They should just sell that Dev kit with the finished X Elite chips, that looks sexy
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
That just went on sale, and I've got one coming. Stay tuned...
@alderonmatt
Ай бұрын
@@AZisk They should of sold that dev kit before the products launched so developers have a chance to get their software ready. I did a video talking with Wendell (Level 1 Techs) about this.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
@@alderonmatt I saw the Wendel vid and totally agree that this dev kit should have been out months before. Not sure what the issue was with that.
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
still, the apparent weak performance of that X Elite GPU cluster is puzzling. Is it just the drivers, or is there something else going on ? Why is X elite GPU so weak in benchmarks ? It's not the Prism translation, as that's not responsible with graphics, it simply calls the already existing graphics APIs and then of course the drivers come into play.
@felipe.raposo
Ай бұрын
@@alderonmatt should have
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
Here's a test idea for evaluating different developer runtimes on identical setups: - Create a Windows VM on an X-Elite laptop, and allocate let's say 4 cores to the guest OS. - Create a MacOS VM on a M-series Macbook, and allocate the same number of cores. - Run identical tests that use the Python interpreter, Javascript, the Java and .NET (I think .NET framework can target Mac) Just don't forget to normalise for the CPU frequency. This test will reveal the efficiency of these runtimes as implemented for different platforms. Another setup: instead of a Windows VM on X-elite, create Window VM on another identical Mac, and allocate same number of cores. Then of course, unleash the SCHWARZENEGGER on them :D
@TravisAntonio
Ай бұрын
This idea seems good on paper, but there are other factors like virtualization performance, which is dependent on the CPU/Software (Windows, Mac). However, I would like to see it being implemented like you wrote.
@dgloverau
Ай бұрын
Hmmm, you only allocated 4gb to the VM on macOS so suspect that accounted for slower loads and builds
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
Virtualisation in case of the Macbook M2 Pro simply means it's running Windows in isolation, no translation or anything else that would hinder performance of the code is happening. So the performance is almost literally what Windows ARM binaries would run on Apple silicon if Apple would've enable Bootcamp. So basically if your host OS is ARM, and the guest OS is also ARM, the "virtualised" binaries should run at native speed. The only difference would be attributed to compiler optimisation - I imagine Microsoft's ARM compiler back-end to target Qualcomm's specific setup (eg. for example make certain assumptions like cache topology or core/cluster allocation strategy of the OS). Certain optimisations could make some difference. Also, Windows' thread dispatched (can't remember it's actual name) / thread scheduler would work differently from MacOS. But by en-large, ARM guest code inside an ARM host OS, like what you're testing, should roughly run at full speed. (with the caveat that MacOS virtualisation framework does not expose the E-cores, at least not on my M1 Pro) The test is simple: run Geekbench 6 or Cinebench on the Macbook M2, then in a MacOS VM (I tried it with UTM/Qemu) then run Windows 11 ARM on the same M2 macbook with say VMWare Fusion. You should all get roughly the same results.
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
p.s. usually the differences people are seeing when running inside same-architecture guest VMs is down to drivers - e.g. the guest does not have "competent" drivers for graphics, or sound, etc. - and then that can slow down things. But it's not about execution speed of the ARM binaries inside the guest.
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
*e.g they are running on bare metal, inside an isolated environment. A more sophisticated container, if you will.
@King-Julz
Ай бұрын
@@MrLocsei That's crazy. So when I run a virtualised environment of windows within a windows laptop why is it so significantly slower? Is this down to drivers as you say? Or am I missing something here. My CPU spikes up massively, which I assume is the headroom required to run the virtual machine, as well as everything being significantly slower.
@King-Julz
Ай бұрын
Having done some research I can see that technically it depends on the hypervisor and the virtual machine you are using. So if I'm understanding correctly, so long as the hypervisor can support all the extensions of the cpu/gpu it should essentially run native, so subtracting the headroom for the hypervisor. The issue I must be having with my slow VM must be down to the virtual machine hypervisor not having all the dependencies to run at native speed, therefore having to optimise machine code on the fly? Let me know
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
@@King-Julz yes, this is correct. It is the drivers. The hypervisor should have next to no impact, as it's implemented in hardware. Don't think what you are seeing is down to dependencies - if it runs, it runs, it means it has all it needs. Machine code is *not* optimised on the fly.' Differences in performance are probably down to graphics API differences, and driver implementations that are required to recognise the virtualised peripherals. The VM host exposes host resources such as sound, USB bus, graphics, and the disk/ssd itself as virtual devices. The guest OS then needs drivers to talk to these. The VM vendor usually supplies these, but might not be optimal.
@JohannesLauesen
Ай бұрын
again, amazing editing, and amazing speed of informationflow without being confusing... really love your videos.... keep up the style an quality
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
One interesting thing to think about is why x86 code running with the help of Rosetta, or Prism for that matter, has a performance impact. In theory, it should run at the same speed, as both Rosetta and Prism are fully translating the x86 machine instructions into equivalent ARM before executing even the 1st instruction. In theory, "ideal" x86 code can be transcoded into "ideal" ARM code. The problem is, the compiler already made some decisions and optimisations when compiling say the Swift/C++/Rust code and building for the 86 target - and these are unknown to Rosetta/Prism when they "look" at the block of machine instructions to translate. Moreover, some of these optimisations baked-in by the compiler will have to do with architectural differences such as cache layout and specific memory access optimisations. Still, it is entirely possible, in theory, that the translation to become perfect, and there would be no difference between Rosetta-translated ARM and native ARM. If this doesn't happen, it is because Apple considers Rosetta "good enough" (which is, more than good enough).
@Freshbott2
Ай бұрын
@@MrLocsei my general experience is that average application performance is really high, but latency/minimum performance sensitive applications in Rosetta like games have a bit of stutter and rubber banding. It feels really similar to shader compilation in emulated games which to me suggests there’s more going on than just the translation itself. There’s some caching of instructions and moving things around in memory to get common stuff closer. Rosetta already has to map memory for x86 apps differently to native ARM64. At some point good enough is the best you can do short of fully implementing intel’s ridiculous instruction set. There’s a lot of single clock cycle Intel instructions that are just ridiculous, and I’m sure multithreaded/parallel applications stutter waiting on some of them to complete in multiple clock cycles. Creel has a good video on x86 instructions. Short of perfect translation my question is despite being slower, why is Microsoft’s translation smoother?
@swung0x48
Ай бұрын
@@MrLocsei The theory upfront is not true... It's not how those translation layers work. Rosetta does some ahead-of-time translation (that's why x86 apps can take a ridiculously long time to load at the 1st time), many apps, simply cannot be treated this way. Many apps employs technologies such as JIT, which generates machine instructions on-the-fly when the app is running. (For example, this is how browsers run Javascripts embedded in websites!), and also some code can modify itself to do some interesting things. In these cases, the ahead-of-time translation will be paperweight and it will purely rely on translations happening when the app is running. This is where(even Rosetta) will take a huge performance penalty.
@swung0x48
Ай бұрын
Also, even translation ahead of time can have overheads related to it. Finding patterns in code stream, generating fast code when there's no enough context (source code) available, and swiftly finding a cached code block for a repeating pattern...They are all places where you can lose performance, and it is just the tip of the iceberg
@RaduTek
Ай бұрын
I find it hilarious that the Voltera dev kit is basically a Surface Pro X motherboard and a Surface Dock shoved into a box. It does make financial sense for a low volume production.
@shanehebert396
Ай бұрын
Pretty much all the minipcs are basically laptops in a box instead of a laptop shell.
@RaduTek
Ай бұрын
@@shanehebert396 They use laptop parts like CPUs (SoCs) and RAM, but the motherboard is specifically designed for the Mini PC. The Volterra is literally the same board as in the Surface Pro X tablet. They just made a board around it that works like the Surface Dock to provide the rear I/O.
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
thermal profiles will be different though (I mean they could be, I don't know for sure).
@antor44
Ай бұрын
Those video effects of clocks over the laptops are great and provide valuable visual enhancements !
@namesurname6583
Ай бұрын
Windows always had problems with the process planner. NPU appeared, but Windows engineers used it to process user data . NPU is best used to synchronize the scheduler of the kernel and scheduler which is built into the processor. When each scheduler works in his own algorithm without coordination, you should not wait for special performance.
@theperfguy
Ай бұрын
Problem with MacM(1234) and Windows VM is the price for Parallels. If it was one time payment parallels was probably a better choice for non-gaming, professional Windows (Arm). But that subscription makes it a less attractive option.. Unless you are doing a business (charge it to the business), or your employer is paying for it...
@eguif
Ай бұрын
Have you installed windows 24h2 in the volterra project? This version is very focused on our arm
@XeZrunner
Ай бұрын
24H2 brings optimizations to the desktop responsiveness as well, as it finally fixes the stuttering within shell animations, such as opening Task View or managing windows.
@jsergiuiulian
Ай бұрын
@@XeZrunner Do you need to be an insider to get it or is it an optional update at this point?
@XeZrunner
Ай бұрын
@@jsergiuiulian 24H2 is set to release in October/November. You can try it early in the Release Preview Insider channel now.
@EduardKorenschi
Ай бұрын
Maybe I got it wrong, but on a very short screenshot I've seen, while switching, on the VM on Mac, from 4 to 8 cores, that the memory allocated to the Windows VM was 4 GB. That wouldn't pose a problem for a CPU, but not memory intensive benchmark, like the first one was, but would totally affect the outcome of a VS Code one, with it's memory hog of a Chrome(ium) core. Maybe you could repeat the benchmark with a 8 (10) cores and something like 16GB allowed for the VM. That would make it a bit fairer. I was hoping for the Mac to get it's arse handed over, but it looks different.
@Watchandlearn91
Ай бұрын
The weaker virtualized single core perf of the M2 Max vs the x elite is the reason for the slower build and startup times in vs code for that app since all that is single threaded
@l.bogdan1360
Ай бұрын
Judging by your lastest benchmark videos, Apple now has a serious growing competitor :D. No the time to get lazy on chip advancements :))
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
good! this is kinda what we wanted - more competition.
@andyH_England
Ай бұрын
When praising Snapdragon X people forget that Apple still destroys the best X ELITE because they have the M3 Max. Although obvious pricing differences, too say the best X Elite is challenging the best M3 is not really close to being true. With the M4 already on iPads we can see that in a few months even the base M4 in Macs will dominate the X Elite. We also have the ARM versus Qualcomm court case in six weeks which if ARM wins casts serious doubts on whether Orion has a future. If the court finds that Qualcomm's failure to design their own WOA chip for 10 years led to them using proprietary ARM processes to fix their inability then praise for Snapdragon X chips will be misplaced even further.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
@@andyH_England These things are all true. However, you'll notice that most people aren't comparing the M3 Max to the X Elite because they are in a different class machine altogether at a hugely different price point. I think of the new crop of laptops as light weight notebooks for medium powered work. And if someone is on Windows, this might suit them well, remembering that the key point is the power efficiency, not king of performance. So, yes, the latest MacBooks in general are more powerful.
@dr.orange6509
Ай бұрын
@@AZiskespecially when Arm powered windows laptop will be available for 600$ in the future.
@georgekopadze791
18 күн бұрын
Hey Alex, thanks for great content you always do. Surface you are using in this video, is it 16GB? It’s interesting how 32gb is working
@danhetherington5214
Ай бұрын
Great to see quick builds for development. Other than running the local db from VS what options would you recommended to connect to a sqlserver instance on snapdragon?
@filecore
Ай бұрын
Love my Dev Kit 2023. My daily driver and easily good enough for what I do.
@melahi94
Ай бұрын
Alex, could you please provide the link to the python code of the mandelbrot algorithm are you using for benchmark? Beacuse, of course there are a bunch of mandelbrot implementations in internet. I am pretty interested in the algorithm from the mathematical -numerical point of view. Thanks in advance.
@shalomrutere2649
Ай бұрын
Hi Alex👋🏽 Love your videos I'd like to know what differences there are between running Windows natively on ARM PCs Vs as a virtual machine on Macs. Are there any limitations of running it virtually on the Mac apart from WSL 2 or maybe some hardware needed for anticheat functionality in games? If or when games get written for windows on ARM, will they be available on M-Series Macs running Windows virtually as well??
@georgekopadze791
Ай бұрын
Hey Alex, one more amazing video. Thank you! Please do comparison between 16GB surface vs 32GB surface. Thank you
@MrKar18
Ай бұрын
Great vid Alex. Just wondering - did you get the Snapdragon X elite dev kit? It's been in pre order and queue since May for me. Not sure if it's region based delay.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
it’s now available and mine is on the way (i hope)
@sudeepkansari2380
13 күн бұрын
Tell me about machine learning tasks on snapdragon processors and compare it to apple silicon and x86
@YouGotPropofol
Ай бұрын
MS are fools to not make small workstations with ARM chips. If they expect ARM to take over business eventually they have to have workstations ! Madness to limit to laptops.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
Ай бұрын
Nothing is stopping any other company from making those. But not much point because the only advantage these have over Intel and AMD is battery life.
@gerdya6301
Ай бұрын
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 The advantage is power efficiency - a longer battery life is just a side effect of this. This would mean for a workstation that you are getting higher performance out of your power budget.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
Ай бұрын
@gerdya6301 lower power usage is always good. But workstations do not have power budgets. I'll take very little risk in saying there is no workstation setup where an X Elite works but a 7840u doesn't. Even cooling isn't different because peak power use is actually higher on the Snapdragon.
@Trickey2413
Ай бұрын
@@gerdya6301 power budget lol.
@GersonLuizMeloSilveira
Ай бұрын
Great comparison, Please let me bring two points. #1 Besides Apple M2 Max being much more mature and well-designed compared to the just-arrived Snapdragon X Elitem, it seems that he gaps between them are interesting or even nonexistent. The point is: are Windows ARM-based devices ready and reliable for all commonly needed tasks and workloads? #2 Did your evaluation consider thermal values and consequently CPU throttle? Others assessed that no matter the number of cores ARM could have, the key point is how temperature is managed or controlled using the fan's speed or even using external cooling systems. What is your opinion about that? Is that really thermal management the key factor?
@alexmid
Ай бұрын
and what about virtual macOS running on Windows ARM machine? :)
@ShaferHart
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, ARM will accelerate the Appleization of every other PC manufacturer. RAM is already a casualty. We're all getting soldered on RAM now. The "future" sucks and I want out.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
abstraction makes us move forward.
@sf-petru
13 күн бұрын
those surface devices are kinda sexy
@neel2137
Ай бұрын
hi, enjoying your snapdragon series very much 👍 could you do a comparison of on device llm with olama (token/sec)
@ralphort7445
Ай бұрын
Hi Alex, thanks. Speaking of Windows for/on ARM: Do you know any USB WiFi adapter being supported by W11 on ARM? Need such device to access my corp NW from within my Parallels hosted W11 VM. Appreciate your support.
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
Using Speedometer for testing single-core performance is perhaps not the best choice, as the performance of the graphics subsystem can play a role in the final result. When comparing identical systems (for example you compare Mac vs. Mac, same software stack but different SoCs) it's alright. But if you compare Windows to Mac and especially Windows in a Mac host VM, then what's down to the CPU and what's down to the graphics APIs /drivers (even though yes, it's about 2D web page rendering, but still).
@MrLocsei
Ай бұрын
also what's down to the Javascript framework's optimisations, or lack thereof ;)
@mikelevitskiy2535
Ай бұрын
Hey Alex, any plans to test Microsoft vs Samsung X1E-80-100 models? I couldn't find a comparison like that anywhere.
@LobsterHarry
Ай бұрын
Alex, is it possible to run Virtual Machines on a Snapdragon Maschine ? I need several different for my projects. Apple can, so it must be somehow possible on Arm based maschines...
@mavfan1
Ай бұрын
Just take a point called Z in the complex plane Let Z1 be Z squared plus C And Z2 is Z1 squared plus C And Z3 is Z2 squared plus C and so on If the series of Zs will always stay Close to Z and never trend away That point is in the Mandelbrot Set
@shivanshuraj7175
Ай бұрын
Hey can you try building openblas on elite x? Intel 1155G7 toop 7 minutes msbuild multiprocessor 7 with boost disabled on cpu cpu.I want to see is elitex any better?
@Vimal_S_Thomas
Ай бұрын
does the speedometer 3 test the single core of arm or x84 machines?
@lscharan
Ай бұрын
Hey Alex if at all I need one snapdragon X elite laptop for Gen AI development what is your recommendation?
@namejust6287
Ай бұрын
3:56 i think you set too little ram at virtual machine. it says only have 4gb. even though you can set to 16gb. may i ask why tho?
@bufuCS
Ай бұрын
are there like two audio lines overlapping in the sponsor portion? the audio sounds very weird there
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
I’m sorry this is happening to you. and just you.
@toadlguy
Ай бұрын
Is Schwarzenegger 2.0 on vacation, at the gym, or have those digits been in places they are not supposed to be? Enquiring minds want to know!
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
A gentleman never tells
@mannkeithc
Ай бұрын
I got my link from Qualcomm to purchase a Snapdragon Dev Kit for Windows with the Snapdragon X Elite processor, but they a using Arrow Electronic Components as the retailer, and they don't appear to know how to export to the UK if you are purchasing for personal use, so that purchase isn't going to happen. Qualcomm why didn't you use someone like Microsoft Store as your sales outlet, as per the Volterra dev kit? I sometimes wonder if Qualcomm and Microsoft really want to make Windows 11 arm successful, because they often introduce several tripping hazards on route!
@cheve8711
Ай бұрын
they need to add a gpu so it is worth buying for us desingers
@der_klee
Ай бұрын
What do you think about the Surface Pro vs Surface Laptop?
@ChrisAzure
Ай бұрын
This is the video I wanted to see 🙌🏻
@diuran1919
Ай бұрын
can't wait for mini pc windows with snapdragon arm or different company
@ertwro
Ай бұрын
If you could use wsl2 from a Mac that would just put non-Apple machines in the trash for develepoment.
@budgeter4807
Ай бұрын
How do you get the Visual Studio on the Mac? I can't seem to get it!
@SirusStarTV
Ай бұрын
Because it's no longer available, microsoft stopped supporting it. Now it's only possible through VS Code.
@christopherwood12
Ай бұрын
I have pretty much always used windows machines for work and for home. I have a gaming pc, had a i7 12th gen with rtx 4050 dell xps for work as I do business central work in al. And I have to say since getting my wife’s old MacBook Pro I love apples stuff for portable laptops. I can’t justify forking out for a m chip Mac but if I get a new job and it gives a Mac I would definitely give it a go
@JenuelDev
Ай бұрын
I just saw your keyboard,, what keyboard are you using?
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
it’s keychron q1 max
@LiranKo
Ай бұрын
I would love to see how you can install Linux on this windows dev kit and maybe somehow turn it into a nice home server? Maybe a windows server?
@rembrantro
Ай бұрын
Was an interesting drag race
@andrewgrant788
Ай бұрын
Nice keyboard!
@mokotik
Ай бұрын
I wonder why the Python test is better on Voltera than on Elite?
@tofunmifamuwagun
Ай бұрын
I'm just wondering, does the voltera dev kit have the same windows version as the snapdragon x Elite/plus pc's, maybe it's version of windows doesn't have the prism layer and other advancements that make windows for arm soo good
@RaduTek
Ай бұрын
Prism doesn't matter here. He ran ARM native tests. There isn't much the OS can do to optimize native code.
@AlmorTech
Ай бұрын
Keychron should think of sending you a golden keyboard for how many times I was thinking of buying q1 max because of your videos
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
this one weighs as much as gold. never had a heavier keyboard
@IvesSteve
Ай бұрын
I use WSL2in vms every day. just have to enable virtualization with a powershell command.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
are you using a Windows host?
@IvesSteve
Ай бұрын
@@AZisk of course. where else is WSL available?
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
I was referring to the VMs you’re running being hosted on Windows. Because if they weren’t, you can’t run WSL2 yet, you can only run WSL. And if you are hosting your VMs on Windows, what tech stack are you using for the VMs? Thanks
@vasudevmenon2496
Ай бұрын
Did ask msft India about it's availability but they don't sell it officially and had no idea about it. Apple's greatest enemy is itself since m1 and m2 are still relevant
@priyansh7339
Ай бұрын
i my score of speed of meter 3.0 is 25.5 is it good ?
@amirhosseinghasemi8644
14 күн бұрын
Nice video
@bobbastian760
Ай бұрын
Why use a non ortholinear QWERTY keyboard bro. Corne, live changing, fully programmable.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
why would i drink from a glass instead of just having a feeding tube attached to me?
@obinnaokafor6252
Ай бұрын
Kindly benchmark with the new devkit from Qualcomm
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
on the way
@amrmaamoun3726
Ай бұрын
Please tell me , which keyboard is this ?
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
keychron q1 max
@bigfloppa69420
Ай бұрын
4gb for w11 vm? could you test it with 8 at least?
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
this is not a memory bound test
@BrandonLackey
Ай бұрын
I tried to fire up my Volterra the other day... dead lol.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
oh no. what happened to it?
@BrandonLackey
Ай бұрын
@@AZisk I dunno… it powers on but never outputs a display.
@alderonmatt
Ай бұрын
@@BrandonLackey There is a flaw with it where it will only have display output from USB C / HDMI while booted into windows, the BIOS screen will only show output from mini display port adapters with the right active conversion cable. Keep in mind post times can be pretty long
@BrandonLackey
Ай бұрын
@@alderonmatt Thanks! I'll tinker with it some more and see what happens.
@ecu4321
Ай бұрын
Corporate branding is so lame. Why not stick to their original names. Like xbox scorpio, voltera, etc
@raututeodor5625
Ай бұрын
macbook air m2 31 points in speedtest 3
@ranjitmandal1612
Ай бұрын
In Jeffs lastest video he showed his dev was delayed till june 2026
@inamulbhuyan
Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite 🔋🔋🔋💪
@Paro2221
Ай бұрын
Keyboard name and model please. Thanks
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
Keychron Q1 Max - loving it
@Paro2221
Ай бұрын
@@AZisk Thanks!!!
@Desilv
Ай бұрын
i got myself the surface 7 15 inch.. its such a shame there isn't still adreno gpu panel.. also drivers update is lacking behind.. the gpu as well isn't that great.. i just don't get it why microsoft choose for snapdragon instead of AMD after ditching Intel.. AMD strix will destroy the snapdragon in every aspect..
@TalynOne
Ай бұрын
I'm predicting Strix will still run hot and loud.
@codecrusader123
Ай бұрын
Bro create a video about blue screen of death (windows) crowdstrike
@kimeraevent
Ай бұрын
Did you ever increase the RAM in the VM to match what was in the Volterra or the Surface?
@sebastianserwin3416
Ай бұрын
You can use pypy3 instead of python
@sameersheriff7078
Ай бұрын
Nah...mac is still ahead in the game at least in terms of software optimisation
@darksequence6836
Ай бұрын
Nice
@HelloWorlds__JTS
Ай бұрын
You should style your arm hairs.
@AZisk
Ай бұрын
is that what i should do?
@youp1tralala
Ай бұрын
the VM on macOS has only 4GB RAM trololol!
@m.rithvikchowdary956
Ай бұрын
i am planning on a buying a device for ai model training so which one should i choose mac studio m2 max 64gb ram with 38 core gpu or macbook pro m3 pro 36 gb ram 18 core gpu or mac book air 24 gb ram m3 10 core gpu or are ther any other options for $2600
@juliusnadar7802
Ай бұрын
Nvidia 4080 super
@rowaystarco
Ай бұрын
Why would you buy a Macbook for AI model training? Absolute madness. You need an Nvidia GPU with a good deal of Vram.
@rch5395
Ай бұрын
Ah, yes, another intelligent move by Microsoft launching the dev kit after the user devices.
@alexs.5107
Ай бұрын
How s that intelligent
@weinbergfahrer4048
Ай бұрын
@rch5395 You may have missed something here: that Volterra box was introduced a year ago.
@TalynOne
Ай бұрын
Microsoft isn't responsible for launching the dev kit, Qualcomm is.
@gerdya6301
Ай бұрын
It was launched more than a year ago.
@Winnetou17
Ай бұрын
@@alexs.5107 It was sarcastic
@RetroBoxesShop
Ай бұрын
i knew that you made whole idea of video to tell us : Mac is the winner. we meet a lot of videos always same idea, the idea become disgusting. i've tried Mac and windows and i'm Dev. windows all the way
@andyH_England
Ай бұрын
There is objective better which Macs are, but there is subjective better and individuals preference manage that.
@RetroBoxesShop
Ай бұрын
@@andyH_England Objective factors like looking cool. Subjective factors like compatibility and not having to throw away my PC every few years because I can't update Xcode without using new hardware
@AbdolHussain
Ай бұрын
test Flutter
@_uncle_bob_
Ай бұрын
Another test of useless hardware ❤
@Awaken2067833758
Ай бұрын
Why no one understands that X Elite is not a chip? The chip in that laptop is a X1E-80-100, at least it is not the worst of the four X Elite
@andyH_England
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The X Elite is the name of the chips but has different SKUs as you mention. They also have different power-delivery and Windows machines are now a mess for consumers to know what they are buying. At least Apple offers M3, M3 Pro and M3 Max with binned versions to minimise e-waste of subpar cores.
@Awaken2067833758
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@@andyH_England X Elite are all the 12 core Snapdragon X chips and for shure the brands are making a mess where it is not easy finding the specific processor in each machine. I expect a bit more from reviewers
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