I have also been lighting smokes with a credit card sized Fresnel lens. Just this year (2013) I was able to test it on the winter solstice (the day that the sun is the weakest), and it worked just as well then as any other time of year (it took me 4 years including this one to do this test due to clouds the first 3 years). I was able to light a smoke in just a couple of seconds. I also do not recommend that anyone take up smoking but tobacco does make an excellent tinder for solar ignition.
@callijah61
12 жыл бұрын
It always makes me feel good when I see Dave doing something the way I do it. Here I'm surrounded by pines and oaks so I use pine straw as my bird nest. Works like a charm! If any of you still question the magnifying lens, well, since I was a kid I've carried one(now i carry two) and it's ALWAYS my first choice. If you have sunshine, you will have fire.
@badvoodoodaddy1
13 жыл бұрын
Dave, another great video. Its good to see you teaching the ways of making fire while not using up your resources. It is lighter in weight and just as easy as the other ways to light a fire. It is skills that keep us alive not gear. Good job Brother.
@jdubu2716
9 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos!! it is amazing how much I have learned and realizing how much I didn't know having spent most of my life in the woods camping, hunting, fishing and trapping. Thanks so much for the information you share and teach.
@BigTVideos
13 жыл бұрын
I think its really great that you still make these very helpful videos even after your success with your TV show. Thanks so much. BigT
@snaponjohn100
13 жыл бұрын
Dave, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge. Welcome back. You were missed. God bless. John
@Paintbl99
13 жыл бұрын
Dual Survival is hands down my new favorite show on TV. I was able to catch up on some episodes this weekend. Discovery did a marathon! So good! Keep it up brother!
@QuantumPyrite_88.9
10 ай бұрын
Very nicely demonstrated . For those who wear glasses - A wallet size Fresnel lense will help you to read, should you damage or lose your glasses + It works very well for solar fire starting. Thanks, Dave, for a great video.
@congamike1
12 жыл бұрын
Dave, Thanks to you, I have been using solar ignition to lite my smokes when practical. I'd never recommend that anyone take up smoking, however, this is a great method of creating an ember. When hiking, I am always careful to keep my powder and my tobacco dry, so my tobacco should be a fairly reliable tinder. Really appreciate everything you have taught me! Blessings to you.
@MrBillTroop73
13 жыл бұрын
Good job Dave! Always a pleasure to see you again. Good support of your fellow instructor too.
@benmatt01
12 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. I live in oz so the lighting materials and methods are a little different but the same principal. But also the best part is it doesn't tire me out to light a fire in this away. Cheers mate! Keep it up.
@mtower235
13 жыл бұрын
Man you 2 got me motivated! I couldn't use the crushed leaves, we had about 25mph winds so I used the dried leaves from a yucca plant and got her going in 19 minutes! I also found the magnifyer in the "6 in 1 survival whistle" I have carried is a piece of junk. I mainly have it for the whistle but to know the other stuff doesn't work well is good to know now before the bad day comes and i need it.
@MrLoiti100
13 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy and grateful that you take the time to make videos on youtube though you probably are busy with things to do with dual survival. Great video as always!
@jplamb77
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave,,,,Setting the record straight,, and making it simple. You definitely have the Gift for/of Teaching,,,,!!!!! Joshua
@asheradensein
13 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, I'm always excited to see a video by you, brother. I remember when you had like 200 subscribers and I could tell you were bound for national recognition, like you are now. Thanks for all the vids, man!
@chesterbesterfeild
13 жыл бұрын
Wow you made that look easy as hell. In only seconds after focusing the beam, the smoke started. I dont even remember it being that fast when I was a kid lol. Its all because of that powder/dust you used for the ember. It sustains itself like a cigarette would. It was also very good that you mentioned at 5:50 that you had all the time in the world to mess with the ember after it was created. I know I was thinking; "shouldn't he start blowing soon??"
@SilentWolf1966
13 жыл бұрын
I have always used solar ignition as one of my options for fire.Save the resorces.I use the same method you do Dave.Great Vids.
@fumasterchu12
13 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual, this vid had better quality which made it easier to see what was going on. You guys rock, keep it up. Go Bucks!
@10191927
12 жыл бұрын
Very efficient and well thought out step by step presentation that really shows great educational value and practical use in an actual survival situation. I really like these kinds of videos that demonstrate simple and practical skills that people can really use. These videos are an invaluable source of information and a great educational tool.
@convert2010
13 жыл бұрын
That's telling them Dave. I keep a glass in my kt all the time for the sunny days. it does take some work and one question was about the "Survival situation" is it better to use a feroll rod. I think the whole point of this video was the fact that the sun is a renewable resource. sure a bic lighter would work better, but I use my lighter on the cloudy days or at night. if it is sunny, i use the glass. its cheaper and saves resources. Great video, Dave and I love the Dual Survivor ... Keep it up
@dystopiansage
13 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave! I always look forward to your videos.
@inbredagogo
13 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for awhile, and just read your bio. You are awesome sir. I'd sure like to learn about some more of this stuff.
@crazywaffleking
13 жыл бұрын
@jtdbs - I know you asked Dave the question, but the magnifying glass doesn't replace other methods to start fire. You can't use solar at night, or when it is raining. You wouldn't want a magnifying glass as your own method. However if you have one and need to start a fire, and it is sunny outside, using the magnifying glass is great because it doesn't use up a match, or flint or whatever.
@WayneRogersOutdoors
12 жыл бұрын
@Joxman2k It is not an issue at all. At that point the coal in your bird's nest is about the same as a coal from your bow drill set for making friction fire except for that it is a little more stable and holds together better. Just blow the ember up into a flame the same way as if you used a friction fire bow and spindle to make the coal. I always carry a magnifier and a couple of coals from previous fire in a small tin in my kit because if I've got sun, this method works great!
@AzBirdDog
13 жыл бұрын
Dave, as I watched you creating the ember material, I thought that it's so much like that material of a cigarrette. Then I thought, but haven't actually tried, what if you hollow out a stick a little bit, and compact the fine material of the leaves into that hollow cavity, and try and start the ember inside of that stick, like a cigarrette? Awesome videos and channel! I'll be trying this method out this weekend.
@Waldhandwerk
13 жыл бұрын
Perfect job and great details, many thanks. Have a good weekend, Sepp
@jmg1957
13 жыл бұрын
great to have you back....peace from mississippi
@EatCarbs
13 жыл бұрын
Ya know Dave.. sadly there always has to be someone who's got to roll in talking like they know everything about everything. I often check these people's channels.. they make no vids of their own or contribute anything. I've just started to ignore many of those individuals. Thanks for the great tip... I need to get out and practice! Thanks for all your hard work.
@WayneRogersOutdoors
12 жыл бұрын
If I have had previous fire I always sort through the pot ash and select a nice piece of char to throw in my fire kit to use for getting a coal. It works well for ferro rods or solar ignition. I just nest the piece of char coal in the birds nest and use the magnifying source to get that black coal hot in a very short order. This gives me easy fire every time unless things are just too damp.
@colddrake80
13 жыл бұрын
Neat, now all I have to do is wait for one of the three sunny days in the Northeast. LOL I've tried and failed at this before but my mistake was just not building a good enough nest so I'll have have try that again. Thanks for the video.
@coolastro
13 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the Educational Video Dave and Mitch I have a Flint Rod that I just started learning how to use also have a Magnifying glass from the buck store. I started my first grass fire with a Flint Rod yesterday hard as hell to do for a beginner but for what I see lighting a fire with a Magnifying glass is less calorie's to burn which is I would rather use in Survival Situation although if it is raining I might opt for the Flint rod and Cotton Ball with some Petroleum jelly
@greece400
13 жыл бұрын
How encouraging you are; and now I may try it myself!
@unclearless
13 жыл бұрын
Dave, in reference to you saying you should always have a BIC lighter...I was curious to know if you have made a video about using a lighter that is out of fuel? A lighter out of fuel is not a loss. The fuel usually burns out much more quickly than the flint. Sticking "Lint balls" off cotton socks, etc, and putting them in the hole at the top of the lighter can create an easy fire. So, if you have not already done so, I would love to see a video from you on that idea/premise. Thanks ~Kevin~
@timtaco1997
11 жыл бұрын
instead of making the "dust" with dried leaves, could you make it from a piece of wood with a file from your multitool? my guess is probably so, wondering if anyone else was thinking of anything similar.
@Gamersnewscom
13 жыл бұрын
I have an 8.5 by 11.5 Fresnel lens in my backpack. It cost $2.00 at an office supply. It really kicks the solar up a notch.
@Thunderhook715
13 жыл бұрын
plus after you get the fire started on a sunny day it can be maintained and coals and embers can be kept burning during rainy cloudy days using rocky overhangs just gotta keep adding kindling and bark as needed.
@BamaBoat
13 жыл бұрын
Nice video dave. Always Learn something from you. Never tried to grind a dust ball like that for solar. Will try next time in the woods. Cb75
@Joxman2k
12 жыл бұрын
Something that I have found useful when going from ember stage to flame stage is to start off gently. You must become aware of the focus of your breath direction, and strongest point. After a couple of gentle focused breaths you start off your breath gently then increase it with focus in mind. It has never taken me more than 2 focused breaths. I know people who just blow constantly and are successful, but when your work with slightly moist material the focus technique is very effective. :) :P
@OrganGrindersSwing
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters Dave, I have a question for ya brother. I bought a Duluth Pathfinder Pack a couple weeks ago and I'm waiting for it to be built. Do you use that pack at all and what are your thoughts on it. Thanks for any insight and I really appreciate all the videos. They are hands down, the most informative out there.
@raztuss
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.I'd like to share some of mine.One thing that my brother and I do is we use sisal rope1/4", cut it about four feet long, and split it, make a birds nest, hit it with our flint and steel or our ferrous rod and use the extra length of rope to swing the nest around to let natures breath to start things off.(We are to old to be huffing an puffin,)lol, and so far it works for us all the time.Try and let me know how it went.Later
@Joxman2k
12 жыл бұрын
@straboh I have not done that before :) Does oxygenating with your breath become an issue at all? Is the technique the same as igniting the ember? Or are you just speaking about creating an ember? :) :P
@jtdbs
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters Thanks for the answer.BTW the new season of Dual Survival is great.Lovin' it.Keep up the good work!
@GarnettM
13 жыл бұрын
I used to tell the kids to grind dry horsehoof fungus off the side of trees use the bottom if you can`t find dry enough kindling to make a smudge kindle you can move it anywhere and keep lit by blowing on it
@TheFloridaboy900
13 жыл бұрын
dave jst got to tell u i'm so going to try it out and is this good for a alnighter on a turkey hunt in the woods.
@garrettjohnston5153
5 жыл бұрын
U did good I use char cloth it's better than crushed leaves , which starts up Everytime but nice video thanks I'm in pa state
@PaladinPrepper
13 жыл бұрын
Great follow-up to Solar Ignition Part 1. Your work is appreciated. I promote your channel by adding selected videos to the 'MacGyver Concepts' playlist on my channel. As a side note, my ten year old and I went for a walk around our small town this afternoon and spotted seven different edible plants growing wild all over town.
@WayneRogersOutdoors
12 жыл бұрын
Take the coal from your ( or any other ) previous fire, tuck it into your bird's nest and use a magnifying glass or any other source to focus sunlight to target that coal. It takes very little time, seconds, for that little black coal to become an ember and since it is a solid coal unlike what comes from your bow-drill set it stays together much easier. Blow into flame the same as you would any other time. I carry jute twine and cattail stalks for tinder.
@tylerpienta
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters should these be your choice of 3 different ways? feroll rod, lighter, bow drill, hand drill, solar ignition
@JsRifleMan22
12 жыл бұрын
yes i think your right but how would it work with bifocals but i guest you would want the thicker glass for better magnification
@Eowyn77
13 жыл бұрын
I've tried this with my SwissChamp but it didn't work. It was already late in the afternoon. Does solar ignition rather depend on the size or on the magnifying factor?
@chesterbesterfeild
13 жыл бұрын
@hpd707 It actually seems like this method is much more reliable and easier because the rod sparks wont always go where you want them to and sometimes wont light. Also as Dave said you are using up a bit of the rod each time.This method can be completed with very little resources at all. I've even seen Les Stroud on his show use the bottom of a soda can polished up a bit with chocolate to focus the beam.
@GreenEggsAndHamster
13 жыл бұрын
Awesome additional info! I look forward to trying this!
@jtdbs
13 жыл бұрын
Dave I want to ask you something.That solar ignitor is cool,but it takes a lot of time.If you are in a survival situation it will better to have a feroll rod would'n it?Yeah you scrape of it and you are wasting the matirial,but its going to cost you not much time.Solar ignitor is cool and efective,but when you don't have sun you have to move to the feroll rod,right?
@BillHinson
13 жыл бұрын
@jtdbs Or you might use a bow or hand drill If your not sure how they work Dave has some great videos on them
@71madbrad
13 жыл бұрын
Ofen times you will find " Olde Forge" knive at thrift stores, goodwill, antique stores and such for little or nothing. They are also high carbon steel.
@69Grunden
13 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave thanks for sharing..
@gaelicwinds
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters mora and old hickory are both worth every cent i have a very old set of old hickory butchering blades and they are damn good for holding a edge and so are the moras they are very good blades for the cost and they are both 0-1 high carbon bro you not only know survival but also good blades
@mogges1
13 жыл бұрын
I have tried the magnifying glass and it works for me every time SO LONG AS THE IS SUN. I have Also use the chrome flashlight part that Dave has shown, and it works every time.I even light my cigars are ciggs with that chrome flashlight peace.SO LONG AS THER IS SUN LIGHT.
@MrJoeyBoombotz
13 жыл бұрын
youtube video, Fresnel fire making , shows a 10x7in, 1/2 ounce. 2x magnifying fresnel lens igniting a fire WITHOUT having to make an ember, directly on the wood. The principle is, the SIZE of the magnifier or parabolic mirror that dictates power, not the magnification factor. The larger magnifier gathers more light. Size does matter!! This is extremely valuable in winter. Mine fits easily in my day pack. I've been doing this since 2007 when I saw the video.
@CharlesLe-thephotographer
13 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you Dave.
@12fitzgerald
13 жыл бұрын
luv your vids.infact all the pathfinder vids.what happend to critter aint seen him in a wile.keep it up my man!!!!tubein in n.e.ohio
@tylerpienta
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters about reliable knives do you think a crkt mak 1 knife is good because i bought one for 60$ and a knife and gun show and i was wondering if you think it was a good choice?
@tylerpienta
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters so are the 3 different ways be feroll rod,lighter,and either bow drill hand drill solar etc.?
@spencer150r
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, very informative!
@hobbexp
13 жыл бұрын
i use it all the time when i was littel, it works great,
@tybo09
13 жыл бұрын
I understand not wanting to use resources, but how many strikes do you get on a ferro rod? I didn't think it was really something to worry about using up. Of course, with solar ignition, there's no real work involved, other than focusing your lens and a cheap magnifying glass weighs practically nothing, so there's certainly no harm in having one. Glad we're not the only ones getting rain... Hope you're not getting as much as we've had.
@ShoreScout
13 жыл бұрын
@tybo09 I used to think that too until I wore one down to literally nothing in less than an hour doing ( not finishing) Dave's First Pathfinder Challenge - wet tinder - wet firesteel and it was raining to boot! I teach my scouts that mastering "multiple methods" is the best way to go in fire starting.
@jtdbs
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters Oh and another thing.Whats the color of your survival braclet?Is it woodsman green?
@mooseyou2
13 жыл бұрын
i'm not a pyro but fire can be a beautiful thing using solar ignition is another tool to add to anyones box or bag of tricks thanks for the video -boyce
@michaelbranham5854
11 жыл бұрын
Nice video learned something new.... Leaf dust...
@bonesword98
13 жыл бұрын
Dave, I know this may not be a meaningful question, ...you didn't say anything about lens power in the vid, (in the first vid. he did mention it in passing), ..is there a worst-better-best 'lens power' a person should be looking at? Thank you, Rick
@tookieblueeyesoutdoors
13 жыл бұрын
@AaronfromWM Its already on every Friday night at 9 man! You missed 2 awesome episodes already if you have not seen it on... you need to check out slash and burn! Dave totally cuts his arm open and lights it on fire with black powder!
@teunversluis18
13 жыл бұрын
crispy critters like this bad-boy here:P great video Dave
@Magician12345
12 жыл бұрын
oh so that IS him? ive been watching that show and this channel for a while but i never really noticed.
@natureman97
13 жыл бұрын
Are there any other things that you could start an ember with besides leaf dust?
@hpd707
13 жыл бұрын
@jtdbs Really, a ferro rod is not much faster than using a lens IF you follow Dave's instructions. I did this today with weeds and grass from my back yard. It worked great and was much easier than using a bow drill, and on par with a rod.
@MrDeermaster
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters bro i freakin love dual survival im always out in the woods doing yalls stuff haha
@Chivalryaintdead
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson.
@JsRifleMan22
12 жыл бұрын
does that work i tried it with reading glasses and it didnt get that hot very qick and it was a very hot day
@Joxman2k
12 жыл бұрын
@straboh Thanks for the tip strabow:) I'm going to try it out soon. I love experimenting with new techniques, and materials. :) :P
@drac060
13 жыл бұрын
I watched his video and went to my driveway and had a fire going in less than five minutes. It's old school boys and girls. If your going to carry 3 ways to start fire in your pack... why not? It's cheap, easy and dries out tinder. cya crockett
@survival919
13 жыл бұрын
when is the pathfinder staff going to be avaliable ?
@dustinatoms
12 жыл бұрын
haha i remember building fires that way back in grade 6,. we couldnt get matchs or lighters so we used magnifying glass all the time.
@boom123bam
12 жыл бұрын
I have seen all of your videos of suvival duo with cody lundin!! this is so fucking coool!!I have watched them in german and even by us in germany i learned most of my survival skillls from you!you`re reallly freakin`cool
@p8chill
13 жыл бұрын
what about the cold steel bushman?
@BushMania4
12 жыл бұрын
Do yall consider this primitive??? Thx!
@SebastyanPereiro
13 жыл бұрын
и трава посреди леса откуда-то сухая, и листья СУХИЕ, и линза под рукой... что это благоприятное стечение обстоятельств или тепличное выживание?
@melbrenton1
13 жыл бұрын
You need to go t west virginia and do a tape...
@MrHritz
13 жыл бұрын
@mrstarkiller88888 I actually own a winchester bowie. It cost me $45 at the time. It's a good quality knife, but there's definitely knives that are more worth getting.
@HikerJohn316
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@molekulaTV
13 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@pa1019123
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Thanks
@MartyChipman
13 жыл бұрын
good follow up Dave 5*
@tylerdurden1971
13 жыл бұрын
@wildernessoutfitters Dave I'm Dieing To Know What Is That Around Your Neck? Is There Someting in It? If So,What Is It? Thanks Brother
@__Wanderer
13 жыл бұрын
Great Video!!!! =D
@EatCarbs
13 жыл бұрын
@AaronfromWM There have been two episodes already.. a new one on 5/6/2011 on Discovery bro.. where ya been hiding?
@prvthudson
13 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Thunderhook715
13 жыл бұрын
@duxdawg IT WORKS !!!! maybe you did not do it right
@MarkBrotherton1
13 жыл бұрын
Dave be careful when you got the leaves and put them on your face you touched poison ivy you were touching it to your side.
@CptSmokeAlot
12 жыл бұрын
Dave forget dual survival we need "The Pathfinder" tv Show
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