs ship with these days.
@FuzzyElf
2 жыл бұрын
You can build your own! :-)
@ozordiprince9405
Жыл бұрын
Malware & spyware
@sagichdirdochnicht4653
Жыл бұрын
I'd highly recommend installing pi-hole. I installed it like 3 weeks ago. Never seen a single Ad on the Tv. But the amount of requests that get blocked is just nuts.
@kakurerud7516
Жыл бұрын
What allot of people dont realize is that consumer TVs are actually subsidized to include this.
@Lowmandavis
Жыл бұрын
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 how install this on a smart tv?
@PaulGrayUK
2 жыл бұрын
The lengths you go to buy a Raspberry Pi these days. Shucking TV's for RPi's may become a thing :).
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking of saying that, but there are a few cheaper ways-not by much, but still... I'll talk about those next week ;)
@Nobe_Oddy
2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAAA!!!!! - At least you have a cool display to tinker with after you get that CM4 you've been looking for :D
@amirpourghoureiyan1637
2 жыл бұрын
wonder if it'd work with other CM4 compatible boards like Banana Pi's new compute module
@akyhne
2 жыл бұрын
But can the display play back 4K Dolby Vision video, with True HD, or DTS-HD-MA audio? My TV can, from my (RPI4) Plex server, in direct playback mode. Or from Disney Plus etc. Probably not.
@tombyrer1808
2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling Good to hear! Because Pis are now 2-3x MSRP :(
@gannas42
2 жыл бұрын
When we were up for our last TV purchase I was blown away that there are no "dumb" TVs available anymore. It's almost like these companies are selling our usage data and greed is making their decisions for them. /s Thanks for the intro to this concept. I think this is pretty cool stuff and I like the concept of knowing what code is running on equipment that I own.
@hellterminator
2 жыл бұрын
Selfishly, I actually kinda like it. The prices are heavily subsidized by companies like Netflix and Amazon who pay the manufacturers for including dedicated buttons on the remotes and selling them usage data, so I get it much cheaper and then I just connect it to my HTPC and never use any of that crap (hell, I don't even connect the TV to the Internet).
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Just have to make sure the TV doesn't also have an always-on microphone or camera!
@Smelly1sam
2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling 1984 was a manual for some of these TVs
@gannas42
2 жыл бұрын
@@hellterminator I thought a similar approach would work well for us until the built-in "smart" software started crashing regularly. It's frustrating to have a TV that works fine as a display but keeps being kneecapped by the computer inside it. The dedicated buttons on the remote are annoying as any accidental press will exit the input it was on. It also doesn't help that those dedicated buttons take up a majority of the remote faceplate, increasing odds they will be accidentally pressed. Almost like it is intentional... Own nothing and like it? No thanks, not for me.
@hellterminator
2 жыл бұрын
@@gannas42 Well, that sucks. My TV doesn't crash. And I don't even use the remote - the only thing I need the TV to do is turn on and off and my HTPC handles that through CEC.
@BenjaminSeuser
2 жыл бұрын
We had these at my previous job, and they didn’t actually last longer than off the shelf standard consumer TVs. They basically lasted a bit past their 3 year warranty and started having backlight issues. They were run 24/7 as signage displays and had plenty of airflow around them. Meanwhile, there are several consumer model TVs that preexisted my employment there (more than 5 years ago) that are run 24/7 for the same purpose (meeting room listings, and digital signage) that are still running today
@BBWahoo
2 жыл бұрын
What did you work as? Sounds like an interesting job, these TV's fascinate me, so installing/troubleshooting them sounds meaningful
@BigBrother1993
Жыл бұрын
We started building our own totems from cheap LCDs, cheaper, easy to replace the monitor and the computer could be bespoke
@Defiant031636
2 жыл бұрын
It would be great if TV operating systems were more open along with the hardware, this has such modular setup potential. Imagine if you could wipe away 5-10 year old samsung/lg/whatever OS on older TVs and install a fresh lightweight linux option, would give them a lot more life and usefulness (or even just swap out the SoC). With big TVs like this there are lots of options for modular hardware, something like the bigger Intel NUC compute element could easily slot into one of these and be a powerhouse home theater option, hell the TV itself could be the home plex server...
@mod4rchive
2 жыл бұрын
Samsung OS is actually one of the best. The problem with smart tv is they use garbage SoCs
@WalterMan
2 жыл бұрын
@@mod4rchive not the new Samsung OS’s, it’s filled with ads and a very clunky ui
@anon_y_mousse
2 жыл бұрын
@@mod4rchive As someone who has a circa 2009 Samsung TV, if they're one of the best, then all the rest must be the worst garbage in town. Even when it was brand new it was slow and hyper annoying. Especially when bad signal caused it to lockup, sometimes until you pull the power cord.
@GSBarlev
2 жыл бұрын
Of of the manufacturers--I want to say TCL--was very up-front about the fact that it actually costs more these days to sell a "dumb" TV than a Smart TV, because the latter will be subsidized by the expected user data collection revenue. That is to say, these is zero incentive for anyone to make an open OS TV, as it would be even more expensive to cater to the (sadly) extremely niche audience of folks who want smart devices but care about privacy or moddability.
@ArunG273
2 жыл бұрын
They will not allow it because you will keep using it and won't buy new TVs.
@ran_red
2 жыл бұрын
2:20 made me lol "Not all of these displays run on a Pi" and shows BSOD. Well played.
@Trashinated
28 күн бұрын
This aged very well.
@phreakygbg
2 жыл бұрын
The reason that you can use your remote is its using a CEC module to talk to the Pi. is a communications protocol built into the HDMI standard allowing CEC-enabled HDMI devices to exchange information and send/receive control messages.
@hiteck007
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that, it's handy to know going forward.
@foxinrot
2 жыл бұрын
5:41 about the remote working, as it's showing in the top right of the screen it's using cec or consumer electronics control, this is a protocol to have the display communicate with the connected device (the pi) over HDMI. LibreELEC also supports this when using other PIs connected via HDMI to a TV. (or at least the pi zero I have does)
@Chaphasilor
2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI: the Pi 4 can definitely play back 4K videos, but they have to be encoded in h.265/HEVC for it to work.
@arjix8738
10 ай бұрын
huh, but h.265 is more cpu intensive than h.264
@Chaphasilor
10 ай бұрын
@@arjix8738 I believe the Pi 4 has better hardware support for decoding h265
@Pocket-Calculator
10 ай бұрын
@@arjix8738Not with hardware decoding it isn't.
@arjix8738
10 ай бұрын
@@Pocket-Calculator well duh, hardware decoding means that the GPU is doing the decoding
@Pocket-Calculator
10 ай бұрын
@@arjix8738 The Raspberry Pi usually have specific components to decode video. That allows it to decode high resolution video and also use less power than it would it it was decoding via CPU.
@truerollers
Жыл бұрын
Yep, spent $13k on a display from them for a Hendrick dealership I worked at. Freaking amazing displays. Especially for outdoor use. Humidity didn't bother it, bright enough to display even with direct sunlight!
@scellyyt
2 жыл бұрын
One of the departure boards in stanstead airport had a big raspberry pi logo on it a couple months ago, that was funny
@iAmTheSquidThing
2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could still buy "dumb" TVs, with no smart features, which could just have all their settings controlled by whatever media player box we're using.
@davefarley4318
2 жыл бұрын
I have 2. This video might be over my head and I just don't get it. I have a 50 inch dumb tv with a windows 7 PC and pi 3b hooked up. In my kitchen I have a 32 inch ( I am using it right now) with Nvidia Shield box. Both use keyboard and mouse, gamepads. So I just do not understand the hype for this monitor he is showing. Ok mine are not built in, but Velcro or build a bracket behind tv a connect with HDMI. What's the difference?
@davefarley4318
2 жыл бұрын
Both TV's are sceptre TV's. Both remotes work on eather tv
@user-nh3gu1ge3d
2 жыл бұрын
You could accomplish the same thing by simply not connecting your tv to the internet....
@user-nh3gu1ge3d
2 жыл бұрын
@@davefarley4318 a lot of money
@verbosi7y275
2 жыл бұрын
@@davefarley4318 thats the catch lol, the only dumb tv nowadays are mediocre displays compared to the rest of the market (its a walmart brand afterall) and dont expect 99% of the actual good displays will come with smart functionality
@jeezusjr
2 жыл бұрын
I had never imagined the TV of my dreams would also come with an RS-232 port! Time to break out the null modem cable!
@lost4468yt
2 жыл бұрын
2:07 I was tempted to buy one of these for like £50 from an e-waste recycler before. I would love to setup a giant touchscreen like that with Home Assistant in my home.
@fahrimertdincer8421
2 жыл бұрын
If you do this pls record uplod it to youtube
@R_Forde
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to get ahold of one for my d&d group table.
@crashniels
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've seen the older ones go for 30€ here as well.
@Away0G
2 жыл бұрын
I did that, giant touch screen. Used enormous amounts of power, i got rid of it.
@lost4468yt
2 жыл бұрын
@@Away0G nice. How much?
@KlausWulfenbach
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was going to be a chore to find a non-smart TV to replace the one that just died, but I wasn't expecting that I would be replacing it with a store display. This is fantastic news!
@gibbsfreenthalpy
2 жыл бұрын
Be prepared to shell out a pretty penny though, they are really expensive...
@xEqualsRandom
2 жыл бұрын
Just get a smart TV and don't connect to the internet
@kingneutron1
2 жыл бұрын
@@gibbsfreenthalpy There were at least 3-4 options on the sitelink Jeff provided that were 4k resolution under $1000; when you consider that they should last at least 10 years and probably more, it's not that bad -- compared to giving up your freedom and advertising info + your TV is spying on you and using your internet bandwidth
@gibbsfreenthalpy
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingneutron1 huh, ok, didn't see that, sry. I just roughly know the price we paid, and that was definitely more, even considering that we bought about 50-60 of them...
@mcbot6291
2 жыл бұрын
@@kingneutron1 How's it spying on you if you don't connect it to the internet? This whole concept seems a bit far fetched to me. In terms of value, you're way better off buying a smart TV, leaving it disconnected from the internet, and hooking up a HTPC or Raspberry Pi with internet access.
@prozacgod
2 жыл бұрын
It's almost jarring watching you do videos, and then see so much stuff from where I live. It's so rare to find a 'tuber that's in the area! I need to keep en eye out, maybe I'll bump into you on of these days!
@startedtech
2 жыл бұрын
Aging Wheels is near STL for another good channel. Now if only anyone was from KC
@shotgeek
2 жыл бұрын
I scored a used Panasonic commercial display recently for $35 (42") . works great and it's a tank.
@dronepilotflyby9481
2 жыл бұрын
These NECs are also used 24/7 in manufacturing on large production lines, displaying multiple statistics to operators and supervisors, allowing them to see at a glance during their process adjustments spec readings in real time without being tied down to a workstation monitor.
@madkvideo
2 жыл бұрын
This thing is great! Aside these enterprise displays, we need non-smart TVs to make a comeback!
@vitorhugopereiradesousa1721
2 жыл бұрын
My last TV, I bought it based on the screen specs because I knew it would get outdated pretty fast. Also refurbished, pretty sure someone didn't like the lack of some smart features
@bravocharlie639
2 жыл бұрын
Smaller again as well. A high quality picture in a small format is plenty in many cases. Just consider what most people used to watch this video.
@mattybbg6850
2 жыл бұрын
A "TV" with a serial port, the nostalgia!
@juststeve5542
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these types of display run centralised signage software to control the layout and content. You can usually define an area of the screen to pick up live video streams from the network, like multicast or RTSP. Needless to say, there are Linux based, open source, signage projects like Xibo you can use, so if you have a machine with a TV tuner card, you could stream TV across your LAN to your non-TV signage display.
@andrewjohnston359
2 жыл бұрын
HD Homerun is excellent for this
@TerryLawrence001
2 жыл бұрын
A pc on a stick running Windows or Linux are plug and play, They work out to be cheaper than the time and hassle of using RPi stuff!
@dakotaferris4842
2 жыл бұрын
Me walking into random stores in the mall: CAN I LOOK AT YOUR TVS JEFF TOLD ME TO SEE IF THEY HAVE PIES
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Haha "Mall traffic was up 7% this month, but nobody bought anything, they were just looking at all our store displays."
@thejpkotor
2 жыл бұрын
I picked up an ‘older’ NEC display to use with my streaming box. For being only 1080, it has amazing color accuracy, smooth motion and best of all, none of the clunkiness and unnecessary features of a smart TV.
@stnkpalm
2 жыл бұрын
NEC displays have been my go to choice for business applications. I always get arguments from people complaining that they are too expensive. They see the prices of TVs at Best Buy and Costco and think, "What's the difference?" I always explain that the commercial displays are built for commercial applications, they are but to last and be on for long periods of time. Furthermore, consumer TV warranties often do not cover the TV when installed outside of someone's house. I don't need or want a SmartTV with a Netflix button on the remote in a conference room. I want a large display, not a large TV. Great video, I'm going to show this to people who challenge me on why I spec a commercial display in the future.
@startedtech
2 жыл бұрын
The coolest use of displays I've seen in a store (and a mall store at that) was the Microsoft store(rip), where they had displays basically wrapping around the walls.
@heavenlydusk
2 жыл бұрын
There was this furniture store we had, (we still have it) and it had a commercial that did really well. They had wraparound displays showing all of their commercials in one of their branches after that.
@gibbsfreenthalpy
2 жыл бұрын
Those things are great. We use them as information displays in our fire and rescue stations, where they show general information such as time, weather, tide and specialized info such as current ressource status or in case of an alarm a data overlay about the new mission, site, action type etc...
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
They're perfect for that. And maybe the world's most expensive Raspberry Pi magic mirror :D
@teun3dprint467
4 ай бұрын
You know what the best part about these is. My school has a lot of these hanging everywhere. I realised it as soon as they crashed. They do that a lot and the school is to lazy to reboot them.
@neteagle2k9
2 жыл бұрын
This TV may be the only reliable source to buy a RPI these days :-)
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
lol and... 😭
@kreinova2747
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know haha, but in Malaysia we have a very reliable official store that, i saw, has stocks that are available once a week, 10/20 of them once, but usually comes with package, that sucks, but sometimes i got the pi just with a $10 sd card, It's name is Cytron Technologies
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
@@kreinova2747 Cytron's pretty cool - they've contacted me in the past, and they have some decent white-label parts too.
@sarcasticmcspastic
Жыл бұрын
Oh hey, I have an older 1080p model of one of these! Recovered it from a long abandoned business location It currently runs as my primary monitor on my desktop. This displays surprisingly good for just about damn near anything you could throw at it, I was surprised it even still worked when I found it lmao
@CrkdLtrN
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I work in the signage industry and love these displays a lot and wish I could work with them more. But getting some small shop to actually buy them at this price, instead of the cheapest TV at Best Buy and then just using a FireTV stick, is very difficult. Signage has a lot of options and most go with the cheapest solution. I'm in SoCal and when I go through McD's drive through around the area, I see that the "TVs" the chose to use are failing big time. So if McD's can't even afford to install these, then Joe's sunglass hut probably won't either :)
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah; I have noticed some places cheap out, and within months, the TV is washed out or really, really dim (especially if they place it somewhere exposed to sunlight for part of the day). And at that point, since they invested in the setup their using, they just go with it (since the dull image isn't as noticeable if you've just seen it every day a tiny bit less) and don't feel like they could switch to a proper display at some point :(
@MrAnthonyt2010
3 ай бұрын
I worked on the display Signage at DEN and am still good friends with the team that maintains them! Loved to see them make the Video!
@GlenJackson
2 жыл бұрын
Great timing on this! I have a few Pis running as dashboards for processes at work, simply refreshing an internal website every few minutes to get updated data. I'm planning on transitioning to something better where I could mix the page in with company announcements and other dashboards. I'd love to see a video about doing something like this with an open-source software.
@B3yondBlu
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the ultimate display for a Homelab Grafana display.
@Foiliagegaming
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering if there’s anyone that makes just the display for awhile. This answers that. Dumb tvs are the future. Pick your own OS
@parkerlreed
2 жыл бұрын
It's funny you pointed out webOS as the proprietary operating system :) That's based on the open source webOS from Palm and HP years ago. LG still maintains the current repo. webOS OSE.
@disasterincarnate
2 жыл бұрын
still got my hp touchpad (at least thats had more updates/life than my now defunct ipad3) with a gazillion updates/improvements on it and a pre3 collecting dust somewhere.
@izzieb
2 жыл бұрын
Samsung TVs use Tizen, which is also open source and actually backed by the Linux Foundation.
@charleshill7184
Жыл бұрын
This video is embedded on Sharp-NEC's SOC page for their signage. Congrats! Oh, and the Pi does have hardware h.265 (hevc) decoding and will do 4K fine, if you encoded it properly. If it doesn't, then Handbrake is your friend.
@einnicernutzer
2 жыл бұрын
its great to see that raspberry pi integrations are now available for commercial use interesting to see how many of them are already probably at use at stores, i have to keep an eye open next time im in a store so i can maybe spot one of those lol
@beauregardslim1914
2 жыл бұрын
The serial port might seem odd, but RS-232 was the standard way of controlling displays and projectors before CEC came along, and continues to be used in the "pro" market. My projector has a serial port and it has been very useful in automating my home theatre.
@DangerousParent
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm interested in buying a "This is not a TV" the commentator sure makes me want one, he's concise and informative in the delivery of information 🤔 Great video, Jeff Geerling, maybe the best INFORMATIONAL video I've seen on KZitem👌👍
@Ghostviperz
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of my first flat tv was a $4000 commercial Panasonic 50 plasma with a similar blade system that allowed input upgrading I loved that tv!
@stultuses
2 жыл бұрын
I've said for a long time TV'S should use a standard input interface so the smart part can be upgraded
@jocramkrispy305
Жыл бұрын
SCART?
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
2 жыл бұрын
"Smarter than a Smart TV" oh gods no. What now, don't tell me they taught it to tell when I'm lying so it can interrogate me about brand preferences. Edit: oh so it's actually just a big display that can make for an actually good TV that won't spy on me.
@Thornan81
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this setup is insanely expensive and at least one of the parts are not available to your average person makes this really cool but extremely impractical.
@byte-nibbler
5 ай бұрын
This is not a TV! After two weeks of owning the smaller 43-inch version (MA431), I can attest that this is truly a professional wide-gamut 4K monitor with superior color accuracy and rugged construction for 24/7 operation. It is my desktop dream monitor for professional photo & video editing, graphic design, and productivity. I once owned a Sharp alarm clock, but this is my first Sharp NEC product, and so far I'm loving it.
@Saaihead
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those setups are pretty good. I worked with older NEC screens, which were a part of some kiosk system which I had to repurpose in serveral of our offices. It had to be done cheap, so some PI's and a rescheduled screen did the trick. When we went into lockdown in 2020 I left the PI's on, when I returned a few months ago they were still running lol.
@frydac
2 жыл бұрын
how about DRM streaming services, I can't seem to get these to work on my linux desktop due to DRM (widevine L1) not being supported, I'm guessing it will be the same for pi based media centers? Lets say for amazon prime hd, can't get that one to work.
@BreannaMae
Жыл бұрын
Back in 2009 I had to buy a new tv to replace my old CRT tv I'd had since 2003. Well I found a 50" flat panel tv from Sharp and decided it'd be a perfect replacement. At the time it cost me right around $1000. Get this, I still have that tv and it works beautifully! It's being used in my recording studio as a computer monitor, but also has Roku, a Blu-Ray player and a DVD player all hooked up to it. So I can watch movies, surf the web, record music, etc., etc. Sharp have always made some great electronics!
@Veikra
Жыл бұрын
I still use a nec p702 from 2008 which ran forever. The quality of the components inside is impressive.
@DanielandStuff7
2 жыл бұрын
btw: sharps remote worked out of the box because of hdmi cec :)
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Ah... that would be obvious from the little message that popped up while I was booting the first time :P
@MrBlakBunny
2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough one of the shops near my place has one, for the last few weeks its bugged out, so its displaying linux error codes, so i wondered if it had a pi inside or some other arm computer
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Could also still be Intel, just running a Linux OS instead of Windows.
@mrxmgs3768
2 жыл бұрын
The ability to swap out the compute module, and the reliability would make it worth pay its cost, this is amazing.
@lennytlm
Жыл бұрын
I have heard they last about 3 years (coincidentally when the warranty ends) and then start having backlight issues, but some of the ones I saw installed in around 2014 are still going strong today,
@RobstaHendricks
2 ай бұрын
I had two of these. Amazing when you understand that these are huge monitors/advertising exhibition displays. They're actually super nice and with heaps of connectors... Just no eArc ;)
@lubricatedgoat
2 жыл бұрын
Jeff, is it possible to recreate this experience by plugging in a Pi4 to the hdmi input as well as having the Pi control some sort of IR-blaster? This way it could control the IR functions of the TV, including power cycling. Is there a generic remote? It would seem there might be a market for converting smart TVs into smarter TVs. Be cool to have a standard remote and software suite for doing this. Of course one would not benefit from the better hardware of a commercial unit. Wonder how big those panels get in 4k?
@jg374
2 жыл бұрын
On our (not smart and old enough to be cold cathode backlit) tv, some simple commands can be sent between the pi and tv over hdmi-cec. This includes changing the input source to the pi when it boots and play/pause on the tv remote playing and pausing when running kodi. This can be a bit hit and miss and doesn't have many features implemented, so an IR solution might be the best way to go (maybe even a relay on the mains supply of the TV a guaranteed way of restarting it or putting it in a known state). Historically, each major manufacturer has had their own ir protocols and mappings of buttons. The Linux IR drivers have built in learning functionality from a genuine remote, or can use an existing config file someone else has made. I think this is still in the hobbyist realms for now (unless something has changed and I am not up with the times) as too much talk of interfacing devices together will put off those who just want their tvs to work and will make do with the smart tv's foibles instead. For anything commercial, I would think an off the shelf solution like outlined in the video would probably be selected for reliability, time and having someone to call to fix it for you reasons.
@familyguy0398
2 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised how many TVs have CEC, even if it's not explicitly stated in the manual. I've found many TVs capable of controlling Kodi distributions through the in-built pulse CEC plugin. Most basic buttons, like arrows, OK/Enter and Back work fine for Kodi.
@RyanFranklinWilliams
2 жыл бұрын
I do this with libreele on a pi. CEC allows the arrow buttons on some TV models' remote to control Kodi as well as turn off the TV or wake the TV from being off on button press, although I normally use a remote connected to rpi via USB (not all of my tvs support CEC and since they're all older I wasn't expecting them to say I bought remotes for all 3).
@XxUltimateGodzXx
2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a 4k (KZitem) capable pi will be ideal. Eagerly waiting for a snapdragon gen 3 type soc, 8 6x2 or 4x4 big.little with a nice adreno 730 or mali g78. Gonna need a passive heatsink but hey, I'll take a price bump to $45 for 4gb at that point. I don't need my big gaming pc all the time, so doing responsive browsing on a pi would be ideal instead of the pi/laptop combo.
@kyleallred984
2 жыл бұрын
Its always cool to compare the redundancy of commercial/ enterprise gear vs consumer products.
@gordon861
2 жыл бұрын
We need displays like this available to the public. I haven't plugged an aerial into my TV in about 20 years, set top box (cable or satellite) provides the signal to HDMI. All I want is a decent screen and a ton of HDMI ports.
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Same here, and I'd be okay paying a 10-20% premium on the exact same display if they just ripped out all the adware stuff and their custom 'smart apps'.
@swmovan
Жыл бұрын
I agree with needing more hdmi ports. I was lectured awhile back, when mentioning that point. He almost sounded irate, telling me there are very few people that care if a TV only has 2 hdmi ports. My current TV has 4, and I still use an additional hdmi switch on one of the ports. Along with component connections, which you cannot find on a TV these days.
@rodrigofilho1996
Жыл бұрын
The screen image quality is bad, better to just buy a normal tv, then connect a pi via hdmi to it.
@pseudonym1515
4 ай бұрын
It's almost impossible to find non-"smart" TVs on the consumer market these days. The data tracking and advertising increase the profit margin.
@rodrigofilho1996
4 ай бұрын
@@pseudonym1515 Just leave the TV offline, it cant send data without internet.
@Nevakonaza.
Жыл бұрын
Amazing that you could upgrade this thing in the future without having to toss the whole TV for a new one,I have a fairly modern Quantum Dot TV and while its picture quality is fantastic, I often find its UI to be slow and laggy,Most likely because it has a slow processor :/
@tomconway6808
2 жыл бұрын
Hello fellow St. Louisan! I have hooked PC's up to my televisions for years. I watched this video and am typing up this comment on a 720p plasma hooked up to an Core i5 HTPC. I also picked up one of those LG C1 OLED 55 inch TVs about 9 months ago. The picture is BEAUTIFUL. The built in speakers are no slouches either. I have it hooked up to a PC, but I did give the smart functions a try. They are actually quite good for what they are. I still prefer a PC hooked up to the TV though.
@fusseldieb
2 жыл бұрын
The Atom version of those compute modules should run Windows tho
@Toxicity1987
2 жыл бұрын
I already found a lot of displays running with Rasperry Pis, but often the Pi just is strapped with some zip ties to the wires that go into the display. Such hacky setups are quite popular.
@enkiimuto1041
Жыл бұрын
And cheaper
@igordasunddas3377
2 жыл бұрын
Love the video... The only thing I might've missed is the price of this screen...
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Check the links in the description-this model is somewhere around $1500 USD, so I didn't want to focus too much on price, since it's not something the average consumer would probably consider.
@kingneutron1
2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling I replied to another comment, if you go to the sitelink you provided and sort by price, once you get past the "contact us" junk there are at least 3-4 options for 4K resolution displays under $1k :)
@jeebusk
3 ай бұрын
4k is over-rated
@xeschire706
Ай бұрын
LCD flat panels are overrated, CRT's with rpi 0w2's running OSMC all the way through!!! =D
@ochszy3831
Жыл бұрын
Small world, I just bought my glasses from he lady at the @1:39 mark! I've been in to Pi's for a while now and just found your channel! See you at the Galleria one day!
@programaths
Жыл бұрын
For consumer TV, you can buy demo units. 12 years ago, I bought a demo unit. It has one great feature: a glass panel in front of the screen! I also suspect a better build, because it's still doing great in all aspect. I also got it cheaper than the original product, because it was already used. A friend who bought it with me didn't want in the first place, so I explained him that those TVs are made to be on display every day while the store is open, plus the glass pane that makes it sturdier. I bought back my part a few years later. A bit expensive, but that TV was expensive and the price was still right.
@Lampe2020
2 жыл бұрын
In the LUV shopping center in Lübeck (Schleswig-Holstein, Germany) there's one store that uses RPiOS with a program running on top to entertain the children whose parents are shopping. It doesn't even hide the mouse cursor!
@xerxesYt123
Жыл бұрын
Finally a tv that doesnt take almost if not all of your data. tbh, it shouldve always been that way. Nice to see that Sharp NEC prioritized on the essential first.
@zb9458
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, great video! Really enjoyed seeing RPis in use IRL! Super cool! Also, I wanted to say this video had a really high production value, which was cool! On the other hand I also enjoy the less produced stuff because it comes off as more you (like Red Shirt Jeff :) ). Either way, great video!
@cheeeeezewizzz
2 жыл бұрын
iS there any advantage to using this display when I can get a better Samsung display for the same price and just plug a raspberry pi directly to the TV display port?
@punkdigerati
2 жыл бұрын
It was CEC that allowed you to use the remote, not the gpios. It even showed on the screen right when you were mentioning the remote working.
@Blubb5000
2 жыл бұрын
I work for a large screen manufacturer. We do large screens all day long. Anything from a single LCD to multi million dollar oversized LED walls. It’s a fun business and lots of travel.
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
Someday I want to look into LED walls... how they're constructed, how they're run, the full process from start to finish. They're fascinating, especially in how well modern video walls appear on TV/film nowadays (in the past, projection-based displays would look terrible in recordings).
@Blubb5000
2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffGeerling I work with large format video walls since 1997. Cubes, LCD, LED and Projection. I developed software, hardware, install and service all of it... and more. It's my daily bread. If you need some info... hit me up. :-)
@MrKarlyboy
Жыл бұрын
Love all this, definitely best type of TV. Pi is invented, designed and manufactured in west UK in Southern Wales. Amazing country to visit if you have the time. Beautiful place.
@Castalliano88
Жыл бұрын
RPI’s or aka virtual machines have been used in this capacity for over 10 years from what i can remember. manufactures use them to display company information and or production information to the employees.
@davidabner8885
2 жыл бұрын
I used a 55 inch NEC display with an OPS module as my living room TV for a long time. The OPS module was beastly too, 6th Gen i7 and 16gb of RAM
@jaumesinglavalls5486
2 жыл бұрын
in the munic airport, they have some of the terminals with raspberry pi, once I saw one of them broken with the logo of the rpi...
@jteegarden9197
5 ай бұрын
man there is noting better than a manufacturer doing what makes the most since rather than what would be cheapest
@lmore377
2 жыл бұрын
That signage OS actually looks really nice and polished
@JeffGeerling
2 жыл бұрын
This is a couple major versions in-it's pretty darn stable, and worked as I expected (which is to say, way better than the terrible UIs I've worked with on all the consumer TVs I've ever used).
@tonysheerness2427
2 жыл бұрын
No wonder no one can buy a raspberry pi, if every store, shop retailer has at least one raspberry pi running their displays, the manufacturers can not keep up.What a success for a little board designed to teach.
@merc248
Жыл бұрын
awesome video! also, your ansible playbooks have been incredibly helpful over the years - just wanted to call that out lol
@CognitiveMeanderings
2 жыл бұрын
Sooo... after next time you're not Jeff Geerling? (TIC). Great video as always man. Love your work. Everytime I get bored and just play games and don't do tech I always get the will to tinker back after watching videos like this one.
@qlum
2 жыл бұрын
The best part of this type of display is when it crashes. I have been traveling by train for a long time, in the 00's / early 2010's you mostly saw windows based errors when they failed, but nowadays they don't fail as much. When they do you see typical linux errors like a black screen with a xorg cursor or what I saw yesterday, one screen stuck at initramfs.
@scottwilkins
Жыл бұрын
Yodeck is my favorite cloud based display controller company. Based off Pi 4 units, and does do 4K. I bet it would work with this display very easily. Cheap too.
@osgnuru
Жыл бұрын
I especially enjoyed the clip from my favorite Star Trek movie. I'm watching it now. 😁
@sandman7793
2 жыл бұрын
Most companies will skip a commercial display, and go for a $300 residential display, and replace it every 2 years. We usually use Screenly. Been using it for years and years. The free version is call OSE.
@ShouPow
5 ай бұрын
One of the hospitals i trained at had 10k NEC displays in the ORs, mostly to display laparascopic or robotic imagery, sometimes to display radiographic imaging. There were some ORs that had the hires displays displaying the patient chart, lmao... So not all of them were well utilized.
@MobileDecay
Жыл бұрын
By this logic a smart tv isn't a tv because it has a computer in it.
@felenov
2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the ideal CCTV video wall monitor for my system.
@HUNVilly
2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for Star Trek First Contact
@jkk1337
2 жыл бұрын
I work for an IT company and we use these displays to monitor out systems with grafana boards
@MegaManNeo
2 жыл бұрын
Now I want one of those. Especially since these things last much longer.
@MrMannyhw
Жыл бұрын
At this day and age, there is actually no need to have a tuner since everything is used with the internet and uses HDMI. This is amazing.
@rambo8wradio
2 жыл бұрын
This (apart from industrial build quality) is what i need. Just big screen, no tv receiver (I dont watch tv), I will "smartify" it myself better if need be.
@NathanBiskop
Жыл бұрын
I'm a tinkerer at heart, but definitely a battle when choosing something customizable but straight forward at the same time. I was originally looking at Google TV os, because of access to Android apps, but the profiles suck, the only thing the profiles do is separate the home suggestions, not your actual accounts in apps.
@BrianThomas
2 жыл бұрын
That TV look alike is wicked smaht dude! 0:02
@nomore-constipation
2 жыл бұрын
The "older" audience in my life need this. Especially when they want to cast their phone content to a larger display or hook it up as a monitor for their laptop or Chromebook? Think about setting up the grandparents with this sucker. They kinda get what they want and need (bigger font and size to see better as you age) Then their grandchildren or neighborhood kids visiting while their parents are over. Wouldn't mind this as a kid. Plus since it's built to last, it's an easy sell in a way. Especially when it could be the last TV you'll ever need
@soggybaguette8457
2 жыл бұрын
I use a pi as a media center on the dumb tv that comes with my apartment and I love it!
@bobobaggin1300
2 жыл бұрын
Was searching for this topic of video 2 weeks ago. glad i found this. Keen for more!
@Charles-jy6nx
2 жыл бұрын
These are also used in ORs for imaging too. So surgeons can share images and see done color perfect details.
@RohitBanerjee
2 жыл бұрын
I have never bought or owned a television, what I bought was a 27" Asus monitor (it even had 3D viewing features), and connected it to my local DTH set top box HDMI output, and voila! My own TV without buying a television. I then graduated to completely switching over to RPi 3B and it has been the primary home entertainment system since early 2017. Kodi FTW.
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
2 жыл бұрын
NEC has always had great remote support. At one time I had 4 P462s that Burgerking upgraded. They threw all of them in the dumpster, breaking 2 screens. These things are beast. Windows 7 pc compute modules built in. They are not the greatest I’ve seen on a TV. But daisychaining them together is always a blast.
@AllanKobelansky
Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Can’t wait to try this when Raspberry Pi’s become available.
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