DJ Akademiks vs Fresh N Fit Girl Drama ft. Aba And Preach ►kzitem.info/news/bejne/p5uGr4morqVyZKg
@cjcoleman3893
Жыл бұрын
Guess what Erudite, Church is precisely the last place it's acceptable to be aggressive, loud and dominant as a woman, especially if you are being so in a manner that doesn't conform to standard Christian doctrine, morals and beliefs.
@mr.officialkir
Жыл бұрын
I like how Darius punk ass turned off his camera when Aba called him out for saying nigga🤣🤣🤣
@wisemage0
Жыл бұрын
Darius is white.
@anjaxtv
Жыл бұрын
Please please PLEASE next time you have Lav on tell her to stfu!! She ruined to whole thing.
@henkdachief
Жыл бұрын
videos starts at 1:46:30
@therainman7777
Жыл бұрын
Whoever taught this generation the word “unironically” owes the world an apology.
@chigwom7894
Жыл бұрын
We need a new language this shit is terrible
@samira_360
Жыл бұрын
along with gaslight and pick-me
@haydengraves2176
Жыл бұрын
Unironically true
@chigwom7894
Жыл бұрын
@@JINX1441 literally
@Vudoo13
Жыл бұрын
It's so gross.
@Zach0451
Жыл бұрын
Lav pulling the sexist card on Aba quoting her own words is emblematic of everything wrong with her.
@Dielawn69
Жыл бұрын
She did that same shit when Mr.Girl was defending her. She makes statements about herself but when people repeat those statements back she acts like she wasnt the one who described herself that way in the first place.
@sjappiyah4071
Жыл бұрын
Precisely!
@OrderedAffairs
Жыл бұрын
And Aba's response was hilarious
@henkdachief
Жыл бұрын
lav > aba, lav is at least funny aba is just sad and dumb. also "emblematic" who says that
@Zach0451
Жыл бұрын
@@henkdachief You okay bro?
@shwefflemcpooter6733
Жыл бұрын
Been an Aba fan. New fan of Destiny. Just wanna say the Aba & Destiny streams/videos are my favorite crossovers of the decade. Better than Avengers.
@patrickbateman7290
Жыл бұрын
Avengers are pretty garb tbh
@shwefflemcpooter6733
Жыл бұрын
@@patrickbateman7290 I used to love the comics 😭😭 the first Avengers movie wasn't so bad
@escapebeyond7078
Жыл бұрын
ITS JUST LIKE THE HECKIN MOOViES!!!!!!!!!!!!
@goddessrick8734
Жыл бұрын
They're good but let's not get crazy
@shwefflemcpooter6733
Жыл бұрын
@@goddessrick8734 I haven't thoroughly enjoyed any team ups in any context as much as I enjoy the streams/videos that consist of Destiny and Aba. That's just me though. To me it's a pretty entertaining team up enough so that I don't remember enjoying any as much as them in the last 10 years.
@Casper-Ghost
Жыл бұрын
Aba's not acting from a moral highground; he's simply the human embodiment of accountability.
@@j.a.6310 unironic use of cringe is the real cringe
@j.a.6310
Жыл бұрын
@@brickbong7198 send me your home adress im coming after u
@iz2333
Жыл бұрын
@@joemccann5376 your claim of the normavity of their claim about cringe is actually a misuse of the term normativity which I am using to make a normative claim on the use of the term "normative language" which is cringe
@Stratocaster42
Жыл бұрын
"I like how she aggressively plays the victim" was a hilarious line from Sneako.
@henryburton6529
Жыл бұрын
Agreed but ABA basically saying it takes one to know one after was even funnier
@romeda5156
Жыл бұрын
That’s was a good one
@theonlyonewithgum1452
Жыл бұрын
@@henryburton6529 dunks all around 😂
@harrambou9468
Жыл бұрын
Even a broken clock is right twice a day 🤷🏻♂️😂
@awsambdaman
5 ай бұрын
That was funny af
@ghostofonyx51
Жыл бұрын
Sneako unironically being the boy on Xbox live that finds out there’s a girl in the party, god tier
@therainman7777
Жыл бұрын
STOP SAYING ‘UNIRONICALLY’ IN EVERY GODDAMN SENTENCE YOU F’ING ZOMBIE
@renegraider
Жыл бұрын
LMFAOOOO GOLD
@chigwom7894
Жыл бұрын
Destiny owns them all
@mari2099.
Жыл бұрын
Incredibly based sneako, he really has unplugged himself from the matrix and travelled 10 years in the past to when he was 12.
@hybridpsycho
Жыл бұрын
Later he goes "Oh I want everyone to have their cams turned on". OF COURSE YOU DO BUT 5 PEOPLE OR SO HAD THEIRS TURNED OFF AND YOU ONLY ASKED LAV, MORE THAN ONCE. At least accept it when you get called out lol
@siggi4426
Жыл бұрын
can we just hold for a second and appreciate how hilarious aba is? i fucking love this man more and more every stream he is on
@stendaalcartography3436
Жыл бұрын
Ya man. I appreciate the heck out of him and Preach lol.
@lautaroteruelo9923
Жыл бұрын
he's not an orbiter in any way because he's the most successful person in destiny's world.
@EldritchBladesgaming
Жыл бұрын
Really, I dislike him more and more lol
@silenthilll_
Жыл бұрын
@@EldritchBladesgaming what because he has the most common sense?
@ericapaquette9624
Жыл бұрын
@@stendaalcartography3436 Aba and Preach are awesome....but this hot mess i can't believe Aba entertains this 🤦♀️
@AndrewNajash
Жыл бұрын
Haven’t even watched it yet but I’m leaving a preemptive W Aba
@TheOriginalKabelo
Жыл бұрын
Always a safe bet.
@damnedifido1062
Жыл бұрын
We don’t call him Waba for nothing
@acegren2489
Жыл бұрын
@@Chi11monger that's a weird way of spelling Halver
@tnsxpm
Жыл бұрын
@@acegren2489 ong bro spelled his own name wrong lmao what an L 😂
@andrewcox5873
Жыл бұрын
@@damnedifido1062 wabaism
@JohahnDiechter
Жыл бұрын
Aba is treating this drama arc with the poise and respect it deserves.
@jaxsonhammerkawk7436
Жыл бұрын
True!
@ergoth154
Жыл бұрын
So none
@austinpickens7611
Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that Darius was 100 percent right about Lav😂😂
@NikhilShahi
Жыл бұрын
There was no justification for the way Sneako and DJ Ak piled on her. She was incredibly calm and showed those two betas who the alpha was.
@jerome5646
Жыл бұрын
L take there's no such thing as an alpha female. Simp harder tho all power to you hoping for her acknowledgment.
@angelganggirl
Жыл бұрын
@@jerome5646 give it up , we know you’re 11
@jerome5646
Жыл бұрын
@@angelganggirl ah a projection nice to see them, please continue to know nothing about me and assume that you do it's amusing to watch the clowns that litter the circus.
@ioiioooio193
Жыл бұрын
@@jerome5646 nah you need to grow up, you showed your age by acting like what ak and sneako did made ANY sense whatsoever.
@immanuelcunt7296
Жыл бұрын
I don't think Sneako was really on Ak's team
@Mr_Pickles_
Жыл бұрын
Here for some Aba dunks.
@damnedifido1062
Жыл бұрын
@@bettercallseoul1504 bot
@Mr_Pickles_
Жыл бұрын
@@bettercallseoul1504 truuuuuuu
@urbanl2213
Жыл бұрын
Porn addiction doesnt start out hardcore. You start out softcore and end up with hardcore shit. She doesnt see she is literally just part off the rest off this mess.
@lorddj9910
Жыл бұрын
Exactly it’s basically almost like a drug addiction
@urbanl2213
Жыл бұрын
@@lorddj9910 almost. But when people say "weed is a gateway drug" i would say not in the same way that soft core porn is the gateway to hardcore porn. It seems to be that almost any and everybody that watches porn has to watch progressively more hardcore stuff over time.
@A0142-m1j
Жыл бұрын
@@urbanl2213 you are missing one key detail tho. Porn addiction requires an addictive personality. Without it, you won't necessarily go down the rabbit hole of porn and develope a crippling addiction.
@orionfell
Жыл бұрын
I feel like porn addiction 100% starts out hardcore. yes everyone sees soft core first, but pretty quickly most people switch to hardcore but still wouldn’t consider themselves addicted. it’s at that point where some start to develop an addiction
@Yor_gamma_ix_bae
Жыл бұрын
I cant stand hardcore porn personally.
@sophiaalexia8271
Жыл бұрын
Why is it everytime Lav is on a stream on this channel, it's literally 80% her talking the whole time? Please make use of the mute button more Destiny..
@awsambdaman
5 ай бұрын
Honestly I was kinda shocked everyone spent so much time talking about her. I mean you can say it’s bad because they infantilize her (which I agree, bad for everyone) but it is an aspect of privilege. People probably wouldn’t be that focused on helping her if she was a man
@timothyfogwill2627
Жыл бұрын
Aba starts speaking. Lav interrupts him. Aba continues to speak. Destiny: "whoa whoa let her finish" 🙃🙃🙃
@stendaalcartography3436
Жыл бұрын
Sneako: I stand for truth! Also Sneako: Hey Aba, why are you so obsessed with the truth? Aba: Cuz you're bullshitting to gain In the meanwhile: DARIUS LOSES HIS SHIT lol wtf
@jackmcbride9046
Жыл бұрын
Sneako: nobody should have a job everyone should make content Sneako: look at all these people using me for content it’s sad
@Theonewhoknocks111
Жыл бұрын
He said moral police which is different if you didn’t know
@bargaingoldandsilver
Жыл бұрын
@@Theonewhoknocks111 It’s called a hyperbole
@incinerati
Жыл бұрын
It's Squeako*
@BOAYang
Жыл бұрын
Man tried to hide the contexts but Aba wasn’t letting it slide
@NgryMosquito
Жыл бұрын
35:41 Best moment imho: ABA: "You called me a mysogynist based of very litte earlier.." Lav:"It was not based of little (2x). Literally posted this in chat like a fkin day ago: 'Wants to ban mysogyny, brings on Lav the next day" ... I lost it.
@trevsoda
Жыл бұрын
wow this was such a great discussion, i'm really happy so many people joined to give their honest & well thought-out opinions
@MelloDeeBeats
Жыл бұрын
Good sarcasm
@TriceratopsUnicorn
Жыл бұрын
So much for Lav going on break. Can't even escape her for a week, what a nightmare.
@demon3203
Жыл бұрын
This why i hate most people that just "debate" and shit like that. They mostly hypocrites and don't acknowledge it. Darius yelling about how he told her that you need to treat people how you want to be treated while attacking her and aba. Lav talking about how sex work isn't good and continuing to do it under the guise of "I'm doing it in the non toxic non destructive way". sneako talking about women not taking accountability for their actions then gets banned on youtube after breaking TOS multiple times and acting like the ban fell out of the sky. I'm sure the list goes on and on for just about everyone on the call. Biggest advice that i can give anyone is simple. When you comes across people online or in person who feel they should talk about rights and wrongs and do and don'ts all the time like they are filled with infinite knowledge and wisdom. You cut that person the fuck out of you life and avoid them as much as possible. They are some of the worst kinds of law abiding people you could ever associate with.
@Lauren_567
Жыл бұрын
Oof. Took the words right out of my mouth 👏🏿👏🏿
@Laughingcoyote1213
Жыл бұрын
💯 Love this comment. I've dealt with people who think they are always right and will play on words when called out about their "facts." Truly insufferable people who remind me of some of the people on this panel.
@nelty0987654321
Жыл бұрын
Based
@stryfe0
Жыл бұрын
You still tuned in
@tecategpt1959
Жыл бұрын
@@stryfe0 how does this any way contradict his comment
@SovereignSmurf
Жыл бұрын
How to get your point across in a chat with more than 3 people: Step 1: Don't enter the chat Step 2: Profit
@tylerlarkins6829
Жыл бұрын
Ahrevelant?
@bobzombie2710
Жыл бұрын
@@tylerlarkins6829 you wish.
@ravenstrike533
Жыл бұрын
Darius works best in cameo appearances where new people have to react to how he acts. It's genuinely gold.
@doctordungus7774
Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of him before but he came in with a BLISTERING summary of everything I would have said about Lav. He's based af holy shit.
@tonybablony2041
Жыл бұрын
I was like wtf a white dude saying the n word, based asf
@johnb125
Жыл бұрын
Who is the guy? KZitemr or twitch streamer?
@yellowtitan6040
Жыл бұрын
Screaming = funny
@kengbop3586
Жыл бұрын
@@doctordungus7774 that’s why i wish more people would listen to him when he talks about her cuz nothing he’s saying is wrong that’s what we see
@baby_ghoul
Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with Kyla and Aba. Women are put under a microscope in Destiny's community, but the moment you use that as a crutch in a debate, you've lost completely. The reason Lav in particular gets so much hate is because she's a woman in her mid twenties that gets babied by Destiny. That is a relationship dynamic that she participates in, so when she talks to Aba and Kyla as if they're on equal footing, it's grating. That double standard and contradiction is still something that a lot of young men in Destiny's community struggle with in regards to women. In their mind if women want equal respect, they need to give up their preferential treatment, and the key difference here is they think the majority of women do not, which is why Aba is right that Lav is the worst person to introduce to these men. Lav is symbolic of many of the issues they think most women exhibit. She not only expects to be taken seriously despite the fact she's not held to the same standards as everyone else, but she also wants to be able to insult others without accepting that when she goes there, it's a a two-way street. Aba's point was that she's such an extreme example that it's difficult having her in a community with so few women.
@radred609
Жыл бұрын
Lav criticising kyla for "feeding into sexist tropes" by being competent was the real icing on the cake
@brianmeen2158
Жыл бұрын
Very very few women will give up that preferential treatment though. It’s in their dna to utilize it
@lavellelee5734
Жыл бұрын
God damn you deserve of a noble peace prize
@desmondpowell3205
Жыл бұрын
Aba’s a clout chaser, the dude is a horrible person that lied on Myron Gaines multiple times. He and preach just make hit pieces all day to get clout! This dude is the worst person to look up too.
@dylaroo24
Жыл бұрын
I like how Lav gets done making a point about intentions then immediately assumes that Stardust and cherry wanted to ruin Mr.girls life just like she assumed cherry was lying instead of being wrong.
@TheSurgePhoenix
Жыл бұрын
Easiest way to summarize is that Lav is generally disliked not because she is a woman or neurodivergent, but because she comes into conversations with strong points in an aggressive manner, acts super smug (perhaps justified in some cases but others it comes off as cheeky), will speak or act with little forethought then has to walk back points, and historically tends to deflect and play into a victim sort of role when confronted (whether intentionally or not). That said, if she has been learning from her past episodes as she claims then I feel like the community will generally adapt a better perception but its definitely NOT there and likely won't be for some time.
@navonmyhand7999
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I haven't paid anything much to this arc but everything I see with Lav gives me this impression about her.
@ericapaquette9624
Жыл бұрын
Um she's a stereotype that is trying so hard to defend herself and prove that she isn't a stereotype but deep down she knows....it's cringe.
@Bentbire
Жыл бұрын
I think what’s most frustrating watching all of the Lav videos is that she doesn’t seem to want to make any upfront changes. She’s said in the past that she doesn’t get why people expect her to change immediately, which is fair in a lot of ways. But where I don’t agree with her on in regards to that is when there are clear behaviors that she can change in the moment, like cutting people off mid point. Honestly, if think if she was willing to let people talk more she’d be a lot less irritating to a lot of people. Another thing that I think she could change is how she immediately frames people against her in a really uncharitable light. That does require I little more internal thinking, but I believe if she just stopped attacking peoples character and instead challenged what they said she’d be better off optically. Example: when she calls Aba a misogynist, I don’t think there’s anywhere to really go from there vs if she had come at it from the perspective of “The way you respond to me comes across as misogynistic” she’d still be challenging them on how they characterize her but there’s more room for discussion and she wouldn’t come across as lashing out (which is something I think a lot of people see her as doing).
@vibe_m8894
Жыл бұрын
@@Bentbire you should make this its own comment not a reply (my opinion your choice I just think it'd be better as its own thing)
@he.5865
Жыл бұрын
What are you? A fkn tape recorder?
@siggi4426
Жыл бұрын
I can understand why people are so upset about this entire thing. I mean destiny literally just won't admit that he has a girls name
@theradninja4666
Жыл бұрын
these always get me
@PR-lf1qr
Жыл бұрын
Can destiny please go back to discussing provocative political topics. I’m literally so sick of this lame, teeny boppin, chronically online streamer drama. Nobody cares
@dunhelo5233
Жыл бұрын
True this is f trash
@aaroncarl2493
Жыл бұрын
For real. I mean destiny did start out in the underground online universe with his kill stream appearances...but he has grown... this shit is literary reality TV drama bs
@MrCubassss
Жыл бұрын
he'll loop back eventually. still, this is 10042069x better than league content
@andrewcox5873
Жыл бұрын
This didn’t realize come across as streamer drama to me, maybe I’m off base, but more of a debate on misogyny. Maybe not the most conventional format but I thought there were some interesting points being made, admittedly mostly just by Destiny and Aba
@MinecraftGod69420
Жыл бұрын
Can't we just talk about the political and economic state of the world right now guys cmon 🤣🤣🤣 shut tf up PR
@deadeyerye
Жыл бұрын
Aba: "Lav is just a pretty hateable person" Wicked: "No, she's not a hateable person, she's-" *describes a very hateable person*
@gg-uq6zm
Жыл бұрын
Sneako kept roasting and attacking that Brazilian chick and is now acting like it was just playful banter.
@desmondpowell3205
Жыл бұрын
Dude why the f@ck are you defending her, I’ve seen her type time and time again. She uses men all day. She literally cheats on her husband! This lady is trash and you’re defending her like she’s mother Teresa! F is wrong with ya, man up.
@yestheycan
Жыл бұрын
Lol! lav wants to be taken serious while simoustaneously behaving like a toddler
@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716
Жыл бұрын
The problem between erudite and lav is because erudite is respectful, lav's main problem is her attitude. She is fully allowed to change her mind and yeah sometimes she doesn't phrase those in the best way. It's her attitude because she shouts over people, hurls out slurs and bad names, complains, talks bad about people on other people's streams and then the minute she is confronted, she does puppy dog eyes and if that doesn't work she cries and feels sorry for herself. That's so rich of her to say that people should kill themselves if they can't handle internet drama when she was crying on stream about how Steven didn't protect her feelings. That's what makes people so crazy. She could absolutely do well in the space since she is pretty and has a strong personality and a clear voice, but she is SO defensive and combative. I love Steven but he defended her like 8 times. I really wish she could just stop being so reactive and combative all the time, like listen to what people are saying rather than formulating your response WHILE they're talking.
@AspienWaifu
Жыл бұрын
He treats her like she's 16 lol I'm beginning to wonder if they have a thing going on off-stream, just speculating though
@mrodo5175
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Erudite queen of respect taking the chance to accuse MrGirl of lying while he isn't present. Destiny even had to cut her off to stop it
@ChrisJones-lc1ti
Жыл бұрын
Lav has made me actually appreciate Sneako despite just being Sneako with a wig, at least his stupidity is entertaining. She is just infuriating, she is simply an unlikable person who has an inability to change or learn a thing despite having an empty skull.
@orionfell
Жыл бұрын
they both say some retarded shit. sneakos views are definitely worse but he’s 100 times more bearable to listen to than lav
@ChrisJones-lc1ti
Жыл бұрын
@@orionfell On paper, Sneako is a worse person overall but Lav manages to be top 3 most unlikable and unbearable person on the internet for me.
@kaostale
Жыл бұрын
ABA = accountability Kaylin = acknowledgement Dan = normie Brittany= spirituality
@Stizzfoshizz
Жыл бұрын
“It’s just jokes bro” exactly what kids say when something they start escalates beyond their control. Sneako got let off easy here imo
@immanuelcunt7296
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, "it's just jokes" can be a pussy excuse, but it's also sometimes true. And in Sneako's case he was clearly teasing
@andrewcox5873
Жыл бұрын
Sneako’s last appearance was him explaining “all jokes have truth in them”, but now they are “just jokes”. Giving me whiplash
@immanuelcunt7296
Жыл бұрын
@Dank Waifu Maybe you're right, but it seemed to me like it was. And I think we should give Sneako the benefit of the doubt on this because he does legitimately believe in the idea of comedically going back and forth on insults.
@immanuelcunt7296
Жыл бұрын
@@thefeverdream I don't think so, time stamp it if you can but I don't remember him getting mad. He repeated the same thing because when he made the pubes jab, she took it seriously and he was saying it again with a smile to make it playful. And she didn't take it like that. He was being provocative but I don't think he was offended. And yes, the banter was garbage, but that's not the point. Funny and unfunny jokes come out of the same place.
@dalminehoff8985
Жыл бұрын
Ngl sneako earned a giant w from me when he said lavs strategy was aggressively victimizing herself
@6thphantom808
Жыл бұрын
Lmao Darius incoherent rants are a burst of energy
@jimbothegymbro7086
Жыл бұрын
I love his chihuahua energy
@phantasticmrphasma9874
Жыл бұрын
@@jimbothegymbro7086 hes horrible
@jimbothegymbro7086
Жыл бұрын
@@phantasticmrphasma9874 just like a chihuahua
@tylercsm4690
Жыл бұрын
@@jimbothegymbro7086 exactly. You want to kick him in the face but he's also kind of adorable
@TheBaconBasket1
Жыл бұрын
As a black person I cringe at him referring to a panel of mostly white people as "niggas" though. Like relax man lol
@nineteen96
Жыл бұрын
Destiny needs to stop defending Lav and stopping her from hearing shit she needs to hear. She's been sheltered from it which is probably why she thinks everything she's hearing is misogynistic in nature.
@francothesucc9701
Жыл бұрын
Naw, the anti-Lav circlejerk is cringe as fuck. The one thing I value, and I think most other people value, in Destiny is his consistency. We all like bloodsports, we all love the dunks, but there are plenty of examples of people getting carried away with their criticisms of Lav without taking a step back and realizing that they’re not impervious to fucking up in very similar ways (i.e. Chaeiry) Destiny isn’t against criticism, but he rightfully steps in when people start with their “holier than thou” energy.
@nineteen96
Жыл бұрын
@@francothesucc9701 I know what you think he's trying to do but he's not. He does that all the time but with Lav, it's different. Dude literally jumps in and saves her from taking accountability and explaining herself. If she can't do it herself then she shouldn't exist in that sphere. Especially given the fact that she can't learn from her behaviour and backtracks constantly. She's going to be called out; it's inevitable. If she can't handle her own and needs people to explain what they think she means just so it lightens the load on her then I think it's bogus and she deserves the "circle-jerk".
@JimC607
Жыл бұрын
@@francothesucc9701 Calling it an "anti-lav circlejerk" is cringe as fuck. I bet you've never said something like "anti-vowsh circlejerk" or "anti-hasan circlejerk". Why is Lav getting so much preferential treatment by so many people? The amount of defence and damage control people are running for her is kinda shocking, especially with Steve, he treats her with kid gloves way more than any other person he's EVER had on stream.
@francothesucc9701
Жыл бұрын
@@nineteen96 “but with Lav, its different” Just sounds like a huge cope to me from someone desperately wanting to justify their priors.
@francothesucc9701
Жыл бұрын
@@JimC607 I dislikes baseless spiteful circlejerking regardless of who its towards-thats why I even appreciated Steven’s anti-jerk bans on his subreddit. Ive counted several times in this very stream where Steven or Lav herself had to step in and correct someone’s god awful mischaracterization of her position, and the only reason im focusing on Lav right now is because the comment I was responding to was specifically in reference to her. I don’t mind criticism, ive even criticized Lav before; but even when Connor actually took the time to layout the very valid arguments Lav has made before, the entire chat was weirdchamping him, calling him a cuck/simp, or blatantly admitting they weren’t listening or didn’t care. Obviously there’s a bias against her-sure she doesnt help when she cant articulate her underlying points in the best way-but the bias clearly exists.
@wout4yt
Жыл бұрын
“Watch your thoughts, they become your words; watch your words, they become your actions; watch your actions, they become your habits; watch your habits, they become your character; watch your character, it becomes your destiny.” Lao Tzu
@DivumSominum
Жыл бұрын
Before this triggers her sensibilities let me say: I love all women, my mother is the model for my moral compass and women are, on average from my experience, more mature. I don't hate women. That being prefaced... Lav hurts my brain. She wants to be taken seriously but at the same time she needs to be coddled by Destiny but also she doesn't want people infantalizing her but also you can't treat her too roughly or she's super aggressive and won't let you get your appoint across. If you're not agreeing with Lav then you're offending her in some way or other. I've heard her excuse herself multiple times by saying that she's "new to this" so she's still learning but you can't be "new to this" forever. At some point it's not your lack of experience but lack of ability and this has nothing to do with her being a woman and everything to do with her personality. If you're reading this, Lav. I don't hate you. I just think this space is not for you and it has nothing to do with your chromosomes. Just about every time I hear you talk, it's to say something inane or self-centered and when you hide behind the "misogyny shield" you're not doing yourself any favors because you're showing your lack of wit. The average viewer probably doesn't even care when you're wrong about something. Most of the backlash is about how you go about being wrong. You are lacking the temperament AND knowledge to properly converse with the people in this space. And note that I say people because there are plenty of women I've seen on this stream who fit that bill(likewise there are have been plenty of guys who I wish I would never have to hear from again for the same reasons). The people watching Destiny aren't here to listen to people rant about their emotional attachment style and how that dictates their day to day life so when you throw a fit over the backlash you get for it you're just digging a deeper hole.
@tartagilia2448
Жыл бұрын
Bro when Darius said I'm about to have a N**** moment I fucking died laughing
@pizzatime8917
Жыл бұрын
The shit aba said about Darius being a Bollywood actor had me fuckin rolling dude.
@honorableh
Жыл бұрын
"TURN YOUR CAMARA ON" SNEAKO
@beardy3792
Жыл бұрын
No idea who "darius" is... But him spitting at the camera and having a temper tantrum while on mute was a super red flag. LOL
@deathforsaker88
Жыл бұрын
This is not the first time he had a burst and rant on debates with lav.
@diego032912
Жыл бұрын
He does this all the time it's comedy gold
@erodey3133
Жыл бұрын
@@diego032912 fr shits funny
@jimbothegymbro7086
Жыл бұрын
I thought it was hilarious personally, he should rant on mute more to get it out of his system
@billybadass8690
Жыл бұрын
I like how he randomly appears in streams just to scream at everyone then leave
@Mesterchief117
Жыл бұрын
About Erudite being more "matriarchal", its being applied to her but she has never stated that is her intention, like she said, she brings logic, facts, reasoning and calmness. she's not doing this because she as a woman has to or what a woman should be like but what she think is the best way for her as a person to navigate the space. In other words the intent behind it isn't matriarchal but Lav is applying it to her, that's not Erudites problem but Lavs.
@xanderjohnson8719
Жыл бұрын
"I love how she can aggressively play the victim" "Hey, Sneako are you a Mexican"
@PPSainity
Жыл бұрын
Destiny gets tunnel vision sometimes, and in this discussion it made him utterly fail to understand Wicked's point on why some posters say "I love women" Wicked is not saying they are posting "I love women" because they are afraid of critiquing women, but are themselves making a critique of the anti-misogyny arc. They probably feel that that critiques of women are being stifled or being discounted after being mislabeled. EDIT: @ 1:38:55 Wicked confirmed what I thought, finally able to speak and flesh out what he was trying to say.
@PPSainity
Жыл бұрын
@@webdesigntutz something is only coping if not true. As for drama, it can be entertaining but not at the expense of all reason.
@troyknights3342
Жыл бұрын
Darius had a good point, he just said it the worst way possible. If she’s saying that people should kill themselves when they don’t like things, I don’t get why everyone is treating her like some baby.
@marmite_popsicle
Жыл бұрын
Because of benevolent sexism aka, female preferential treatment aka sexism against men
@MENACE-km6bd
Жыл бұрын
@@marmite_popsicle from men though. That's the irony no one's addressing. Men allow their problems. Women allow their problems. And we allow injustice for our convenience.
@marmite_popsicle
Жыл бұрын
@@MENACE-km6bd ok. And now? How does that change the situation? I hate women complain about benevolent sexism (like lav did) because they are literally complaining About a privilege
@be8420
Жыл бұрын
Aba had me dying during this! Also, let's open this up to the floor.
@Gabreyes093
Жыл бұрын
Lav's stance on Erudite being more matriarchal in her delivery is a valid point. She is calmer, more respectful, and when she pushes back, from what I've seen, she approaches it by making the other person see fault in their argument rather than attack it head on. This does not take away the logic in her reasoning. Lav is more aggressive in her communication style but doesn't hold the same logic. The fault is in how she communicates her ideas. When Steven pops off he is capable of maintaining logic and coherency. This might be my inner misogyny peaking through, but Lav doesn't have the same caliber of reasoning when in a heightened state of emotion
@Mesterchief117
Жыл бұрын
The problem is there are three possible reasons Lav isn't coherent in a heightened state of emotion, 1. Her being a woman 2. her being young 3. her personality. Most likely its probably due to her being young and her personality is like that but most people in the space might view it because she's a woman.
@Gabreyes093
Жыл бұрын
@@Mesterchief117 I agree. Being in this space also requires her to be more clear and concise. Hopefully she absorbs and improves from the feedback she is given
@animeruinedmylife9833
Жыл бұрын
@@Mesterchief117 being a white woman means ur more likely to have a certain personality type/behaviour pattern. that's really all it is.
@Kuroganemk2
Жыл бұрын
Why do you think its misogyny on your part, that kind of came out of nowhere, can't you not disagree with a woman or point out her faults without being a misogenist lol?
@MO-zk8qs
Жыл бұрын
@@Kuroganemk2 it might just be the hypersensitivity to misogyny in here I think it’s making everyone a little paranoid
@trashdoge1217
Жыл бұрын
"lav you speak like 80% of the time" "NO I DON'T" She really is deluded like she actually doesn't see her own actions in the way others see them
@mode4148
Жыл бұрын
Aba is savage
@minecraftvvg4250
Жыл бұрын
aba roasting SNEKO is G lvl
@1hunnid544
Жыл бұрын
Sneako deflects so so so so damn much! Keep calling him out. He a buster!
@goldtiger9453
Жыл бұрын
Bro are you a sanandreas npc ?
@1hunnid544
Жыл бұрын
@@goldtiger9453 maybe
@Kanecobond
Жыл бұрын
Destiny you need to stop running interference for Lav and bailing her out, especially on her Erudite statement that she made off the cuffs... again without thinking, shocker I know!... you literally reframed her attack and removed all the vitriol and a big part of her criticism, that to me sounded like it came from a place of insecurity & pure petty-like envy, and that is that she claimed... that she has made herself the way she is to fit in and not considering that's just how Erudite grew up like or that she may have some masculine traits or a bit tomboy-ish... like intentionally, I'm paraphrasing but that's literally what she meant... It completely undermines Erudite as a person and makes her out to be a Token women for the Male community as well as 'acting' to be likeable, implying that Erudite is fake in the way that she portrays herself and that she is just pandering, as well as gaming the system... Sounds like projection, especially when I hear her talk about 'content', which in some instances drives Destiny mad... because she frames a lot of things are being done because of cOnTeNt! This whole constant mispeaking is just a way to avoid responsibility. I don't think she's dumb, I think she says A LOT of dumb shit... which I guess in a way makes her dumb. It's a repeated pattern of behavior, she always needs to defend herself and walk back everything... that's why people don't seem to like her, myself included, as Dan would say... Snaky behavior, and Aba sees through this shit too. Hiss Hiss Hiss 🐍
@drdaddydarkie164
Жыл бұрын
Darius is the embodiment of unhinged chaos somehow making me laugh. He's as purely unhinged and Psycho as I can imagine and I love how nobody takes him seriously
@slaydog5102
Жыл бұрын
Aba should pull his pants up before he talks.
@SirFingerLickin
Жыл бұрын
Sneako and Lav in the same conversation? This is gonna be unbearable.
@Anfallhund
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit I haven't even started watching the video but reading that made me have an aneurism.
@owenleal
Жыл бұрын
I can already feel my will to live ebbing away from the intro alone.
@Thewesmen67
Жыл бұрын
@@Anfallhund your face gives me a aneurism
@Anfallhund
Жыл бұрын
@@Thewesmen67 ok
@mesut3284
Жыл бұрын
muh s*xwork, muh satanic rituals
@allelitememesaem3916
Жыл бұрын
WABA!!! Darius joins and is immediately disrespectful then acts surprised when he's not taken serious LOL
@nelty0987654321
Жыл бұрын
Based
@hjalmar8986
Жыл бұрын
This Lav girls summary is just one quote after saying something stupid or mean "that's not what I was saying, I´m sorry". Then she lies by saying that she said what the other person claims she should have said. It's unreal.
@olo_smooth_olo5606
Жыл бұрын
It's weird to me, she just isn't that smart. I listen to a lot of these Lav episodes and everything I laugh at how dishonest and unintelligent she is. She's not dumb but she is incredibly pretensious.
@animatorbroman3710
Жыл бұрын
Destiny is only trying to remove misogyny from his community because she realized that she is a woman’s name.
@C1umsyJester
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I just like erudite’s stuff because she’s competent. Every time lav explains herself one way, she completely fucks up then explains it another way, then completely fucks up, then someone has to come in and save her and she’s like “yeah that’s what I meant” it’s beyond frustrating. Shes interrupting 3 times over, insults someone, then can’t rationalise her own position, then expects to be able to keep going with no basis for anything for what she’s saying. Idk about you guys but I like to have a conversation once, it slows the entire conversation down because the discussion turns into “what do you mean?” Instead of “here’s why I agree/disagree with the points you made”
@klove5974
Жыл бұрын
I don’t watch Erudite’s at all. i’ve gotten bits and pieces of her on Destiny’s stuff every now and then when I watch him. The fact that she is articulate and succinct for the most part from what I’ve seen.
@giogonzalez8908
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, Lav is a hatable person lol, i understand she’s young and has great intentions, but you all give her advice and she says she takes in the advice but then goes back and does the same thing she did before. It’s annoying to me tbh cause it’s pure ignorance not her vocabulary as she says
@zaktilzer5130
Жыл бұрын
This is what group is like in rehab when the counselor steps out to take a phone call for 5 minutes.
@andrewcox5873
Жыл бұрын
Been there lol
@drdoomer8553
Жыл бұрын
Saying you can see someone’s hair through their underwear isn’t even hardly a joke, straight up weird asf
@rohanjarande
Жыл бұрын
It was the adult varient of the "ew he/she has kooties" type of lie/joke. It was made purely to influence how people will remember/percive her & her words.
@Gemerl
Жыл бұрын
I mean..... was it true tho
@TheKomentor
Жыл бұрын
How about a little bit of criticism for the person who wore something that exposed their underwear to the world?
@nightfighter7452
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKomentor nah, stop being weird
@lorddj9910
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKomentor you’re weird bro
@herzeleid9525
Жыл бұрын
Seeing Sneako smoke a cigar makes me feel like calling CPS.
@AwkwardSplatter
Жыл бұрын
Lol that opener is hilarious Aba gives an accurate representation of what happens.. SneakO: why are you obsessed with me
@jacksteal4792
Жыл бұрын
“Lab shut the fuck up and listen.” Favorite line 48:12
@GammaTheatre
Жыл бұрын
I love when destiny randomly brings in Darius at the most chaotic moments to nuke the entire fucking panel 😂😂 he is completely unhinged and dialed up to 11 every time. I hope the next arc shows so background and character development for his character.
@diedforurwins
Жыл бұрын
ABA: *Speaks* Lav: YOU ARE INHERENTLY ______😂
@IAmBearTank
Жыл бұрын
It almost feels like she need you to say "Good job at being a good person! You're so awesome for focusing on your own morals!!" 💀
@AUser-t6n
Жыл бұрын
Lav had the right idea when she tried to explain why Erudite is "universally beloved". Erudite's demeanor is respectful, measured, professional, she is never involved in drama, you don't expect crazy outbursts or wild takes from her. This makes it easy to like her. But others like Lav, Destiny or Mrgirl are much more turbulent and have lots of quirks that make it easy to have a strong (negative) opinion about them. This doesn't take away from Erudite's expertise or hard work. It's simply her personality and demeanor.
@radred609
Жыл бұрын
lav was right about by people like kyla. She was wrong that kyla somehow feeds mysoginistic tropes
@EmpressRoselinde
Жыл бұрын
Really?? 2 hour video and 10 minutes about the DJ akademiks drama??? Nice clickbeat dude jeez
@AkaiKnight
Жыл бұрын
Why is lav pretending that men don’t get called bitches and why is nobody calling her in that.
@Sunnywastakentoo
Жыл бұрын
Aba isn't even an orbiter, he's just a top tier content moon.
@Z--..
Жыл бұрын
He's got way more followers than Destiny so it would make no sense to call him an orbiter by any measure
@jerichojones2722
Жыл бұрын
@@Z--.. yeah aba is literally a star, destiny is a planet and everyone else is the asteroid belt.
@Randompersondoesntmatter
Жыл бұрын
ABA is a blue pilled cuck
@shihoblade
Жыл бұрын
Never even heard of any of these people before Aba.
@Lhoyte1
Жыл бұрын
@@shihoblade same bro
@damnedifido1062
Жыл бұрын
Always good to see WABA catching bodies on these panels. He buried that man Leako six feet under and used Lav and his headstone
@terrootti
Жыл бұрын
Lav's point is "I want people to react to me the same way they react to erudite even though we have differant way of acting AND if you don't agree with this you're sexist"
@sjappiyah4071
Жыл бұрын
When Lav said eurodite was successful because she’s well spoken and confident and that not all women have to fit that mold, I wanted to shoot myself. Everyone needs to fit that mold regardless of gender to be successful. That’s the problem with Lav , she blames the fact that people appreciate other types of behaviours over here as “misogyny “
@BonDijon
Жыл бұрын
i think shes bad at getting her point across, but i feel she meant Erudite is all that AND the delivery people expect from women. like a guy can be blunt when they argue, or polite, but women have to err more on polite else risk their opinion being discounted simply bc "they are being a bitch".
@se7ensiinz
Жыл бұрын
*Man interact with woman* Woman: “you’re literally doing misogyny right now!” That word has lost all meaning…
@VelCroweBar
Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand why people baby Lav. Almost everyone on the panel steelmaned her position for her when as a content creator, that's supposed to be her job.
@ericwall2355
Жыл бұрын
I cannot bear myself to listen to any video with Lav it is infuriating. How it goes: *say something* - *anyone replies and say that thats kind weird/mean/inconsistent* - "Thats not what I meant" aaaaand repeat.
@AvaAyamaVT
Жыл бұрын
Lav trying to not prove their point by immediately proving their point about why she is disliked for the way she speaks and her never thinking 😐
@oneeyejack3043
Жыл бұрын
Lav talking like people hate her or hold her to different standards because she is a woman, but she just sounds so egotistical most of the time. I'd hate her even if she was a man i don't get her point
@Rage4meBozo
Жыл бұрын
I love how Destiny always just chills and laughs about everything going on lmfao
@brysonius
Жыл бұрын
BASED
@lindyxyo4254
Жыл бұрын
I always find it the most annoying fucking part about him. Other than his comment per hour being "based", or "true" after someone says something while clacking away on his autistic factories. How the hell is that your favorite part?
@robkennedy5906
Жыл бұрын
"That was a beautiful eulogy, anyone else?" - Aba
@TheAliceQuo
Жыл бұрын
I'm 15 minutes in and this is by far the funniest shit I've seen all year. The banter in this group when it's left unchecked is second to none.
@ignithas3150
Жыл бұрын
Destiny's take on 1984 is factually wrong. The main theme of the book is to convey the reader how dangerous fascists regime can be by showing the absolute control they can and are willing to employ, the ruthlessnes to maintain said power and how those regimes are at the bottom line a net negative for the vast majority of people.
@ImortalZeus13
Жыл бұрын
Darius only exists to have Aba treat him like the wayward child he is.
@help2730
Жыл бұрын
Love Darius coming in for the comedic relief. Really helps the whole Lav stress dream we've been living in the last week.
@aaacowsad6388
Жыл бұрын
What's his channel?
@seanclemons9262
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s distracting and a waste of time. It just detracts from an actual intelligent conversation and turns it into something akin to an ishowspeed stream.
@rumplespewskin6718
Жыл бұрын
@@seanclemons9262 are you trying to say that this orbiter drama is intelligent in the first place? What is going on holy cow. The past two weeks has been mind rotting, and your saying it's intelligent?
@seanclemons9262
Жыл бұрын
@@rumplespewskin6718 No. I’m saying any chance of it being productive is ruined by his 5th grade horny kid level rants. Sure it’s stupid drama, but his brand is especially stupid. He just turns his gain up and yells stupid shit. There is a reason no one on the calls want him to stick around long. He has nothing of substance to say. To each their own, but I don’t see the comedy either.
@von3363
Жыл бұрын
He’s too emotional and he yells too much it’s kind of annoying. Even when he does make a point I can’t bother to listen because of all of the screaming.
@El_Sharko_
Жыл бұрын
Aba is fucking hilarious
@he.5865
Жыл бұрын
The fact that this comment section is so positive to idiots and negative to actual intelligent people, jfc. 2 sd between the average of the groups, so you're probably wrong ;).
@leg_wale9130
Жыл бұрын
@@he.5865 w.t.f are you even talking about?🤨
@he.5865
Жыл бұрын
@@leg_wale9130 It's called a dog whistle, duh.
@user-gv1ud2oq1w
Жыл бұрын
1:21:30 I cant speak for every person using the "I love women" meme but generally it seems like when its used its being used ironically because that person is scared of going in on a woman and seeming mysognistic, Destiny doesnt realize that just because its his community doesnt mean only his opinion on how that person looks matters which is what aba and the other guy were trying to get him to understand, a DGGer might be a DGGer but they still have an individual reputation to uphold that matters to them.
@sharsasuke01
Жыл бұрын
Aba is like Destiny's auto pilot. He just enters the chat and takes over managing the discussion while Destiny builds his rockets.
@slaydog5102
Жыл бұрын
Aba is smart for one of them.
@zahubshahid7944
Жыл бұрын
SneakO at the end saying "can I get a discount on Patreon real quick" was hilarious
@Creedawg
Жыл бұрын
"you look like a Bollywood actor" is hilarious
@LowekeysPiano
Жыл бұрын
I Dont know how we are sitting around pretending Darius sayin 'Nigga' like its nothing- is normal or okay
@creationanddestruction7550
Жыл бұрын
Sneako trash😂😂the justification nah I saw tha akademics plane old bullying
@alyssajchase
Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. If there are women who are Destiny fans and are in the community like me, we can take fucking criticism. lol Also if Destiny wants to fix the misogyny in his community, why doesnt he start inviting women that are actually likeable!
@BluntforceJ
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm wrong but I think in general, men don't want to hear women speak especially if they have high pitched voices.
@frumtheground
Жыл бұрын
Because most of the other "good ones" don't want on to Destiny's channel because of the misogyny. Destiny said it himself in the original stream. With the exception of Erudite and a few others, I guess it says a lot if Lav was what he could get lol. Hopefully he'll find someone better, or Lav improves (which I don't see happening anytime soon if at all).
@joevile240
Жыл бұрын
@@frumtheground He just needs to find people with thicker skin. Hell, get ShoeOnHead and she memelord herself.
@alotofpplz3696
Жыл бұрын
I actually super appreciate counterpoints contribution because it actually made me respect lav more than Mr.Girls endless manipulation attempts to wield Lav as his guinea pig for his claims that Destiny is abusive to orbiters
@xvingar6318
Жыл бұрын
Sneako has some absurd takes sometimes but you have to admit he’s a funny guy😭
@ihooptvchannel521
Жыл бұрын
I guess if you like crude denigrating humor, his talent was doing street interviews and he’s way past that, he doesn’t have enough intelligence to make any original content now
@michaelm8529
Жыл бұрын
Nah if I want a funny right wing nut, zherka is the one and only. Sneako just talks out his ass and then claims comedy for a free pass
@timmy5362
Жыл бұрын
zherka is the best i agress
@andrewcox5873
Жыл бұрын
Sneako the type of dude you want to tag along when your buddy is having a bachelor party. You know he’s going to get into some dumb shit, make everybody laugh, possible get himself arrested, and leave you with stories for ages
@Dielawn69
Жыл бұрын
Being whiny, loud, and obnoxious is funny? Im not saying Sneako is never funny. But he is more often annoying as fuck than funny.
@JWBauch
Жыл бұрын
Sneako "You should not hold responsibility for how everyone else holds your words." 1:31:50 . Does this mean we can never hold anyone accountable for anything they say because we cannot know what they truly meant without being them?
@bruceleeds7988
Жыл бұрын
What's this "MY community" shot Des is talking about? Sounds very cultish.
@jgravemans6076
Жыл бұрын
This was a wild ride of a stream. I feel like I witnessed history
@syraphian
Жыл бұрын
I literally have no clue who this Darius dude is or where he came from but his cameos are so hilarious and uncomfortable
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