The problem is that AEW already has a bunch of mini brands anyway. Everything is so disjointed. Each feud is more or less two factions fighting with each other on a small island for months on end with very little crossover with anyone else. An official brand split wouldn't change much.
@MrTambourineMan.
Жыл бұрын
They might not feel the need for so many factions with a second full two hour show that is it’s own brand. I think the stables are often so they can get five guys or girls seen on TV at once without having to dedicate a special segment/match to each person which would be impossible given how big their roster is
@Rebornblader
Жыл бұрын
@@MrTambourineMan. I just don't really believe that. I get the impression that each faction is just a group of friends that want to play together.
@burdockrootfarmer8928
Жыл бұрын
Excellent summary. I like AEW but describing it as "factions fighting on small islands for months on end" is a good summisation I'm gonna be tuning in over the next months tho as they build towards FD2 & All-In. Also looking forward to that AEW World Championship 4-Way.
@MisterDynamite
Жыл бұрын
Everyone is likely jumping the gun at this point regarding CM Punk's return, but to quote Sting, "The only thing's for sure is that nothing's for sure"
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
They already have 50,000 people pre registering for tickets bro
@greedygiddy2386
Жыл бұрын
Everyone here is just exhausting. Punk, the Elite and friends, FTR, Alvarez, Meltzer. The cryptic tweets, the rumor and innuendo, the back and forth whining, just all of them, exhausting. Real Housewives for neckbeards. They love the catty drama.
@BIGARMADA1988
Жыл бұрын
Real Housewives of neckbeards is so accurate for this situation. 😂
@nocap4557
Жыл бұрын
Plus the Brit Baker Thunder Rosa drama these people are absolute divas
@maqclark
Жыл бұрын
It's never a good sign when the backstage drama is more interesting than the on-screen product
@lookoutside8490
Жыл бұрын
It'll go peachy about the first 3-4 weeks. Then those shoot promos are going to come and Tony is not going to do nothing about it because he gets moist of off catering to smart fans.
@moralesharold87
Жыл бұрын
This is actually a very realistic way, this could possibly go.
@jayw.1042
Жыл бұрын
I say let them shoot but keep it cordial behind the scenes
@Lord_Bibulous
Жыл бұрын
@@jayw.1042If they could've done that, then "Brawl Out" doesn't happen. Too many egos, not enough leaders.
@ryno_8848
Жыл бұрын
So you're calling yourself stupid?
@Chico18124
Жыл бұрын
Too many shoot promos in that company. They come off like those indie promotions and not a professional company at all
@146zigzag3
Жыл бұрын
Really don't like the idea of adding another two hour show, especially if they're gonna split the rosters.
@kevinlee9929
Жыл бұрын
@@woof5185 TK is struggling with ROH and Dynamite. Adding another show will only make things worse.
@happytomakeyousick4172
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinlee9929 how exactly is he struggling ? From the people who watch roh, they seem to really enjoy it. Dynamite has been pretty dam good since revolution.
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
How is he struggling? How can fans complain about wrestler X Y and Z not getting tv time yet when another 2hr show is announced to accomodate that, then the narrative shifts to “oh a brand split will make it worse” it wont, it literally gives more talent a chance to shine on tv.
@kevinlee9929
Жыл бұрын
@@happytomakeyousick4172People have complaining about the quality of these shows for months. History shows that too much wrestling is a negative for a company.
@blakkbaloon8092
Жыл бұрын
He’s had almost a year to craft the perfect comeback promo. Remember when he had that time off he just stewed in the hatred for Hangman and used his promo back to shit talk him. He’s acting nice but when he gets his hands on a live mic, in Chicago, Oh boy. People will think its Festivis whit the airing of grievances.
@philly_sports1558
Жыл бұрын
To be fair if he were to come back they would probably do the program worked shoot-style. Have Punk come back and bury the Elite on the mic, have his mic cut off, and have the Elite come rushing from the stage to fight him. One of the Bucks can even bring a chair and hit him with it lol. Eventually FTR comes out to help Punk and it's a huge brawl until the agents come out. Pretty similar to how Matt Hardy returned to feud with Edge in 2005. Just fantasy booking but I think a return angle like that would get people talking. Just like the MJF "Fire Me" worked shoot promo did.
@Former_Employee
Жыл бұрын
A Festivus for the voiceless !
@Gum_Cuzzler
Жыл бұрын
At least that would be entertaining television lol
@thurmanwilliams7961
Жыл бұрын
Accommodate CM Punk??? He said he would work with them and that they won't work with him. He is just an on-air talent they are EVP's. If anyone is getting accomedated, it's them.
@davianamos3743
Жыл бұрын
So Jericho can call Punk a cancer but god forbid he responds back
@philly_sports1558
Жыл бұрын
I honestly can't tell if those two were friends at one point and their relationship went sour or if they always hated each other lol
@cruzito808
Жыл бұрын
Punk is a locker room cancer and Jericho does have some stooge moments.
@nocap4557
Жыл бұрын
Both are right Jericho is a stooge Punk a cancer
@sdmfmw9109
Жыл бұрын
Facts!!! Also all jericho cares about is himself and his position. If Punk came back, jerichos ass would be the first guy lobbying to work an angle with him.
@Baraka_Obama_
Жыл бұрын
Jericho secretly must be an EVP he's involved with everything
@Y2wray
Жыл бұрын
People forget that a lot of this also stemmed from media reporting a story or rumor that was bullshit to begin with: Colt being moved to ROH or fired because of Punk. Between those rumors, people in the company genuinely disrespecting him (see his match w/ Bobby Fish, where Fish kicks out at 3.1, just to spite him), and then Hangman cutting that promo on him? I'd flip shit on the company and shitty management and media, like this segment.
@megostryder
Жыл бұрын
This is what is agravating. Punk is not the one leaking to dirt sheets untrue stories. All of this was The Elite. Sooner or later Punk has to defend himself. But every time Tony is near getting this solved stories start to leak out...everyone climbs on the dish punk bandwagon and naturally Punk gets pissed and has to respond. If this would stop and the Elite and Jericho grew up and got professional and stopped seeding the discontent the problem would be solved. If Tony Kahn had any leadership skills this would have never gotten to this point. I fast forward through any Elite Match. I've seen one and that means you've seen them all. Non of it is wrestling. None of it moves the needle. In fact 200,000 drop out any time they're on. AEW will never grow until they start featuring Wrestlers. They have so few. They need Punk. If these Indy wannabe's won't do what's right AEW doesn't need them.
@maggielusk6833
Жыл бұрын
@@megostryder I agree the narrative from the start has been EVERYTHINGS Punks fault! Blatant bias due to leaked stories from the Elite n Jericho! But hey ho let's just all run with its all Punks fault! Some of us see what's really happening!
@user-do2ev2hr7h
Жыл бұрын
The problem with AEW IMHO is that Tony won't decide on a direction as it is. He needs to pick one creative/management direction and just say "we're doing this and anyone who can't get on board with with that can have their release" Sometimes being the boss means telling certain people to shape up or ship out, and then accepting that some of them will be shipping out.
@philly_sports1558
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate Solomonster for trying to observe all sides of the argument of the Punk vs. Elite situation this entire time. He has on his own opinion on it but he doesn't let any bias get in the way of communicating how he feels. There's people like Meltzer and Alvarez who lean way more on the Elite side and make Punk out to be a heinous human being who should be blackballed from the wrestling business. On the other side, there's people like Jim Cornette who believe Punk to be Jesus figure being crucified for the sins of The Elite, Jericho, and Moxley. I'm glad the Solomonster can at least look at the situation objectively.
@XxPlatinumChief
Жыл бұрын
I love Jim but the insane dick riding be crazy I love. Punk too more so over the bucks but damn man
@karma_coin
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see CM Punk is coming back. AEW just wasn't the same without him. He was the reason I got back into wrestling again.
@syxxwilliams
Жыл бұрын
Hangman started this shit first but I guess everyone forgot about that
@yadonegoofed1427
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention all the rumors spread about him before that point for almost a year.
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how much Hangman gets a pass in this whole mess. He's basically the one who kick started this whole conflict and was horribly unprofessional. For whatever reason he gets handwaved excuses
@GtheMVP
Жыл бұрын
I just want to see Punk call Jericho a stooge on live TV, it's the perfect description and it cracks me up. AEW needs him badly, and not just because the built in storyline with the elite is easy mega $$ and intrigue.
@troyaturner1979
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Punk back, but only if everyone can conduct themselves like professionals & mature grown responsible adults.
@samoanjoseph1457
Жыл бұрын
I was a Punk fan and even I have to say sounds like you don't want him back then, because few have been mature about this, least of all Punk.
@troyaturner1979
Жыл бұрын
@Samoan Joseph that's why I said everyone. It doesn't stop at Punk. It goes for The Elite & everyone else involved in this mess.
@DeadmanInc336
Жыл бұрын
@@troyaturner1979 to be fair; it's really sounding less and less and less like this was about Punk vs the Elite and more about Punk vs the Bucks. Especially since Omega and Punk hashed it out afterwards.
@DeadmanInc336
Жыл бұрын
@@samoanjoseph1457 yeah, dude. I was a massive CM Punk fan for years. But the way he conducted himself in that media scrum really turned me off the guy. Absolutely embarrassing and humiliating. It's no wonder the dude has the reputation that he does and why for 7 years everyone called him a quitter or a crybaby.
@mrlaidback83
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadmanInc336 agreed. I know the Hangman and The Elite are far from innocent, but CM Punk's melt down caused way more damage to AEW than they ever did imho.
@paoerfulone1089
Жыл бұрын
If Matt, Edge, and Lita could all work together for a program. If Shawn and Bret could coexist and work together, there’s no reason why these people can’t. But I really hope that TK acts like their boss and makes them all sit in a room and hatch this all out. And if Kenny and the Bucks don’t want to play ball or don’t want to participate, strip them of their EVP status. This childish crap has *GOT* to stop. It’s time for all parties involved to be men and professionals here: Squash or address whatever issues they have, put them to the side, and work together for the sake of the company, fans, and doing business.
@moralesharold87
Жыл бұрын
First two scenarios had an actual boss that made them be professional, Tony doesn’t have that in him.
@FBA-Chuckyd0421
Жыл бұрын
@@moralesharold87 i was thinking that same thing... Tony Khan is too nice trying to please everyone
@Courageous91
Жыл бұрын
That requires someone who everyone knows the buck stops with that person in charge of the company. Everyone knows the buck stopped (and likely still does) with Vince in WWE. AEW doesn't have that because Tony is a spineless little worm who hasn't realised that he isn't playing with Action Figures
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
In theory, this is exactly what should go down, the problem is said "Boss" is Tony Khan who doesn't actually want to be a boss.
@bryanfahey3144
Жыл бұрын
That could be a good PPV name..AEW Civil War
@bryanfahey3144
Жыл бұрын
@@blakemaxfield4267 that song is almost too perfect for the situation. What we’ve got here is failure to communicate….do it Tony!
@turtlehead2
Жыл бұрын
Just amazing at how on Punk’s FIRST DAY he applauded the company on how well they kept Brodie’s health situation in house, and now the leaks. Work.
@yadonegoofed1427
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't disqualify the possibility that the locker room had it out for Punk since day 1, and this situation was tue perfect excuse for his detractors to act on their disdain for him.
@vladimirognyanov6874
Жыл бұрын
People are buying tickets for Wembley because of the rumours for a Punk return, not because they want to see Orange Cassidy
@paha4209
Жыл бұрын
Punk isn't that big of a deal in Europe than us fans believe he is. Buy my ticket anyway I don't care if punk return or not.
@vladimirognyanov6874
Жыл бұрын
@@paha4209 fair enough but it's not just because of Punk, it's about the story and all the controversy
@paha4209
Жыл бұрын
@@vladimirognyanov6874 maybe, maybe not I don't know. I can just tell you that I don't care and that I've seen multiple people from Europe rather hoping for Ospreay and ZSJ than mentioning Punk. If all people are willing to play ball together great it would certainly a boost for AEW, if not the company isn't going under over that.
@MazeDaGr8
Жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again All of this could've been avoided or squashed by now if Tony had any sort of Spine or Balls & all these people arguing about who was more right between Punk and the Elite at this point, It really Doesn't Matter!! The problem is you got these Grown Ass Men Bickering and going back and forth like a bunch of school kids And even worse, the locker room is picking sides like a Civil War. The point is rather Punk comes back or not, this embarrassment has to STOP!
@davidberry3738
Жыл бұрын
Why is Hangman Page always brushed over when he not only was unprofessional, it was possibly at the expense of the highest grossing PPV? Why are all the backstage leaks ignored? Why is the Elite mocking Punk and the situation on LIVE TV in a high profile match in MULTIPLE spots ignored AFTER they said people should let it die? Why would people say this new show is to accommodate "Punk" and not accommodate the Elite and Jericho when Punk is not only the biggest draw AND is willing to work with everyone? TK is paying millions in guaranteed money for Punk to sit at home and not getting anything out of it while ratings on his shows are dropping. That is not to say I think Punk is innocent, far from it, but why do a lot of these "reporters" keep ignoring the problematic behavior of the Elite and Hangman Page, and why do they ignore the locker room issues that have existed WAY before Punk ever thought about signing??? The truth is at the end of the day, both sides are wrong, one side is being demonized, and it's ultimately the fault and responsibility of Tony Kahn.... This whole video is biased.
@donnieburgess8488
Жыл бұрын
Finally, I’ve found someone else that sees this. Punk isn’t innocent, but these things just didn’t happen because he woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Issues like this have followed AEW since the beginning.
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
That's what I feel. Punk is far from a saint, but the man was falsely accused of costing someone their job or at the least falsely accused of having them demoted. Punk also had people make those accusations towards him live on TV and said person seems to get a pass in this whole matter. Their are multiple dirt sheet rumors that are trying to paint punk is the most unprofessional unlikeable person despite evidence showing other wise or how said dirt sheet writer conveniently leaves out crucial information or context that explain the situation more clearly. Too many people want so badly to act like everything is Punks fault that they want to down play all the other shit that shows maybe Punk actually had a legit point and reason for his gripes.
@Neethan3247
Жыл бұрын
Because Punk was way more unprofessional afterwards.
@davidberry3738
Жыл бұрын
@@Neethan3247 How was he "way more" unprofessional? Didn't Jericho have a match with Colt Cabana on National TV as an FU? Didn't the Elite, in CHICAGO do VARIOUS spots mocking Punk AND the incident in a VERY high profile match on National TV? Didn't Adam Page go into business for himself in a promo on NATIONAL tv which started all this? Haven't people been leaking false stories that Dave Meltzer keeps running with without checking? Didn't he even have to apologize for one???? Punk respond to Page on TV, it was wrong but provoked. He got mad at the press conference and spoke out, completely unprofessional but provoked He and the EVPs who should have MORE accountability got into a brawl, that is wrong on all sides. He then responded to Dave Meltzer spreading a bogus story which again was provocation but he handled it badly. He did not go to the Buck's hometown and have a match MOCKING them in VARIOUS spots on live TV or put "FU PUNK" chants on his KZitem show when he is the EVP.... They are ALL equally wrong, but it is TK's fault for not stepping in when Page went off script and sitting EVERYONE down If you think Punk is "way more wrong" you're not just biased, you're drinking the Kool aid. You can believe he was "more wrong" that is subjective, but even if he was "way more wrong" it's not objective commentary to ignore the majorly unprofessional things one side has done Publicly and on National TV and their own ongoing KZitem series....
@antfrancis9941
Жыл бұрын
Isn't it funny how the real life, backstage & behind the scene goings on in wrestling is actually more interesting & drama filled than any of the weekly product that they put out on TV. & this both from the 2 biggest brands, wwe & aew.😏
@_.El._
Жыл бұрын
AEW doesn’t fix these issues they’ll soon be ALL EXTINCT WRESTLING
@robertrankin8031
Жыл бұрын
nigga they got money and you watch it
@Rowri88
Жыл бұрын
@@teagan9184 not always a determined factor, WCW Thunder came out and 3 years later the company poof lol.
@Rowri88
Жыл бұрын
@WOOF ! eh i dont know, im just enjoying the drama lol, but i do see similar patterns to WCW, time will tel
@youngbreezy5859
Жыл бұрын
@@Rowri88 WCW was owned by the Tuner Network and Eric Bishoff was just a bad business man wasting the network funds. Tna suffered the same fate when they brought in Eric Bishoff. Moral of the story: Never hire Eric Bishoff.
@ehi80
Жыл бұрын
Clear what side you’re on..I’m with Punk. AEW is trash booking and Punk is the only thing worth MAYBE watching.
@jrocmfdeal918
Жыл бұрын
Explain to me how AEW gets criticized for having a bloated roster then they actually do something about it by adding a new show and they still get criticized? 🤔
@darnell16player
Жыл бұрын
Cause they’re not the E and not have everyone’s favorite wrestling body type which is big sweaty men everywhere
@thegeekhustler
Жыл бұрын
Breaking it down, Cowboy Shit was mislead and started this fiasco. Punk tore him a new asshole. TK let it all happen, so the EVP's got mad. TK let Punk speak freely at the scrum, then the Bucks broke Punk's door down, while stooges and Megha were trying to stop them. Punk was injured, Steel's wife had a broken leg, Larry was agitated, so Punk threw the first punch. Omega was probably trying to maintain a semblance of peace, but got bit by Steel trying to defend his wife and friend. Regardless of your stance, both sides were in the wrong, but TK honesty deserves to be chewed out for not once really putting his foot down. As the owner of the company, he needed to set examples, instead of buying the friendship of his growing pro wrestling fantasy league.
@Baraka_Obama_
Жыл бұрын
Punk secretly talked to Omega after Brawl Out and told him he doesn't have a problem with him
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
In general this all falls on the fact Tony didn't act like a actual boss and do his job. This giant ass conflict could have easily been stopped dead in it's tracks had Tony stopped it.
@TheJSexton24
Жыл бұрын
Why would he call out Jericho??? Because Meltzer started shit on his message board cmon Solomonster
@nocap4557
Жыл бұрын
Meltzer and Alvarez definitely on the payroll
@8Bitorbust
Жыл бұрын
Jericho is a snake in the grass.
@Doenerlover69
Жыл бұрын
Jericho has been the most obvious of Meltzer's sources for years. Ever wondered why in WON stories about him, Jericho is the most badass guy ever? Like when he put down Brock Lesnar backstage after Summer Slam 2016 or when MVP confrontend him in a hotel lobby about supporting Trump and Jericho said "I don't fight jobbers" and the whole hotel lobby supposedly started cheering and clapping for him? Or on a more recent note, remember when Punk was suspended and suddenly good guy Chris wanted to have a world championship match against Colt Cabana? I don't even think Jericho necessarily hates Punk he just loves to insert himself as the good guy into any story.
@8Bitorbust
Жыл бұрын
@@blakemaxfield4267 yessir.
@EverettDudgeon138
Жыл бұрын
As much as I know everyone wants to see a Punk vs The Elite feud but I think that’s only going to split the fans and leave a sour taste in the mouths of a portion of the audience depending on the outcome of the feud. As crazy as it sounds, I’d actually like to see Omega ask for Punk’s help against someone (let’s say hypothetically the other members of The Elite are out with a Kayfabe injury) This then could cause friction between Omega and the rest of The Elite looking at this as Omega selling out. It’s a bit clunky but I think the pop of a united front of Omega and Punk would be a lot greater than the outcome of a versus match. Punk could agree to a temporary truce on the basis that Omega agrees to a CMFTR vs The Elite match. He agrees without consulting The Bucks....and the match ends with The Bucks superkicking Kenny and walking out on him.
@JustinsEliteReviews
Жыл бұрын
That’s similar to The Bucks vs Omega & Ibushi back in 2018 in New Japan
@EverettDudgeon138
Жыл бұрын
@@JustinsEliteReviews Yup. I think it would work better than deflating half the audience based on the outcome of Punk vs Omega right out of the gate. It's a no win situation if they do a match right out of the gate. Punk wins then the fans will look at it as TK caving to CM Punk and if The Elite wins it will come off as "EVPs booking themselves to go over"
@TihetrisWeathersby
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he's coming back, It would have been a shame to end things because of Petty drama
@SairajRKamath
Жыл бұрын
Glad someone finally called out how irrelevant Brandon Cutlet really is to AEW. His bark is bigger than his bite.
@Baraka_Obama_
Жыл бұрын
Is Jericho a EVP?? He's acting like Cody's replacement
@voxextremos22
Жыл бұрын
@@blakemaxfield4267 Then The Elite should be stripped of thier positions as EVPs
@sdd619
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking the soft roster split is more like an A,B,C & D roster. One workes Dynamite/Dark, one works Rampage & Collision, one works live events, The other works ROH/Week off & it rotates.
@luisa.barrueta1822
Жыл бұрын
First of all, any of this shit wouldn’t had happened if someone like Undertaker would’ve been in the locker room. He would’ve straighten those boys out, including Jericho, another legend. Punk is also at fault here as well as Omega, the Bucks and even Adam Page who said he refuses veterans advice. They all have to understand that business is business and what’s best for the company overall. And Tony needs to put a set of balls to make sure situations like these don’t happen again.
@SputNStuff
Жыл бұрын
the ace steel bite references somehow remain a fresh running joke
@davidduvall9669
Жыл бұрын
Tony is learning on the fly the hard part of ownership of a promotion. Dealing with difficult talent and difficult issues. Something Vince did all these years.
@mrowley7300
Жыл бұрын
What made me laugh was guys like Brandon Cutler jumping on the gaslighting band wagon, if I had to choose between punk or Brandon I know who I'm picking
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
Hell no one single person gives a flying shit what Brandon Cutler thinks. That is a guy who owes his whole career to being the Young Bucks little bitch.
@sfiv4527
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound like it's Punk vs the Roster. It sounds like he has support of people who want him back - but they aren't EVPs.
@8Bitorbust
Жыл бұрын
The EVPs aren't shit. Jericho said it himself.
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
Seems so. It's funny how Punk is a "Backstage Cancer" even though guys like Starks, Wardlow, Hobbs, Jade FTR and others have spoken about how much he helped and worked with them. It seems the only ones that dislike Punk are the Elite, their flunkies and Jericho.
@steveurban3223
Жыл бұрын
This is all hangman's fault but unbeknownst to him, his righteous cause was just a front for the bucks to try to bury Punk. .
@benespinosa6725
Жыл бұрын
I just hope CM Punk returns to AEW on Dynamite instead of Being exclusive to one show that nobody's going to watch just like Rampage he should just be on Dynamite moving forward because Dynamite needs Punk because the show sucks without him Tony Khan should just say that he's putting CM Punk on Dynamite every Wednesday because Tony isn't going to waste all the money it took to sign him to just have him on a show that's not Dynamite and AEW doesn't need a brand split WWE can't get there's right what makes AEW think they could do that?
@benespinosa6725
Жыл бұрын
And the elite should work with Punk instead of Letting their Egos get the best of them
@JDotWill
Жыл бұрын
Jericho & his stooges & the EVPs & their stooges can do & say whatever they want on live tv, on social media, or via Dave Meltzer. But God forbid anyone say anything to defend themselves or as a rebuttal & they’re the bad guys.
@diesel101raw
Жыл бұрын
AEW Needs CM Punk
@Charles-qw5ug
Жыл бұрын
Taking legal is a smart move but if legal is not the first person in the room and from most accounts she wasn’t and supposedly Kenny handed the dog to her outside the room having legal was pointless. If she would’ve been the first to enter I doubt things would’ve happened like was reported.
@bipolarminddroppings
Жыл бұрын
Oh god, no. The brand split thing has never worked for WWE, they always end up ignoring it eventually, why would AEW fair any better?
@critic5565
Жыл бұрын
15:12 i smiled, when i heard "500£ equals to one yokozuna". it was so witty.
@naheemquattlebaum2267
Жыл бұрын
There is no way this company haven't been taking a financial loss for awhile now.
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
Why would they be?
@AndersonTenecela
Жыл бұрын
And this is all because of Uncle Dave and him pulling the strings on the elite
@MrTambourineMan.
Жыл бұрын
Lets go. Punk coming back AND AEW finally gets that second televised two hour show?
@sdmfmw9109
Жыл бұрын
You say who's left punk hasn't pussed off? Maybe some of the wrestlers with actual potential. MJF, Starks, Darby, Hobbs, Black, Swerve, Cole. Hell I'd rather see punk and Joe run it back over him and jericho or moxley or the elite for that matter
@Jeff_Pryce
Жыл бұрын
I’m still annoyed that Dave Meltzer hasn’t been held accountable for his part in fanning the flames of this conflict. Problems like this undermine a company’s credibility, and yet Meltzer keeps making money off of this. Like a parasite.
@madddoggnogood1491
Жыл бұрын
This is like total divas for men. I'm over it all
@redmackarel10
Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@mdjcsmith
Жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this commentary, great work Jason. Lots of very interesting points, makes you wonder if the same could be done to sort out the Miro and Andrade situations also
@johnporter9073
Жыл бұрын
Love your show Solomonster as a fellow Mets fan but damn you always seem to cuddle up to the Bucks and Omega. Besides the Omega with Vikingo match they are usually ratings killers. No one would miss them. Go let them job out in the WWE.
@bdr113080
Жыл бұрын
Kenny and the Bucks really don’t have that much leverage they can pretend like they do but they’re never going to WWE.
@charlescomeauxjr9037
Жыл бұрын
I don't care if you're name is Hunter McKhan AEW is taking on a lot of responsibility, if they add another show.I hope Tony gets a little help, so he doesn't burn out.
@TCChavez
Жыл бұрын
Idk, what if ppl are buying tickets knowing punk may be back?! That’s also a possibility since we have all have that possibility in mind when buying tickets
@jpgiles1725
Жыл бұрын
That's my thought as well. People thinking Punk coming back and having a program with the Elite would sell tickets. I also want to see that program
@PoorStretch
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I can't see them actually creating a new brand/show just to accommodate Punk. Now I could see that already have been a plan, and then decide to use Punk over there - but I can't see that being the sole reason to create a new show
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
Theres no way its just for punk lol
@TheVarietyVendor
Жыл бұрын
Honestly. More than AEW. I think ROH needs CM Punk. I'd love to see Punk go back to his roots. And once the heat dies down. They do An ROH Invasion. Led by Punk, Bryan, Joe and Christopher Daniels. Blood & Guts. ROH Originals vs The Elite.
@georgewilliams4258
Жыл бұрын
Punk only told the truth the Bucks pretty much control who got hired when AEW started up.Look at FTR they're much better wrestlers than the Bucks but how often do you see them on TV
@blaineperry9407
Жыл бұрын
I seriously believe that Punk is still hurt over WWE and he still holds so much resentment towards others. Just my opinion.
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
Its not necessarily just wwe, its just his personality lol
@turtlehead2
Жыл бұрын
It’s a work. Since day 1. Not one OFFICIAL statement from AEW
@HunterJohnson-yc5zr
Жыл бұрын
The only thing punk may be wrong for is how he handled it. But he's not wrong for bringing it to Tony and Tony did nothing as usual so THEN he said fuck it I'll make sure the world knows how these kids work. It's really not hard I'd do it the same way . Stop acting like Punk is always in the wrong.
@Bask3tChase
Жыл бұрын
Brats getting mad at Punk for doing what he's always done.. Being a dick to the passive aggressive political types in wrestling. Punk fans love wrestling. The Elite fans love their parasocial little relationships and being terminally online.
@Bask3tChase
Жыл бұрын
Also, a brand split is totally tone deaf, and makes absolutely no sense from a product standpoint outside of the "well, at least we get advertisement money, who cares if we're burnt out, and further inflating our product!",... They can barely handle the creative of the shows they have, they dont need more shows. This is stupid.
@tamzidmohsinkhan3333
Жыл бұрын
AEW badly needs CM Punk than Punk needs them
@Slop_Dogg
Жыл бұрын
doesn’t sound like solomonster agrees with you
@Baraka_Obama_
Жыл бұрын
Tony isn't to let Punk walk to WWE he learned his lesson with Cody
@MazeDaGr8
Жыл бұрын
Not really
@CamSTL
Жыл бұрын
I'm not saying retaliating is the right thing to do but people are focused on the recite and not what caused it. Hangman buries him on live TV so CM Punk stews about it then buries him back. I'm human, I've never been in that situation. I'd probably stew about it too everyday until I could say my piece. Jericho calls punk a cancer. Punk has been quiet for MONTHS but then he RESPONDS because a person can only take so much and everyone says what he did was idiotic. What about what Jericho said or what about when the Elite made fun of Punk mid match. Oh and if a group of guys burst into your lockerroom I'm sure most of you are gonna feel threatened and defend yourselves. Not saying Punk is innocent but putting majority blame on him for retaliation? What about putting majority blame on the guys who got him riled up
@christinaweszelits8240
Жыл бұрын
I get for business having Punk back might be great but like you said contracts are coming up for pretty important people that he called out why in the hell would they even fell comfortable with someone who went of at them at the press conference
@Blueperful
Жыл бұрын
It's seems like people are either on one extreme or the other. Should Punk have laid out his dirty laundry during the Press conference, no. Should Kenny and friends barged into Punks dressing room (hitting Punk dog in the face), again no. Both parties have some fault
@bomanidaalchemist5801
Жыл бұрын
A brand split could be good. AEW has a lot of talent that isn’t being used so splitting the roster up on separate shows could work. It’ll give the chance for other people to shine. Not too mention it won’t has so many factions all on the same show. We could get new titles for those shows as well. Kinda like Raw & SmackDown. You have to start somewhere.
@Kravis63
Жыл бұрын
Bring on the civil war, it would be great!
@michaelsinger4638
Жыл бұрын
AEW has too many talented people who struggle to get consistent TV time. So a show to potentially alleviate that COULD maybe work. But it needs to be handled carefully.
@mckeallyons3657
Жыл бұрын
AEW NEEDS CM Punk
@JungJim
Жыл бұрын
The match with the Buck-o-roos and Kenny Omega vs Punk and FTR needs to happen. Everyone wants to see it. It blends real life and wrestling together. All the AEW faithful will tune in, casual fans want to see this because of the controversy, and people who don't usually watch wrestling might buy the PPV because of the real life heat. It's good for business. Forget the egos involved and give the fans what they want.
@robertvergara7072
Жыл бұрын
AEW should cuts ties from CM Punk. Tony needs stop playing buddy buddy and law down the law with all these people including CM Punck and The Elite.
@FANTASYBOOKING69
Жыл бұрын
It seems like cm punk is getting is more heat than anyone else just by defending himself
@TheSoundwaveprime
Жыл бұрын
Like I said somewhere else on here but to some, it's completely okay to trash Punk's name at every turn and accuse him of this or that without proof (or in Meltzer's case intentionally withholding information and context) but when Punk defends himself or claps back, he is out of line.
@upandaway5238
Жыл бұрын
None of the issues he had with the dub have gone away. Elite is still there and still protected by Tony.
@AxeManGaming
Жыл бұрын
Punk just seems to be a magnet for drama. Combine that with his diminishing ring skills, and I just don't get the hype anymore.
@mikeissjr
Жыл бұрын
Seems like everyone involved is a damn child.
@erisi236
Жыл бұрын
AEW: Thunder
@Osarogie112258
Жыл бұрын
Instead of creating a new show, they should probably have Ring of Honor come on television.
@robertwarf3316
Жыл бұрын
Creating another brand for Punk seems so ridiculous I don't believe it. I'm sure they'll use that third show for Punk or use Punk to highlight it. But I don't think Tony was like "yeah I'm not going to try and fix this. Let's just give Punk his own show"
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Ppl have been saying the roster is too big for only 2hrs of live tv a week since 2021. This was definitely in the works for a while & putting punk on there is just a precautionary measure in case that the bucks and omega wont work with him
@robertwarf3316
Жыл бұрын
@@chrismalinowski654 and if they do that that's fine. They shouldn't be asked or expected to work with him, tbh. I know we'd all like to see it given the star power and the history between them. Could be a good way for heads to cool in the mean time, as well. They have enough stars to make a third show work so long as it's treated like Dynamite. I don't know if the time slot is good but we'll see
@edgargonzalez144
Жыл бұрын
Page has classics against Bucks and Omega? Tf are you watching mate? Nobody talks about those matches lol. Page was the worst AEW world champion.
@warriorjwr
Жыл бұрын
The problem is none of the wrestlers. It’s TK. He needs to be like Punk’s coming back. If you don’t like it go work elsewhere. I highly doubt they will want too. TK writes the checks. He has no control of his company.
@PapaGreek1
Жыл бұрын
No angles get continuity when you don’t see the same guys on every week. The third show allows for the talents that need television time and aren’t getting it. It’s as simple as that. And it’s not a brand split, when the brand is just AEW. You’ll have some of the same wrestlers on collision that you would on dynamite, therefore, it would NOT be a brand split
@TheBlakkEra
Жыл бұрын
Not having Punk as the focal point of Dynamite is a mistake man idc what nobody says. He’s the biggest star they have lmao
@brendonbosch1376
Жыл бұрын
I don't mind Jericho Vs Punk but not at Wembley. Wembley should be The Elite Vs FTR/PUNK. That's what the fans want. So just give it to us
@antoniusjohnson3824
Жыл бұрын
I think everyone is at fault in this entire situation, CM Punk, The Elite, Chris Jericho, Hangman Page, Jon Moxley, and Tony Khan.
@joeytocd
Жыл бұрын
Punk and Jericho don't need to work with one another at this juncture. We saw that in WWE ten or eleven years ago, and we don't need to see it again, especially with all the other talent on that roster. Punk and FTR against the Elite would be the culmination of a salvaged professional relationship between the two sides, but if that never comes to pass, Punk can still work matches with Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe, Jay White, Adam Cole, a title match with MJF (third and final instalment in their series), Malakai Black and the entire House of Black with Serena Deeb teaming with CMFTR. Maybe CMFTR against the Undisputed Era if Kyle returns and Bobby makes amends with Punk, too??? There are multiple options on the table. They can at least agree to coexist professionally without having to work with one another. With a roster as saturated as theirs, that shouldn't be a problem.
@HalensHaven
Жыл бұрын
I get it, it would be logical and almost impossible to ignore, but oh my god, I genuinely have had my fill of “worked shoot” programs and promos. I hope his return is as light as possible on all of that.
@misterelom
Жыл бұрын
Wrestling overall is in a weird place but AEW is basically that meme where the dog is sitting in a burning room saying "this is fine".
@maggielusk6833
Жыл бұрын
I blame TK for all of this! This is what happens when you cross the line and become pals with half you're roster and boss to the other half! He has no authority or leadership qualities whatsoever just buries his head in the sand! And I agree with Punk about Jericho! Who gets his own way n TV time every week apart from the EVP'S? Yep that would be Jericho!
@eLite-Tiss91
Жыл бұрын
AEW civil war would be a great storyline....at least they can give wwe a break
@FBA-Chuckyd0421
Жыл бұрын
Make that into a ppv called AEW Civil War... something a if a mixture of wargames and survival series
@Baraka_Obama_
Жыл бұрын
@@FBA-Chuckyd0421 🤔🤔🤔 now that sounds good
@umerkhan1977
Жыл бұрын
This is what makes ProWrestling such a shitty Sport or Semi-Sport. The idea that your talent is secondary to your attitude backstage is just comical. In real Sports, athletes do have an ego problem and you see the team or company that owns them, bending over backwards to please them. McGregor got away with it. Messi gets away with it. Ronaldo gets away with it. Even if Punk is a narcissistic piece of trash, still should this be fair to keep him away from AEW? Even if Punk has issues, then tell me any top WWE star prior, that didn't? Super saint Cena has been all smiles on the front and yet ruined so many careers from the back. SCSA did the same. The Rock didn't want to work with HBK...the list goes on!
@williewonka500020
Жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a huge test for tony khan, he needs to demand punk, the elite, page and jericho to all sit down together and work out their issues, don't ask them tell them. I get why they might wanna do a brand split with the Saturday show, but if he's only doing it to appeal to cm punk it's gonna be a major fail. Rampage is barely getting by. This is gonna be a important summer for Aew
@chrismalinowski654
Жыл бұрын
It’s definitely not just cause of punk lol. Other wrestlers backstage dont get along either and their roster is bigger than wwe’s main roster
@bigbrother1137
Жыл бұрын
CM Punk owns the Bucks!!
@josefigueroa1097
Жыл бұрын
The Elite would have to go over. There’s no way in hell that you allow this guy to comeback after all that fuckery and put him over your EVPs. In some way, Hangman should also be allowed some comeuppance cause he was collateral.
@viviannavicious
Жыл бұрын
If you're not gonna have Punk and the Elite work together to keep the peace, then what's the point? Both parties need to act like professionals, cause an Elite and FTR+Punk program is MONEY.
@newageorganzation
Жыл бұрын
Why can't this show be a ROH show and put Punk in ROH "roster" away from AEW "roster" and just do that
@doomedhuh
Жыл бұрын
Brand Split is a dumb idea. Like you said, unnecessary handcuffs. I hate it even in wwe
@kaledadam3955
Жыл бұрын
yes I believe a sit down with jericho is necessary. If punk comes back by june in Chicago would be huge!
@XombieLejon66
Жыл бұрын
For all of Punk's issues, I'd still take him and gladly show the buckaroos and mudshow clown brigade the door. JeriHogan and his flunkies can join em.
@nowtheworld138
Жыл бұрын
It’s really an easy fix. Don’t let Phil comeback. He’s proven time and time again that Phil only cares about Phil. Hogan and Rock and Flair and Austin wouldn’t do or get away with the crap this dude does. What makes him so special ?
@cashyy3164
Жыл бұрын
He draws money..that’s what. This is a business at the end of the day.
@nowtheworld138
Жыл бұрын
@@cashyy3164 he really isn’t a game changer. But the extra money he brings in isn’t worth the headaches and horse spit that follows with him. He’s not a team player. And it’s funny how ashamed he is of his wwe time but the only reason anyone knows who he is, is because of that. I get he might not be a fan of the company or “how he was treated “ but it made him famous and rich. Sounds like a good run to me but what do I know ? Then he was trying to come back to wwe and they didn’t want him back which was hilarious. Lol. Coming back to that show on FS1 with Renee and Book proved what Phil is all about and it’s that mighty dollar. Hypocrite
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