Snoke could’ve been an awesome final enemy for episode 9. There’s literally snoke clones on exegol. It should’ve been Snoke cloning himself to remain forever powerful instead of pulling back palpatine.
@ReckSaber3664
4 ай бұрын
To think that his clones were this powerful and that his true body was even stronger, possibly stronger than palpatine, yea I wish we could have seen that. I completely agree with you on this. Such a shame. Snoke had so much potential to be a great villain
@masterx6883
3 ай бұрын
@@ReckSaber3664 the snoke leading the first Order could’ve been one of many clone pawns, while snoke’s powerful & ancient true body resided on Exegol. The true snoke would be the most powerful force used we’ve ever seen and has been watching from the shadows since before the Phantom Menace. He could’ve achieved what Darth Plageuis could not
@ReckSaber3664
3 ай бұрын
@@masterx6883 Broo please stop I can’t take it 😭😭😭. This sounds a trillion times better than palpatine returning
@danielk5780
3 ай бұрын
@@masterx6883 Exactly. Some proper lore couldve been revealed in IX. I also have some objections to his yellow-bath-robe appearance and would've preferred the old fashioned black-hooded version of a Sith-Lord. Not revealing his face or identity until IX could've also worked and would've made fans speculate even more. Ultimately, I would've been fine even if he had been revealed as Darth Maul or some other Sith Lord. He didn't even have to be "the most powerful of all time".
@JavertRA
3 ай бұрын
@danielk5780 Nah Darth Maul had run his course by this stage. He couldn't have run a whole First Order. A properly executed Snoke would have worked well.
@Jackal_El_Lobo34
4 ай бұрын
0:11 “My disappointment in your performance can’t be overstated” That disappointment goes both ways given that Snoke is made to look lame and incompetent in the film despite a good performance by Andy Serkins.
@Titanic19127
3 ай бұрын
Wasted character.
@darkwolf4434
3 ай бұрын
How is Snoke incompetent?
@Jackal_El_Lobo34
3 ай бұрын
@@darkwolf4434 The Last Jedi depicts Snoke as being strategically inefficient and weakening the First Order’s government for no real benefit. 1. Shows a failure of basic leadership 2. Force Chokes and publicly humiliates military personal like a child. 3. He puts the First Order’s roaming capital “The Supremacy” in the frontlines without any form of protection while chasing Resistance on the way to Crait and goads them into attacking it. This leads to the “Holdo Maneuver” destroying the capital and crippling the First Orders shipyards, supply, factory bases, and gov. 4. Shows stupidity and weakness when he taps into his apprentice mind acting oblivious to Kylo Ren’s blatant deception. This lead to Kylo force activating a lightsaber next to Snoke’s torso killing him instantly. Based on those actions from The Last Jedi, Snoke is incredibly inept in contrast to Palpatine and a boring villain at worst.
@darkwolf4434
3 ай бұрын
@@Jackal_El_Lobo34 1: What do you mean by that? Because I can't really put leadership into any evil Star Wars movie character. 2: Like Vader? 3: The Supremacy had shields. It was a capital ship like never before seen with an escort of a dozen Capital Ships that were more advanced than most ships in the galaxy. 4: Yes, Kylo outsmarted Snoke like Palpatine didn't expect Vader to kill him. Also, Snoke isn't Palpatine. He's a different character. Their personalities are also clearly different.
@nostalgiaking2024
4 ай бұрын
Snoke was the best character of the entire sequels since he literally drags the other characters like dogs on leashes. It’s just that he wasn’t written well enough but other than that, pretty good villain.
@baddoer
4 ай бұрын
He is basically mesh of Vader and Sidious characters. Which makes sense because as explained in TROS he was created by Sidious who incorporated there best of both himself and his apprentice.
@nostalgiaking2024
3 ай бұрын
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 I know, I somehow managed to put Smoke. I hate when that happens.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
3 ай бұрын
@@nostalgiaking2024 auto Correct hate that thing.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
3 ай бұрын
@@nostalgiaking2024 somebody in The comments called that out.
@chrisaguirre4771
3 ай бұрын
Great visuals, amazing dialogue and then he suddenly dies. What a damn waste
@jinzo637
5 ай бұрын
I hate that smoke Gave Rey more of a fight than her own grandfather haha. Palpatine just spams force lightning while snoke uses force push, pull, mind siphon (or probe whichever u prefer), and force lightning. Plus he is able to move freely. I'm sure if he wanted to he could use a Saber.
@nehemiahpouncey3607
3 ай бұрын
Snoke.🤣
@jinzo637
3 ай бұрын
@nehemiahpouncey3607 lmao I only now caught that hahaha 😆
@JR-kx8hy
3 ай бұрын
I mean what did you expect from StarWars writers? Even since before Disney, there were severe power scaling inconsistencies everywhere. I could go on and on.
@deadshot5007
3 ай бұрын
That's not a fight tho.
@jinzo637
3 ай бұрын
@deadshot5007 true but it was more than her Grandfather gave her. All he did was Just spammed sith lightning 🤷🏽♂️
@chrisdudedurian1305
3 ай бұрын
I gotta admit tho the scene where the lightsaber does a 360 turn and hits Rey on the back kf the head is funny af 😂
@kylerstorm9260
3 ай бұрын
nah, it’s Star Wars, it’s not supposed to be slapstick. but Rian wanted to make “the funny Star Wars” and predictably the concept failed terribly
@chrisdudedurian1305
3 ай бұрын
@@kylerstorm9260 ik it's an abomination
@MasterrEli
2 ай бұрын
@@kylerstorm9260 tbf there's quite a bit of goofy/slapstick ish humor in star wars. We got Jar Jar binks fart jokes in the prequels for crying out loud. I don't like the sequels but nitpicking Star Wars comedy is crazy
@DeathMessenger1988
Жыл бұрын
You know what? I hate everything Disney-Canon, but Snoke managed to endear me to him. He spends all his time laying down all annoying dumbasses Disney forced down our throats! Let's count: 1 - Slams Hux down on the floor, face first mind you, drags him around and criticizes him in front of his men. 2 - Calls Kylo Ren out on his pathetic bullshit and deflects a Force Lightning bolt off the ground and into his stupid face, making him fall on his ass. 3 - Cancels Rey's Mary Sue rights, drags her around the room like a dog on a leash/puppet and goddamn TK-Dope-Slaps her with her stolen lightsaber! 4 - Does nearly all of this without getting off his chair, bored out of his mind. 5 - He's basically an Imperial Sentinel Clone of Palpatine, so it actually makes sense within Star Wars Lore for him to exist. Why isn't there a scene of him dunking on Phasma too? We'd get the complete set!
@Rebel_Scum1138
6 ай бұрын
U hate everything disney canon? What about the books, comics, games, series?
@DeathMessenger1988
6 ай бұрын
@@Rebel_Scum1138 *_Did I stutter, Rebel Scum?!_*
@nostalgiaking2024
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the originals and prequels are better than these shithouse sequels.
@DeathMessenger1988
4 ай бұрын
@@Rebel_Scum1138 Did I stutter? I can count the VERY FEW original stuff Disney made I liked on one hand's fingers (Darth Momin, for instance). Nothing of which was worth the old EU being trashed and then shamelessly copied and bastardized.
@nottelling208
4 ай бұрын
@@DeathMessenger1988 Lol, you are so filled with hate that even Darth Vader and Darth Maul would blush. Imagine taking a fictional movie franchise this seriously 🤣
@guitarherolegend1
2 ай бұрын
Ep VI snoke was terrifying, EpVII snoke was a joke, cheers Rian
@MrYutbe57
3 ай бұрын
So IMO the biggest contradiction here is that Smoke claims here that he was the one who bridged their minds together and they were too foolish to resist the temptation.... But in the next movie it was because they were a dyad and Palps seemed surprised.
@alexthegamer8433
3 ай бұрын
I think, for as messy as it might sound, the bridging of their minds was why they could see eachother, but the dyad was what stayed after he died, like why they could touch and form a connection, hence why palpie seems surprised. Pretty cool IMO because Palps has this line in TROS that a dyad has been “unseen for generations” and it looks like there’s another dyad in The Acolyte.
@darkchris66
3 ай бұрын
I’ve always loved how he did that reflective force lightning at 0:20
@Nero-Caesar
3 ай бұрын
yeah to me it was a way to not give Kylo a full does
@Cats3life
3 ай бұрын
And he does it with such ease
@Austroid
4 ай бұрын
1:41-1:46 Would make a perfect loop! Snoke just conking Ma-Rey Sue over the head 😂
@Someguy0525
3 ай бұрын
Man Snoke could’ve turned into such a cool villain, such wasted potential like the rest of this trilogy.
@NickMartinproductions
3 ай бұрын
The sequels and prequels are similar in that the villains are defeated in each film unlike the original films, where Vader beats Obi-Wan and Luke, Han is taken by Boba, and Leia is captured by Jabba. (Contrasting this, Durge explodes, Ventress is abandoned by her master, Maul falls in a hole while sliced in half, Talzin is stabbed to death, Dooku loses his head, Grievous blows up, and Vader is defeated on Mustafar. Phasma is put in a trash compactor then falls out into space, Snoke is sliced in half and Sidious finally explodes into pieces depriving him of a body to use forever sending Sidious to the pits of Hell forever)!
@Julian.31.12
3 ай бұрын
Gut the diffrence is that the prequels have better writting. I give a fuck when the villian dies when the writting is good why he loses. And in the prequels the villians do also defeat the heros. Qui Gon gehts killed, Anakin loses his Hand, the clones kill the hole Jedi order etc.
@NickMartinproductions
3 ай бұрын
@@Julian.31.12 Not really. Obi-Wan beats Maul, a villain literally with almost no lines, Mace kills Jango like it’s nothing and the separatists are slaughtered like cattle
@Julian.31.12
3 ай бұрын
@@NickMartinproductions what are you talking? Jango is not the Mainvillian in attack of the clones and its not relevant if the droids are getting destroyed or not because that is the PLOT of the prequels. Regardless of wheter the republic or the sepratatist win the only winner is Sidius. And yes Maul gets killed by Obi after the death of Qui Gon and an epic fight. Were are the epic fights in the sequels?
@user-bv3qk6ds3f
3 ай бұрын
Andy Serkis's performance is incredible
@TranslatedAssumption
8 ай бұрын
So we are lead to believe that Rey > Kylo, THEN Snoke > Rey, BUT THEN Kylo > Snoke. They refuses to make anything make sense but when you have millions of people who will throw their money away to be brand loyal I guess you can do whatever you want knowing they'll still just keep throwing their money away.
@lulushishi
7 ай бұрын
Wait till you hear bout rock paper scissors. Gonna blow your mind 😂
@Muhammad0853
5 ай бұрын
Kylo>Rey
@rodrigomarcondes5857
4 ай бұрын
@@lulushishiikr? powerscaling people are so annoying
@ReySkywalker2
4 ай бұрын
It’s hilariously naive you think a story should be concerned with power levels or “X > Y” bullshit. That’s not how a story works.
@stormalexandrioz4308
4 ай бұрын
You aren't looking at the context Kylo was injured and in a bad mental state when he fought Rey Kylo cheap killed Snoke
@hahaimout1693
3 ай бұрын
Imagine how much cooler it would have been if they didn't show us that Ben was moving the saber and instead they makes us think it was Rey to then have the camera move to his hand for the reveal
@jjrj8568
3 ай бұрын
They made Snoke so powerful that they had to nerf him with the most ridiculous death in SW history; unless you believe in the theory that Snoke allowed himself to be killed (controlled by Sidious); a theory never even hinted at in TROS; messy trilogy.
@darkwolf4434
3 ай бұрын
Oh please. Seriously? Star Wars has always been filled with ridicoulous deaths. Remind me again how Palpatine died in Episide 6? How did Maul die in Episode 1?
@Someguy0525
3 ай бұрын
@@darkwolf4434Both of those deaths were well done, especially palpatines death in Ep 6
@AsianJidionkk
Ай бұрын
@@darkwolf4434Maul technically didn’t die in episode 1 he appeared again, palpatine died but at least someone important like anakin beat him lol wrong examples
@darkwolf4434
Ай бұрын
@@AsianJidionkk Someone important killed Snoke too and we saw how Snoke was outsmarted. Maul did die because despite his return in clone wars he never returned in the Prequels so in Episode 1 his downfall was supposed to represent his death.
@AsianJidionkk
Ай бұрын
@@darkwolf4434 Kylo ren is apart of the Skywalker bloodline yes but him beating snoke in episode 8 didn’t make sense for story purposes. If I was episode 9’s director I would’ve brought back Snoke as a clone because palpatine coming back even as a clone where Kylo ren and Rey beat him isn’t respectful towards the legacy of anakin. I don’t think JJ disrespected anakin on purpose, Rian Johnson definitely doesn’t respect Luke. But rian killing snoke forced JJ to bring palpatine back as the final boss
@secla_SC
3 ай бұрын
I’m one of the few who actually likes this movie.
@dabalma
3 ай бұрын
I like it too but I understand why most hate it. in my opinion, it's a terrible star wars movies but a good movie on his own
@leewhite1756
3 ай бұрын
My least favorite of the Sequels, but it has some really awesome scenes!
@Relampago7sss
3 ай бұрын
The secuels trilogy is good.
@douglaskane7749
3 ай бұрын
An amazing movie the haters DONT get cinema.
@darkwolf4434
3 ай бұрын
@@dabalmaI would day this is good Star Wars content. As an example Rian based Luke on arthurian legend just like Lucas had done. In the ending of Arthur's life it was his failure that destroyed him but he later rose to the status of a Legend. Like Luke who died in the most jedi way someone can die in. By protecting without killing.
@tillscheller
3 ай бұрын
The only thing disappointing during the Mandalorian series was the realisation that the "DNA research on Grogu"-plotline is basically there to set up Snoke. I wish they would be able to take episode 7-9 back and make new ones with a better story. The actors weren't bad, it was just so poorly and - unintentional - funny written. Let someone work on this movies with taste and original ideas.
@emzonik8851
3 ай бұрын
Say what you want but killing him mid-film was the best choice in the entire disney trilogy.
@dabalma
3 ай бұрын
exactly. it was 100% unpredictable. I loved it
@emzonik8851
3 ай бұрын
@@dabalma And it is in line with their original idea for Kylo Ren as this anti-Vader who starts conflicted but progresses into a devoded dark sider. This works best when he's to become the main villan in the end imo. Which Trevorow's script went by.
@JackPonissi
3 ай бұрын
This was the only movie in the trilogy that tried to do something interesting. JJ did his usual copying (sorry, I meant “homages”), mystery boxes with no mysteries in them and random events happening with no logic
@rhettmeyers474
3 ай бұрын
Have to disagree with this. He was really the only interesting new character to me after the first movie, so it was a huge disappointment. I guess it was part of that whole "subverting expectations" thing, but that just didn't work for me. I never even tuned into to watch the 3rd one, and based on the bits I've come across, I'm glad I didn't give it a bit of my money/time.
@dr.derekrobinson1920
3 ай бұрын
Low IQ take. Thanks for the laugh
@sentenialofliberty
3 ай бұрын
Snoke=Darth Plagueis
@BlackDiamond2718
3 ай бұрын
Was he trying to be threatening or humorous?
@JackPonissi
3 ай бұрын
We have an emperor home
@TheMail518
3 ай бұрын
why does everyone keep saying smoke? It's snoke lol Anyways, interesting how snoke thinks he knows Kylo's mind when in reality, kylo kills him by turning the lightsaber and killing snoke lol
@nehemiahpouncey3607
3 ай бұрын
Big smoke.😂
@nehemiahpouncey3607
3 ай бұрын
Auto correct must be something.😂
@EEVillainPub
3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Snoke the Codebreaker?
@AlbertoGarcia-wd7sc
Жыл бұрын
Rey never held a lightsaber but using a lightsaber doesn't require special knowledge, this is what people tends to not understand. Rey knew how to fight, she wasn't just a farmer with caretakers like luke. She was a scavenger all by herself since she was little and she knew how to use a staff. Besides that, Kylo's training was not complete and he is quite impulsive and lets his feelings overwhelm him (sound familiar?)
@cryoblaster8371
Жыл бұрын
They let their disdain for the trilogy blind the actual facts of the lore. Rey was trained enough to be able to use a lightsaber to a success against an enemy, now that doesn't mean she could duel the likes of Obi-wan or younger palpatine, but given the circumstances of Kylo being injured *and* not wanting to kill her was more than enough to allow her victory
@acommenterhere1000
Жыл бұрын
Using a lightsaber always requires special knowledge in the Star Wars universe. Simply knowing how to fight didn't let someone know how to use it. Even in the real world, knowing one weapon doesn't always transfer to other weapons. They just did a poor job at character development and writing with the last trilogy. Even Luke was poorly written. It was the actress and actors that kept the movie from being horrible.
@leme3503
4 ай бұрын
Are you intentionally daft? Sabine Wren was and is a mandalorian and she had to be trained (and failed to do so at first) to use the darksaber. For example, in the beginning it's heavy to use, but gets lighter when _insert details here._ Sequel-loving idiot doesn't even know/understand lore. I'd like to see a dude trained with a bō, pick up a sword and see how good they are untrained, let alone any supernatural properties. Or even someone trained with a pistol use a mini-gun.. You see how stupid you sound?
@Mrbluefire95
4 ай бұрын
Can you dumbfucks use your critical thinking please? If lightsabers don’t require anything special, then why isn’t everybody using them? Think hard now.
@iamchrispaezjr
4 ай бұрын
@@acommenterhere1000no it does not. Anybody with the force can instinctively know how to wield the lightsaber because the force naturally attunes to it. And like the op user said, Rey is trained in weapons handling. People like Djinn Dijarin couldn’t easily handle it because he’s not a force user, and neither could Sabine Wren. Both non-force sensitives, but in Sabine’s case, she eventually learned to wield the force after years of training. And Rey is not a Mary Sue. Let go of this already.
@burythelight4017
3 ай бұрын
I never cared much for Snoke in tfa but The Last Jedi put him front and center as the antagonist for every character. A man who lords himself above others, humiliates and overpowers them because he can. His aggorance was so unbelievably great that despite having all the power in the room, he failed to see that his taunting and hubris pushed Kylo to kill him and take the power for himself. He was never really Reys foe. He was Kylos and to a lesser extent, Hux's. His two prodigy's in a sense. Its such a shame Rise ruined all this build up to a final Kylo vs Hux showndown.
@chrisaguirre4771
3 ай бұрын
You can tell snoke was a poorly designed bad guy because he has no yellow eyes, yet has the other characteristics of dark side corruption? Worst star wars film ever
@kylerstorm9260
3 ай бұрын
“i am evil now so my eyes turn yellow” is some 7th grade creative writing nonsense, glad it isn’t the rule you think it is (see Dooku)
@chrisaguirre4771
3 ай бұрын
@@kylerstorm9260 Actually it is, it is dark side corruption as I said. Dooku does not have yellow eyes because he did not fully fall to the dark side, this is basic level knowledge every star wars fan knows
@KrogothIEA
3 ай бұрын
This is the problem with the entire sequel trilogy, all the villains are wasted, and only Palpatine is any sort of threat and it was BORING AND UNORIGINAL. Kylo, Phasma, Hux, even the knights of ren, all killed off or "turncoat" because they couldn't be bothered to actually make them interesting. Maul/Jango/Boba/Dooku/Grevious/Jabba/Palpatine/Lando (not a true baddie but self-interested) in the prequels and originals were far more interesting and at least used decently.
@joshuvuh8118
3 ай бұрын
It’s so dumb how they made him a clone should’ve just made kylo ren the main villain of 9 not Palpatine terrible writing
@philippriedel9888
3 ай бұрын
snoke was such a waste of potential. Could have been a great, mysterious villain, but first they made him an arrogant clown and second, they downgraded him into a marionette of a "somehow returned" emperor. One of the most disappointing aspects of this trilogy. and there were many of them...
@Remus88Romulus
3 ай бұрын
I can hear the clown music watching this video. Worst trilogy ever made.
@MrFox709
3 ай бұрын
My gosh with is the worst star wars vilain ever created
@henrymockingbird9645
Ай бұрын
Oh no snoke is not the worst villain in Star Wars that honor or dishonor goes to Kylo Ren
@Bruno-xi7qz
3 ай бұрын
Its curious to me how Snoke's actor, Andy Serkis, is the same as Kino Loy from Andor 🤔
@Captainbadger123
3 ай бұрын
And Caesar from Planet of the Apes
@DanielCastro-x1l
3 ай бұрын
And Alfr3d in TH3 Batman
@dingenmetminecraft2169
3 ай бұрын
1:09 wait, is that the Emperor’s theme? I never noticed that? Is this lazy score usage or clever foreshadowing?
@Wade_Fucking_Wilson
3 ай бұрын
Lazy
@martingenero6328
3 ай бұрын
Lazy Score usage since it's literally a homage of the episode 6 throne room scene. Even some lines and scenes are almost the same
@PokemonFan-qn1rg
4 ай бұрын
Snoke, general his and emperor (clone from IX) is never seen again
@ranorunadaira1452
3 ай бұрын
Tbh beside he being a clone puppet for Sidious, he is pretty strong. Sadly, his force sense doesn't see Ben intent to kill him. (also I wish that in ep 9 his clone is actually for HIM not just for plot device for Palpatine, or being PLAGUEIS clone would be more awesome)
@Cats3life
3 ай бұрын
True he flung Rey several meters with just moving his hand 2 cm
@reverse2066
3 ай бұрын
He wasn't a puppet. He was his own being with his own mind. He served Palpatine
@ranorunadaira1452
3 ай бұрын
@@reverse2066 puppet means like a puppet king not a literal wooden puppet
@reverse2066
3 ай бұрын
@@ranorunadaira1452 a lot of people think Snoke was body for Palatine's soul, which he wasn't
@ranorunadaira1452
3 ай бұрын
@@reverse2066 and being a puppet doesn't mean Snoke is Palpatine's new body? Have you ever heard the concept that a king is just for show, and the real ruler is someone behind? That the definition of "puppet" here. Snoke is powerful but lack the sense of danger, hence why Ben can kill him.
@RheubhennCabizares
Ай бұрын
0:02
@Omnomax
3 ай бұрын
Trash. Movie.
@klein2042
2 күн бұрын
Goldmember
@nitram9646
4 ай бұрын
all of these scenes are just horrible
@dabalma
3 ай бұрын
the character is horrible. his scenes are not
@nitram9646
3 ай бұрын
@@dabalma looks like parody, I can barely make sure this is a real movie
@dimazfantasy5252
3 ай бұрын
Its honestly really pitiful Snoke was a good villain and should've been the main villain of the sequel but yet somehow Disney uses Palpatine instead aka *somehow Palpatine returned*
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