Thanks man. You gave me a lot to think about. I just bought an '85 Z28 from a good friend for $2000. Garage kept, new paint and trans, but it looks like it needs head gaskets. He didn't know about that. Your videos helped me with a few issues, and relieved me that the car doesn't have many of the more common issues that you talked about. Thanks for giving me the heads up on what to watch out for in the future.
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@dagoat5064
3 жыл бұрын
2k??? Wat a steal
@GuitarAudiologist
3 жыл бұрын
@@dagoat5064 Yeah, it was a bro price for sure. The engine is NOT happy though. Leaning towards a rebuild and keeping it original. I've got it sitting under a car cover for now.
@spartanlink_047
4 жыл бұрын
Going to look at a project Camaro Z28 and this has been very informative. Thank you very much.
@TheyCallHimDietSeth
3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. I'm hoping to look at an 88 IROC Z in a few days and this is a really helpful guide. I definitely appreciate all of the tips!
@shadygingergarage
3 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@chipgo2214
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I watched every minute and it was very informative. Thanks for making it!
@locotrucker46
Жыл бұрын
Both of my third gen Camaros have trap doors and I'm happy with them
@woecp
Жыл бұрын
Shoulda came with a trapdoor from the factory
@chesterrush5570
2 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the best for a beginner 3rd gen seeker I'm coming 99% of the issues I see there's a couple that may have been overlooked like the bearing in the steering column from people pulling themselves in or pulling themselves out roof cracks by the b pillar and the pinch Wells by The rocker where people Jack it up in the wrong spot I'm thinking about doing a video on my third gen 84 berlinetta
@shadygingergarage
2 жыл бұрын
Of those I've only had the jack point issue.
@omegapain8459
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you
@shadygingergarage
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@caesarsgarage4708
4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I have a 1991 RS. Its only a v6 but im putting a 305 stroker in, eventually...
@ezc_spectre
6 ай бұрын
Heading out tomorrow to look at a 87 with an alleged 5.7. Watched all 3 parts and know I know a lot more of what to look for
@shadygingergarage
6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help. Happy Hunting!!
@jayvalentin018
3 жыл бұрын
you covered so much in this video. thank you for this!
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@jayvalentin018
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage can I contact you ? I’m checking out this 88 IROC Z this Saturday that a guy at my work offered to me and i would love to hear what your thoughts are on it and if it’s a good deal or not if you got some extra time. I’d be showing you thru pics/ vids
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
@@jayvalentin018 I'm on Instagram. for_the_love_of_cars85
@jayvalentin018
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage followed
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's just easier there. I'm also on Facebook but the Instagram is better at notifying me.
@sledwrench04
3 жыл бұрын
This video helped a ton! Thank you. Just bought an 85
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!!
@doolallyproductions7234
Жыл бұрын
Theres nothing wrong with the trap door method if its done right
@sotos2428
4 жыл бұрын
I want a 89 or 92 iroc but this days is hard to find one in good shape
@brycelawmaster3746
3 жыл бұрын
@@SehlraC 90 was last year for iroc
@rileyenia9388
3 жыл бұрын
I mean iroc would be nice but so hard to find v8 3gens for decent price these days at least by me so prolly gonna get v6 for cheap and build either a beast of a ls or 350
@richardresendez2325
2 жыл бұрын
@@brycelawmaster3746 o
@johna.4334
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardresendez2325 Huh? What's not to understand?
@richardresendez2325
2 жыл бұрын
@@johna.4334 the old Chevy rubber car mats I had for 18 years still in good shape
@drewwill2650
3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to pick one up in about 6 or 8 months and do an LS7 conversion with a new rear end, this video was helpful. I'm just looking for a clean body, I do not care very much about the condition of the engine or tranny, because they will be the first to go. This was some helpful information, thank you. At about which torque number should I start to be concerned with the integrity of the unibody and subframe? (assuming i do not have T-tops). Common sense is telling me I should be starting to add such things as bracing and door bars around 550 pound feet, as well as strut tower and trunk cross-linkage.
@trashbandit2449
3 жыл бұрын
At about 150 you should be concerned. Just add subframe connectors at least, these cars flex a lot.
@B0BA-F3TT
Жыл бұрын
Very thankful for this video my grandad passed away but left behind two 3rd gen Camaros an 87 and a 91 and I’m going to take ownership of the 87 with a 305
@shadygingergarage
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear he passed. The 87 is the better car in my opinion. Better looking gages among other details. The 91-92 cars had foam filled a-pillars and we're prone to rust.
@B0BA-F3TT
Жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage I agree the 87 looks better, it’s got the spoiler tail light and is black, I hate the steering wheel on the 91-92
@shadygingergarage
Жыл бұрын
@@B0BA-F3TT yeah, the later wheels aren't great. The earlier base coupe wheels were ugly too. I managed to find an 84 Z28 wheel for mine but I sold the car before I could install it.
@andrewcampbell3071
4 жыл бұрын
I did a trap door repair. But hey, I was 15
@striprockracing848
Жыл бұрын
That thin ass metal doesn’t provide any type of structure support what so ever. I’ve had one in my 2000 trans am for 20 years. No problems at all with it.
@cockasorrus7475
3 жыл бұрын
A lot of good info. thanks!
@hemipowerdtruck
4 жыл бұрын
The fact your tac works is rare to see lol
@adamlaschen511
4 жыл бұрын
How much is insurance I want one so bad.
@DeadSexyAdamCheney
3 жыл бұрын
In Colorado I pay 70 dollars for full coverage on my 84
@Channel0002
4 жыл бұрын
Great videos I watched all 3 parts! I got a 91 Camaro RS with the 5.0 TBI and when in Park it doesn’t idle correctly. In park the RPMs keep going up and down up and down, it’s looping and hunting for a steady idle but it just keeps going up and down. I’m not sure what this is and was wondering if you have any idea what it could be? One thing that I noticed is that when I go to shift it into any gear other than park like “D” Drive gear, the idle smoothes out and it stops looping. Another weird thing is if I put it back into park after it being in another gear for example “D” drive gear, the idle becomes smooth in Park gear. But once I shut the vehicle off and start it again the idle will be all loopy again until I put it in a gear other than park again. Any ideas on what it could be?
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I've never run into that problem. Despite major abuse my TBI 5.0 runs and idles pretty well. She takes longer to fire up when cold then I would like but she runs well overall. My best recommendation is to join "Malaise Motors" on Facebook. There's a bunch of guys on there that are pretty good with OBD-1 systems and they may have more experience with TBI system issues. It could be as simple as a bad ground.
@MichaelWittner
4 жыл бұрын
Id check for vaccum leaks
@matthewboudreaux2693
4 жыл бұрын
Check the throttle poison sensor. Could be getting worn out.
@korriehusky8404
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1986 berlinetta 305 V8 with t-top. I bought it as a project car. But I wish I knew more about cars that would let me know if the 305 is in good shape and if anything is unattached. People told me keep the engine with the carburetor. The dash is digital plus the switch for blinker is on dash and they might need to be re-soldered and put back in. But last year my stupid key got stuck in the lock to turn it on so I need to get that fixed. I'm surprised you forgot to mention the common rust that eats through the bottom of the outside of the door panels. Also the common areas where rust and animals eat through like in. Bottom of trunk and engine bay like under battery. It seems they don't make as many 3rd gen replacement parts like doors so they are kinda hard to come by.
@DeadSexyAdamCheney
3 жыл бұрын
I swapped out my 84 sport dash with an 84 berlinetta dash there are places that can make circuit boards to replace ones that go bad on your car so those parts that seemed irreplaceable a few years ago can be replaced now.
@Koexistence13
Ай бұрын
My oil pressure gauge is all over the place. Does rest at the lower 1/4 ,or less. Tap it with your finger and it moves a little. Sending unit?
@shadygingergarage
Ай бұрын
Could be a sending unit. The Camaro in this video held 40psi when cold and when under load. At idle, once it warmed up, it would drop to 20psi. It definitely had worn valve guides. Potentially had bad rings/worn cylinders.
@Koexistence13
Ай бұрын
@@shadygingergarage i was also thinking the gauge might be squirrely. Thanks for the vids btw
@shadygingergarage
Ай бұрын
@@Koexistence13 put a mechanical gauge on it to verify. And you are welcome. I have more videos like this planned, I just need to find the time.
@plasticfork2449
3 жыл бұрын
I know theyre pretty similar cars but is there anything else for the 87 trans am in specific I should look for
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
Mostly just issues with the pop up headlights. Like all "pop up" cars they can be problematic. Otherwise the two cars share many of the same issues and are mechanically identical other than the turbo trans-ams.
@plasticfork2449
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage thank you
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
@@plasticfork2449 you're welcome.
@toddjensen692
3 жыл бұрын
Headlight motors.
@Mikeeskates
3 жыл бұрын
Can i take you to get my 87 iroc 😫😫 I’m learning so much from these videos thank you 🙏🏽
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for the compliment.
@filipkraft
3 жыл бұрын
Hey. I have one question. Im thinking of buying 3rd gen Camaro from an old friend but its in terrible shape. Its been just standing in his garden for about 20 years without any maintenance and the vin code at the black part of the windshield is unreadable. Is there any other vin code that you know?
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure which year they started doing this but there may be vin's printed on stickers on both fenders and the hood. Another place to look is the info sticker on the drivers door jam. Those tend to fade with age tho. There should be a large sticker inside the center console with all of the option codes on it. If memory serves me well there should be a VIN there as well.
@filipkraft
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage Wow that was quick :D ill take a look at those spots. And where exactly is the VIN on the hood and fenders. Also I dont think there was any at the door jam or it may be taken off. Anyways thanks for reply!
@centermass4962
Жыл бұрын
You are not cutting enough out to hurt the structure of the car. I admit it is a janked up way to do it. But still. I own and love my 88 iroc. Btw my pumps on the motor
@jameslongnecker6909
4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get that steering wheel from, I've been looking at replacing the stock one in my 84 and you are right it is ugly and I do like the look of the one you have on yours, so I figured I could ask where you got yours
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
It's from Oriellys. The black ones are a bit harder to find in stock but that's where I got it. I'd actually like to put an 88-95 four spoke truck wheel in it, I just haven't found one yet. It's a black wheel with a red Chevy bowtie on the center.
@hostileaks4495
3 жыл бұрын
I bought a wheel and hub from mpi I recommend them it's a couple hundred but it is way cooler looking. Don't forget the hub and horn button if you want it.
@ml8991
4 жыл бұрын
would you recommend the 3rd gen as a good first car? ease to repair, reliability, etc.
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
No. Not unless you find one in rediculously good condition. Even then, only buy a V8 car. The newest third Gen (1992) is still a 28 year old car. The 1992 Chevrolet Caprice/Buick Roadmaster would be a far better first car. They share a lot of DNA but the Caprice/Roadmaster will take far more physical abuse and are easier to work on. The Camaro has a lot of tight clearances and things such as replacing a fuel pump are much more involved tasks on the Camaro. The Caprice is a great car to cut your teeth on and it still has the 305 and 350 as optional engines.
@ml8991
4 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage thank you for the advice, I really appreciate it :)
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
@@ml8991 you're welcome
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
@@ml8991 the 305 and 350 coupled with a 700r4 trans are pretty tough. You can only get a 5 speed with the 305. The weak points are the rear axles and the unibody construction. That's why I recommend the Caprice. It's a body on frame car with a better rear axle. Even the mighty Iroc suffered from too small of a ring gear in the rear. I've beat on my car pretty good and it's not really broke yet but mine isn't driven alot lately.
@jimmycline4778
3 жыл бұрын
FOR THE LOVE OF CARS Really! A caprice or a road master? 🤣🤣
@newbgamer0218
3 жыл бұрын
Thinking about putting a 318 v8 magnum in a little 86 camaro
@johna.4334
2 жыл бұрын
Nooooooo! Keep it GM please!
@richardresendez2325
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I got the same rubber Chevy mats probably 18 years
@Dee2Nce
4 жыл бұрын
So if i have to press the gas to start my Iroc is that a bad?
@sembatocus9958
3 жыл бұрын
Not bad if it has a carburetor, bad if you have fuel injection.
@FozzyZ28
2 жыл бұрын
If that's the case why were the next model's introduced with a trap door?? I'm an MOT inspector in the UK, which we have tougher laws than yourselves. Home made trap doors would certainly not fail a UK MOT as it's not structural in anyway. ????!
@shadygingergarage
2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen some of the rusty junk on our roads in the states? Structural integrity is not part of our inspection process here. Also, a factory trap door is very different from some hacked hole cut into a floor. There are ways of adding a trap door and keeping the panels integrity but most guys don't want to be bothered with doing a job right.
@FozzyZ28
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage brilliant, love your reply fella.... 😁👍
@_baller
4 жыл бұрын
Takes structure out the car? 🤣 And TTops?
@HighwayStrat84
4 жыл бұрын
im looking for the heat shield that goes between the muffler and gas tank for my 88, ive had no luck on finding one and ive tried dealerships, many online sites, salvage yards, still nothing. Do you or anyone who commented have any info on where to get one??
@DeadSexyAdamCheney
3 жыл бұрын
3rd gen ranch is a good place to check out
@MichaelWittner
4 жыл бұрын
Is it a miss or exahaust leak
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
Misfire. The 305 has had a VERY hard life. She burns oil too. I've had worse tho.
@johna.4334
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage So why not replace that PoS 305 with a 350?
@shadygingergarage
2 жыл бұрын
@@johna.4334 Because the 305 is one tough ass son of a bitch, lol. And it makes pretty good fuel economy. Beyond that, I'm on the fence about a simple 350 swap or doing a 5.3 swap. I don't have the time to do either one right now.
@johna.4334
2 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage Sure, take your time. Do it right the first time or don't do it at all. If I may suggest... Buy an auction gen four 5.7L Camaro/Firebird that's been wrecked/totaled and swap over all the goodies including the OBD2 computer setup. You're auto tech savvy enough to make this a reality. Note: If you're concerned with fuel economy then go for a wrecked vehicle with a Supercharged series III 3.8L engine.
@shadygingergarage
2 жыл бұрын
@@johna.4334 The supercharged 3.8 is a damn good engine but I'm a sucker for the the tone of a V8, lol.
@jeffreylieberman3369
4 жыл бұрын
Power windows? Now I know that you don't have a 1988 Camaro.
@jeffreylieberman3369
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you would have had better luck with a 2.8 liter V6, but of course like you said, you don't mess with those...ha ha
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylieberman3369 what are you even talking about?
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylieberman3369 I have beat the living hell out of this 305 car for three years and it's only failures have been one radiator and one window motor. I still hammer the car regularly during the summer.
@jeffreylieberman3369
4 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage cool, just never heard of an electric windows and electric hatch option for a base 1988 model Camaro. I think you might actually have an IROC on your hand's. Yes, just looked into it. The standard Coupe came with the V6, 2.8 liter like I have. The IROC came with the 305 and other options like what you have.
@shadygingergarage
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylieberman3369 my cars VIN shows it as a Sport Coupe. It came with the flat hood, throttle body 305, open diff, and bookshelf spoiler. The low option Irocs all got Tuned Port 305s and louvered hoods with fog lights. I had a high option 88 Iroc. It was special ordered with the Tuned Port 350, limited slip rear, four wheel disc brakes, and a hard top.
@robertcarlson6632
3 жыл бұрын
How dum,, pick on some other car,, you should see my IROC.
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
EVERY car has its problems and not everyone can just buy a $10,000 Iroc in great shape. These videos are mostly for us poor folk that are scraping the bottom of marketplace hoping a running, mostly straight car falls through the cracks.
@UsefulEntertainment
3 жыл бұрын
Lol who cares about your iroc, it could be the nicest one in the world and parked side by side next to my black on black 68 cutlass, it would just be another boring overlooked car in the parking lot. On another note, factory for factory it would dust a stock iroc. I also have a very very clean black on red 84 z28 so im qualified to knit pick between the both of them. People complement me on my camaro all the time and i go, hey take it easy, dont flatter me, ive got way cooler cars at home. So yeah, if your minty iroc is the coolest car you own, congratulations...
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
@@UsefulEntertainment exactly. I get compliments on my '88 base coupe all the time, from people who have seen it puff oil smoke leaving a stop light! I'm always thinking, "you realize this is a totally worn out turd, right?" People love the car anyway. I really need to find the time to swap in a better 350 but I drive the crimson turd daily. By the way, love your videos.
@UsefulEntertainment
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadygingergarage man in this day in age, post cash for clunkers, its just out of the ordinary to see them and when people see them it brings them back and makes them smile. not like your car is an eye sore ya know. im probably the biggest 3rd gen dictator nazi but when i see one on the road i get all gitty and excited. i used to have an 86sport coup in similar condition so i know how that goes. hey thats great man, im glad you like the show and i hope youve seen my black 84 ive been trying to de trailer park and give an original appearance lol i come back to your video series every so often just for reference but im getting pretty good at being able to tell what year a 3rd gen is just by glancing at them quick, i want to make a 3rd gen evolution video here soon by showing little differences on screen on how to identify these cars. it will be a deeply thought out video but i will brake the cars down into the 3 generations of the 3rd gens, 1, the starship age 82-84 2 the iroc age 85-89 3 the RS age 90-92 let me know what you think.
@shadygingergarage
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad you like my videos. Yes, I've seen your 84. It's no small task to remove the trailer park from these cars. I've got an 84 parts car that's had some of that treatment. I need to do a video on it showing how not to access your fuel pump and how sneaky the rust can be. I think your video idea is solid. I try to avoid the 90-92 RS cars. Between the air bag wheels, the ugly rounded dashes, and the poor build quality, they just lose the love. I'm one of maybe 3 third gens that are legit daily driven in my area. Mine is getting pretty worn out mechanically though. It is well overdue for a refresh.
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