You should make a video of removing the old processor and installing the new one into your MacBook pro
@stephensarinana-lampson9305
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thorough video on this process. At first, it is a bit daunting and a little scary - the idea you're going to in essence, rip the top off a CPU. But it is certainly a doable thing. Not having a vise, I bought a simple table top vise from Home Depot for $20 which worked like a charm. Before placing the first CPU into the vise, I actually made an effort to undercut the rubberized seal and I removed the CPU from the vise a few times to "check progress" during the process. Early on you can clearly see the IHS moving in one direction (which certainly was a confidence booster!). Upon seeing the IHS move as desired, I carefully cut a little deeper into the seal ever so slightly. My final turns to release the IHS were not as dramatic as expected (I held onto the CPU with two fingers in the final stages and could feel the "pop".) Once the first was completed, doing the second was much easier. In retrospect, I wish I had gone down this path sooner-than-later as torching a CPU was not something I was comfortable. Besides, I figure that worst that could happen was I'd be out a processor at a cost equivalent to a bad date! LOL Good luck to all.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
So I succeeded in getting the lids off! Like 30 seconds the first time 45 - 50 seconds the second time only stopping after 30 seconds to change how close I held the torch and to move it a little tighter in the area in the center of the lid where the die is more oriented. The lid popped off each time rather gently. Now I will say this make absolutely positively certain that you have indeed cut through the mastic seal. That was how I destroyed two sets of processors earlier!!!! Expensive lesson! I was able to slip a piece of dental floss into where I cut and got it worked in under the lid taking care not to break it. Took me an extra 10 minutes but hey as near as I can tell the processors aren't heat damaged they came off cleanly exactly as DIY Guy had done in the video. Now I will clean them up and get them installed and see if I really did the job right! Hey man, thanks you have been an invaluable help!
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your determination and effort was successful.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
im sanding and its not coming clear and shiny using 800 grit paper i don't want to screw this up how far should i go?
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
800 grit is so fine that it takes a little time to get down to the die surface. You will know once you get there since there will be a slight hazing where the solder is still present.
@matthewgray713
7 жыл бұрын
Just an update, I'm using Liquid Ultra thermal paste for my de-lidded CPU's and in the pack it includes a small scourer pad which they advise you do use on the CPU die (or IHS lid) and heat sink base to lightly buff it up. Now I've found these perfect for removing the excess solder post plastic scraper. Much safer and quicker than trying to use wet & dry paper. Try it and see for yourself.
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I"ll definitely try this myself the next time.
@WarriorsPhoto
6 жыл бұрын
Great video. If there had been a follow up or add in of the performance gains. That would have great as well. Overall great video and I liked your editing with the transitions. Made it way easier to follow at critical points. Thank you.
@diyguy1808
5 жыл бұрын
This mod is basically more for Mac Pro 2009 owners who want to upgrade their machines to 5,1 and stay current. However, there are modest gains to delidding IHS in general that more extreme users want to achieve.
@angelmix2313
Жыл бұрын
@@diyguy1808Hello, what would happen in the case that I wanted to solder the IHS with the micro of a 3770 since I cannot find liquid metal anywhere and the thermal pastes have not given me results
@abirdynumnum9612
4 жыл бұрын
Dear DIY Guy: I bought two 3.3 GHz CPU's and followed your instructions. I was glad to learn how to "de-lid a CPU chip. However, I perhaps accidentally sanded onto one of the 11 little metal pins (look like bricks--do not know the official terminology) just located outside of the CPU center surface. Currently, I have the CPU's being checked by a computer shop to see if one or both are damaged. I will let you know if the CPU's are damaged (one or both). I will then purchase new ones and install them "lidded". When I removed the heat sinks that sit on top of my Quad Core Intel Xeon CPU's (2.4 GHz), I found the original CPU's were lidded--not as some people have claimed, meaning that Apple originally installed "de-lidded." Sincerely, AM
@scrappydogfinance8434
5 жыл бұрын
That solder is incredibly soft, I am thinking it has alot of pure silver or maybe lead inside
@moseskravitz
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! Great and informative video. I really appreciate when someone takes the time to present an intelligent and thorough video
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comments. I don't try to overly polish my videos, nor try to monetize the content I create, but give to the community of users, useful information (hopefully) that may benefit others.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
So almost exactly a year to my start date,. hey had some major setbacks, got the beast up and running Mac Pro 2009 4,1 to 5,1 firmware hack, 2x Intel Xenon X5680 processors running at 3.33Ghz, 128GB ECC 1333Mhz RAM, Sonnet USB 3.0 PCI Pro Card, Nvidia GTX 120 (my next upgrade), 6TB of HDD (will change to SSD's very soon!. Learned some very very expensive lessons. If you can pull it off its great. De-lidding is the move make sure you read all of the tutorials you can. This one is excellent! Make sure you have indeed cut through the glue/adhesive holding the lid on. Failure will cause you to overheat the processor and destroy it. Like I did. TWICE!
@AlexOvechkinSucks
6 жыл бұрын
Damn. Thanks for the head's up!
@byte-nibbler
5 жыл бұрын
After I melted an Intel Xeon X5690 doing this video, I immediately went to the safer (and foolproof) vise method of de-lidding. Using heat is just STUPID when you can just cut away the RTV/silicone sealant and use the vise to gently slide the lid straight off the die. With the vise method, I am 4-for-4, 100% success rate. No risk.
@HiIAmPaul
5 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video showing that process?
@BlackKnight6667
8 жыл бұрын
I'm told that one of the best processes to do the final polishing on the die is to use a spray adhesive on a piece of glass and adhering the sandpaper (600+ grit, Higher the better). and then to move the processor over that. It guarantees a perfectly flat polish to the face of the die...
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great idea. Thanks for sharing.
@cosmblus
4 жыл бұрын
This might sound stupid but is there anyway I could send my MacBook Pro 2015 to a professional to desolder and install a new cpu?
@vicfirth1
3 жыл бұрын
You should only do this for a 2009 Mac Pro. Apple modified the heatsink in 2010 and as such 2010-2012 Mac Pro's did not come with lidless processors. You should not remove the integrated heat spreader if you are installing new processors in a 2010-2012 Mac Pro.
@southerner66
Жыл бұрын
And only dual-processor models. The single CPU models are not lidless.
@wolfsburg7903
6 жыл бұрын
Get a hot air station off Amazon for cheap, makes this whole process much more reliable.
@Mooncalf2012
8 жыл бұрын
That "solder" looks very similar to the gallium alloy pads that are available for Xbox and PS3, and also PC laptop kits with mobile unlidded CPU. Couldn't you remove the excess, or add a new pad on top, instead of using thermal paste? Those pads are designed to melt at high temperature and thus fill in any gaps between the metal and the die. With a re-flow station or heat gun, couldn't you smooth it out and apply an additional liquid metal pad. I don't think introducing grit to the silicon die is a good idea. It seems the only risk would be removing the heat sinks at a later date, or have excess 'liquid' metal dropping into the area around the die with exposed surface mount components. I had great results using the CoolLaboratory pads in a PS3 once.
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
I agree that there are better alternatives to Arctic Silver thermal paste. I haven't used gallium alloy pads myself so I can't attest to their efficiency, instead using a well trusted Tuniq TX-4. However, sanding the solder off the die to the top of the substrate, also called lapping, is the preferred method. Primarily because you need to have a completely flat surface to make a good clean connection with the top heat sync. In the 2009-2012 Mac Pro models using dual processors, the heat sync that sits on top of the processor has four screws that secure it down. If the build up of remaining solder, after removing the IHS is too thick, you could still potentially damage the logic board if you tighten it too much, or don't evenly screw down the four screws - which is easy to do since the screws are recessed several inches into the heat sync and you can't view them when turning the allen wrench. Sanding the solder, using a fine grit wet sandpaper, creates a slurry similar to how you finish surface car paint. I have found that any fine sanding marks can be polished with even finer sandpaper allowing a greater percentage of surface contact between the die and the heat sync. Once done it should be almost like a mirror surface. We are talking microns of thickness, with the solder being much softer than the top of the die, so it's unlikely that you would take much of the die substrate off using very fine sand paper. To get back to your point about using gallium thermal pads, I would be interested to see if others have used them in a Mac Pro, dual processor, configuration from a de-lidded upgraded cpu configuration. They don't look any more difficult to apply than messy thermal paste. Thanks for contributing.
@soufianDEMOS
3 жыл бұрын
I bought 2x Intel Xeon X5690 3,46 GHz Six Core CPU Matched Pair Mac Pro 5,1 and didnt have to do all of this. Am I missing something ?
@michaelch5060
7 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well done! Thanks for sharing
@PatrickPecoraro
7 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial this worked perfectly for me.
@anonymoususer6683
6 жыл бұрын
2010 12 core Mac Pros didn’t used a delidded processor.
@diyguy1808
5 жыл бұрын
You'r correct. Mainly this mod is for the 2009 Mac Pro model to keep them current and upgradable to 5,1. However, for those extreme modder's removing the IHS on 2010-2012 models might show slight performance gains in heat dissipation and reduced energy use.
@agxster
8 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of delidding a couple CPUs for my 2009 4,1 and happened to come across your video. I've ordered the items you use (helping hand, mini torch etc) and a couple of cheaper processors (Intel Xeon e5620) to practice with. Once I get the hang of it I'll order a some x5677 or x5670's for final use in my 4,1. Thank you for such an informative video, it's given me a good idea on what to do.
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. It's really not that difficult to do. Just take your time and prepare a place where you won't burn or melt anything. Use the painters tape, after you remove the IHS lids, and protect the PCB real well. If you need to change the tape, due to it getting worn while you're sanding the remaining solder off, do so. You will also probably want to flash your firmware to 5,1 to get your Mac Pro to 2010 specs after you do the install. Check Netkas.org and Macrumors.com as there is a lot of information on how to do this. With the firmware upgrade, combined with the cpu upgrade to at least the X5670 - 2.93 GHz processor, you should be able to use the faster 1333MHz memory as well, but it will require a PRAM reset afterwards. Assuming Apple doesn't cut off these machines with their OS upgrades, these upgrades should give you at least 5 more years of solid continuous use on par with the faster 2013 models.
@louisalfred3
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up for me I appreciate it.
@MaJaCa007
8 жыл бұрын
Does this video show everything you did prior to installation into the Mac Pro? Did you also the rubber seal on the perimeter of the CPU? Lastly, in a similar video, someone mentioned putting clear nail polish on the capacitors once the de-lid was completed... do you know why would this be?
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
The video clearly shows the process for cutting through the rubber mastic glue on the perimeter of the IHS. Secondly, there have been some theories that coating the surface capacitors with a non-conductive coating like nail polish, Permatex, or electrical tape helps protect them when using a water block cooling system which is not required for a Mac Pro. For this exercise, we are not attempting to over-clock the processor, only trying to get it to fit into it's sockets on the Mac Pro without damaging the circuit board.
@MaJaCa007
8 жыл бұрын
+DIY Guy thank you! Great video.
@charleswp71
6 жыл бұрын
the reason they recommend not putting the blades in is you can split the die if you put them in to far, you want very little tension. to much and the die will split. i did my w3680 because the solder had to many air bubbles in it and i had weird core temps, since i was reusing the IHS i used LM and temps were way down afterwards.
@locovidepro
4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video, it is very unfortunate that I am watching it after I did damage my processor and CPU. Yes, I didn’t know the difference so I just got it install it and it was working okay. Until one day I decided to phosichly clean my computer then I decided to lignin a little more the heatsink and - What! that was it, nothing no image nothing. After hours of inspecting and trying switching video cards and thing here and there - I found that I did damage the CPU and the board. I end up getting another computer as I needed to finish some business and now will fix my mistakes. lol. Thank you for the video.
@mtech872
8 жыл бұрын
Can you post a link to all the tools you used off amazon? doing my first pair of X5675's and want to make sure i have the right stuff. After watching countless videos this seems like the fastest and safest way.
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
I would recommend doing a search for "Bernzomatic Micro Pencil Torch," "Plastic Putty Knife," "Single Edge Industrial Razor Blades," and "800 wet dry Sandpaper." If you would like the optional helping hands tool as well, there are several to choose from, but the one I used is called the "Stalwart 75-MAG1009." Thanks
@louisalfred3
8 жыл бұрын
Jut a couple questions. Water doesn't damage a CPU? Do you think using Arctic Silver cleaner be safer ? just curious. Also the reason for not using lids is that about the way apple designed the motherboard?
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Water doesn't damage the CPU, but you should take care to cover all the exposed surfaces of the pcb board with the painter's tape when you're sanding the old solder off. This way you reduce the risk of contaminating the contact surface on the bottom. The Arctic Silver Cleaner is nothing more than an alcohol based solvent of some kind. It won't remove the solder, thats why it has to be scrapped off and sanded. There are several theories as to why Apple designed these Mac Pro's to use lidless cpu's. One belief is that the engineers were tying to squeeze the most efficiency out of the processors while allowing better cooling performance. The second being a strategic and financial reason, since it's almost impossible to find lidless processors, that were factory produced, except through Apple channels. This way they could control their hardware upgrade components at a premium price. I choose to believe the later. Using a lidded version of the cpu is actually more difficult to install since you have to buy separate washer/spacers for the heat-syncs, and have to break the snap connector that connects the fan, as well as adding additional heat cushions etc. All the while potentially damaging the motherboard if you over-tighten the heat-sync screws, which is very easy to do. Furthermore, since it's pretty difficult to firmly seat the heat-sync, there tends to be a higher chance of overheating causing random restarts and shutdowns. Using de-lidded cpu's doesn't require any modding of the stock motherboard, heat-syncs etc., fearing over-tightening and problems with over-heating.
@anthonylao9133
5 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to remove a soldered on cpu from a board
@adelismail9321
4 жыл бұрын
i will notice once i got water on the CPU it will not work again
@xwyl
7 жыл бұрын
I guess liquid metal is good at dissolving the remaining indium on the die, can you have a try?
@Fluxirya
4 жыл бұрын
it does work bro
@ImWateringPSUs
4 жыл бұрын
I also made a full tutorial, 2020 version, since this method can also be used to improve Overclocking capabilities: kzitem.info/news/bejne/s3qOtqWtkIZnp6w
@ComblessMan
7 жыл бұрын
I am curious, do all the processors have this IHS applied? Are they available without the IHS? Is there a cost difference? Where were you able to buy the processors? I am getting a used MacPro and am planning future upgrades. Thank you. Great video.
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, you can' t buy lidless cpu's from any official Apple distributor. However, you can usually find lidless cpu's off ebay, which can be pretty expensive, or if you choose to do the delidding yourself and save some money. Xeon processors that will work for the 2009 models are not that expensive now, and can also be found on ebay. For the very fastest processors, i.e. X5690, expect to pay considerably more than you would for a X5680 and hardly notice any difference in performance. So consider the price per performance before spending a hundred dollars more than you need to. You can review the list of all the compatible processors from the following URL: goo.gl/5qYTwC
@joniweindorf2334
7 жыл бұрын
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@joniweindorf2334
7 жыл бұрын
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@stephenpotts481
7 жыл бұрын
What models have delidded processors. Neither of my Mac Pro's are lidless. They are factory original. 2010 Quad core 2.8 and 2012 6 core. To delid these would present problems in heatsink fitment? A 2 mm difference?
@matthewgray713
7 жыл бұрын
Only the 2009 4,1 dual processor Mac Pro's have de-lidded CPU's as standard from the Apple factory. The single processor 2009, dual and single 2010 & 2012 Mac Pro's have the IHS left in tact from the factory. So this mod is only necessary for the 2009 dual processor boards.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
I'm just curious is it ever possible to get these to a mirror finish? I quit and went with very smooth no solder on them but I wished I was able to the surfaces shiny. Any thoughts?
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
It is possible, however, it would require a jig of some kind to keep the die parallel to the sand paper surface so you don't round the ends of the die off from sanding. If you use a good thermal paste like TX-4 it will fill any microscopic spaces on the die head and ensure you have a good bond with the heat sync.
@hofmann_25
6 жыл бұрын
The 2010 Mac Pro's we Lidded anyway...
@allenk637
5 жыл бұрын
Any idea on how to test the processors one by one? At least one of my processors did not survive the process and I can't get the system to boot. Trying to figure out which is bad.
@danb.3649
5 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you had a good pair before delidding? It could be an issue with making sure the heat sync's are properly level. This requires evenly counting the rotations of the screws when tightening them down. You can also try remove the CPU B and just try booting off the CPU A if that fails then swap out the processor and try it again. I would also pull all your memory and only use slots 1 and 2 with a minimum of 4 GB. Be sure you zap your pram as well.
@wza360
4 жыл бұрын
Nice well done amazing video
@CharmandrigoGG
5 жыл бұрын
Why they need to be removed???? For what i remember the original Mac Pro 2010 processors do not have that thing removed at all, whats the risk?
@diyguy1808
5 жыл бұрын
You're correct. The 2010 models though 2012 don't need to have the IHS removed. 2009 models certainly do when upgrading the processors, without needing to modify the heat syncs etc. However, for some people there is a slight boost in efficiency with removing the IHS even on the 2010-2012 models.
@AbdallahRouhli
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Guy, first things first, thank you very much for this well done video I followed your instructions, but halas my two CPU I removed the led heater cover of didn't keep the central part in. I ended having two CPUs now without this silver central part. My question : Are my two CPUs ruined? Can I find this silver material somewhere and by it to glue it back ? Is it possible to glue that thing back for the CPUs to run again ? Thank you for your answer.
@diyguy1808
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you over heated the cpu's. If you used the razors to add tension to the IHS when adding your heat source, the IHS should pop off without pulling off the cpu from the die.
@agxster
8 жыл бұрын
Hello again DIY guy, I finally found time tonight to delid my test processors. The first one I managed to cut the capacitors (oops!) and the 2nd I did ok overall, although at first I angled the processor too much on the helping hand so only one half came off. Just a query please about the leftover adhesive which we use the razors to cut through during the first stage. Is it ok to leave the remaining adhesive on there after delidding or do you scrape it off?
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Practice definitely makes perfect. :-) Yes, remove the mastic glue, I usually use my finger nail to scrape it off - it's not too difficult to do.
@agxster
8 жыл бұрын
+DIY Guy Thanks will do!
@vacuousvoid
7 жыл бұрын
Worked like a charm, Thanks :)
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear. :-)
@puddytat62
7 жыл бұрын
have you ever done tests to see if there actually is any proof that taking off the lid makes the processor run cooler? Seems like this is alot of work with a ton of possibility to damage the cpu ... Are you still doing this to older macs or do you recommend people just buy the 2010 macs if avaialble
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
The exercise of this video was to show how to upgrade and install new CPU's to Mac Pro 2013 specs (trash can Mac Pro), since you can't purchase OEM de-lidded cpu's from Apple or anyone else for that matter. Apple designed the 2009 Mac Pro dual processor logic boards to use lidless CPU's in socketed slots. I'm sure Apple Engineers had their reasons, whether it was maximizing cooling, and clock speed, I don't know. However, you can use the lidded versions, which can be easily found on the open market, but the added thickness of the lid can potentially damage your logic board if left on. The difference in heat dissipation from a lidded to non-lidded cpu is probably negligible for most users. However, you have 4 independent screws on the heat-syncs that are deep accessed with a spring tensioner, requiring a long allen wrench to tighten. It's really difficult to try to evenly tighten down the screws to make sure it's flush even with the cpu - even when counting turns. Even a slight variation of a turn or so can result in damaging the logic board, or off-setting the heat-sync at an angle preventing flush contact with the die head and heat-sync. For the value, I still think the 2009 Mac Pro dual processor models are the best value on the market. It only requires doing a firmware update to make it a 5,1 version (2010-2012) and then upgrade your processors, memory, SSD and a faster video card and you have a speed machine that will probably last for the next 5 years or more.
@puddytat62
7 жыл бұрын
I have seen someone do a test of lidless vs lidded and the difference was 3 degrees so not really worth the hassle or anxiety I am not sure I would put that much faith in Apple engineering as a reason to lid or not lid... The vast majority of people use washers to lift up the heat sink and keep the user from over tightening plus simply releasing the cable to make the fan connectors work is much less stressful. Can I still upgrade the firmware to make it a 5,1 without upgrading the CPUs? I do agree with a good GPU the machine will do very well and with a dual channel SAS card the 8 drive raid can be fairly quick Of course no Thunderbolt connection unfortunately .
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
There is really no benefit to attempting the 5,1 firmware update from 4,1 unless your processors support it. The firmware patch will allow you to make the update, however, if the processor isn't supported in the 2009 Mac Pro then it won't boot. However, there is a large amount of information on the firmware update and what the requirements are. I would recommend reading through the following articles so you have a better grasp on the pros and cons of what's involved. For myself and anyone else going from an 8 core machine to a 12 core machine, the 5,1 firmware makes absolute sense. I would recommend reviewing the following published articles and message boards on the upgrade issue so you can make a determination on what makes the most sense for you. www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/faq/mac-pro-early-2009-nehalem-how-to-upgrade-processors.html www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/step_by_step_mac_pro_processor_upgrade forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,852.0.html forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-cpu-compatibility-list.1954766/ forums.macrumors.com/threads/4-1-dual-cpu-delid-or-leave-the-lid-down.1959772/
@m.clifford-bauer5253
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm currently trying to finalize a Mac Pro 2010 for a very decent price. Although the shipping price seems to go upward within our two emails, so setting that aside my question are about the two 2.4 Ghz processors. Based on your video to which I felt is very informative, if the two 2.4's have the IHS (assuming this unit was not modified), AND in knowing the additional heat will 1) slow down the processor speed and 2) over time reduce the life span of the transistors, would you suggest or recommed removing the IHS on my new X5680 3.33Ghz?
@diyguy1808
6 жыл бұрын
If it's an actual 2010 model and not a modified 2009 model showing itself as a 2010 with the 5,1 firmware flash update, I would probably not de-lid the IHS. It will be much easier to swap out processors when you want to upgrade without having to remove the IHS. If you're concerned with heat issues affecting lifespan, you can always re-apply a high-performance thermal liquid metal compound like Thermal Grizzly, which drops temperatures by as much as 5-6 degrees over other thermal grease brands. There are a lot of resources on KZitem on how to do this. However, to get your biggest bang for a buck, get a 2009 model instead and do the cpu upgrade, remove the IHS, and flash your firmware, which you can find here: goo.gl/DCn3Wg Other than memory and video card, the 2009 model is basically the same as the 2010 at about half the price. Compatible processors can be found for as little as $100 for a matching pair for the dual processor model. I recently found a 2009 2 X 2.26 E5520 model for around $400, from a local computer recycler, that is now a 2 X 3.33 X5680 after a de-lidding upgrade You can safely upgrade the processors of 5,1 models with any of the following cpu configurations which can be found here: goo.gl/rU4RHi I hope this helps.
@gerald4027
6 жыл бұрын
Carl Clifford-Bauer.I think the 2 cpu 2009 to 2012 does not have lids.The single cpu mac pros of those years have lids.mine is a 2009 2.93 ghz 4 core updated to a 2010 3.33 ghz lidded cpu.
@gerald4027
6 жыл бұрын
DIY Guy.my 2009 2.93 ghz 4 core single cpu was updated to 2010 3.33 ghz 6 core and the lid did not have to be removed.The single cpu has to be delidded to work in a 2 cpu system.
@gerald4027
6 жыл бұрын
Carl Clifford-Bauer.I am having problems installing windows 3.1 on a mac pro because there is no floppie drive.
@christobal747
7 жыл бұрын
The video is good. Except for one thing. "Don't go in to deep" is not a precise advice. While being extremely carful I easily cut of one of those little transistor things at the bottom. They are extremely close to the glue. I am very sad.
@milanwoltgas
5 жыл бұрын
xeon e5440????
@KingBarney
5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the Mac Pro 4.1 doesn't support E5440, so no point in delidding one for it
@Grooby97
6 жыл бұрын
Do you also clean the rubber seal too?
@diyguy1808
6 жыл бұрын
It's easy to scrape it off with your fingernail.
@JeremyWilliamson
7 жыл бұрын
Do you have one or know of anyone who has a tutorial like this but for a 2006 Mac Pro 1,1? I want to do more than just upgrade, I dont mind rebuilding it... but I need to do something... It's maxed out and I cant update the MAC OS lol Quad-Core 16gb RAM 1GB VRAM (upgraded card) BLUETOOTH usb added USB WiFI 300mbps added I would love to update the processor to at least 8-cores, or hopefully 12... but definitely need to do that process of making it 64-bit to install the newer MAC OS versions. Any thoughts or feedback would be greatly appreciated! :)
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
The 2006 Mac Pro uses lidded CPU's so you don't need to go through this process.
@roul3688
6 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of water to put on your cpu just to sand. If you're using any liquid at all, it would be rubbing alcohol, and very little at that.
@diyguy1808
6 жыл бұрын
Water won't affect the processors. Just don't let them soak for weeks at a time. You could use naphtha but would be exposing yourself to unnecessary hydrocarbons. The painter's tape helps keep water and debris off the contacts and capacitors.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
Tried this and destroyed the CPU board started to blister I realized after the second time ....yeah twice!!!...the razor blade transfer heat onto the board. it got blistered... i held the torch to the lid and moved it back and forth (too much?) it didn' pop off...what would cause it not to come off? Obviously, I'm heating too long but is this because I didn't cut fully through the seal with the razor blades? input appreciated. Should I just hold the torch in one place, over the center of the lid?
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
It sounds to me that you had not broken the mastic seal completely, that seals the IHS to the PCB, before applying the torch. If you review the following image you will see where the cut lines are. goo.gl/Lb1sYo The razor blades actually act like a heat sync to dissipate heat away from the PCB board when applying the torch and applies a little tension against the IHS so when the solder begins to melt it causes it to separate with a slight "pop."
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
Ok will do one more thing I plan on giving this another shot (sucker for punishment) If I don't get it to come off after say 30-45 seconds what should I do?
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
I might actually buy a cheap lidded processor to practice before I do this again
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Just concentrate your heat source on the IHS lid itself. If the mastic has been completely severed from the PCB board, and the razor blades are adding tension, then it should pop within within 30 seconds. If not then back off the heat, let it cool down and check that you have broken the seal with the mastic glue. Just be careful not to damage the capacitors in the process. Use the visual guide I linked earlier.
@louisalfred3
7 жыл бұрын
I heard someone suggest floss to cut the mastic I was thinking of that as a possibility
@ferrogroup260
6 жыл бұрын
Is there any hope to do this with a mid-2010 2.66Ghz macbookpro 17?
@diyguy1808
6 жыл бұрын
This alternation is for Mac Pro 2009 -2012 models only, not MacBook Pro laptops.
@ancelrick5396
6 жыл бұрын
No.
@deus04rome
7 жыл бұрын
Did you test the CPU? If the CPU survived from the heat.
@danb.3649
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the cpu's worked after the procedure.
@HistoryandReviews
3 жыл бұрын
I want a 6 core cpu in mine
@johnnyarcade5546
5 жыл бұрын
Would a heat gun work?
@KingBarney
5 жыл бұрын
It'd work better
@diyguy1808
5 жыл бұрын
If the heat gun got hot enough and was localized in a directed stream. You don't want to get the surrounding die too hot.
@scrappydogfinance8434
5 жыл бұрын
WILL THIS IMPROVE COOLING AND PERFORMANCE ON A DELL T7500 DUAL XEON X5690 WORKSTATION?
@angelomets
7 жыл бұрын
Hi DIY Guy, I have a Mid 2012 MB Pro with a I7-3520M. I want to upgrade it, but I'm not to familiar with knowing what types of CPU to get since there's so many. I know I7 is the highest quality & than it becomes a battle on choosing how many cores, cache, & power watt. I'm not sure if mine has a graphic card built inside my CPU... Than also choosing the right size ughh haha 🤦🏽♂️ So.. I come to you because you seem like the guy who could help me out.. 😄🙏🏽
@asdfasdf4345artsdfg
7 жыл бұрын
This is an upgrade for the Mac Pro, not the MacBook Pro.
@iadhaid1230
8 жыл бұрын
If its soldered then what is the point? Solder is the best and the most risky to do you'reself
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Using lidded cpu's in the Mac Pro 2009-2012 models can result in damaging the logic board if you over tighten the heat sync. Secondly, removing the lids will reduce the heat generated and provide a more stable machine since these things tend to get really hot when doing heavy video production work.
@luiscarlosrodriguez8979
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, it is possible to upgrade the processor to a macbook pro mid-2010 13''?
@macuser102
7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've followed the tutorial very closely, and have not nicked the caps at all...but I get no boot. I used wet 800, 1000, and then 2000 sand paper. Is there any chance I sanded too much? That's the only thing I can think of that may have damaged the CPUs....(Yes they were tested working before with IHS on, yes tested one at a time, yes tested with different tightness on the heatsinks.) Any thoughts?
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Is your Mac Pro a 2009 and did you flash your firmware yet to 5,1?
@macuser102
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is a 2009, it is flashed to 5,1. Boot ROM MP51.007F.B03
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Have you attempted the remove the heat-sync and reseat the processors, even swapping them around? I know that sound odd since they should work in either slot, but I've had stranger things happen. Did you also update your memory or move any of your DIMM's around? What is your memory configuration, 1333Mhz or 1066Mgz? I would use only one DIMM at a time to see if you have a problematic DIMM. Were the slot contact pins clean and free of dust before seating them? I use a magnifying glass to make sure debris, dust etc. is cleaned out prior to seating the new processor. Did you have IHS processors installed prior to doing the update and working in the mac pro then? Were spacers used that you forgot to remove? Remember, you should be able to fully tighten the screws down tight now that they have the IHS removed without worrying about damaging your logic board, just use the figure 8 pattern to tighten a little at a time, like changing a wheel on your car. If all these things have been tried, try replace your previous processors and see if it will boot.
@naturecollision
8 жыл бұрын
that match on your 70$ keyboard though..
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, lol. It was a lot to manage doing a self video while trying to keep on task. However, the keyboard was fine, fortunately, and doesn't show any sign of burn marks.
@c0rpse1
6 жыл бұрын
you make great videos too bad you stopped
@mahmoudeaid2
8 жыл бұрын
please need urgent ... I have a Mac pro 5.1 2010 i need it to show it's 2012 instead of 2010 i know it dose not make it any deference but i need it to be 2012 can u help me with a frimware or any thing to do that !!! PLZ
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge there is no known method to changing the built year in the firmware, which is not really necessary anyways, unless someone was trying to pass an older Mac Pro model off as a newer model.
@mahmoudeaid2
8 жыл бұрын
some one did it and there is a known one for turning 4.1 in to 5.1 with updating the firmware but i need it to be 2012 cuz i ruined 2012 in a company i need to replaced and i don't have 2012 ... thankx any way :)
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
You can access the Mac Pro firmware upgrade tool, from 4,1 to 5,1 on Netkas.org, from the following URL. However, it doesn't change the year built date on the machine itself. forum.netkas.org/index.php/topic,1122.0.html
@rockcaholic
8 жыл бұрын
Can my 2009 macbook 17ich be upgraded to an i7 processor? If so what does that mean exactly, will it be faster?
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Without a logic board swap there isn't really a processor swap option on MacBook Pro's that I'm aware of. This tutorial is for 2009-2012 Mac Pro's that have the ability to pull out the older processors and replace with newer versions, with the removal of a few screws.
@sirakzekiwos8024
8 жыл бұрын
Can i do this even with my Mac Book pro 2009 ?
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no.
@SynrsCreed
2 жыл бұрын
@11:13 lol
@capndavey1
8 жыл бұрын
Westminster hehe
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
I was having a challenge when audio monitoring with headphones, what I was saying during the filming, due to a slight variation of latency on the recording end, and it would cause me to slur my speech. It definitely did sound like Westminster though. lol
@MacSoundSolutions
8 жыл бұрын
Hey DIY, Do you know what the temp differences are with and without the IHS, curious to know how big a difference it is between the two. I can run istat on mine to see what my temps are. I run pro tools and FCPX all the time, use handbreak, play games and even on a hot summer day I have yet to have a random shutdown. Also running 4 internal drives, pcie slots are full and a GTX 980 ti graphics card. I have upgraded twice first to 5650s and recently I replaced those with 5680s although it was a bit tricky. I also just upgraded a friends 2010 mac pro with 5680s and he is very happy with the performance boost. Good video, might consider deliding in the future if the temps are really that different. Interesting how apple continued to use chips with the IHS on them in the 2010 mac pros and 2012. I have upgrade videos leaving the IHS on for anyone interested. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uneazYhjoXymi4o it is harder than installing delided CPUs you just have to be careful.
@diyguy1808
8 жыл бұрын
I haven't done any hard testing of my internal temperatures of my Mac Pro other than what Mac Fan Control is showing with delidded cpu's under intense processing, though I don't suffer from heat related random shutdowns myself...knock on wood. I do believe that a lot of the heat transfer and cooling process is a result of the thermal paste used and how much surface area is in contact with the cpu and heat sync. Personally, I use premium thermal pastes like Tuniq TX-4 thermal grease and haven't had any issues. However, heat over a period of time, with thermal contractions, can have an adverse affect on your components and this is the silent killer of electrical components like hardening arteries. Currently, I have my case fully maxed with every drive bay occupied, every PCI slot occupied, every ram slot occupied, and a fairly large 7950 Radeon video card. I have to admit this Mac Pro could fully heat my house in the winter time if I wanted to, lol, so every little bit helps. IMHO, I believe that for anyone wanting to upgrade their 2009-2012 Mac Pro dual processors models, delidding is a better alternative since they don't have to worry about breaking their logic boards by over tightening, or under tightening the heat sync screws, or worrying about adding additional thermal pads to the heat syncs and making sure the fan connectors are fully seated as well. Thanks
@MacSoundSolutions
7 жыл бұрын
My CPU A temps go up to 75c... pretty hot when they are doing heavy processing video compression or heavy pro tools mixing, I think 85c is max for a 5680 and 5690. Using iStat monitors fan adjustments keeps it cool, down around 55c if things get hot. Keep in mind that 2010 and 2012 mac pros have the IHS on teh chips so not sure why other than easier install it is really that needed to remove them. Apples stock system fan settings don't kick in till things get really hot. I have not had any overheat shutdowns with my 2009 with IHS on. Idle my temps are cpu A is 45c and cpu b is 40c cpu B is always cooler than CPU A. So fan management is a good idea for when your pushing your system hard.
@thomaslindell5448
7 жыл бұрын
Christensen 20 fucking minutes
@EverCreateStudio
7 жыл бұрын
uhm, your on a towel.
@EverCreateStudio
7 жыл бұрын
you're*
@d2-137
6 жыл бұрын
this is a "delid", that is what he did and is very dangerous, actually theres no correct or good way to do it because is easy to damage the processor doing this
@diyguy1808
6 жыл бұрын
Delidding dangerous? You're kidding right? lol There is always a risk when doing work on a sealed system. However, in the dozen times I've done this procedure using this method, I've never had a failure. The processors are working still in their Mac Pro workstations.
@d2-137
6 жыл бұрын
So now i have the key for the american dream :)
@twizz420
5 жыл бұрын
I think you need your tonsils removed, bud. Or something... Just listening to you inhale makes me feel like I can't breathe.
@christobal747
7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but nobody should do this. The reason is that most people think they give all important information when they actually don't because they just don't have the expertise/knowledge to do. So it's not their fault. And when you think for yourself you'll easily find this is too much risk. I guess the chance of success is only about 50%.
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
I apologize is this step was ambiguous and not clear. At 7:40 I mention and show, as and example on the PCB board, that there are capacitors so to only cut as deep where you feel the glue has been separated. The glue only resides to the portion of the IHS that sits flush with the PCB board before it raises up. To help clarify this procedure I've added a visual image for reference, and will include this with the video description and as a text overlay on the video as well. goo.gl/Lb1sYo
@christobal747
7 жыл бұрын
The picture is a good idea. It will help people a lot. Also the explanation about not to go deeper than the rising of the IHS. Problem is that the glue extends very close to the capacitors. Despite the frustration I did another one. I tried not to cut to deep. Still I made a few marks which I can see under a magnifying glass. Reason was that I didn''t want to heat up the thing while it was still glued. It took a long time heating up before it came off. Hope it didn't got damaged. Do you think I could get a capacitor soldered back on?
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
The capacitors are meant to filter current flowing into the CPU. Some people, who have damaged their capacitors when removing their IHS off their CPU, have had success running them even with a few missing - though I don't recommend doing this myself. Yes, it is possible to repair a capacitor on the PCB board of the CPU. However, it might be a challenge to try to determine what the capacitor value is when trying to purchase one from a distributor somewhere. It might be easier to find a dead CPU online for a few dollars and use the capacitors off that to make your repair, at least you would have eleven to use if you make a mistake.
@diyguy1808
7 жыл бұрын
Here is a good resource on working with panel mount capacitors etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-mount_technology
@asdfasdf4345artsdfg
6 жыл бұрын
If you do enough research and carefully follow all the necessary steps, you'll find that it's not too difficult to do - it's just nerve-racking. I was able to do it to a pair of X5670s with no problems.
@MD-173
6 жыл бұрын
can this be done on a 2012 13" Macbook Pro? thanks
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